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VEHICLES, CAMPERS, BOATS, and COMMUNICATIONS => Everything Trailer, Camper, or RV related => Topic started by: Farmer Jon on January 30, 2018, 07:37:00 AM

Title: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on January 30, 2018, 07:37:00 AM
I didn't know If I should put this in the build thread or with the campers. Being its going to be pulling a camper i put it here.

This is an 03 Freightliner with 435 hp 60 series Detroit, 10 speed, 3:55 gears with full locker. 260 inch wheel base. A little longer than what I wanted but the hard work is all done. Everything on the rear end is new. From the locker to the bakes, brake cans, shocks, track bar the works. New drive line, carrier bearing U joints etc. I tried to nit pick it but I couldn't find anything wrong. 1.3 million on it. Never been overhauled but they pulled the pan and did the rods and mains. Everything around the engine is new or newer. Alternator and turbo are newer. Needs a right side windshield. That about the only thing I could find wrong. 2 100 gallon fuel tanks. The former owner said he got 7 mpg with it pulling a semi trailer. I should get a little more than that. I should be able to go a 1000 miles easy with fuel to spare.

First things first I have to get it registered as a Motor home. Ive talked to other guys in Nebraska. One guy had to go full out and put in fridge, microwave, sink and some other stuff before they would change the title. The other guy said he just went to the DMV and told them he needed the title changed. They did it no questions asked. I am going to try that approach. If I have to I'm just going to mount a pickup box camper on the back temporally to get past the plating. Once its plated its a done deal. As long as I never ever use it for commercial. It will be recreational use only or they can pull my plate.

I have an 8 foot flat bed to install. Off of a Chevy dually pickup. That will come to just in front of the fenders. I think. Have more measuring to do. Right now everything is stuck in a snow bank. If its not in the snow its frozen to the ground.

Right now I am in full debate with myself over what hitch to install. Its like a multiple choice quiz. A. B. or C. I know C is wrong and A and B are both right. But which one is MORE right.

The trailer saver hitch rides on air. Low profile.
http://www.trailersaver.com/product/tslb2h-air-ride-hitch/

    32,000 lb. Gross Trailer Weight
    5,000 lb. Pin Weight with optional 3rd air-bag for a 7,500 lb. pin weight
    Fits Standard Bolt Hole patterns in medium duty trucks
    Available rail adapter kit
    Heavy Duty 4-way pivoting hitch head with safety lock
    Available Goose-Neck Adapter
    Shipped Direct (or to shipping facility near you) Fully Assembled
    3 Year Limited Warranty
    30 Day Money Back Guarantee

Then we have the  comfort ride. No air needed. It rides on these plastic cells.

http://www.comfortridehitch.com/hi_model_308_hd.html

   Tunable for any Weight Trailer up to 30K with Height Adjustments from 12" to 19"

   Only Weighs 290 lbs

   30,000 lbs Towing Capacity

   8,000 lbs Pin Capacity

   Operating Height: 11.5"-19" Adjustable


They are very similar in price and weight rating. They both bolt flat so they are easy to install. I'm not crazy about the air ride because air bags eventually blow. But they have a goose neck ball adapter.

Comfort does not have a ball adapter. How often am I going to pull the goose neck? I don't know. But I want the adapter. So before too long I'm just going to flip a coin and order a hitch.

Some day I would like to move the rear end ahead and install a western hauler type bed to haul a jeep on. I have to raise my kids first and I have to pay for all this....Baby steps.
   



Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on January 30, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
Dang those are pricey. Why couldn't you use a conventional p/u hitch?
Not trying to sound negative, just wondering if you plan on hauling 30k some day.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 30, 2018, 10:36:45 AM
 I just want to see a snowy drift around a corner in this!! That back end looks so far out there! 


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on January 30, 2018, 07:38:30 PM
Dang those are pricey. Why couldn't you use a conventional p/u hitch?
Not trying to sound negative, just wondering if you plan on hauling 30k some day.
The bigger hitches bolt down flat and are lower profile.  The medium size ones hook to rails. They are only a few hundred bucks cheaper. I dont know if I will ever tow 30,000 pounds but the guys I talked to have trailers that weigh around 20k. They said why max out the smaller hitch when you can get the bigger one and not worry about it. My philosophy is there is no overkill when towing. My camper only weighs 10,000 pounds. I want plenty of room to upgrade.

