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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 19, 2019, 08:15:21 AM »
You using an engine hoist now,,,,,!

??   This directed at me?  If so I'm confused.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 18, 2019, 10:44:52 PM »
The next step in the plan was to weld the center hub onto the carrier to help center the wheel.  After tacking in place I thought the hub looked rather large and wanted to make sure that it was not to large for the hub spacing on the wheels.  The OD of this pipe is 4-1/2"  Here it is just tacked in place until I can confirm this will work.



Then I inserted the bolts that will fasten the tire to the carrier.  These are 14 mm bolts with the same thread as the wheel studs.  These will be welded in place after confirming the wheel hub size.




And a sort of finished pic.







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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 18, 2019, 10:40:30 PM »
Don requested that there be some adjust ability in the tire carrier in case back spacing or something should change in the future.  He suggested something like he had done on C-max with a few set screws basically clamping down on the interior tube.  I wanted to do something that would be a little cleaner in my mind. 

I started out by welding a nut to a plate and then welding that plate to the inside of the 2" tube.



I then drilled a hole into a plate and welded that to the back side of the 2-1/2" tube.  To clamp the tubes together the bolt will be inserted into the hole in the rear of the 2-1/2" tube and threaded into the nut welded to the 2" tube.  The tubes will then be drawn together.  Should he need to adjust it for a larger tire in the future spacers could be added between the tubes to push the tire further away from the bumper.  It will not be a super quick and easy adjustment to make on the fly, but as this should only need to be done should there be a major change to the tires or wheels I was ok with that.




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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 18, 2019, 10:33:24 PM »
A little work on the rear tire carrier tonight.  Started out with these couple of plates and a 2" tube that will slide into the 2-1/2" receiver tube welded to the swing arm.  These plates will be stacked to give them a little more stiffness.



The first plate was cut to slide over the tube at about a 10 degree angle.



The second plate will be slapped on top of the first.  This plate had groves cut into it so that it could be welded directly to the end of the 2" tube.  Here he second plate is tacked to the tube and the 2 plates are tacked together.  After this I welded the plates together and to the tube.







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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 17, 2019, 03:22:28 PM »
In my mind there are a few unique reasons for wanting a bumper. 

Protection from collisions.  It could be with animals, other vehicles, or the surrounding terrain and vegetation.  There are three main areas to protect.  The first and most important in my mind is the radiator and on diesel trucks the intercooler.  Keep those intact and you can drive home.  Secondary to the coolers in my mind are the lights. Again, you probably hot that deer at night, and you need to be able to see to get home.  Third is the protection of the body panels and the grille.  Those items are just cosmetic, although possibly expensive to repair.

Most often times people that I talk to are most concerned with animal impacts, specificly deer. Sometimes these people contact me after they have hit a deer and need a replacement and are looking for something heavier.  Most vehicles I work with have a tall enough stance that a deer will bounce off the bumper and go under the vehicle.  It seems reasonable to me that while the body goes under the bumper, the animal's head may whip up and strike a headlight or grille.  In this case it seems reasonable to me that the head may do damage to the grille, but would unlikely cause damage to the coolers.  The brush guard tubing or grille bar may help prevent this.  It also seems reasonable to me that the head could do damage to the lights.  In this case I do not think just a grille guard would help much.  A full brush guard where there is a bar separating the high and low beams might help here.  These are really the only scenarios where I see the tubing to be helpful.  Due to my location I occasionally have some people ask me about collisions with a moose.  I guess in this case maybe a full brush guard would be more helpful.  Then again, if you hit a moose you've probably have more extensive damage and it might not matter much.
In the case of another vehicle I really don't see how the extra tube guards will help much.  Similar thoughts with driving through brush.  A guard might push sticks around your lights, but after clearing the front end it is still likely to drag down the side of the vehicle.  In some cases it might prevent a stick from puncturing the radiator. 

The next use case is somebody just looking for a bumper to mount a winch in.  This is rare for me.  I would estimate less then 10% of the bumpers I build are equipped with winch mounting features.  I would guess only half of those will ever see a winch.  In today's market there are also options for hidden winches in the stock bumpers for many vehicles.

