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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #300 on: November 05, 2015, 07:41:54 PM »
Yessir it will!

So I got the Aux tank in and mounted

Wasn't so bad, and it fits like a glove

When I was clearing out the bed I realized I had never installed the air filter unit for the ARB electric air pump, so I secured that up as high as I could get it
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #301 on: November 05, 2015, 07:44:02 PM »
Then I mounted up the base plate for the folding table top affixed to the spare tire carrier
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #302 on: November 05, 2015, 07:45:22 PM »
I found this data plate which used to be riveted to the front of the bed, so I just riveted it back inside near the back
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #303 on: November 05, 2015, 07:46:35 PM »
After washing out the bed, I man handled that tank onto the tail gate.

That tank weighs 370 pounds!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #304 on: November 05, 2015, 07:49:45 PM »
You believe that? Would you like to buy an airline? I own one, Delta, sell it for $1,000, cash!

It probably weighs around 40 pounds soaking wet. By working it back and tilting it over the wheel well, I squeaked it into place with no pulled muscles!

I did have to shed some blood, though, but that just proves the plumbing is working just fine!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #305 on: November 05, 2015, 07:51:40 PM »
The first step was to drill it in one hole at a time, then securing it with a cleco before drilling the next hole
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #306 on: November 05, 2015, 07:54:23 PM »
Then the tank flanges were drilled to 5/16" and the body holes opened to 27/64" to fit the nut-serts fastener thing-ah-ma-bobs.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #307 on: November 05, 2015, 07:56:26 PM »
These things work really well when you need to put threads in thin metal, perfect for this application.

Here, I crushed one to show how the back side swells, locking it into place, and how it all looks in 1/8" steel
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #308 on: November 05, 2015, 08:00:52 PM »
And here is the tank all secured using a bunch of 1/4" bolts holding rubber backed washers which secure the tank

Thinking about it, that steel bed halo and now this fuel tank is contributing along with a much stiffened frame to a more rigid chassis than Dodge ever thought of. Time will tell if this was the right approach.
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #309 on: November 05, 2015, 08:03:07 PM »
To accommodate the inbound filler neck assembly, I'll have to move the antenna up to near the top of the cap.
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« Reply #310 on: November 05, 2015, 08:06:00 PM »
And with that, I closed it up for the evening. More work coming to this area, but I really just want to get things hooked up so I can get the front springs redone in prep for moving the truck
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #311 on: November 05, 2015, 10:47:25 PM »
Love the nutzerts, they are great! You can use on thinner sheet metal to buy using a washer on the back.

Like the setup Don. Why not mount the antenna on the roof rack?
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #312 on: November 06, 2015, 09:57:46 AM »
Love the nutzerts, they are great! You can use on thinner sheet metal to buy using a washer on the back.

Like the setup Don. Why not mount the antenna on the roof rack?
Thanks JR

I have the coax cable all tucked into the chassis, so I think I can squeak out just enough length to move the antenna up a foot, and that's it without un-bundling a lot of prior work
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #313 on: November 10, 2015, 08:42:49 PM »
Started off today with the removal of the antenna mount
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #314 on: November 10, 2015, 08:43:46 PM »
Then I made up a template out of cardboard to fit the new Hagan filler assembly
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #315 on: November 10, 2015, 08:45:50 PM »
The Hagan filler neck is typically installed to the back side of a panel, then the fuel door is raised flush with the existing body panel. I am just going to bolt it to the outside of the mounting/stiffening plate
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #316 on: November 10, 2015, 08:46:51 PM »
It also has a cool feature where you leave the cap mounted and just stick the fuel nozzle through the center
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« Reply #317 on: November 10, 2015, 08:48:04 PM »
With a lot of care, out came the rectangle of fiberglass to fit the assembly
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« Reply #318 on: November 10, 2015, 08:48:50 PM »
So far things are fitting just fine
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #319 on: November 10, 2015, 08:49:54 PM »
With some quick plasma torch work, the cover plate was fashioned
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« Reply #320 on: November 10, 2015, 08:51:18 PM »
Then all that was drilled in and temporarily held in place with some Clecos
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« Reply #321 on: November 10, 2015, 08:52:19 PM »
Next I repositioned the antenna up a bit higher than before
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #322 on: November 10, 2015, 08:54:19 PM »
Then I painted the parts, first with acid etching primer, then with black John Deere paint.

Installation will have to wait till tomorrow
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #323 on: November 10, 2015, 08:55:35 PM »
And here's the GS (Garage Situation) for tonight!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #324 on: November 10, 2015, 09:49:17 PM »
Donate any blood today in pursuit of perfection?

Did you locate a suitable shop to complete the mission on the engine?
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #325 on: November 11, 2015, 06:56:48 AM »
Red dog appears to be prepared to nest for the winter!  Guard dog appears to be claiming Square D bed area for herself!
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« Reply #326 on: November 11, 2015, 12:48:32 PM »
No blood letting...

Found a out of work diesel mech...Thinking of inviting him over for a visit
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« Reply #327 on: November 11, 2015, 02:23:55 PM »
I like the fuel door and getting the tank installed....that will be nice. I had a 40 gallon tank in the bed of a K10 Chebby p/up I used to own. Was great for driving cross country to have 56 gallons of gas. Then my bladder became the "weak link" in driving long distances. Ha! I like the "open" fuel cap part too. Very nice.

