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19951
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support 2016
« on: December 08, 2016, 07:13:33 PM »
We have some more money coming in, I am told which is exciting.

I picked up some flannel sheets, but nothing else. I REALLY want to get each girl a coat, but momma has threatened physical bodily damage my way if I dare purchase anything without her approving nod.

I am wise in such matters. I didn't buy the two coats (Yet).

You have daughters and HH6. Let them deal with the girl stuff, it's safer for you that way.
Copy that

But, man I don't want to delegate this. I want to do it all, just want to

19952
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 08, 2016, 07:07:50 PM »
We have some more money coming in, I am told which is exciting.

I picked up some flannel sheets, but nothing else. I REALLY want to get each girl a coat, but momma has threatened physical bodily damage my way if I dare purchase anything without her approving nod.

I am wise in such matters. I didn't buy the two coats (Yet).

19953
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 08, 2016, 07:01:12 PM »
It sucks when there are good people like this, busting their backsides to make a living and take care of family, but getting kicked down at every turn. What's worse is the number of people stealing oxygen on the government dole, with no drive or desire to work for what they get. I am so glad there are people like you and the anonymous benefactors in their apartment complex trying to provide these folks assistance. God is definitely working here.
Well, I am next to nobody in the mix. Its the holy spirit (The same thing God sees when he looks at me) that is doing this. I, like you and the others are only hands and feet and mouthpieces, little more.

We give all the glory for this outpouring of love to our God and Jesus!

19954
D.O.T. / Re: 1961 GMC Suburban/Duramax
« on: December 08, 2016, 02:22:49 PM »
Re-bodied!

That is a truck chassis with a 61 body sitting on it.

Great conversion, cool idea

19955
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 02:20:32 PM »
Very cool about Gary. We are fortunate to have men like him in the USA.

Don I have a stupid question....the engines on the back of the Chinooks....do they provide any thrust or is that simply exhaust and all forward power is from the rotors? I had never thought about it before but for some reason one of the ones on the last page made me wonder? I suspect not as the Canadian version seems to have the exhaust angled up a bit but just figured I would ask.
No forward thrust per-see. Upward angled exhaust found on the Lycoming L-714 version of that engine deflects hot gases up to both reduce the IR signature (A joke, really) but more importantly, to prevent troops disembarking from being roasted on the spot. Yes, that does happen. I think upwards of 500F air can get all the way to the ground with straight back exhausts, whereas the upward tilt negates that somewhat

19956
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Jeep CJ-66
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:41:47 AM »
Had two Cappuccino's this mornin'

Feelin' all euro at the moment

Got me in the mood to git writtin' on another book!

Hell, I've started up to 2/3 on three now. But like SquareD, they ain't finished!

Writtin' can be fun!

19957
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Jeep CJ-66
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:37:32 AM »
I'm trying to remember the excuse you gave the mps....


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A reading from the Book of Don..

Pg.150, Paragraph 2.

 "... Doug, who was the ranking guy in our dust-covered group, took a long look at me before stepping forward. He told the Sergeant what a great job the driver - me (Don)- had done in steering to avoid a ground hog that had been standing in the road."



Blame early morning reading, and a cup of coffee for that exact quote.

You know, it just dawned on me how this and all the farm equipment wreckage is somehow interconnected. You see I believe this early positive reinforcement of piss poor at best off road maneuvering left an imprint on Big D's psyche that this was in fact what is supposed to happen anytime you venture off the paved mall parking lots. Furthermore, even those slight instances where he is getting stuck in the mall mulch beds is further evidence of this original incorrectly applied pat on the rear..... ::)
You seein' a trend here?

I ain't got no psyche, the Armee took that from me a long time ago!

19958
D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:36:08 AM »
Happy B-Day Tex! I like being in my 50's....I can still do a lot of the stuff I want to do but also have the wisdom (at least I think I do! Ha) to know what I should avoid!

Good for you Jon....paying respects to someone like that is a nice gesture. Sorry for your loss even if there was a lot of differences between you.