I fully intended on putting a gooseneck hitch in and using the same B&W companion I use in my pickup. But. According to most of the people I talked to the suspension is so stiff on the trucks that it will tear the trailer up.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on January 30, 2018, 09:40:40 PM
That makes sense.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 04, 2018, 12:28:56 PM
Got everything dug out of the snow and in the shop. According to my mock up measurements the truck going to be 3 Inches too high. I have the camper where I want it going down the road. There is 9 inches from the frame to pinbox. Hitch is 12 inches tall. I think i can make it up by raising the pin box. I need to get the hitch installed before I have any real hard numbers. However I am banned from the shop until further notice because my son has the Flu.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180204/a980e2ea3956aa135dffa2bced165c33.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 05, 2018, 11:56:12 AM
FJ, what size shop is that you have?
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: kampfitt on February 05, 2018, 12:46:28 PM
Are the springs on top of the axle on your 5th wheel? That would give you the space you need or do a 3" lift camper, would also help going in and out of rougher camping spots,
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 05, 2018, 01:34:42 PM
Are the springs on top of the axle on your 5th wheel? That would give you the space you need or do a 3" lift camper, would also help going in and out of rougher camping spots,
Flipping the axles is another option. I have to do the bearings anyway so it wouldn't take much more to pull the axles.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 05, 2018, 01:44:07 PM
FJ, what size shop is that you have?
It a 20 ft tall morton building on a 4 ft concrete stem wall. I believe it is 81x83. Morton has odd sizes. It has a 24 ft tall ceiling. In floor heat. The big door is a higher power aircraft door. 42 wide by 23 tall. Two of the roll up doors are 16x20 and one 22x20
The John Deere dealer in town built their set up shop with a 24 ft ceiling per Deere specs. We followed their lead.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: BobbyB on February 05, 2018, 07:43:59 PM
For some reason I thought you were going to be building the camper on the back end of the tractor. I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Flyin6 on February 05, 2018, 08:53:58 PM
For some reason I thought you were going to be building the camper on the back end of the tractor. I have no idea why.
Bobby, that's what I thought as well.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: dave945 on February 05, 2018, 10:09:48 PM
I think he tentatively planned on dropping a truck camper on it if necessary to get it titled as an RV guess that?s not in the plans any more.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 07, 2018, 01:33:29 PM
I didnt need to do that. I got titled as a motor home. I just have to put in a porta potty, fridge and microwave. Install a power inverter. Then I want to add a tv and dvd player. Seating with seatbelts in the sleeper for the kids will come also.

Got the hitch and porta potty ordered. Should be here end of the week.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on February 07, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
That setup would be really nice if you could haul a Jeep on the deck & still pull the trailer.....
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on February 08, 2018, 10:20:57 AM

That setup would be really nice if you could haul a Jeep on the deck & still pull the trailer.....


Like this happy camper

Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 09, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
All kinds of stuff came in today. Got the 5th wheel, the 3/4 inch plate,  my porta potty arrived and the Insurance man came over to check everything over.

I opted for the  comfort ride 245. 24,000 lbs capacity 5,000 lb pin weight. Way more than I need right now. I have room to upgrade.

The angle irons with all the holes in them on the outside of the frame rails is what the commercial 5th wheel bolted to. I had to slide them back. Can use most of the factory bolt holes but will have to drill a few out. Then the plate is bolted to that you and the 5th wheel to the plate.

1/2 inch plate would have worked but the hitch manufacturer said it will bow with the big trailers so I went with 3/4.

This 1500 watt inverter has just been sitting on the shelf for years.  Before we got the service we use to keep it in the pickup to run electric tools. I would like a bigger one but this is big enough to run a fridge and small microwave. 
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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 09, 2018, 10:12:27 PM
Ooooh. Exciting stuff. Love it when parts start showing up


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Mrwoody on February 09, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
FJ,
Do you or anybody else have any experience with the Harbor Freight inverters?
I'm needing a new unit for my work truck to run an overhead AC unit and was wondering about quality.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on February 09, 2018, 11:01:43 PM
Now that's a sheet of steel!

Woody, I put one in my fifth wheel and it still works if that means anything. Only used it a few times though.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on February 10, 2018, 12:23:35 AM
With that long WB you can have a nice carry area back there like for the quad in the other pic.