The next group of people are those that just want to change the look of the front end.  For them the tubing makes sense if it's the look they are going for.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 16, 2019, 11:19:54 PM »
I'm hoping this is not DOTing too badly, but I've had bumpers with and with out the tubes/brush guards.  I've debated whether they are really functional.  If running into a branch it only delays the impact to the fender as it bounces off the guard.  if you hit someone or something really hard it might reduce the amount of damage to the sheet metal but it's going to bend up.  Add to that the difficulty in cleaning the front of the vehichle from the tubes (and is some cases expanded metal grates) in front.

Wondering what the builder has to say about the usefulness of the tubes?

I certainly have some thoughts on this but it is to lengthy to get into the details on my phone.   Will out something up early next week for you.  For the most part, would agree with you though.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:49:43 PM »
Similar to marking out he hole in the bumper, I printed some templates and marked where the tubing should meet the uprights.  This removes the guess work and trying to eye things up and match one side to the other.



I had to do a little trimming on the guard pieces to get the fit just right.  Over all everything came together and fit as planned.  I can generally get the bumper leveled up on the table and then if I have vertical and horizontal pieces on the tubing use those to help set the tubing in position.



First I tacked the sides and top center in place.  Checked for the overall fit and look and welded those in solid.  Where the tubing pierces through the bumper I weld on both the front and the rear a much as I can access.



Then set the lower center piece in place and welded it solid also.







And that was it for tonight.  Off on a mini trip with the wife this weekend so will be planning on finishing up the last few details on the front early next week.  Then finishing up the rear and swing arm.


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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:42:44 PM »
I got those pieces re-worked yesterday and they were waiting for me to put on the bumper tonight.  I started by preparing the bumper for the side pieces. Normally I know were these guards will be going when I have the parts laser cut, so I cut a hole in the bumper to accept the tubing.  In this case the final brush guard design was lagging behind the bumper and I wanted to get the flat steel going so I left that cut out.  In cases like this I print a 1:1 template off to mark the hole with.  Then plasma torch a hole and clean it up with a die grinder.  I like to go a little small on the torched hole and open in up with the grinder to get a good tight fit.

This is where the tube should pass through the bumper.


Template for marking the hole location.


Hole torched, cleaned up and sized.


Tube test fit in place.







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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 15, 2019, 11:37:04 PM »
Decided to switch gears and started working on the front bumper guard.  The original plan was to have new tubing formed up from one of the suppliers I typically go to for bent tubing.  I don't have a ton of shop space for a tube bender, and typically I want tighter bends then the reasonably priced tube benders can form so I just purchase these from somebody else.  After sending out prints,  they either couldn't make the parts as requested or had extremely long lead times.  I looked into the inventory of tubing I had and came up with a plan to re-work some of those pieces into what I needed.

The center sections got a couple slices on the back side and bent a few more degrees to make them sit a little more proud of the bumper.  The side pieces needed to get completely cut up, rotated, shortened, lengthened and welded back together.   These are all 2" 11 gauge welded tube.







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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: March 14, 2019, 09:55:17 AM »
So, setting aside the anatomy lesson

The cooler...

Someone out there has used this one and has an idea if it will be sufficient.

Is there?

Cause when I button the grill up, dat's it for that side show.

I generally tell folks to pull the grille for bumper installation.  Makes access to the hardware easy.

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 13, 2019, 09:46:47 PM »
Today was a tough day. Had my 15 year old behind the wheel for only the second time.




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There is your problem.  How did she get to 15 and this is only the second time behind the wheel?

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 13, 2019, 07:42:58 AM »
A little more progress last night.  First up was getting the main latch mounted up for the swing arm.  The original plan was to bolt the latch and the bracket to the bumper but decided to bolt the latch down and weld the bracket on due to space limitations.  I doubled plate everything that is going to get tapped.  So there are (2) 7 gauge plates stacked on top of each other for the latch bolts to thread into.  About 3/8".



Then I mocked up the secondary pin latch.  There will be a second pin like this on the pivot side to hold the arm open also.  I still need to locate the plate that will be welded onto the tower for this pin to drop into to hold the arm closed.