Never thought about just back feeding a system through 220 but essentially that's all the interconnect for the generator hookup does anyway right? All electrical panels and wiring in a house are is an open system and power flows where the breakers let's it. But I will get an electrician to do it so I don't end up running 220 to my TV or something else and burning down my house! Haha  :o
Wil,

Just a thought

You keep playing with electricity in this manner and you'll stop enjoyin' your fifties abruptly

Just sayin'

19959
Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: Pense/Stephanapolis interview
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:34:03 AM »
I know!

The Hillary crowd.

Lost their ability to see the truth a long time ago.

I posted this to demonstrate how the ignorant left really just wants to create anger, hatred, division, and could care less about meaningful progress. They are so ignorant of the truth as to create a blight on progress, and freedom. They kill truth, hate God with everything they do, and well, we just need to continue to minimize them to a place where they amount to nothing more than a crying baby in the back room.

Good news: We won't be seeing any of them in heaven!

19960
Firearms / Re: Gun Control...The truth
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:30:17 AM »
Don can you share your source?  Makes the argument with a liberal more fun to watch their head explode


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Tex, was sent to me by a very high ranking Armee officer friend of mine. He likes aggravating his warrant officer friends. I think I deleted the source stuff which was co-mingled with his address, which I protect.

19961
Don, if the gas company guy will drive back and fill the smaller tank, why not get one twice the size and not worry about running out before spring. I rent a tank from Cenex and they are very reasonable. I think you would get a better price with a larger delivery also. 
Its all academic at this point. Tomorrow they install the 120, and I'll back that up with another larger tank and I'll be G-T-G

19962
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:23:53 AM »
Don, we (county Public Works) are helping 3 families get through the holidays, it is so sad knowing even when so many are helped there are so many more that get no help.
First of all: Good/Great

Secondly: When we surrender our lives and accept Jesus, we accept his agenda as well. If the holy spirit truly dwells within someone, they can no more turn a blind eye to this sort of need than Jesus could.

19963
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 09:09:23 AM »
Let me tell you about this guy in the pic. His name is Gary, a friend of mine. That pic was taken in Afghanistan in 2008. He had just returned from an assault. He had this dash cam thing set up. I watched the film. In it you can see a hajji setup and fire an RPG at Gary's aircraft. The streak goes right over the nose, pretty close. You can hear someone saying Oh F__k audibly. Keep in mind that front office has noise levels around 130 db.

So Gary was in the desert war. He was also in Vietnam, in 1969! He was a Marine infantryman, an enlisted guy. When Ka-sang was overrun by NVA forces, Gary was one of 4 guys who lived to tell about that. four men survived from an entire company of Marines! Gary went on to serve another tour as a Marine sergeant, again in Vietnam. He served from the 1960's and as a sixty something year old, was still flying combat sorties in Afghanistan!!!!!!!!!!!

A couple years later, while I was the lead for my organization flying helos in Kandahar, Gary showed up again as a contract pilot, flying H-3's for what was left of Black Water. The man is a Spartan. A legend, A true, down to the core Warrior. And he lives in an underground house in Tennessee that has shooting ranges all around it. I deeply respect this man! He literally served over 40 years

19964
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 08:59:51 AM »
True

Just had a thought

Ever notice how nose art tends toward images of our ladys?

So how exactly does that sync up with a military embracing gays and transvestites

My opinion: The military is here to kill our enemies, hopefully without getting sweaty while doing it. We ought to reverse the policies allowing gays and the sexually confused to openly serve.

But that's just me (and several million others)

19965
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 08:55:50 AM »
Nose art...Gotta love nose art

My favs were:

Wierd Science B Co. 2/160 SOAR
Home sick angel, Innkeepers, An-Jin-Ri, Korea
Mammas Boys  A co 2/160 SOAR

19966
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 08:52:24 AM »
First contact, send your best!