With the long WB and the airbags you shouldn't tear up the trailer. Plus aren't diff grades of bags for a softer ride or air pressure?
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 10, 2018, 07:24:02 AM
With that long WB you can have a nice carry area back there like for the quad in the other pic.

With the long WB and the airbags you shouldn't tear up the trailer. Plus aren't diff grades of bags for a softer ride or air pressure?

Air bags are all the same as far as I know. You can adjust the ride height somewhat. But it will always have the same air pressure for the load. Heaver load will be higher pressure so keep the ride height. The Hitch I bought has rubber cells in it to take the shock away. Ive never seen one in person and I never seen a video of how it works. I'm just going off others recommendations. Total leap of faith.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 10, 2018, 07:31:07 AM
FJ,
Do you or anybody else have any experience with the Harbor Freight inverters?
I'm needing a new unit for my work truck to run an overhead AC unit and was wondering about quality.
I dont know anything about them. If I were going to run an A/C unit I would look into small generator maybe. Just so you don't kill your batteries. A/C unit would pull a lot of juice I think.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 10, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
JR generally the bigger diameter bag the softer they ride. Just don?t know if they make, or how hard it would be to fab, different bags and brackets.




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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on February 10, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
Not much to the brackets, i?ve fab?ed several sets over the years. Guessing you could call one of the bag manufacturers to order whatever fits the bill bag wise
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on February 10, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
I have replaced many when I did that stuff. There are several diff types, some must ride better. Sure a regulator could lower pressure vs the adjuster that keeps the height.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 11, 2018, 07:12:08 AM
When I get the hitch on and hook up the trailer we will know better where I need to be.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 12, 2018, 08:55:08 PM
Got a little bit done in the past couple days. Mag drill is my new buddy. Mounting brackets in place and plate mocked up. Holes marked. Now i get to flip it over and start drilling. 14 holes to mount the plate to the truck then 12 holes to mount the hitch to the plate.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180213/00e7d40f036816d1a7c2585844c9ac21.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180213/cf1484b4ce8783e660cb8bce45153222.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on February 12, 2018, 11:48:04 PM
What brand is the drill? Always wanted one even at the shop we rented one a few times just never had enough jobs to substantiate the investment. Everytime I see one at an auction they go for new price too.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 13, 2018, 06:43:40 AM
It a Evolution. It a cheaper brand but works well. The shorter the extension cord the better. Use plenty of cutting fluid. The one I have is similar to this one in the link but the older model. Its been around here for 10 years I bet and probably only used it 5 times. But it has paid for its self.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/322874819010



Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on February 13, 2018, 09:47:30 AM
I thought they would cost more than that, we never used one but should have. A few of our gliders were alum framed so no good there anyway.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 14, 2018, 07:51:32 AM
There are a few brands that are over $1,000. This one works just fine. I suppose if you drilled a 100 holes a day you would want a better one.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 17, 2018, 07:56:35 AM
Got it all hooked up and she rides 3 inches high. The decision to flip the axles has been made. That will raise the camper up 3-4 inches.

I got the fenders back on. All that's left is wiring the lights and trailer plug. I do want to put some kind of receiver hitch on the back. I heard through the grape vine that a few trucks with motor home plates were getting tickets for having no rear bumper. Then I had a brain storm. We took a bumper off one of our old straight trucks. It just has a hole for a drop pin. I do believe that will work.

I don't know if its just me but I woke up this morning and had the gut feeling that some safety chains would not be a bad idea. From the 5th wheel to the plate. It is bolted down with 12 1/2 inch grade 8 bolts. I doubt its going anywhere.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: kampfitt on February 17, 2018, 12:13:58 PM
Nice job. Looks like lots of room left for a side by side up front of the hitch!! :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on February 17, 2018, 12:47:25 PM
Time for a bigger 5th.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bob/OlallaWa on February 17, 2018, 01:10:50 PM

Time for a bigger 5th.


Yes indeed, brand new state of art 5th wheel with four slides and a new rig sitting on the flatbed behind the cab. You won't feel so bad when it is time to pay at  the fuel stops. Nice to have all the room for fuel, right up to the time you have to pay for it.


