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Build Threads / Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:44:26 PM »
Water temp was 102?????!!!!!!!!!!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:35:31 PM »
The squiggly area in plate #2 was just to get me some more weld area to get that bond as strong as it could be.

I just started on the other side when I got the call. "Get a shower and bring the kids to bible study tonight." Of course I wasn't ready so wrenches went flying and just like that, I was done!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:33:16 PM »
That thing doesn't move at all. It's completely solid and rattle free mounted like this and I'd say easy to get to when needed (Unless the truck just rolled on it's right side) :o

Next up, time to close off the open spots in the bumper. But first I welded in the second plate, an angle doubler, and a third plate to bring it all home

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:30:16 PM »
Those studs align with the holes in the center of the jack I-Beam. The jack is captured with a "C" clamp and a simple wing nut, stainless, of course

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:28:17 PM »
Then the top arm was fabbed up from some 10 gage plate and a couple 1/2" coarse thread bolts

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:27:03 PM »
I just kissed the base plate with a 5/8" drill to clean up the holes and make for an easy install/removal of the jack

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:26:05 PM »
To is angled up a tad to allow the jack to stand up with an aft tilt which just might help that tangle foot shed some vines and branches

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:24:49 PM »
That business got welded to the base receiver tube which made it quite solid. You may have noticed, I welded in a section of angle first to give more welding surface for the attachment

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:23:20 PM »
By setting 4-7/16" bolts into the foot, which align with holes already present in the jack foot, the jack will slide down onto these studs to keep it located. If I want to add security, a simple nylon lock nut is all that is needed to foil a would be less than really-determined thief.

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:21:14 PM »
I'll create a foot to hold it, then an upper arm to clamp it in place.

Here is a piece of 1/4" plate that is about to become that foot

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:20:06 PM »
And here is the little extra you are either going to like or dislike depending on your perspective. This is a 48" hi-Lift jack. I use these things and they are a must for recovery and some maintenance. I was wondering where I might attach it when that vertical bar showed up...problem solved!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:17:51 PM »
I have it standing vertical in all axes

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:16:57 PM »
I had to slice apart that side panel to get the vertical bar to level. No big deal, I planned on plating over that panel with a couple plies of 10 gage to get it very strong while fighting cracking by using independent plies in lieu of one thick piece of steel

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:14:46 PM »
The first thing I attacked today was the upright swing-arm base. Here it is now bolted to the bed halo support and is very rigid and strong. No give or play what so ever.

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:13:00 PM »
I knew you were anti block, just wondered.

Will you add a flap to back of the bumper? Heck with the mud on the farm and kia parts you  could be hauling a couple hundred lbs in that cavity!
JR, I think I'm going to punch some 2" holes in it in places to allow stuff to pass through and me access to hose out the inside cavities

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 09:52:50 AM »
I like the modular build idea but thought the same about clearance.

Will the upper mount be allowed to move with frame flex?

Does SD still have rear blocks??

No movement allowed, it will be rigid

SD does have blocks for the moment, but they will soon go away.
With the shackle flip, and longer Silverado springs, I will likely not need a block. I have a 4" block in there now. The shackle flip adds 5" of lift. So right there I will be about the same, but we won't know until I bolt in those new springs.

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 24, 2015, 09:49:36 AM »
Are you taking frame flex into account, I am thinking your bumpers are going to kiss the sheetmetal when flexed out like on a majorly washed out fire road.
I don't think so
Frame flex occurs along the longitudinal axis of the vehicle (Front to back)
The bumper attachment points are arranged in a vertical fashion so they act more like a slice of a long bar. The whole "Slice" will react the same. If the frame moved independently of the bed, then body mounts would be torn and see cracks, but that never happens.
If the bed twisted it would do something called "Oil-Canning" which I am all to familiar with having flown the chinook. Take a soda can (Oil can of earlier times) and twist either end in opposite directions. The force manifests in slanted lines of "Twist" in the skin. The skin actually ripples up. Depending on how resilient the metal is it either recovers or eventually cracks (Chinooks)
Truck beds don't do that. The most they do is try to fold in on themselves at the tailgate which is their weakest point. This upright of mine will serve to reinforce that area, and the steel top halo likely really stiffened up how the bed might twist anyway.

No, I don't think twisting will be a real problem. Also keep in mind, my frame has several more cross members that the truck never had. It has the rear electrical compartment box. It has that thick wall rear water/alcohol tank boxing up the entire rear of the frame. It has a new transfer case cross member, it has the structure for the rear anti-torque bar bolted in. The weak area of the frame in the hump has a steel plate bolted over it, the front of the frame is boxed in and on and on.

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Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: SIEMR
« on: June 24, 2015, 09:37:07 AM »
Mikey, you're a writer as well as an art-tist!