Then spent some time to finish up the bin that will be welded onto the arm to carry the fuel and water cans.  Need to do a little more clean up work on the arm and bin before the two are mated together.  No pic of that today.



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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 12, 2019, 12:05:34 PM »
Witnessed something that I thought was pretty cool this weekend.  My cousin and his 13 yr old son were in the area for wrestling tournament Saturday.  They are in Idaho and we generally only get to see them every couple of years.  My dad, uncle and I meet up and drive over to watch him wrestle and visit.  We were standing mat side when they start playing the National Anthem.  As is usual for the majority of the youth sporting events the PA system is garbage.  It took a bit for us to realize what was being played through the speakers.  The volume was so low it was barely audible, and that was only when there wasn't feedback screeching through the system.  I think it was the worst attempt at The Start Spangled Banner I have ever heard, and I've attended my share of events and heard some pretty bad ones.  At about the second line in, some guy in the crown in front of me must have got fed up and just started belting it out.  I'm certain this man must have had some sort of vocal training or experience.  His voice easily carried through the venue of probably 2,000+ people in a space that was large enough to lay 18 full size wrestling mats down.  For reference it is a tight fit to squeeze 3 mats into a standard high school gymnasium.  By the fourth line they had shut off the PA system and just let this man in the crowd finish.

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 12, 2019, 11:45:49 AM »
Box of gun parts waiting for me on the porch when I got home.  So the question that begs to be asked is will there be a range report or an update on Don's bumpers tonight?
I know which one I'd vote for!

Yeah, I think we were all looking forward to a range report too Don :angel:
:popcorn:
Yes we are...
 :knucklehead:

Unfortunately it is going to have to wait for now.  Got a mini vacation planned with the wife for this weekend.  I want to get Don's bumper's wrapped up before then so there won't be anytime for gun play this week.  If all goes as planned, I should have it ready to shoot and then test it out on the long range for next week's Monday Rifle League night.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 12, 2019, 11:25:00 AM »
Brian, is there a 10 degree tilt in the spare tire carrier?
Looks to be level...

The thing looks brutal strong.
Hope it doesn't need to be...Yikes!

There will be a 2" tube inserted into that receiver for adjustability.  The angle will be cut into that piece.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 12, 2019, 08:59:32 AM »
Still making some progress here.  Just not taking the time to take as many pictures.  Starting to get into the more tedious work now.  Started working on the swing arm over the weekend and the arm stops last night.  I still have a little bit of work to finish up and clean up on the arm stops.  Then I have a little work to finish up the bin.  Hoping to finish up the rear bumper tonight.

I have the rear bumper anchored to the weld table here so I can swing the arm open and closed.  It swings smoothly.  There are a few minor changes I would have made to the ruff stuff spindle but it will still work great.


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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 11, 2019, 04:41:12 PM »
Box of gun parts waiting for me on the porch when I got home.  So the question that begs to be asked is will there be a range report or an update on Don's bumpers tonight?

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 08, 2019, 08:20:55 AM »
Started out yesterday by cleaning up the front bumper.  Then started working on the brush guard.  First I welded the recovery mounts on.  I didn't thing I would have the best access to them after getting the brush guard uprights in place.  Then I welded the brush guard uprights in.  These slid into the slots just as planned.



Then wrapped the uprights with the 1.5" wide strip.




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Share Your Recipe / Re: hotdish -VS- casserole
« on: March 07, 2019, 11:07:47 AM »
Based off of this,  the majority of the "casseroles" I ate growing up and still make today should have actually been called "hot dishes". 

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 07, 2019, 09:35:17 AM »
Dave, am I understanding this right. You drove thru a muddy yard rather than have black tire marks on your concrete?  :huh:

The rear mulchbed sounds like a tank trap, we had better warn big D!!!!

The way I read it, he backed of the driveway with one tire, and needed to put in in 4x4 to prevent the other tire from spinning on the concrete to exit said mud bog.   :facepalm: Could be wrong though.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 07, 2019, 09:11:59 AM »
Finished up the changes needed for the winch mounting last night.  I still need to make some modifications to the back of the bumper to mount the winch.  Originally the plan was to mount the winch feet down.  Because of the space concerns I needed to change that plan up and mount the winch feet forward. 