19967
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 08:51:18 AM »
Oregon boys

19968
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 08:49:54 AM »
Last pic is camp Meir, Rainier at 10,000 feet

19969
Our Pro-Military, Veteran, and Thin Blue Line place / Re: Chinooks
« on: December 08, 2016, 08:47:57 AM »
Canadian Chinooks. I like their paint scheme

19971
D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: December 07, 2016, 11:15:48 PM »
Had to help my mother put a pup of 14 years down today


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Oh NOOO

19972
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Re: Jeep CJ-66
« on: December 07, 2016, 11:14:04 PM »
You mean the one you rolled, that almost kilt all your buds? That one? :)
Didn't kill anybody!

But, yes, that one!

19973
Build Threads / Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« on: December 07, 2016, 11:13:19 PM »
I like those cans too. I see em on Ebay for around $100 each new, some used too.

I also have a 4 of the newer 20L "nato cans" that are OK and only $40 each.

I saw a guy selling them on Ebay in lots of 7 for a good price, maybe a group buy?????
Yea!

19974
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 07, 2016, 11:10:58 PM »
I got a few more donations.

Just glance over the donations topic and you'll see what we got and what is spent.

It's looking good my friends. I think we will definitely be able to close the loop on this one and make those girls and their daddy's very happy!

Any suggestions like Bobby had concerning this? I'd like to hear your opinions. I'll just ignore everything and go off and do whatever I want (I'm a Warrant Officer after all!)  ;) but to make you feel good about it, let's hear if there is something I should do or include!

If you had extra $$ I think Bobby's is right but if you have specific $$ to spend and if I was their Dad I would want it all to go to them. My gift would be their faces on Christmas morning.   :)
I took my bride out to dinner tonight. Tomorrow is our anniversary, but we both will be busy.

We were talking about the girls and Kath told me that one of the dads is not the girl's dad at all, but her Granddad!

Kath found out today, when she was asking Sadie what her dad might want for Christmas. Sadie said she didn't know her dad, and her mother left her when she was small. She said her granddad is the only father she had ever known.

Man this stuff just tears me up. That poor innocent little child. Why do some kids get a sorry deal like that?

Well, apparently the stories are worse than I knew before. This granddad is laboring in a warehouse, and just had his hours reduced! Obamacare related, pushing people to part time. Now he can't afford his rent. He can feed them or pay rent, but not both. Kath said she had one resident who has been secretly kicking in $300 a month to help with his rent which is $700 a month.

Now Bella's dad is her real dad, but he got laid off and all he could find was a car sales job. He gets to make a $600 draw every 2 weeks (You hearing this...$600 in two weeks!!!) if he sells his minimum number of cars. But he didn't and got no draw this time. Now the same person who secretly paid the extra $300 for Sadie's granddad, actually anty'd up and paid his entire rent! Anonymously!

Now that's a true act of sacrifice and kindness.

So anyone have any idea how I could make $1000 a month with this web site? I'd gladly and secretly donate every red cent to those families. I actually have something else in the works, and if it pans out then I can easily cover this indefinitely, and I will. I'm gonna lead from the front on this one. This just can't happen.

So back to Christmas. I'll get some fun stuff, but I think we need to go heavy on the Kroger/food gift card idea. Kath is taking them out shopping as a side thing next week, so we'll be able to figure out some more things and what they need.

19975
OK, copy that

I knew the Hook SIP, trained him myself, and was best man at his wedding!

Also knew one of the 64D boys, He shot up a lot of things with guns on them

19976
D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: December 07, 2016, 10:53:24 PM »
50 is special!

Happy Birthday my friend!

19977
Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: This is all very troubling...
« on: December 07, 2016, 10:50:03 PM »
Therapy for everyone would be the press and the Internet to shut down for two weeks to a month.  Everyone would have to actually SPEAK to each other face to face, find out that instant news isn't necessary for life to go on AND nobody really gives two craps that your crystalline structure might be "damaged" without instant validation or gratification!
Madness!

19978
Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: This is all very troubling...
« on: December 07, 2016, 10:49:03 PM »

Demanding you say?

They ever heard about the 82nd Airborne or the 3rd Marine division?

I believe they have heard of them in a few parts of Europe..  ;D
France is one place for certain!

