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Ramcharger Rebuild
« on: March 31, 2019, 08:19:21 PM »
Ok in the spirit of oil change I have started the rebuild of the Ramcharger.

First order of business was to get the 92 body that I am going to use off the frame that has been sold.   I dont have a lift but I do understand Hydraulics and mechanical jacks and gravity if that all goes wrong.

I disconnected all the electrical, removed the front core support and then unbolted the body mounts using a HYd floor jack and wooden 4x4 blocks.  I raised the body enough to use camper jacks that are used on the pickup style campers, the pucker factor getting the body high enough was pretty high once high enough I inserted a 2x6 under the body to use the camper jacks.  I then also took off the back tires and used a floor jack under the rear differential and just rolled the whole assembly out from under the body.

Once the frame was out of the way I lowered the body down as low as the camper jack would let me and used the Rigid tripod stands to set everything on.  The body is really clean and zero rot, just surface rust

The plan after I get rid of the 92 frame is to do the same treatment to the 90 that got rolled.  Planning a few upgrades I will list them in the next couple days.  at least the project is rolling or sitting how ever you want to look at it and not bad for a half days work.     
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2019, 08:28:59 PM »
The camper jacks I used I scored off of Craigs list , I got all 4 for $100 and are in really good shape.  I am going to make some mounts and adapters so that I can lower the body much lower.  These jacks had zero issues raising or lowering the body they are just to high of a start point.

http://www.riecotitan.com/camperjacks/standardtripod.php

I will be making a body dolly so that I can move this assembly around while I am working on it.  I hate having immovable objects in my driveway.

Also I could of ran a bar or beam thru the cab of the body and used the front body mount holes  to attach chains but I didnt want to take the doors off and you could also use the seatbelt mount to attach chains to the same bar but that will put the bar against the door frame pretty hard in hind-site that should of been how I did it but I wanted to get this done because the guy who bought the frame/drive-line was starting to get excited about getting the setup so I wanted to get it done.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2019, 08:35:00 PM »
My neighbors give me a wide berth and pretty much dont say anything to me but its funny to see their reaction when the see what I am doing.  The guy that lives next door to me said "you amaze me I have a hard time putting on mud flaps and you disassemble an entire truck in an afternoon"     

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2019, 08:43:51 PM »
And for those of you that dont remember or dont know the story, after getting a truck pretty dialed in I let someone drive it and they rolled it over on its roof for me.  When this happened it completely tweaked the Body to the point nothing would close or open correctly.  So I needed a new body.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2019, 09:25:42 PM »
 :likebutton: glad to see you’re making progress with the resurrection
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2019, 09:26:05 PM »
That’s a pretty backdrop. After stroking a check for more taxes than I already paid, I don’t think CA is where I’m going anytime soon.

Good progress.  Looking forward to updates. 


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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2019, 09:34:15 PM »
How did it turn out with the buddy and $ up for the damage caused by his girl?


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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2019, 09:47:50 PM »
It went well believe it or not!  Did he give me enough to cover all the damages? NO, more than I expected YES!  I say it was a good as one can expect.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2019, 09:57:12 PM »
That’s a pretty backdrop. After stroking a check for more taxes than I already paid, I don’t think CA is where I’m going anytime soon.

Good progress.  Looking forward to updates. 


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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2019, 10:03:20 PM »
That’s a pretty backdrop. After stroking a check for more taxes than I already paid, I don’t think CA is where I’m going anytime soon.

Good progress.  Looking forward to updates. 


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Ramcharger Rebuild
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2019, 10:30:57 PM »
Awesome to see this progress! I made a 2x4 stand on furniture Dolly’s to take the cab off the frame...



You can see the stand before being lifted onto Dolly’s in the garage.
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2019, 08:22:44 AM »
That’s a pretty backdrop. After stroking a check for more taxes than I already paid, I don’t think CA is where I’m going anytime soon.

Good progress.  Looking forward to updates. 