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Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: March 06, 2019, 09:37:32 PM »
Is tater tots casserole a Midwest thing or something?

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 06, 2019, 08:03:40 PM »
The frame mounting points are the same, but there is basically a body lift on the HD and the grille is deeper.  If you look at the front of your truck, the grille comes down into the bumper.   The non-HD 2500 is straight across to the lights.

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 06, 2019, 04:06:54 PM »
Put me on the list Bear depending on payment options.

Probably however you want to do it.  My guess is I will be spear heading this thing which means I will be paying for everything, selling what I can and hoping I get reimbursed for the difference when it's all said and done.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 06, 2019, 04:05:06 PM »
Mine is a 2001 2500HD LB7


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That's right.  For some reason I thought it was a 2003.  No matter, still different than Don's 2500 non-HD.

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 06, 2019, 10:11:29 AM »
Been working with some of the guys at the gun club to expand the selection of steel we have on the range.  Thinking we could do it cheaper by purchasing a sheet of steel and having it laser cut.  Problem is a standard sheet of 1/2" AR500 is 48" x 120" and that is a lot more steel than we need.  I'm going to propose we use the remaining space to cut several sets of Know Your Limit gongs and sell them to help offset some of the cost.  Wondering if anybody here would be interested.  A set would include a 12", 10", 8", 6", 4" and 3" gong laser cut from 1/2" AR500.  I'm going to propose we ask $125 per set (normal retail is about $165-$175).  I should be able to ship them out to anybody that would be interested for $20 in a flat rate USPS box I think.  I'm thinking I should have 5 sets and hoping to have atleast a few sold before pulling the trigger.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 06, 2019, 09:04:33 AM »
so let me ask this question.

would it make things easier if you made some sort of a moveable jig?

for example:  start with your frame mounts and move upwards and outwards from there.....to help keep the straightness and to prevent shrinkage?

With the inherent strength in the shape of the front bumper I get very little movement.  I go get a little bit of movement in the rear bumpers, but it is predictable and doesn't cause and issues with fit and isn't noticeable unless you are really looking hard and comparing truck lines to that of the bumper.  I was a little concerned that thinning up the front would cause an issue.  For that reason I modified the front mounting brackets to that they bolt on to the bumper and onto the truck.  Usually I weld the frame mounting bracket directly to the bumper on most models and there is virtually no adjustability.  I am going to ask Don to weld the mounting brackets in place after he gets the bumper on and adjusted to his liking.

I've explored some fixturing previously. A couple reasons I never went done that path:
- the way I have everything in CAD and laser cut makes for a near perfect fit.  Using my methods gives me very predicable results when I tack the bumper together.  I use to measure the span form left to right fender edge to make sure everything was tracking well.  After tacking I would be +/- 1/8" over about 78" of width.  That is incredibly good.  That measurement barely changes after welding.  I don't measure any more, unless I feel something is off or for some reason I am fighting to tack one together.
- I would need a unique fixture for each model.  I don't have the space to store that much tooling, nor do I want to carry that much overhead.
- When I am tacking and welding them up I can easily flip, turn and position the bumper to make it easier to work on.
- I like the ability to be extremely flexible in what I can do.  A fixture would be another thing I need to worry about when I start talking to a "Don" and they want me to change everything for them.


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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 06, 2019, 08:17:34 AM »

Brian, you got my number feel free to give me a call when you want to go shoot. I can come on down that way or you can come up this way. As for a scope hold on...

https://www.customar15.net/product/sig-sauer-tango-4-first-focal-plane-scope/


I was thinking I would give you a call when I get it put together, and it hopefully warms up a bit.  That Sig Saur wasn't on my radar before.  Looks nice and a decent price for FFP.  I was looking at the Vortex Strike Eagle as an option but that is SFP.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 06, 2019, 07:42:12 AM »
Brian don’t throw that design away. May have to get that design for my LB7


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There is actually a quite a bit different from the 03.  There was a substantial frame change and obviously some styling changes.  But I could definitely transfer some ideas to an 03 bumper.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 06, 2019, 07:39:47 AM »
Sure looks good for having a woops!! Would love to have some of your work on our 74.... maybe later this year.

