Author Topic: 2010 F350 Extended Cab Cummins 24V Swap (Read 23738 times)

JR · « **Reply #450 on:** July 15, 2021, 03:53:44 PM »

Spinners that stick out 6 inches, you know the new look!

stlaser · « **Reply #451 on:** July 16, 2021, 09:45:08 AM »

So I did consider grinding calipers but it’s a lot…..

I’m looking at wheels and it’s a work truck. For the price of bling aluminum in 20’s I’d rather have some Detroit Steelies I think, American made to boot. Simple and strong, makes sense to me for this truck.

https://detroitsteelwheel.com/products/

Thinking set of smoothies in low gloss white powder.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #452 on:** July 16, 2021, 01:08:40 PM »

With your superb ability to spot deals on CL and FBMP I’d look for some used wheels

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stlaser · « **Reply #453 on:** July 16, 2021, 03:17:50 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on July 16, 2021, 01:08:40 PM

With your superb ability to spot deals on CL and FBMP I’d look for some used wheels

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Quit making sense Charles…….

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #454 on:** July 16, 2021, 04:16:45 PM »

LDNA

Logic does not apply

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JR · « **Reply #455 on:** July 16, 2021, 04:17:50 PM »

I need to use that around here!

KensAuto · « **Reply #456 on:** July 16, 2021, 08:42:32 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on July 16, 2021, 01:08:40 PM

With your superb ability to spot deals on CL and FBMP I’d look for some used wheels

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From what I hear, he does more than spot deals on CL.

JR · « **Reply #457 on:** July 16, 2021, 09:57:26 PM »

Try searchtempest, it searches a radius on all lists from your zip.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #458 on:** July 18, 2021, 10:06:24 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on July 16, 2021, 09:45:08 AM

So I did consider grinding calipers but it’s a lot…..

I’m looking at wheels and it’s a work truck. For the price of bling aluminum in 20’s I’d rather have some Detroit Steelies I think, American made to boot. Simple and strong, makes sense to me for this truck.

https://detroitsteelwheel.com/products/

Thinking set of smoothies in low gloss white powder.

Yea!
I totally like those and agree they would be a character match as well as a good serviceable wheel

Flyin6 · « **Reply #459 on:** July 18, 2021, 10:08:08 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on July 16, 2021, 04:16:45 PM

LDNA

Logic does not apply

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I like this

Makes sense

and

actin' Armee like

;-))

stlaser · « **Reply #460 on:** July 18, 2021, 11:16:14 AM »

So I may be picking up a set of center lines today in all black. Waiting on wheel width from guy selling them. I also spoke with Norm Friday and he mentioned John @ Stazworks making me a set. I’ve been emailing John back and forth but he acts extremely gun shy wanting to know axle widths and truck body width and all sorts of stuff I don’t need to provide. I gave him wheels specs and told him they all need to be the same. So we’ll see if my last short email reply results in a quote finally.

KensAuto · « **Reply #461 on:** July 18, 2021, 03:01:10 PM »

Can't go wrong with centerlines imo.
Should be stout enough.

stlaser · « **Reply #462 on:** July 18, 2021, 05:02:47 PM »

Charles was right, 4 used center line 20 x 10’s $100 each. Going to have them blasted and my buddies dad who is an auto body painter owes me a favor. Going to have them painted flat black. I can probably pick up a single wheel from a wrecked truck for an unmatched spare cheap from an axle core supplier.

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #463 on:** July 18, 2021, 05:08:08 PM »

I love it when I’m right with other people’s money…..

I like those..

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stlaser · « **Reply #464 on:** July 18, 2021, 05:40:10 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on July 18, 2021, 03:01:10 PM

Can't go wrong with centerlines imo.
Should be stout enough.

Nope these are heavy wheels, should be gtg in strength Dept

KensAuto · « **Reply #465 on:** July 18, 2021, 10:34:38 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on July 18, 2021, 05:08:08 PM

I love it when I’m right with other people’s money…..

I like those..

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I like those as well. Wanted to put those on my old truck back in the day but couldn't afford them at the time.

Also like the color as is

stlaser · « **Reply #466 on:** July 18, 2021, 10:58:54 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on July 18, 2021, 10:34:38 PM

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on July 18, 2021, 05:08:08 PM
I love it when I’m right with other people’s money…..

I like those..

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I like those as well. Wanted to put those on my old truck back in the day but couldn't afford them at the time.

Also like the color as is

Copy, rattle can and you can tell it wasn’t prepped very well. I have a couple axle housings going to blaster this week so these will tag along then put a nice paint job on them. Something that will last more than a month.

stlaser · « **Reply #467 on:** August 02, 2021, 01:14:51 PM »

Wheels came back from paint Saturday and I dropped them off this morning to get the Cooper SST’s 37x12.50R20’s mounted and balanced. Still need to pick up some black stainless hardware for the simulated beadlocks.