19979
Well, instead of messing up the form (done that alot) just get cheap siding and glue it on. Bang you are done.

Save the oak for the inside of something nice, like the outhouse  8)
Norm got me to thinkin'

If idiots will pay $8 a board foot, I might like to help them do so!

19980
I'd defiantly test yr foam vs solvent ratio on a scrap piece. The visual of a swiss cheese skirting and such, funny as it may be.

Sell that barn board to city slickers for $8 a running foot. That's what I do...they love it. I once sold the wood off a old corn crib for $20k. AND they (city slickers) paid me to deliver it also. Then they bought the stone foundation as well... because barn parts are well...barn parts.

120 gallons?  I have a tank that size on my weed torch man. Wonder how long that will run said RV furnace? I am trying to remember how large the tank on our RV is...I know it will last 6 days of winter RV,ing.

What we do here for Sissy propane guys that wont take their trucks off road is we mount a 1000 gallon tank on wheels. Ya could do that with a smaller unit say 500 gallons. Drag it out, have him meet you someplace he can handle filling it, and then drag it back in.


 


Well about half way through the negotiations (Arguing) we had me to the point where they would give me 4-100lb bottles and when they got low, I'd throw them in the loader and drive out to the road and swap them out for new ones.

Now, frankly, I'm happily satisfied that everyone fears the road. No one ever comes to visit...

Anyway, I don't know what will work, but I do know I have to start somewhere, so if this is what they are willing to do, well, so be it. I'll run the furnace on a low setting, like 45 degrees and turn her up when I stop for a visit. At the moment I have that hot oil thing going on its lowest setting. Going down to 20's and teens next few days, and I plan to be down there to evaluate. Placing a recording thermometer in the craw space to get an idea whats going on there.

19981
General Vehicle Related Discussion / Jeep CJ-66
« on: December 07, 2016, 04:12:46 PM »
I posted this here because it is only a Jeep concept vehicle.

Taking from a CJ, TJ, and a JK (I think)

Whatever you call it, MAN, SIGN ME UP!

My first 4 X 4 was a Jeep CJ-7 which was exactly that color

19982
Black is the color that the mold that feeds off the yeast used in distillery bourbon! That's why the revenueors used to drive around looking for black mold on trees in the woods to locate illegal still! Black also adds heat for the aging of the bourbon in the barrels.   See I learned something
I finished off that bottle BTW

Burbon, cream, root-beer and ice

Time for another visit I'm thinking

19983
You people don't seem to be very upset!

Insensitive...

19984
Oh, and around here black would be the color of da barn

19985
Save that pristine Barnwood for inside! Use a tile trowel and spray down that pink board with mineral spirits and then trowel it to make it look like Barnwood texture. You can then paint it and make it look like your own Barnwood complete with actual texture - just need a little red and gray and light brown paint  and apply it with a Drybrush technique! Even warrant officer can do it!  :o
You really are an art teacher!

So, the mineral spirits does what? Dissolves some of the material? Doesn't like melt holes in it does it?

I think if I have any problem with the paint concept, it will be getting the paint to stay on the aluminum or Mylar tape

19986
That thing really hit home for me

Missing her first step, her first words.

I spent five years in Iraq and Afghanistan and I missed so so much. Man, I know what that girl is singing about. My boys recently told me how they would hear their mom crying at night...

Tougher on the families than us I'll bet

19987
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:07:45 PM »
How about giving each of the girls a gift card to Walmart (or similar) so they can use them to buy a gift for their parents? Just an idea.
Not Bad...(For a Tanker!) yea, I think we can do that. Be a small amount, say $25 each. Good idea!
Well, I is a ossifer! LOL!

And I'm Cav, which means I'm a little more gentile than most CDATs. LOL

;-))

19988
D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:07:05 PM »
Got a new toy today.....I've needed/wanted a generator for a long time. I dodged the bullets for years as we never lost power over the first 15 years we lived here (maybe 1x for 15 minutes). But then a few years ago left on a business trip and we had no power for a week....the entire week I was in SF. And um yeah it was February or something....cold as can be. The family spent the week in the FR while my son kept the fire burning.