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« Reply #328 on: November 11, 2015, 07:33:02 PM »
I like the fuel door and getting the tank installed....that will be nice. I had a 40 gallon tank in the bed of a K10 Chebby p/up I used to own. Was great for driving cross country to have 56 gallons of gas. Then my bladder became the "weak link" in driving long distances. Ha! I like the "open" fuel cap part too. Very nice.
Almost had it mounted in the truck today but I was the guest speaker for a Veterans day thing at a school in the morning, then had to attend another Vet day thing at another school later on...Then I got home to discover my dog had a case of the runs INSIDE MY HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #329 on: November 11, 2015, 07:59:21 PM »
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« Reply #330 on: November 11, 2015, 08:20:32 PM »
Oh it was awful!
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« Reply #331 on: November 11, 2015, 10:35:32 PM »
At least it was not in SD,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: SquareD Part 7 Start it up!
« Reply #332 on: November 13, 2015, 11:50:45 PM »
I installed the stiffener panel and fuel door assembly today

I ran out of #10 screws and had to resort to using 1/4" hardware

It's kind of big and in your face as it were. I'll likely replace these large screws with proper size ones pdq
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« Reply #333 on: November 13, 2015, 11:53:54 PM »
Thought I'd tone it down a bit, so I sprayed it black
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« Reply #334 on: November 13, 2015, 11:54:47 PM »
It's a bit busy in here, but not to worry, the inside gets carpet glued up in the bare fiberglass
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« Reply #335 on: November 13, 2015, 11:58:48 PM »
Decal day

Had a bunch of them laying around that I had made for the truck, so I started sticking them on where they belong

I officially named the truck...pretty subdued lookin'
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« Reply #336 on: November 14, 2015, 12:00:37 AM »
I labeled the winch fair-heads with the maximum straight line ratings
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« Reply #337 on: November 14, 2015, 12:01:46 AM »
The lift eyes got labels as well
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« Reply #338 on: November 14, 2015, 12:02:58 AM »
And the master aft winch switch got labeled up too
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« Reply #339 on: November 14, 2015, 12:04:12 AM »
That's all I had time to do on Square D today!
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« Reply #340 on: November 16, 2015, 12:26:58 PM »
I have had several encounters with the dog's indoor bowel issues. Cooper was nice enough to spread it around in 5 or 6 locations so that I didn't have to clean up one big mess. Thoughtful critters those mutts. I'm liking the decals, very official, and the Square D almost looks 3D; was that intentional?
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« Reply #341 on: November 16, 2015, 02:56:25 PM »
I have had several encounters with the dog's indoor bowel issues. Cooper was nice enough to spread it around in 5 or 6 locations so that I didn't have to clean up one big mess. Thoughtful critters those mutts. I'm liking the decals, very official, and the Square D almost looks 3D; was that intentional?
Yes, intentional

A gray letter to be very subtle, with a camouflage "Shadow" to show the trucks intentions...I know.. as if that needed to be telegraphed!
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« Reply #342 on: November 16, 2015, 05:46:52 PM »
Very subtle, and very cool.
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« Reply #343 on: November 18, 2015, 09:52:01 AM »
I found a diesel mechanic, Wayne, in my church. He is between jobs at the moment and has agreed to come over and time the truck for me.

Last night I ordered the tools necessary to time the engine.

Man, it's a process. Have to pull the gear on the injection pump off the pump. Have to pull the #1 injector, injector line and the delivery valve off the #1 slot on the Bosch pump. It's a cool procedure, and very precise. You measure lift in the delivery valve orifice by the thousandth's of an inch to set the timing. I need to get some input, but I am thinking somewhere from 16-18 degrees.

If that doesn't fix the problem, then on to the next issue, which I think we will not have.
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« Reply #344 on: November 18, 2015, 10:40:45 AM »
Looks like you're gettin' ready for some loud stinky fun!
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« Reply #345 on: November 18, 2015, 11:02:34 AM »
Not having dine it, it does sound involved. I didn't think it was that much work.

I guess 15 is normal, with guys going from 16-18. I would stick with 16 for a start. Once you have it benchmarked you can tweak.
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« Reply #346 on: November 18, 2015, 03:32:32 PM »
Any Cummins smart guys out there want to weigh in?
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To me those mods would suggest 17 to 18 degrees of timing, but 16 degrees would cut the power back some, and that might be OK to keep it from spinning the tires off the wheels
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« Reply #347 on: November 18, 2015, 04:12:01 PM »
Where's our farmer/rocket scientist? he should know.
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« Reply #348 on: November 18, 2015, 06:09:52 PM »
From what I've read the higher you go the more difficult it can be to start in the cold among other things.  Have you seen the 12 valve beginners thread on cummins forum?   I mean no insult by suggesting it.  It's chock full of everything you need to know about our engines.  Fuel supply issues timing etc.  After reading that several times through I've decided I'm going to 16 or 16.5 when I time mine.  Seems to strike the best balance.  Although I have to get it in the truck and running before I mess with the pump or timing.  I did put my 4k governor springs in today though. 

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« Reply #349 on: November 18, 2015, 09:43:40 PM »
Where's our farmer/rocket scientist? he should know.
Maybe he (hopefully not) stumbled across another WW2 bomb in one of his old barns somewhere.

Anyone hear of any unexplained explosions in Nebraska lately?
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