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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #650 on: August 24, 2020, 03:17:50 PM »
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« Reply #651 on: August 27, 2020, 07:23:22 PM »
...And after the install today where I was really shoving the gage pod against the dash I managed to scratch up some of the new finish.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #652 on: August 27, 2020, 07:24:21 PM »
Wiring things up, I used some fuse taps to power the gage cluster and lighting
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #653 on: August 27, 2020, 07:25:58 PM »
I ended up installing another fuse block underhood to power some things and part of this new setup, then loomed up everything and threw the air tube back in
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #654 on: August 27, 2020, 07:27:35 PM »
I still need to create a spot to screw in the boost gage tube, but other than that the gage setup is complete for now. I may or may not use the fuel pressure gage, undecided at this point
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #655 on: August 27, 2020, 07:37:45 PM »
With the gages powered up, I ran the engine and made note of the cockpit gages. The temperature gage I just installed agreed with the electric fan controller to the degree. Note however that the cockpit gage is already settling in on 201F while the new temp gage is almost 100 F lower.

I watched the temp gage tick up toward 185, where I have the fan set to turn on, and it did just where I set it, exactly where the temp gage was pointing.

Now, having said that, only one fan turned on, so it seems I still have some problem associated with the fans themselves. Since this was a used setup I installed some time ago, I think I just might replace it with a new Dorman unit just to be safe
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #656 on: August 27, 2020, 07:40:27 PM »
Next, I swapped out the mufflers, replacing the Magna Flow stainless for a Flowmaster 55 big block unit. It did not get any quieter, but the tone turned more into a muscle car sound from a mellow one with the MF muffler
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #657 on: August 28, 2020, 06:40:09 PM »
Continuing with the interior reset, I first pulled the seat. Those strange looking nuts and bolts are actually 11mm front and 15mm rear in case you get fuddled up looking at a star shaped bolt head
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #658 on: August 28, 2020, 06:41:38 PM »
I then tore down the seat. It is best to remove the bottom cushion and leave the top section attached to the seat frame
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #659 on: August 28, 2020, 06:43:45 PM »
The cleaning process I used was to use leather cleaner and scrub with a bristle brush. I followed that with a wipe down with solvent. Then I sanded the thing with 400 grit, then wiped down with solvent a second time
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« Reply #660 on: August 28, 2020, 06:46:08 PM »
Now comes the repair. Looking at those wear creases that leather always gets after 5-10 years, I purchased this product which fills in the creases restoring the finish to like new smooth. I chose black to give me a good contrast. It looks gawd awful going on, but just wait...
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« Reply #661 on: August 28, 2020, 06:48:17 PM »
That needs 5-12 hours to set up, so I went after the rest of the seat. I painted the plastic trim the Caddy Tobacco and laid down the BMW cinnamon color to the actual seat surfaces, well at least the top half

I went with black on the seat belt for contrast
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #662 on: August 28, 2020, 06:50:13 PM »
With the material all dried on the seating surface, I started a through sanding with the 150 grit then 400.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #663 on: August 28, 2020, 06:51:19 PM »
I laid down some color and discovered some evidence of my repair, so I sanded a second time, then color coated
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #664 on: August 28, 2020, 06:53:42 PM »
I tore out the drivers seat and most of the trim on the right side before calling it a night

Looking at the carpet, I can change the color as well if I choose. I think the center console will be a combination of black and tobacco so a black matching carpet would work, but then again so would the original color...thinking...
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #665 on: August 28, 2020, 09:03:01 PM »
Those are technically e-torx (external). A standard socket works in a pinch, but enough times in and out you run the risk of rounding it off.

I like the Caddy cinnamon, but not sure about the BMW... but not my truck ;)
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« Reply #666 on: August 28, 2020, 09:11:54 PM »
If you use a 6 point, they work better.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #667 on: August 29, 2020, 10:25:35 AM »
Those are technically e-torx (external). A standard socket works in a pinch, but enough times in and out you run the risk of rounding it off.

I like the Caddy cinnamon, but not sure about the BMW... but not my truck ;)
I just like that color. And its hard to argue just how well this paint/dye works on leather. he seats are coming out great.
I guess the real test is in how it all holds up, and only time will tell.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #668 on: September 03, 2020, 09:09:13 PM »
Finally got to spend a few more hours on the burb

I finally got the first seat finished and assembled
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« Reply #669 on: September 03, 2020, 09:10:04 PM »
Next I tore the rest of the dash trim out and removed the console
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #670 on: September 03, 2020, 09:12:21 PM »
After a lot of scrubbing and cleaning, I got everything south of the beltline below the instrument cluster prepped and painted. I plan to carry a black theme across the dash, and down and aft to include the console
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #671 on: September 03, 2020, 09:13:16 PM »
I two-toned the console tying the dash color to the console lid
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« Reply #672 on: September 03, 2020, 09:14:25 PM »
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« Reply #673 on: September 03, 2020, 09:15:35 PM »
The tape pulled some of the paint off the lower side of the lid. I taped it barely 15 minutes after spraying, which as it turned out, was just too soon. I will re-do in the morning