Since then I have needed one. I first called Generac for a standby but the idjit never showed up for the appt. I called Generac and complained and they never called me back. While most times I would say screw them entirely, I find their price and quality compelling.

So I bought this one a week ago. I will be getting and electrician to wire in a plug for me to run the house. Until then if something were to happen I would run cords. But the bottom line is this should save my butt. Of course having bought it I am pretty much guaranteed not to lose power ha!

Anyway....this is the one I got:

 http://www.generac.com/all-products/generators/portable-generators/xg-series/xg8000e

An XG8000e....the e for electric start. It puts out 8000 kw with 10000 surge. Will run for 9.5 hours on a tank supposedly. I view it like fire insurance. Hope I don't need it but if I do, I will have it.

Got it from electricgeneratorsdirect.com good px, no tax, free shipping. Showed up today in a semi with liftgate. I uncrated it and added the oil, gas, and fired it up. Elec start is nice. ;)

You know, Costco is now carrying the big whole house, permanent installation units

19989
Ya, know, Norm, on that pink foam board, well, I got to looking at the stack of barn wood I have accumulated. That stuff is as solid as, well Oak! Not very rotten except on the edges. I have been cutting into it, and It may be hard and strong enough to make a B-52 main wing spar. Or at least a Constellation class frigate.
So, I was wondering what that camper might look like with the skirt and other pink places wrapped, tastefully, mind you, in old school barn wood???

Might work. Keep me from looking like the Jeffersons just moved in next to my shed

I think you should tongue and groove it in. It'd look nice an professional!  ;)
Hmmmm

19990
Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: Sharpton a terrorist??
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:04:23 PM »
I agree with cj7ox....he will do anything and say anything if it keeps him in "power". I agree that all of these calls for "protest" from him and his ilk (and sadly that includes the POTUS) are no different than yelling "fire" in a theater. Civil protest is one thing. These a-holes are inciting riots, property damage and violence. Truly disgusting.
Exactly Wil!

That's why I suggested that he may well be a terrorist

Edit: Self made terrorist

19991
Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: Sharpton a terrorist??
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:03:28 PM »
Sharpton only has two true causes, himself, and whatever lines his pockets. The man has no moral code, and is willing to do whatever it takes to keep himself in the limelight and put money in his hands. His sole motivator is greed.
A preacher who is going to hell!

19992
Don, this video show cases your boys in "Big Windy" in Kosovo around APR-JUN 2002.  all of these shots were in either Kosovo or Macedonia. 


I know.

Big Windy came down from Swabish hall then to some other place in the reorganization. Weren't they made part of the 12th Aviation Brigade??

19993
I started listening to Christmas music.

That got me to thinking about the guys we left.

Jody was like a son of mine. Way too young to be going into the 160th, but I trained him relentlessly, and, wouldn't you know it, he made it!

Then some time later, I had to bury him

He won't be home for Christmas...

19994
Coffee Induced Early Morning Rant / Re: This is all very troubling...
« on: December 07, 2016, 02:53:29 PM »
Now the EU demanding internet sensorship. If that isn't a direct attack on the first amendment I don't know what is.


Demanding you say?

They ever heard about the 82nd Airborne or the 3rd Marine division?

19995
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :) :) :) :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Made you sad as well!?

19996
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 07, 2016, 02:47:22 PM »
How about giving each of the girls a gift card to Walmart (or similar) so they can use them to buy a gift for their parents? Just an idea.
Not Bad...(For a Tanker!) yea, I think we can do that. Be a small amount, say $25 each. Good idea!

19997
Just my catching up here....

So far it's dog 4 Badgers zero... that dog is a special kind of determined. He's had to have a few stitches over the years, but he doesn't seem to care. He's like 14 years old or something so maybe he figures he has nothing to lose.