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Great progress Phil and you definitely have "WANNA". If you wanna get something done you just do it. I agree with TRN on Cali. I lived there in the 80's and it was ok. I still would have loved to live there 100 years ago. Orange groves everywhere. Now not so much.

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Re: Ramcharger Rebuild
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2019, 09:38:27 PM »
Ok just a small update, I got rid of the 92 frame and running gear so that is not in the way anymore.  The I made a cradle to set the body on while I an prepping it, the swivel caster wheel will be here tomorrow.  Then I can start on prepping everything, stripping out the interior that is there.  Yes I know I am not a carpenter but it should work well for the time period I will be using it 

 Nothing wrong with the stands its sitting on now but just needed to be mobile.

AND one more lovely thing i get to pay for being a person in California a 1% tax on wood + the local sales tax.  Gotta love the retards out here.

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Re: Ramcharger Rebuild
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2019, 09:56:14 PM »
Nice work for a driveway. Have to remember that for the burb, but not this driveway!

I like the work stands too. HF has some taller ones but those look about the right height. Is that HF impact too?

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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2019, 09:57:34 PM »
Looks legit to me. :thumb


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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2019, 10:00:22 PM »
Oh, don't get me started on Ca again. Did our taxes and was OK with the Fed, Ca took 1/2 that back and she made 20k less last year.
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2019, 10:15:48 PM »
Nice work for a driveway. Have to remember that for the burb, but not this driveway!

I like the work stands too. HF has some taller ones but those look about the right height. Is that HF impact too?

JR those stand are 100% made in USA, Rigid brand, very well made and folding they were the same price as the Made in China brands, 2500 lbs rating, i got mine thru MSC because I get a good discount and free shipping

https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/74799271

And the impact is a Snapon, I have had it for years, never let me down and the batteries last a long long time.  Most of my cordless are Snapon I have a few others but the Snapon units have held up the best.
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2019, 10:38:50 PM »
That is really not a bad price for what they are, Thx.
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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2019, 10:45:15 PM »
We got some new neighbors who moved in next door.

Lived in California. Said it was way too liberal for them and they couldn't stand being there any more. Said that they owned a home in Baja, Mexico which they went to often to get away from cali. He said being here felt so good compared to the fast paced oppressive feeling of being out there.

He has to be loving life. We are about polar opposites of the cali mindset. Literally, we have almost none of the silliness that good people have to put up with there.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2019, 10:57:18 PM »
Lucky stiffs. My wife just loves it here, her cousin near Sac says paying more here is worth it (another Gov employee)

I'm stuck for a few years but he plans are in place for my exodus as the kids get in school.
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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2019, 11:05:00 PM »
That got me to thinking...And sorry for junking up your thread Phil

                                 Cali      Kentucky
Gun control                Yes      No
Wood tax                   Yes      No
Illegals                      Yep      Not so much
Magazine restriction    Yes      Nope
Pollution inspection     Yes      No
Police everywhere       Yes      Not many at all
Gangs                        Yes      I haven't seen any
Rednecks                   Yes      Yes
People crappin            Yes      In toilets
Free syringes              Yes     No
Land sold by sq ft        Yes     Say what???
Crowded 5 lanes          Yes     No 5 lane roads
Zillions of people          Yes    Dozens
Inheritance tax            yes     Nope
Concealed carry           Yes     Yes, for everyone without permit
High taxes                   Yes     No
Rolling brownouts         Yes    Say what?
Cancer disclaimer         Yes    We know not to smoke paint or chew on boom boxes
Environmental police     Yep   Nope
Building permits            Yes   Only in some counties
Endangered species       AC    We eat them              (AC=American Citizens)
Hippies                         Yes   Say What?
Gays                            Yes    Probably, but you never hear about them
Protesters                     Yes    Everyone has a concealed carry weapon
Happiness                     No     Yep
Moonshine                    No     Definitely!
Freedom                       No     Yep
Accept newcomers        Yes     No one from California, Colorado, Austin Texas, Massachusetts (or any other NE state)
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2019, 11:24:36 PM »
Hey, you wouldn't let me move there!!

Inheritance tax only if over 5 million.