Continuing to spray other trim pieces and getting closer all the time. Still a lot of work remaining though
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« Reply #674 on: September 03, 2020, 09:15:59 PM »
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #675 on: September 04, 2020, 10:18:58 AM »
What is the fee for bringing my truck over and you doing the same. I will supply the paint? LOL

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« Reply #676 on: September 04, 2020, 11:02:13 AM »
What is the fee for bringing my truck over and you doing the same. I will supply the paint? LOL

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #677 on: September 05, 2020, 11:50:42 AM »
So, ran into a problem which cost me quite a bit of the day. I was doing the scratch test on the side of the center console, and was able to scratch off the dye/paint.
That caused me an hours long setback where I had to remove the material and start almost from scratch. Speaking of scratch, I sanded the whole thing, then cleaned and cleaned

Note here: This process can get to be very labor intensive. Although it produces great results, plan to spend a good amount of time, on prep
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #678 on: September 05, 2020, 11:52:17 AM »
This time I sprayed some adhesion promoter on first, then top coated with the paint

And this time everything worked great
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« Reply #679 on: September 05, 2020, 11:54:19 AM »
^^^ Just noticed in the pic above the sides look all blotchy. I think I must have had some dust on the camera lens, as the finished console is pretty even

I started reassembly of the dash and console, getting this far:
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #680 on: September 05, 2020, 12:07:55 PM »
Your not going to do a carpet color change?


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« Reply #681 on: September 05, 2020, 09:28:59 PM »
Your not going to do a carpet color change?


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #682 on: September 05, 2020, 09:30:56 PM »
So, here it is with the right seat and trim installed. Very little of the carpet is showing anyway. I think I like the color palet, but won't really know until it all gets put together.

Pics with and without flash
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« Reply #683 on: September 05, 2020, 09:32:17 PM »
Still working on cleaning, repairing, painting.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #684 on: September 05, 2020, 09:34:25 PM »
Door panel gets three-toned as well. mostly the tobacco color with a cinnamon insert and a black catch-all tray

Figure I'd paint the insert, allow to dry overnight then tape off in the morning and paint the rest of the panel
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« Reply #685 on: September 05, 2020, 09:35:38 PM »
It's just a lot of work...Much more than I initially figured
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« Reply #686 on: September 06, 2020, 05:28:16 AM »
It's just a lot of work...Much more than I initially figured
Isn’t that the usual pattern around here!


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« Reply #687 on: September 06, 2020, 08:19:50 AM »
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #688 on: September 06, 2020, 07:04:14 PM »
Yea, It's just turning into a LOT of work. But I need to power through it and get it done.

The new fans came in so right after the interior, they need to go in, and I still need to plumb for a boost gage signal, then get Nick to adjust the tune based on what I have learned recently and get back to driving it.

The door panel turned out great. That BMW cinnamon color is striking against the tobacco background.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #689 on: September 06, 2020, 07:05:39 PM »
I coated the inside of the door with the fogging cosmoline oil. I guess more was coming out of the nozzle than I figured, as the stuff was running out of the door's bottom drain holes:
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« Reply #690 on: September 06, 2020, 07:06:41 PM »
Couple of shots with the door panel reinstalled:
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« Reply #691 on: September 06, 2020, 07:07:30 PM »
And here with the just finished drivers seat:
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #692 on: September 06, 2020, 07:09:55 PM »
While that was going on in the front, someone tossed a frag into the back seat!

But the work goes on, and ever closer to being done.

Tires still haven't sold and still in the way

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« Reply #693 on: September 07, 2020, 09:29:46 AM »
And here with the just finished drivers seat:
Looking sharp!  A lot of work for sure.


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #694 on: September 07, 2020, 03:52:53 PM »
What is this fogging cosmoline product? Did I miss it earlier? I have to agree that the door panel turned out really nice.

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« Reply #695 on: September 08, 2020, 03:00:55 PM »
What is this fogging cosmoline product? Did I miss it earlier? I have to agree that the door panel turned out really nice.
Goes by different names, T. This can is called cavity coater. I purchased it before at the paint supply store where it was called liquid amber. Same stuff. Cosmoline suspended in a solvent that gets it into all the nooks and crannies, then that stuff evaps off and you're left with a multi decade air barrier.
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« Reply #696 on: September 08, 2020, 03:05:25 PM »
I think the stuff from eastwood is the same thing. Has a nozzle on a tube that sprays out all around. I used on the sub and it came out everywhere.
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« Reply #697 on: September 09, 2020, 03:09:24 AM »
What is this fogging cosmoline product? Did I miss it earlier? I have to agree that the door panel turned out really nice.
Goes by different names, T. This can is called cavity coater. I purchased it before at the paint supply store where it was called liquid amber. Same stuff. Cosmoline suspended in a solvent that gets it into all the nooks and crannies, then that stuff evaps off and you're left with a multi decade air barrier.
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« Reply #698 on: September 09, 2020, 07:26:50 AM »
Interesting stuff. I don’t think about rust much in texas. https://www.jbtools.com/3m-8852-cavity-wax-plus/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIooS13Prb6wIVhcDACh1saw8LEAQYBCABEgL9ivD_BwE


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« Reply #699 on: September 09, 2020, 10:14:04 AM »
Yea, that's it, same stuff, different company.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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