Thanks,  it's rare that I get through one-off like this without some type of whoops.  No matter how much planning I do in 3-D there always seems to be something I miss.  This was a rather big miss, and it took a while to figure out how to move forward, but I think the solution will turn out very clean.

When the time comes I would be glad to try and help out on your 74.  I've never done anything like that, but those older vehicles are easier to work with.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 05, 2019, 10:39:52 PM »
Got the front all welded up and the rough grind down done.



Then started cutting out the center section for the winch.  Got a little figuring to do in CAD to determine what exactly I need to put back in where.



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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: March 05, 2019, 08:07:40 AM »
Link to company? Those soft shackles look cool, never heard of em before but not a hard core wheeler either.

Extinguishers only work if you can get to them,,,,,,

Need to see some tire on that critter!
https://tuffstuff4x4.com/product-category/recovery-gear/

TuffStuff 4X4
Actually a couple of co-joined companies, manufacturer and 4X4 company who owns the manufacturing activity.
 866-220-0171
Ask for Amador
I want to develop the relationship with them. I am always on the prowl for good people to associate RealMan with.
I have something in the works...
https://www.facebook.com/tuffstuff4x4racing
https://www.instagram.com/tuffstuff4x4/

I must have talked to him yesterday after you did.  I had sent an email earlier in the day and then called in the afternoon.  After hanging up I was confused as to how he knew this was for a Suburban.  I didn't think I had mentioned that earlier.

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 04, 2019, 03:59:19 PM »
Only thing I don't like about the palmetto uppers is almost all are 1/7 twist. That's better for heavier rounds, 55gr may tumble some, but that is not set in stone.

My latest is 1/8, but most are 1/9 that favor the 55gr more.

Good luck on your build, pretty easy compared to what we do around here all the time.

This is a 1/7 twist.  I don't mind the faster barrel.  If this gun is accurate enough it gives me an option to load up a heavier pill around 90gr should I want to and try to reach out further with it before the wind blows it completely off the map.

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 04, 2019, 03:54:39 PM »
Bear, may i recommend you use the flip up sights first and then get into an optic.

An AR15 is silly simple to zero....as long as you have quality sights

Nate, that is kind of what I plan to do.  Once I get it put together I will do some shooting with the flip up sights to get a feel for it and run it through its paces.  After that I want to put my good scope on to better understand what the gun's capable of.  Now I have never seen and don't know how precise I will be able to shoot with the flip up sights on this, but I know the open sights on a couple of my rifles cover a 3" dot pretty easily.  Pretty hard to determine how tight of a group a gun is capable of it you can't see what you are aiming at.   So I put the scope on just to see if it is a 2 MOA or 1/2  MOA or probably somewhere in between.  Then I will pull the scope back off and shoot the flip up sights for a while.

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 04, 2019, 03:13:34 PM »
Beaver Dam area.  The club I'm a member at is in Columbus.

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 04, 2019, 03:02:07 PM »
Yeah AR10s..sore subject. Thanks to Shawn, mine works pretty good now.

Thanks to your misfortune, my AR10 worked from day one!

If you ever want to go for a little drive and stretch that things legs out a little I would be happy to meet you at the range some day.  One range is paper targets from 25-200 yards and the other is set-up with steel for 350 - 600.