And we have moonshine. Several bottles still awaiting my use.

Oh, and the mag ban is gone for now.  :laugh:
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« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2019, 07:05:56 AM »
Don. The company is trying to get me to move to Indy or Louisville. Still thinking hard. Louisville has a 2point local income tax


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« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2019, 08:22:17 AM »
Don. The company is trying to get me to move to Indy or Louisville. Still thinking hard. Louisville has a 2point local income tax


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« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2019, 08:58:21 AM »
Hey, you wouldn't let me move there!!

Inheritance tax only if over 5 million.

And we have moonshine. Several bottles still awaiting my use.

Oh, and the mag ban is gone for now.  :laugh:
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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2019, 09:03:16 AM »
Don. The company is trying to get me to move to Indy or Louisville. Still thinking hard. Louisville has a 2point local income tax


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Your girls are Kentucky pretty, so would fit into the social elite pretty well. Big hats in the spring for the race and all that. I could get you to buy that piece of land behind mine and we could co-op.

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« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2019, 11:45:11 AM »
That was my fault for starting it with the mentioning of the California privilege.

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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2019, 02:36:16 PM »
Let s get this back on the rails or on the cradle however you want to look at it.

I fabed up some adapters to bolt to the camper jacks, basically some 18 X 6 l brackets with side supports welded on.  Then I used a 6.5' 2 X 6 steel tube to connect the jacks under the body. Next I attached the casters to the cradle.  Then fed the cradle thur the center of the supports and raised the back enough to set it on the rear posts and then lowered the jacks to set to on the front, lagged the posts to the body.  I am happy with the height as i can work on most of the body now with out having to lay on the ground.  like having the trick on my workbench.   

Learned a lot and if I ever do this again i would make things much differently, I'm still OK with how it turned out now I can move it around and my house doesn't look like the local salvage yard. 

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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2019, 04:49:36 PM »
Looks like a great place for the neighbor cat to sleep. 


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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2019, 06:28:12 PM »
I don;t see any brakes on those casters??


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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2019, 09:29:01 PM »
Brakes just slow me down, I have a set of chalks I use.

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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2019, 07:54:18 PM »
Ok small update, things slowed down the last couple weeks but still working on getting this done. 

I reconnected the battery on the RC that got rolled and with one turn the old Cummins fired right up and idled like its supposed to.  I had it on my car trailer to save space so got it off the trailer hosed it down and parked it next to the 92 body.

I started the interior removal of the 92 and got the windshield, dash, wiring harness, seats, steering column out of the way.  The reason I removed the windshield is the bolts for the dash are under the seal you can get to them but its much simplier with the windshield out of the way.

The other reason is in the corners the Dodges always leak because the design is poor and the metal cracks over time, I will be fixing this flaw.

One thing to notice is the cracks in the spot weld area on the floor pan, this is a flaw I have seen in the later series Ramchargers, Im guessing due to the metal change in the late 80’s and poor design, the cracks were horrible on the 90 to the point I just plated the whole area. This will get the same treatment   
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2019, 07:59:58 PM »
Well at least you sold that old motor.....


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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2019, 08:24:13 PM »
So the list of improvements will be as follows, I have at this point in time to stay with the 46RH Non-lockup I have the 47RH cores but don’t know if the added cost and effort is really worth the LU function.

So the list,

1.   Convert to Hydro Boost.
2.   New Deaver Front springs and have them rebuild the rears.
3.    Rear spring plate flip and relocate the lower shock mount.
4.   Doubler for the NP205
5.   New Body mounts (no Lift)
6.   New 100% overhauled Cummins
7.   Rebuilt the TC for the 46RH either by Huges or TCI up in Canada, this will supposedly get the converter in the 95% efficiently range.
8.   Freshen the 46RH new seals and clutches with current upgrades.
9.   New rea bumper with winch, I am abandoning the fuel tank rear bumper design is was nice not to carry around fuel jugs but not really worth the hassle for the 10Gal that it held.
10.   Sound Deadener, I learned lots the last time so I should be able to really get this setup really quiet .
11.   For tire size I might just stick with the 285/70/17 (33) maybe 35” but I should really go with a wider rim is I jump to the 35” and I will have to trim the front fenders a little, don’t want to
        do that as I like having the factory rims but the are kind of narrow.
12.   Debating if I will fully box the frame.
13.   I'm ditching the current roof rack setup and going to go with the 80/20 setup like Don did, the rack I have is great but way too heavy.
13.   Lots of other small improvements which I will document as I go   
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2019, 08:25:22 PM »
Well at least you sold that old motor.....


