REAL MAN TRUCKWORKS & SURVIVAL
VEHICLES, CAMPERS, and BOATS => Everything Trailer, Camper, or RV related => Topic started by: Nate on June 26, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
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I came across this and was wondering what opinions folks have about it. ken, RN, bob, whoever else has a fifth wheel????
http://www.automatedsafetyhitch.com/
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it would seem to me that this thing would basically take all weight off the rear axle of the truck and allow the pulling vehicle to pull a heck of a lot more than it could normally (think Toyota pulling the space shuttle because this is basically the same concept).......?
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Quite the intreaging concept Nate- where'd you run across it? Allows the best of both worlds- tow a fifth wheel but still have a truck with a cap! Really like the recovery cable set up!
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Uhh, no thanks. I can barely back up the setup I have. lol
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I'd pass, my truck's long enough and I don't need 2 extra tires to worry about. Plus the auto disconnect takes about the same time it would take to unhitch my gooseneck.
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I kind of like it.
What I am seeing here would allow me to tow a 5th wheel trailer while having my topper and spare tire carrier intact, then just drop the whole business when I'm done
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Nate,
I think you discovered something interesting here.
I just sent them a note with a proposal. I suggested they loan us one of those hitches for all of us to evaluate.
Now no telling if they will be interested, however, here's my concept of how this would go down. Their company is in Sanger, TX. I would ask you or Charles, or Ash to drive over and pick it up and use it for awhile. Then write up what you discover about it while posting pics. I'd like to see the thing handed off to Ken, JR, Me, Mike, Bob, and whoever else wanted to try it out.
Each in turn uses it to pull their particular load with their truck. Perhaps when it is near the end of the "Loan" period one of us, maybe me, could purchase it if one of us really felt it helped towing his load.
So, message was sent, with a link back to here, so they can see what I propose. We'll wait and see.
In the meanwhile, considering Sanger, Texas, and the fact that Texas is roughly the size of, well, the Pacific ocean, who would be interested in using it first...second?
You can volunteer here or PM me. First dibs goes to the moderators here, then the registered members then dogs, then cats, then finally Liberals!
Let me know
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wow, ok.
I would be more than glad to do a test run per-say on this piece of equipment, only draw back is I have no access to a 5th wheel or goose neck trailer. if this goes thru I will have to get a hold of some contacts down here and get this going.
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I think sanger is pretty close to where RN has his place...........?
if not, DBOONETX lives close enough he might be able to assist.
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I don't have a 5th wheel, but I have wanted one. But since all my trucks have a topper of some sort, I gave up on the idea until this came along.
No telling if the company would be willing to participate, but if they did, I would want to get in the queue somewhere along the line.
We'd just have to figure out the smart way to get it around the country. It would likely start in the Texas, then I imagine migrate to CA, then Washington, then over to Wyoming, the maybe down to Norm in Nebraska, then over to Wisconsin, then Chicago, then Kentucky, then over to the east coast
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Great idea Don, I could try it out with my fathers enclosed race trailer, moving van; load-up a bunch of Dems and drop them off in Southern Illinois, haul some over to Caliber in Southwestern MO, and finally drop the last group off near Loretta, KY........it's barrel rotation season over at Makers Mark and I could task them with finding that barrel that literally has my name on it! They could learn to work, help clear brush for Caliber then when he's gotten them trained, he can haul em over to the Farm!
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I've seen it before. Couple of observations.
Would allow use of the pickup bed
Would allow use of a topper or cap
Would be able to order with provisions for a lifted truck.
Cons:
More tires
More complex
Adds length of about 6-8 feet which would put me close to CDL territory since my 42ft 5er plus my CCLB dually about 58 feet, I believe Texas is 65ft max
Having said that, yes, Texas is a big place. Nearly 800 miles from East to West. Sanger is north of the Big D which is about 400 miles from here. Be happy to test it and provide nice detail evaluation. I fancy myself quite the expert at putting that moose of a 5er in really tight spots. Would be curious to see how this impacts manuverability.
Anyone seen an estimate of price?
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Google says about 11-12K loaded out.
Wow. Could almost get a used LBZ dually for that and have just a dedicated rig....
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Google says about 11-12K loaded out.
Holy cow, that seems pretty steep.
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Yikes....must be 1200 or 1500...no? Man you could get a couple big-truck style dollies for 12k
...or a few used ones:
http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=5954151
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Safety Hitch update
I got a response back from the folks that manufacture the safety hitch. The inventor and company owner wants to talk to me about my proposal.
Again, my idea is to obtain the thing, maybe RN first then move it about the country where everyone gets to test it so we can get a good evaluation of the hitch. I will likely be the last one to test it, then Real Man will purchase it or we will give it back. All along the way those who have it will be expected to use it however you normally tow your trailers.
If this works out, I really want Ash to get the thing and have him evaluate it with some of the loads he is carrying.
So, how many folks have 5th wheel type trailers they would be willing to tote around with this safety hitch equipment.
PM me if you don't mind.
I have shared this link with the manufacturer so they can read your comments and know your feelings/concerns as well.
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very interesting, hopefully you will have a good conversation with the owner. I would be more than glad to offer my opinion, but I do not own a 5th wheel / gooseneck trailer.
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I have seen those at shows a couple times and think the idea is OK if you want a 5th with say a Sub or covered bed truck like many of us. I don't have a 5th so I didn't really didn't look into it much. I bet much of that cost is insurance as there can't be more than a few grand of material there.
As for safety and use, it has worked on doubles, triples and other HD rigs for years.
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I have seen those at shows a couple times and think the idea is OK if you want a 5th with say a Sub or covered bed truck like many of us. I don't have a 5th so I didn't really didn't look into it much. I bet much of that cost is insurance as there can't be more than a few grand of material there.
As for safety and use, it has worked on doubles, triples and other HD rigs for years.
JR, you hit the nail on the head there. I want my truck box for stuff not a hitch.
So this theory has limited me RV'ing to travel trailers.
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Oh oh oh, it just hit me. 2015 dura burb and a fifth wheel.....
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Or a 7.3 powerstroke excursion to go oldschool
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You can completely bypass my area. I don't even have a hitch on XJ, much less a trailer to hook up to. However, I did go look at a 96 F350 with a 5sp manual and the 7.3
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Before the Automated Safety Hitch (ASH), there was the Hitch Buddy, Trailer Toad, and others I'm sure. All resemble the semi truck dollies mentioned previously, but the ASH has three attachment points and requires a custom hitch. It won't be easy to swap it amongst your trucks.
Hitch-buddy.com appears to be dead - I read something about them going out of business due to legal problems, possibly an accident?
There looks to be a lot of debate on whether some of these things are legal and/or safe. It certainly seems like a elegant solution to a specific problem (Excursion to haul family, trucks with toppers, etc).
Any update from the manufacturer Don?
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I have an invite to talk to the owner...I read up some on the product, but no response from them yet...??? Forgot about it perhaps?