I tend to shoot heart/lung on larger game. It's just humane and simple I agree. That said I head shoot Coyotes...because they are "screamers" and die nosily at times when vitals shot. I just don't take shots I am not confident in taking. One shot to the back of the head they are down and dead. The area of vitals on a Yote isn't much larger than their head anyway. If required a follow up shot is always an option..at least where we hunt them.

Don that pink foam textures rather well with acetone LoL It gets that old 1800's concrete texture quickly.

Another thing you can use to light that fire that doesn't "explode" (less fun) is rubbing alcohol. It lights clean and simple and gets things going fast...if lighting "wetter" wood use lamp oil it will burn longer ...once yr flu is warm it will draw as you have discovered. And yes add a dampner...you will save lots of heat.

I just use mineral spirits from my parts washer LoL









Just getting back from being down there. Met the Propane guy, Mr. Jim. He was all sorts of apprehensive about coming back there. He said, "What if you run out of gas and the weather's bad, How do you expect me to make it back here?"

So, yea, he's uncomfortable with driving on that road too...Seems to be a universal complaint. As a result of all that, he gave in and is installing a 120 gallon tank this Friday. He figures that will get him through till summer, so he won't have to come back again during the less favorable months.

Ya, know, Norm, on that pink foam board, well, I got to looking at the stack of barn wood I have accumulated. That stuff is as solid as, well Oak! Not very rotten except on the edges. I have been cutting into it, and It may be hard and strong enough to make a B-52 main wing spar. Or at least a Constellation class frigate.
So, I was wondering what that camper might look like with the skirt and other pink places wrapped, tastefully, mind you, in old school barn wood???

Might work. Keep me from looking like the Jeffersons just moved in next to my shed

19998
Donations / Re: Our Christmas support
« on: December 07, 2016, 02:28:49 PM »
I got a few more donations.

Just glance over the donations topic and you'll see what we got and what is spent.

It's looking good my friends. I think we will definitely be able to close the loop on this one and make those girls and their daddy's very happy!

Any suggestions like Bobby had concerning this? I'd like to hear your opinions. I'll just ignore everything and go off and do whatever I want (I'm a Warrant Officer after all!)  ;) but to make you feel good about it, let's hear if there is something I should do or include!

19999
Firearms / Gun Control...The truth
« on: December 07, 2016, 02:23:53 PM »
My own moderators are going to beat me about the head and shoulders over posting this here...

Sorry guys...

Remember, God gave you grace and forgave you of your sins...Just sayin...




STATS and FACTS, not Propaganda, about Gun Control that Libs and PETAs refuse to Acknowledge....It's Government Control


 Man's mind is his basic tool of survival.  Life is given to him, survival is not. ... To remain alive he must act, and before he can act he must know the nature and purpose of his actions. ... To remain alive he must think."
Interesting Facts About Gun Control

There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed.  U.S. Population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016.

Do the math:  0.000000925% of the population die from gun related actions each year.  Statistically speaking, this is insignificant!

What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

*    65%  of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
*    15%  are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
*    17%  are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons - gun violence
*    3%  are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100.  Still too many?  Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
*    480 homicides (9.4%)  were in Chicago
*    344 homicides (6.7%)  were in Baltimore
*    333 homicides (6.5%)  were in Detroit
*    119 homicides (2.3%)  were in Washington D.C.  (a 54% increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities.  All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation  -  or about 75 deaths per state.  That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others.
For example, California had 1,169  -  and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far?  California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this.  It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states.  So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific?  How about in comparison to other deaths?  All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime.  Robbery, death, rape, assault  -  all are done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous.  That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
*  40,000+ die from a drug overdose - THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
*  36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
*  34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
*  200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors.    You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

*  710,000 people die per year from heart disease.  It's time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point?  If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.).  A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides  ......  Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns?  It's pretty simple.  Taking away guns gives control to governments.

The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies.  It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution.  It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster:  "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.  The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.    A military force at the command of Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power."

Remember, when it comes to "gun control", the important word is "control", not "gun".

Surprisingly, these are not the statistics you hear about from the media or from the White House...........ever wonder why??

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