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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2019, 09:19:35 PM »
Well at least you sold that old motor.....


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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2019, 09:35:31 PM »
Its nice to be nice

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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2019, 12:09:16 AM »
Ok made a little progress today, got the roof off and the quarter PNL, door, fender and associated parts.  Not too hard to do but have a couple saws-all blades and jig saw where necessary.  As you can see from the roof pilar cuts how much the tub was tweaked.

Next will be the other side and then things will be a little simpler to work on once the body is out of the way.

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« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2019, 12:12:17 AM »
Also to give you an idea of how hard it went over, look at the rear bumper bracket, its very fortunate she was in the Ramcharger.

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« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2019, 12:21:24 AM »
Also one interesting note the rear windows survived the rollover, once i figured out how to get the molding off it pretty simple to get them out, there is ZERO mechanical clips holding the windows in the frame, its all the window seal goop, on the bottom of the window frame there are two saddle blocks the window sets on.

Once i got a hole in the sealant i just fished a .032 safety wire and used it as a saw, its harder with one person as you have to move the anchor point on the inside once you loose mechanical advantage while moving around but I got both windows out with out breaking them.   

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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2019, 12:29:19 PM »
Yep, save those parts. Are the fenders and hood good?
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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2019, 12:46:23 AM »
One fender and maybe the passenger door.  That pile you see is already on the way to the china man

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« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2019, 02:53:32 PM »
I got all of the old body cut down and removed.  The junk man will love me. 

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« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2019, 02:59:01 PM »
I know some of you will ask so, I bought these wheel dolly's so I can stay in the sprit of keeping it mobile.  I went this route because these unit are rated for 2K and they have a frame that flips up and you can go right on the axles.  They are well built and stakable when not in use.

Only con so far is the wheels are on bushings and not bearings so there is too much effort to move.  I will be fixing that.

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« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2019, 03:04:39 PM »
 As with any project I was trying out some new gloves, the disposable are OK but hands get sweaty and they are not real durable.  I gave these a try and they are very good durable and hands dont sweat.  Made in the great white north, still use Ipad/Phone with them, Mechanix are good but too bulky and after a couple months they are not in good shape.  These will last a week NP and then go to the next pair. about $1 a pair

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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2019, 03:14:35 PM »
So when Dodge moved production down mexico way back in the late 80's they supposedly changed the steel they made the truck out of.  Thinner and stronger was the story.  Every late 80's early 90'd dodge truck/RC i have taken apart has look like this in some degree, this was the floor under the driver, when I did the conversion I just made a plate and reinforced the whole area.


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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2019, 03:40:02 PM »
We use gloves like that in the cabinet shop, melamine has really sharp edges and cuts ya u pretty good.

I like em


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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2019, 03:54:06 PM »
So when Dodge moved production down mexico way back in the late 80's they supposedly changed the steel they made the truck out of.  Thinner and stronger was the story.  Every late 80's early 90'd dodge truck/RC i have taken apart has look like this in some degree, this was the floor under the driver, when I did the conversion I just made a plate and reinforced the whole area.

Makes me wonder what wife’s RC looks like. Our “road” to hardball is terrible which makes me think these issues would be exacerbated.

Eh who knows. Most likely just going to go into a Connex box and wait to be drive again.

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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2019, 12:00:36 PM »
Your wifes RC will be fine, it was still made in the USA then.  87-88 is when the shift occurred

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« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2019, 12:37:33 PM »
What brand are those gloves? Can't really see it.
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