Messin' with Skunks is like changin' oil. Some is always going to get on you. Kind of like applying RTV black to any surface. Seems as though A lesser amount always gets applied to you as well. It's like greasing anything. Might as well just grease yourself and get it over. And like anytime something sticky and greasy and nasty is all over your hands. That is the exact time a sweat bee or a horsefly will choose to bite ya'.

Conclusion: Messing with some things is just not going to happen without consequences!

I think I just came up with some quotable wisdom for the "Book of Don," but this time it is derived from the ongoing "Mikey Story"

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Build Threads / Re: Suburban on Ebay
« on: June 24, 2015, 09:21:16 AM »
Most of that would have to go. I might would leave the boomerang antenna. I was thinking more like a combination of these two.
http://www.adpost.com/us/vehicles/1041643/
http://www.autosbychoice.com/1981_GMC_CK%203500%20Series_Fredericksburg_VA_220192501.veh

I love the first except for the flatbed and the second is so militant, it almost looks terrorist!

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Bobby.....lol. I would ask why were you driving 20 hrs. ...I mean where were you driving? ....I would ask but I don't want to DOT up Tates thread.

Why not DOT up Tate's thread.
The man has earned it
DOTin up my threads like it was his last chance ever
Go ahead
Let's see some recipes
Sports news
Weather talk
Political chat
Whatever...feel free!!!!

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Nothing better than a garden at some place other than mine. While growing up it was my job, after my folks planted close to half an acre, to water, weed, thin, harvest, pack the jars, and watch the canner. Just when the stuff was ready to pick the prices dropped  at the market for fresh picked out of the garden products. Go fishing or swimming in the lake, sure right after spending the day taking care of the garden. I might grow a few corn plants and one or two tomato plants now, but a garden....I have better things to do with my time. But, times are not quite as tight now either.
Bob,

Me^^^^ Same thing

Dad had between a quarter and a half acre of strawberries amongst the rest of the garden. My chore was weeding, picking berries, pulling up the runners and organizing them into a row and best of all, guard duty!

That's how I learned to shoot accurately. I'd sit for hours out there under a gumball tree on a homemade picnic table with a copy of lord of the rings and my trusty Crossman 760 Powermaster. When those starlings or blackbirds came in, I'd shoot em'
I wasn't allowed to shoot the Robins, Cardinals, of Blue Jays, but I'd have to say I stretched that rule just a bit from time to time! ;-)

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Faith Discussion / Re: Young lady in miscarriage
« on: June 24, 2015, 08:59:11 AM »
Only God knows his plans for us. I pray for His comfort and peace for her and her family.
Very true
But here's another thought
Shortly after you draw your last earthly breath
if you know Jesus as your savior
You will get to meet a little girl or boy, the one you never saw.
They were created by God to last an eternity. They may have died an earthly death, but their eternal life with the Father does not die
You will meet them some day!

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Faith Discussion / Re: Young lady in miscarriage
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:54:13 PM »
She lost the baby.

She is recovering

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Faith Discussion / Re: Immediate prayer request!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:52:35 PM »
Any changes?
Last I checked she was very slightly improved, but still very sick

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:46:32 PM »
I'm going to do something cool with that up-right, just wait...I think you'll like it.

So that was what I had time to get done today. So ended build day 273 for Square D

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:44:57 PM »
And here the upright is roughed in. It will get trimmed to size and straightened and finally get a tab that will attach it to the steel halo, making this one butt strong tire rack.

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:43:00 PM »
This protrusion along with the side plate will serve as the mount for the receiver tube of the swing away base mount

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:41:37 PM »
And that was further reinforced and tied into the main structure with one of those 1" X 3" sections of tubing.

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:39:56 PM »
Next, its time to box in and reinforce the right bumper wing to make it more or less immovable.

I cut a large piece of steel plate and welded it to the underside contour of the bumper wing.

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:38:10 PM »
That plate will serve as the top anchor for the swing part of the tailgate that will hold the spare and 3 water cans.

I decided to make this part bolt on, if I should ever want to or need to remove it. It will also make mounting the bumper much easier.

The bumper will have a square tubing receiver welded firmly to it. Another piece of slightly smaller OD square tube will through-bolt to the receiver and also to the steel halo, here it is:

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:34:40 PM »
Remember those two bolts I placed in the bed top halo?

Well, it's time to put them to work

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:33:09 PM »
Next, the slanted filler plates:

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:32:04 PM »
And that seemed to fit well enough

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:30:59 PM »
Yep, that's about right!