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #468 on:** August 02, 2021, 02:23:39 PM »

They look really good!

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stlaser · « **Reply #469 on:** August 02, 2021, 02:32:59 PM »

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stlaser · « **Reply #470 on:** August 02, 2021, 02:33:59 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on August 02, 2021, 02:23:39 PM

They look really good!

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Thank you, more than happy with my $400 wheels

JR · « **Reply #471 on:** August 02, 2021, 05:58:53 PM »

Nice price. Another reason I stay with 17in. Once you hit 18+ the wheels and tires go nuts!

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #472 on:** August 02, 2021, 09:10:52 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on August 02, 2021, 02:33:59 PM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on August 02, 2021, 02:23:39 PM
They look really good!

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Thank you, more than happy with my $400 wheels

Thank your local redneck for having faith in your proven process lol

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #473 on:** August 02, 2021, 09:54:26 PM »

Looks good Shawn.

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stlaser · « **Reply #474 on:** August 03, 2021, 11:48:49 AM »

Thanks guys & yes I agree Charles is a great sounding board very much appreciate his thoughts.

oh and his Texas hooch he’s shared with me

oklawall · « **Reply #475 on:** August 04, 2021, 10:25:40 AM »

They look great

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stlaser · « **Reply #476 on:** August 04, 2021, 11:55:40 PM »

Quote from: oklawall on August 04, 2021, 10:25:40 AM

They look great

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Thanks, no pics but new main rear leads were installed on the Alcan rear packs and then they were hung in place. Hoping to get the rear axle hung in next couple days.

stlaser · « **Reply #477 on:** August 10, 2021, 11:18:07 AM »

Little more slow progress

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stlaser · « **Reply #478 on:** August 10, 2021, 11:52:58 AM »

After a lot of wrangling back and forth with the built backwards Alcan Springs the rear axle is now centered up in the flat bed wheel well opening too.

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #479 on:** August 10, 2021, 12:03:38 PM »

Really clean.

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oklawall · « **Reply #480 on:** August 10, 2021, 02:15:07 PM »

Next thing you know you will be driving it after getting pulled to do stuff for the new shop or something else. But it looks good from here

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stlaser · « **Reply #481 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:14:11 PM »

Oklawall ya just jinxed me……

Apparently builder used a crank saver on that low mileage motor rebuild….. gunna have flywheel cut open to fit crank

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oklawall · « **Reply #482 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:55:22 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on August 10, 2021, 06:14:11 PM

Oklawall ya just jinxed me……

Apparently builder used a crank saver on that low mileage motor rebuild….. gunna have flywheel cut open to fit crank

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Man I'm so sorry. That stinks

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KensAuto · « **Reply #483 on:** August 10, 2021, 07:37:37 PM »

Don't be a baby. Trim it off

stlaser · « **Reply #484 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:01:36 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on August 10, 2021, 07:37:37 PM

Don't be a baby. Trim it off

That’s an idea, you thinking Dremel cut off wheels? Try to keep it cool? Not my normal scope of work Ken

rpar86 · « **Reply #485 on:** August 10, 2021, 10:39:02 PM »

In English for the noobs on here? Lip on the flywheel won’t fit over the crank?

stlaser · « **Reply #486 on:** August 10, 2021, 10:51:04 PM »

Quote from: rpar86 on August 10, 2021, 10:39:02 PM

In English for the noobs on here? Lip on the flywheel won’t fit over the crank?

There is a thin piece of metal riding around outside of crank (seal saver) where crank seal rides. That seal saver will not allow flex plate to bolt up. Ken’s solution was to trim that seal saver back to allow flex plate to bolt up to crank

JR · « **Reply #487 on:** August 10, 2021, 11:56:01 PM »

I bet the seal saver sleeve was not seated all the way. Since the lip is factory, they would have comped for that.

stlaser · « **Reply #488 on:** August 11, 2021, 09:11:08 AM »

Quote from: JR on August 10, 2021, 11:56:01 PM

I bet the seal saver sleeve was not seated all the way. Since the lip is factory, they would have comped for that.

I would agree, except I spoke with Ken last night and he’s trimmed these more than once. I assume he’s installed them too. So thinking that might not be case as some of these seal savers are generic in terms of size only and not application

stlaser · « **Reply #489 on:** August 11, 2021, 09:24:32 PM »

Trimmed, not a fun job. Glad I did it as that flex plate is a tight fit on the crank. ARP flex plate bolts getting the install in the morning. Ken gave the cut job two thumbs up and agreed it’s a Cummins so regardless the motor will leak, time will tell if from the crank seal area.