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 04, 2019, 03:00:00 PM »
Ordered a rifle kit from Palmetto yesterday.  $400 for everything but the stripped lower.  I can pick up an Anderson stripped lower locally for $50 so I figure I will do that.  The upper comes with Magpul flip up sights.  After assembly and a little break in I will drop one of my good optics on it just to better understand the gun's capability then pull that off and just run the flip up sights until I figure out what I want for an optic.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 04, 2019, 09:36:17 AM »
Not a ton or work completed since the update Friday night.  I did get the rear bumper all grinded down and ready to start adding on extra parts to.  Forgot to take a picture of that getting done Saturday.  Then did some welding on the center section of the front bumper.  Before I moved on with the front I test fitted the winch mounting brackets.  As I was putting it together I was getting concerned.  I had shrunk everything up quite a bit for down and it was looking pretty small, to small to fit a winch I thought.  After doing some checking my suspicions were confirmed, I had forgotten to take into account the size needed for the winch I started shrinking the front.  Had a little back and forth with Don Sunday to better understand his winch requirements and I have the start of a plan in motion to resolve the issues.  It is going to be one of those times where the plasma torch comes in handy.  One of the reasons I like working with steel though is because with a welder, torch and grinder and can fix just about any screw up I make.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 04, 2019, 09:28:51 AM »
TRN asked about what welder I was using so I thought I would do a post on my tools.

First tool I use is the computer and CAD programs.  I run CREO, which use to be Pro-E.  It is similar to some more of the more commonly known CAD programs like Solid Works.  It isn't as user friendly but a bit more powerful in my opinion.  It is what I first started using and learned and I also use CREO at work.

I run a Lincoln Power Mig 255 welder.  I go through enough gas that I lease a bigger tank from the local Air Gas.  I also have a smaller tank that I own.  I keep that one full so I can swap it out should I run out.  Most welding shops usually aren't open on the weekends and I get most of my work done on the weekends so I like to keep a spare around.  I swapped the factory whip out for a Tregaskiss Tough Gun whip a couple years back.  I also run .045" wire for most jobs.  I keep a 44lb spool of wire at all times also.



I also have a Hypotherm Powermax 30 plasma torch.  If I have a standard job I don't need this at all.  On one off stuff like Don's I try and design everything in CAD but something can be missed and then the torch comes. This unit is rated for 3/8" steel but I have successfully cut 1/2" taking it slow.  This unit can run on 110 or 220.  When in the shop I run it on 220.



I've got 3 main grinders.

The big 7"/9" that I do the majority of the cleanup work with and (2) smaller 4-1/2" grinders.  I keep the abrasive disk on the one grinder for lighter clean up work etc.  I swap between a cut-off wheel and hard grinding disk on the other depending on what I am doing.  Someday I will pick up a 3rd one so I can have a dedicated grinder with a cut-off wheel and one with a hard grinding disk.  The big grinder in this pic has a 9" hard disk.  That is what I use to get the rough grinding done.  The bigger the wheel is the faster it will grind down.  I usually run that disk until it is about 4"-5".  Then I swap for a new one and use the used up one on the 4-1/2" grinder for smaller jobs.  I can get about 2 rear and 2 front bumpers grinded down per 9" hard disk.



After the rough grind through this fiberglass backing pad set up on with a 9" abrasive disk.  This will clean the bumper up nice and blend all the corners in.  You can pull some material off real quick when these disks are fresh, but once they start to where out they are much less effective.  I usually use 1 or sometimes 2 per bumper.  You have to be a little careful when running these.  If you catch an edge you can start to tear one up and then it kind of blows up on you.



Those are my main tools.  I would like a few others but I am limited on floor space.  I basically work out of the third stall of my garage.  I have the last stall walled off from the other 2 to keep the mess I create just in my area.



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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« on: March 03, 2019, 10:35:40 PM »
Rough estimate of 200lbs added to the front including winch.  300lbs on the rear between bumper, swing arm, spare tire and 15 gallons of liquid.

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Share Your Recipe / Re: whats your preferred beverage of choice
« on: March 02, 2019, 07:04:37 PM »
Hmm.  When we make a sour Old Fashioned here in Wisconsin we use 50/50 soda.

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Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: March 02, 2019, 06:55:45 PM »
That sounds pretty handy.  Plan your cuts accordingly so you cover your exposed cuts and nobody would be the wiser.

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 02, 2019, 01:22:26 PM »
Lol Bear. I was just thinking I was the youngest at 32...


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I've got you by a couple years.

Just got back from the range this morning.  Pulled the plow of this morning and loaded the ATV up so I could get out and check and paint steel on the 600 yard range.  Then flung some lead for a bit.  It was a nice sunny 20 degree day.  A little windy but not to bad.