Nice set up as long as you have room to maneuver, doing a nice job setting it up. You should never have to worry about pin weight of a trailer either.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on February 17, 2018, 03:25:12 PM
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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 27, 2018, 06:38:02 AM
Got the lights and everything wired and took it for a test ride today. Can't hardly tell it has a trailer at all. Don't back up too bad either. Now I have to finish the flat bed and interior.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 27, 2018, 07:49:58 AM
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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on February 27, 2018, 10:07:17 AM
BIGGER!!
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on February 27, 2018, 12:49:44 PM
Nice job Jon!! that truck makes the trailer look like a play toy.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 27, 2018, 01:32:01 PM
What?s your total length?


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on February 27, 2018, 08:34:34 PM
Just a few inches shy of 60 ft.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 28, 2018, 02:13:55 AM
That?s a good long load to pull into a Walmart p lot!!


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Sammconn on February 28, 2018, 08:54:23 AM
No doubt in my mind that truck won't even know the trailer is there.
Good job. Looks like a winner. Ow to deck over the frame in front!
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 02, 2018, 01:48:44 PM
Got my flat bed and took boxes. If they look like they all came out of a junk yard that's because they did. They look worse than they are. A little welding, polish and paint they will be real nice. One  boxes will house a generator. I bough ta a 4.0 bfa onan generator from the small engine guy in town. Came out of a bus. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180302/c70a0f318174b4cb79b9d5ad08cd545b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180302/6029d1dbc1b9e980e675298f71d28f9d.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on March 02, 2018, 04:17:03 PM
Nice finds. Hope they don't kill you prices like here in Ca.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 02, 2018, 08:54:23 PM
300 apiece for the boxes. The flat bed is actually my dads but he did get it out of a junk yard. We have one of those deals where I can use it as long as I want but dont forget its his.
I mocked up one of the boxes. This one is going to house the generator. Need to beef up the floor and cut appropriate holes for ventilation and the exhaust pipe. I am afraid its going rattle but should work out.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180303/c4d14883ad0dec9f8db88f706dcf35f1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180303/16bfa2bd535cd2376a3844bdee5446be.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 06, 2018, 08:50:12 PM
We had some bad weather the past couple days so I got a lot done. With the help of my brother and our new hired man. Got the tool boxes and flatbed on. This one has extra bracing because that box is where the generator is going. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180307/bde1b0a625d7c71aae691a03cdc684a2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180307/29d96c93a19587af67befd561c407547.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on March 06, 2018, 10:53:51 PM
Nice work
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 07, 2018, 07:41:22 AM
Looking good! Any pics of the bed from behind?


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 08, 2018, 06:18:54 AM
It looks crooked but its not. I dont know whats going on there. But where the tail lights were I'm thinking clear LED lights for back up lights. That or block them off. I have some aluminum diamond plate I might use to cover the back. Cut to size and a few self tapping screws will dress that up nicely.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180308/1ede7dd59508ae133fa6dd4018e82e26.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 08, 2018, 07:34:47 AM
Looks good. Some backup or auxiliary lights there would help at night when unhooking or hooking up. Shines right on the hitch


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Atkinsmatt on March 08, 2018, 08:49:38 AM
Great work.  I vote lights as well.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on March 08, 2018, 08:57:13 AM
Agreed, lights back there would be handy. I would put a switch back there to turn on & off because I would forget to turn it on in cab prior to going back there.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 08, 2018, 03:27:24 PM
Might even wire a three way so either on or off from in cab or out. Kinda like a three way in the house.


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 09, 2018, 07:10:43 AM
There is a LED work light on the side of the cab already. The fuel tank for the generator I got has lights built in. Plus the ones in the bed. I will have more light going backward than forward!

I got a lot done this week. I should say we. If I did not have help from my brother and a friend I wouldn't even have the bed on yet. My nephew didn't have school so he dove in with us. And My boss for letting my charge parts to him. We will figure out the bill later.

The John Deere fuel tank I just bought on an online auction. Holds 80 gallons. Meant to be mounted on the front of a tractor. Has all mounting brackets. Will have to modify some but its going on the bed. front and center.

Got the generator mounted. I put rubber strips between every piece of metal that is bolted together. I have one vent hole to cut yet. I will probably end up taking it to a muffler shop to run the exhaust. Last time I tried to make custom exhaust at home I had to make 10 trips to town.