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oldkoot · « **Reply #490 on:** August 12, 2021, 12:06:55 PM »

you'll be fine fella.... I have trimmed dozens of those over the years. And Kens correct....it's a cummins, a little seepage is normal.

stlaser · « **Reply #491 on:** August 12, 2021, 04:56:00 PM »

Let me tell you the struggle was real and I’m glad that’s on. Had to cut the ARP flex bolts down .150 on lathe so that they wouldn’t bottom out in the crank. Yes, they are hard…..

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Sammconn · « **Reply #492 on:** August 12, 2021, 04:59:45 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on August 12, 2021, 04:56:00 PM

Let me tell you the struggle was real and I’m glad that’s on. Had to cut the ARP flex bolts down .150 on lathe so that they wouldn’t bottom out in the crank. Yes, they are hard…..

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I hope I have better luck.
Mine are awaiting reconstruction of the rest of the motor.
Looking good though.
My factory front and rear mains both have the same seal savers.
Need to figure out how to drive them.

stlaser · « **Reply #493 on:** August 12, 2021, 08:49:12 PM »

Quote from: Sammconn on August 12, 2021, 04:59:45 PM

Quote from: stlaser on August 12, 2021, 04:56:00 PM
Let me tell you the struggle was real and I’m glad that’s on. Had to cut the ARP flex bolts down .150 on lathe so that they wouldn’t bottom out in the crank. Yes, they are hard…..

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I hope I have better luck.
Mine are awaiting reconstruction of the rest of the motor.
Looking good though.
My factory front and rear mains both have the same seal savers.
Need to figure out how to drive them.

Good luck

Ken uses them maybe he’ll pop in with advice

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #494 on:** August 12, 2021, 11:49:45 PM »

I would imagine you heat them in the oven

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KensAuto · « **Reply #495 on:** August 13, 2021, 12:25:55 AM »

Well Sam, now a days they come with a handy installation cup and the sleeve has a lip on it (not sure if they all are that way). Take a big rubber mallet and tappy taptap, gentle like. They should come with the proper sealant as well. Some type of loctite.
The driving lip should peel off if necessary, once installed, if you can get to it (if the crank is out of the block).

stlaser · « **Reply #496 on:** August 23, 2021, 08:33:54 PM »

Not a lot of progress to show at the moment. I worked on a spacer this weekend for the rear axle backing plates. I converted the front F550 Dana 60 axle to 8 on 170 if you recall due to ease / selection of wheels. So that axle is 3” overall wider up front. In the rear I didn’t believe that Sterling was up to the task of putting power to the ground very long. Plus I needed a wider axle. I happened to have an 05+ Dana 80 from an F350 Dually however the hubs were 8 on like 200 pattern. I then had a set of donor hubs from a 99-04 Dana 80 F350 Dually. After comparing spindles the one issue I had was that hub and rotor on 05+ was right at .500 wider than the 99-04 unit. I needed to use the brakes from the 99-04 to get a working e-brake. To do this the backing flange needed moved outboard a 1/2” from the axle tube end flange. So below is my work to make a pattern. Last picture were a couple slight revisions I made to CAD file before sending it out to be cut from 1/2” plate.

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stlaser · « **Reply #497 on:** October 10, 2021, 08:22:22 PM »

Since Tate & Randy’s is slacking on the HD Yukon lockouts for the 05+ Superduty axle I went the only other direction available to upgrade them. In the upper right hand corner of the first picture are 300m RCV inserts for the oem lockouts.

Below is a pictorial of how you disassemble and install them. I do believe this is the only “write up” for these parts on the internet as I couldn’t find them on the rcv site or on any searches I tried. I had three lockouts to start the process. One was pretty roached out and partially broken. One was in really good shape a d another I thought was in good shape but ended up being broken and missing parts once I opened it up. I was able to end up with two good upgraded units at the end.

The orings with these were stretched so I ordered new ones and I do not recommend using the gasket but a small bead of rtv when installing them along with a liberal amount of marine grease coating the internals. A common issue with these is water getting inside and locking them up.

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #498 on:** October 11, 2021, 07:34:01 AM »

Never actually seen the inside of a locking hub before, what’s diffrnt with a waren brand?

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stlaser · « **Reply #499 on:** October 11, 2021, 08:47:04 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on October 11, 2021, 07:34:01 AM

Never actually seen the inside of a locking hub before, what’s diffrnt with a waren brand?

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Idk, I refuse to spend money on those lockouts. It’s been rumored they make the oem ones for ford though. I seriously doubt the internal is made from 300m though so to me this seemed like a better option.