So on to the fabrication of the rest of the top plate:

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:29:48 PM »
Soooo,

I cut it off!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:29:12 PM »
I started to wrap the bumper around all the way to the wheel well, but quickly decided that that "stretch" was all four kinds of ugly. I couldn't stand to look at it. I thought maybe I could fill it with dirt and make a planter out of it, and grow herbs for Nate, but figured, my bumper specials might not be up to his standards!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:26:40 PM »
And Yes, the tailgate closes and opens just like normal

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:25:02 PM »
Rasimmo:

I checked, and you were correct, somewhere in the distant past we were building a bumper. That reminded me to continue, so let's build some more!

First of all I wanted to level the vehicle since that big Cummins and that front end bumper thing are causing those front springs to retire early!

So for now I jacked the front up a bit and placed some jack stands under the front spring eyes to hold off further relaxing.

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The two "W's"

Water

Weeds

Have fun!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 10:33:36 AM »
Poor fella. I like just having friends with pools. It's easier on my schedule that way.

Successfully derailed thread, aint there a bumper build or something happening here.

When he gets that thing done, I will have a friend with a pool! I figure I mess around in his pool in the summer, and he hunts all over my farm in the fall, seems like a fair trade!

I'll have to check if there is a bumper build happening...not sure right now!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:04:40 AM »
well since he lives closest to you, have you checked on him lately?  hows he doing?
Yea, I've checked on him.
It would be inappropriate of me to say his wife has beaten him again and he is in the middle of a pool install. A pool surrounded by oak and hickory trees, in the forest, with herds of Racoon, deer, chipmunks, snakes, and who knows what trapsing through the property!

I wouldn't want to paint a picture of my mighty warrior friend having given in to something as foolish as an unmaintainable pool in the middle of a forest just cause the woman beats him. I won't point out any of that because despite his obvious lack of fortitude and giving in, it would make him look, well, weaker I suppose. I give him a lot of latitude (Because of the Blackhawk thing) but I would have thought he could have saved all that money. Might as well have built the pool in the middle of a cow pasture, but, hey, I'm not talking about all this.

No, we won't discuss any of these poor choices, we'll just go on as if no loss of dignity or position as the leader of his household ever occurred!

Other than that, he's fine!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:56:59 AM »
I'm thinking we should have a starting party when Don actually decides to crank this thing up...I should be eligible for my AARP discount by then....

Sorry Don, carry on sir.
Don't do AARP, those liberal fools pushed obummer Kare, Comrad!

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Build Threads / Re: LML Silverado Duramax C-Max build thread part 4
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:49:22 AM »
My wife tells me I'm backwoods country all the time. Funny thing is she uses my silly little phrases all the time and acts more like me the longer we're together. Took me 15 years to get her where she is. Another 15 and she'll be fully converted.

Haaaa!
Same thing here!
She is not only using my phrases, "Lost as last year's easter egg," and a few others

AND

She now claims they were her "Kentucky-girl" phrases all along, that I ADOPTED FROM HER!

She's too pretty to argue with, so I let it go

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Build Threads / Re: LML Silverado Duramax C-Max build thread part 4
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:46:00 AM »
who is that guy in the reflection there??????????

OD and 37s would be just right on there. To big n you loose the driveability.

Guy in the reflection is my neighbor...old crotchety guy that nobody likes ;-)

OK, then goal will be 37's and OD in color!

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Build Threads / Re: LML Silverado Duramax C-Max build thread part 4
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:09:43 PM »
Just drive it another year or so then paint it OD green. Scratches add character.
Man if you only knew

I've wanted to paint that thing OD for some time, but the M.R.S. unit is really against that idea.

She said she looks hillbilly enough driving around in the truck the way it is. Funny, but the concept never occurred to me!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:07:48 PM »
is that duane???  is he alive or are we seeing things here???
It would appear as though we just experienced a DS (Duane Sighting)!

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Build Threads / Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:05:27 PM »
???Does the tailgate open?

Yep, sure does

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Build Threads / Re: Ramcharger Build
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:04:54 PM »
I was using the short shackles that Jungle sends with his kit which are 3.75" hole to hole, I bought a set that were one inch(4.75") longer and that is what I am running now.  The pictures are of the 3.75" set up.

OK, that info helps. I was thinking of starting with the 4.5" shackles when I drop in those 64" rear springs and go from there

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Build Threads / Re: LML Silverado Duramax C-Max build thread part 4
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:00:21 PM »
I'm not really one to get excited about cosmetic stuff, but this is still a pretty new truck and still only has some 47,000 miles. So I started looking at the scratches which are EVERYWHERE thanks to that unforgiving farm "road"


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Build Threads / Re: LML Silverado Duramax C-Max build thread part 4
« on: June 22, 2015, 09:47:48 PM »
I got on the rest of the undercarriage as well, attending to a few rust spots on the frame and suspension from last winter's salt fall and dusting of snow flurries

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