Gutted out the interior of the sleeper. Insulation is going down on the floor then some 1/4 inch underlay and then peel and stick carpet squares.  I haven't found the right seats yet. I found some that will work but they are not exactly what I want.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 09, 2018, 07:17:37 AM
We found out real quick that they used steel rivets to hold everything together. Drilling didn't work. We had to grind off the heads of all the rivets. It was a hot messy job. I am glad my nephew showed up. Everything was tied into everything else. I don't thing I took away from the structural integrity at all. It seemed to me it was designed to keep the person in the bed in case of of a rollover accident. There was a net that the passenger should use when team driving.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 09, 2018, 07:33:34 AM
That thing is a palace!
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 09, 2018, 07:41:36 AM
Its getting there. I don't know how I am going to attach the seats yet. The floor is thin aluminum. I will have to beef it up. If you look at the picture above there are 3 black dots on the back wall. That is where the bunk net was bolted to. What ever I do with seats they will be secured to that also for extra support. Maybe with chain or I will make something and bolt it solid to it. I don't know. That is yet to come. I cant work on it much in the next couple weeks so I have time to ponder.

I want to be able to pull in someplace and stay for a few days self contained. I have ideas for extra water tanks. I know I can go a good week before my waste tanks get full. That is even with a few short showers.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 09, 2018, 07:58:04 AM
Great progress!
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on March 09, 2018, 12:26:23 PM
All that room up front and passengers can ride in the trailer too!

Nice progress.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on March 09, 2018, 02:04:34 PM
I was trying to figure out what you meant when you said "lights built in to the fuel tank". Now I see.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on March 09, 2018, 04:39:03 PM
Nice! :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 17, 2018, 06:04:50 PM
Worked on the interior today. Carpet is not glued down yet. Just laid out to see if I like it or not. Once the floor is done then I can get the fridge and microwave installed. I really need to find an upholstery cleaner. These walls and seats are filthy. When its all done I may have to take it to a detail shop.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/02f64959c443e2fec4437230af76fdc3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180317/403a396d8eb5dc04beac9f499b2611e3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Nate on March 17, 2018, 06:42:46 PM
jon, this may be of interest to you:  http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/how-tos-diy-write-ups/967970-2017-silverado-hd-large-inverter-3kw-install.html#post11890378
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 24, 2018, 07:38:12 AM
Got my seats prepped and ready to go in the sleeper. They came out of a 2000 Chevy pickup. They sit low on a flat floor so I had to raise them up a little bit. I used 5x5x1/4 square tube. Its over kill but I didn't want to use wood blocks. I just need one more seat.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 25, 2018, 06:06:23 PM
 Trying to get everything organized. There will be 3 seats. Granted the far right one will be tight and have part of their view lost. The smallest person will have to sit there. Most of the time we will only have 2 kids along so not an issue. Its not as bad as it looks in the picture. I am 6 ft tall I can sit there pretty comfortably and still see out the windshield.

Where the boxes are stacked is where the cabinet will be. Port-a-pot on bottom. Then fridge and microwave. I don't plan on ever using the Port-a-pot  but I need it in there to meet the requirements of a Motor home. 
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on March 25, 2018, 06:09:49 PM
Your requirements must be diff. than ours. I think we just need a sink and fridge. A portable potty is still easier than sink though!   
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on March 26, 2018, 01:53:01 PM
These are the requirements. Only need four of the requirements. Some state you need all of them. You can get a porta potty with attached sink. Kills 2 birds with one stone  but it takes up more room. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180326/0ac25d549526b12c626583a6b19c8175.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on March 26, 2018, 09:12:42 PM
By mounting my shell to the truck, it is now not considered a pickup anymore. Saves me over $$200 a year reg, not supposed to tow or put things in the back either, right,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on March 26, 2018, 09:18:07 PM
By mounting my shell to the truck, it is now not considered a pickup anymore. Saves me over $$200 a year reg, not supposed to tow or put things in the back either, right,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Is that just for HD models?
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on March 27, 2018, 03:43:52 AM
Any pickup, paperwork is easy. They consider it a car now. 
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on March 27, 2018, 08:39:18 AM
Has me wondering if hippy land is the same?
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bear9350 on March 27, 2018, 08:57:22 AM
I'm pretty sure in WI it has to deal with the percentage of cargo hauling area vs passenger area.  Cap or not, there are no seats with seat belts back there so it is cargo hauling area.  Then again I only pay a total of $120 for my C class truck plates.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on March 27, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
I'm pretty sure in WI it has to deal with the percentage of cargo hauling area vs passenger area.  Cap or not, there are no seats with seat belts back there so it is cargo hauling area.  Then again I only pay a total of $120 for my C class truck plates.