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D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: March 02, 2019, 01:04:32 PM »
Man, you guys sure do make me feel young sometimes.  I'm not posting my age until that kid that saved the bumper off of Square D comes I here to tell is how old he is, otherwise m pretty sure I'm the youngest.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 02, 2019, 08:41:03 AM »
Thanks, after you build a couple hundred you learn a few tricks.  I was thinking last night I should do a post with what tools I use.

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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 01, 2019, 11:25:42 PM »
Then started tacking the center section of the front bumper up. Started out by  cleaning up and laying out the 7 gauge pieces.  Again these pieces are notched and tabbed so everything slides together.



I start by attaching the frame pieces to the left and right side center section.  I place all the framing pieces together to hold the parts square and in place.  Then I tack those 2 pieces to the center plate.





Next I tack the top plate in place.  This piece is also notched and tabbed and helps to pull everything in place.



After that I start filling in the other panels.  Here is the last of the 7 gauge pieces.



These to upper panels were cut from 10 gauge as will be the rest of the panels.



Those slots on the side will be to locate the upright for the grille guard.  They also allow the upright to pass through the bumper and be welded directly to the frame/ mounting bracket that will be bolted to the truck.





And that concluded tonight's activities in the shop.  Next up will be checking the fit of the winch mounting brackets before welding the center section up.  Should get that done tomorrow as well as tacking together the wing sections and welding the entire front bumper solid.







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Build Threads / Re: 2002 Suburban Bumpers
« on: March 01, 2019, 11:16:22 PM »
Started off by welding the rear bumper solid.  Not a whole lot to show there.  You may have noticed when I tacked it together there are a few seams that are pretty much straight up butt welds darn near.  I like to open those up with a grinder before filling them back in with weld to make sure I get good penetration. 







After welding the outside shell up I move to the inside to weld all the frame pieces.  I normally don't weld the inside seams but I do like to put a plug weld in all the corners and at the end of a seam.





Then I tacked up the receiver mounting bracket.  On the stock bumper there is an internal support that the receiver bolts up into.  This is an important piece to support the tongue weight for the factory receiver.  A lot of the heavier aftermarket units don't need this but the stock unit definitely does.  You can ask one of my customers who forgot to intall those bolts what happens if you forget.  Hint: you don't make it out of the drive way with your loaded car trailer before the receiver is dragging on the ground.  This piece gets welded up to the underside of the bumper step after welding the hidden nuts in place.





This is all the progress for the rear bumper tonight. Hopefully should be able to do some grinding on it tomorrow.







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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 01, 2019, 07:32:38 PM »
I put more rounds through my precision bolt gun then anything else.  I expect to shoot that barrel out this year.  I started doing some PRS style stuff last year and trying to get a league and some weekend matches planned for this year.

I'm thinking about a 6.5 grendal in the future as it uses the .223 bolt face and it is cheaper to build an accurate gas AR15 then AR10.

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 01, 2019, 04:01:33 PM »
Almost all brand name ARs with good/decent ammo will do that all day.

Do what?  1 or 2 MOA, or a .1" group at 100 yards?

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Firearms / Re: AR15 Shopping
« on: March 01, 2019, 03:39:40 PM »
What type of accuracy can be expected out of a relatively speaking budget build?  1MOA at 100, 2MOA at 100?

These are the type of 5 shot groups I have grown accustomed to with my bolt gun. 



Any group over 1/2" at 100 is just flat out unacceptable.  I'm guessing TRN is gaging accuracy using a similar stick.  I'm thinking this gun will just be a plinker at shortish ranges. Mostly inside 100 yards so no need to be super accurate.  In the future I am wanting to build a 6.5 Grendal that I would be able to shoot at the 600 yard range if I wanted and could stretch out to 1000 should the occasion present itself.  I would plan to pony up for a better bolt carrier group, barrel and trigger in that gun, but don't really know if they are needed for this one.

I was thinking .223 wylde so I could maybe try and tweak a .223 load to try and get the best accuracy for hunting, but could still run surplus 5.56 for fun/ plinking.


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