Back in Indiana the big jump was from 3/4 ton to 1 ton in terms of cost. 1/2 & 3/4 we?re reasonable then when you went to 1 ton they figured you were hauling 45K around all the time.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 27, 2018, 11:25:08 AM
Any pickup, paperwork is easy. They consider it a car now. 

Sounds like liberal logic. Just like " hey we passed gun control laws, problem over"
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 04, 2018, 01:16:25 PM
Got the seats in. Cross that off to do list. A carpenter friend of mine has a real good start on the cabnet for the fridge and microwave.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180404/1cce8b8772ffd3e82da6fab5042c84fb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 08, 2018, 03:56:25 PM
Got a lot done this weekend. Did a little wood work in the cab where the bed was. Finished up the cabinet for the fridge and microwave. It is stained and clear coated. Ready to go in tomorrow when I have some help. Mounted and wired up 2 new back up lights on the fairings. No pictures yet. The camera on my phone quit working.   Mounted and plumbed the fuel tank for the generator. I still need to come up with a battery box. Then I am just going to take it to a muffler shop to do the exhaust. I don't have a pipe bender. Last time I did exhaust myself I had to make 5 trips to town.  After that off to the electrician to wire up the cab and put some outlets out side on the bed along with a 30amp camper plug. I don't get along with wires all that well. I can handle some small stuff but I want this wired up right.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on April 08, 2018, 04:01:21 PM
Heck, I don't even have a regular camera anymore (kids broke em all too) Plus DL to the PC is so easy.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 14, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
Got a new phone so here are pics of what got done this week.

Generator is all done at far as I will go. I take it in to a muffler shop next week. Then to the electrician. Fuel tank is bolted in through the channel iron under the bed. Made use of the factory mounts and made brackets on the headache rack. This thing is going no where.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/a557c94153b6584e31b0cbb6b41110fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/58a689b5da7f08c6536018a47178318b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/0a74194e883dd318556ae5a45f95dce9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 14, 2018, 07:29:34 AM
Got the lights all wired up. On top of the cab on either side are John Deere tractor head lights. They are really bright. I have to see if I can replace the ones in the tank with LED. That is an 80 gallon fuel tank. That should last a while.
Got the cabinet in for fridge and microwave. Should have that along with the inverter installed today.
The end seat is a little tight but it's not horrible.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/7c0e93e7ae3fa84f97132f56196ccc1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/e78f80d7d09ba9bd80c88b0ef51fe0f9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 14, 2018, 09:22:50 AM
As nice as that will be I?m not sure you need the 5thwheel. You could add a bunk house on back and call it good!


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on April 14, 2018, 09:52:57 AM
Looking good  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 14, 2018, 11:44:57 AM
As nice as that will be I?m not sure you need the 5thwheel. You could add a bunk house on back and call it good!


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I think I will put hooks for a Hammok in there. Just in case.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 14, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Got everything in. I will not get the Inverter wired up today. I have the wrong size wire and we are having a Blizzard today.

I used the factory TV hold down strap on the microwave. Then I made brackets to hold the fridge in. Similar to what they use in the out door kitchen on campers.

I bolted the cabinet in using the factory studs that held in the original cabinet. Plus a couple carriage bolts in the floor.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/68004cc51c68d90f8e24b14790e95a62.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/3becf96705703c93c750d7ce964c19f3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180414/6bd1800f1d96bc650e22460f4feb669a.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on April 14, 2018, 01:05:49 PM
Mounting a tv in the sleeper for the kids?
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 14, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
Eventually yes. Its going to go overhead the front seats. I already know how I am going to run the wires.  Right now I am just doing everything I need. Next winter I will install the TV and DVD player then go over some cosmetic issues.



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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 16, 2018, 08:50:29 PM
Got the inverter wired up today. Used 1/0 welding cable. Used a 150 amp fuse link. I had the guy at the welding supply store crimp on a couple ends for me. They were junk. Slipped right off. So I used some solder on ends.
I hooked them straight to the batteries. Drilled holes through the floor. Then slid the cables through rubber grommets. Lots of dawn dish soap and they slid right through.
 Everything seemed to work when I tested it. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180417/bda31348a67efbb724bc252473e81527.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180417/0a7b3d84bbb7456e16c052da7d84eaba.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180417/ae463e6c06bd4fbb7f277c6bd2f91259.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 16, 2018, 09:07:06 PM
That?ll carry some juice!


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on April 16, 2018, 09:36:11 PM
Those $25 crimpers from Amazon have been worth their weight gold and then some around my place.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on April 17, 2018, 12:02:53 PM
Just put the little guy in that seat!

I have an anvil crimper that works good. That and good heatshrink is a must. I think the hand hydro crimpers would be better.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on April 17, 2018, 08:34:43 PM
I tried real hard to wait until next year to buy new seats but they were just too far gone. Besides that Sioux City Peterbilt gave me $100 off per seat so...I would normally have bought full leather but this truck is for pleasure not work. I hate sticking to a seat when I wear shorts. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180418/7bf9625c4ec44bd131b3335f9a0fddc8.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on April 17, 2018, 08:43:50 PM
Those are pretty nice looking.  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 05, 2018, 07:34:36 AM
I got the generator back from the muffler shop and it ran rough real rough. So I took it back to where I got it from. They said they would check it all out.

This where I earn the dummy of the day award. The guy called and said the generator runs fine. It ran rough for a few minutes and straitened right out.

 So, I'm sitting there talking to my brother about it and he asked if I ever shut the choke off. He choked it the first day we test fired it. Ran it for a 30 seconds tops (no exhaust on it at that point) and shut it off and went home. I said no I did not shut the choke off I thought it was automatic.

So that was my problem. Turns out it won't run very well with the choke left on.

Anyway. I tried charging the Air conditioner on the truck. I put in 6 cans of Freon. It worked very well for about 15 minutes. So now its at a shop getting that fixed. I found oil on one of the lines so I hope its just a blown line. With my luck its the most expensive line.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: stlaser on May 05, 2018, 08:03:29 AM
Progress Jon!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 05, 2018, 08:25:35 AM
:like


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 05, 2018, 09:31:19 AM
The important question is,  did they charge you to tell you the choke was on or did they let you save face and not tell you that was the issue?


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on May 05, 2018, 03:17:21 PM
Careful, he may "choke" on the answer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on May 05, 2018, 04:16:39 PM
6 cans of freon!?! Yikes

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 06, 2018, 09:32:16 AM
The important question is,  did they charge you to tell you the choke was on or did they let you save face and not tell you that was the issue?


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He just said it runs fine for us. Come get it. Didn't charge anything.  He said when I get the wiring done and plug in the camper to run it under a load bring it back in and they will make sure its running at the proper rpm.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on May 12, 2018, 07:51:00 AM
I just got the quote to fix my air conditioner. its going to be in the $4,000 area. I need everything from the condenser to the evaporator coils. except the compressor. I told him if we are changing everything else just as well do that too. It did squeak a little it. I looked at him and said Well I guess I should have bought a Volvo. He sad No they are ALL junk. (Meaning all trucks are junk no matter the brand). I'm going to have more in this truck than I expected but in the long run I feel its still worth it. Starting to get a little discouraged but that's the way it goes I guess. 
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 06, 2018, 06:57:01 AM
I haven't had the truck at home for a while. I took it to get the generator fixed. Then the A/C in the truck. After that I got it to the electrician to wire up the generator. Back to the truck shop because A/C quit again. Then back to the small engine guy because the generator still ran like crap. This time he changed points and condesor. I think he got it this time. It sounds pretty good.
We are leaving on our first trip in one week. Essentially everything is ready to roll but I have a bunch of odds and ends to do. Mainly cosmetic. Like paint the camper frame. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/b3bc2d32f27d4c070f873f068d9434f0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/d878803ddc7760b61bce5211adc52ac8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/86c13fd99cc4b77e379c4b4905a379e3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 06, 2018, 08:56:24 AM
Wishing you and your family a great trip and hope all your work pays off for a trouble free adventure!
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 06, 2018, 10:42:07 PM
Have a safe trip. Update is along the way.


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 11, 2018, 06:21:51 AM
I think I have everything ready to go for now. Today is generator test day.  I am going to fire it up and crank down the A/c I the camper and let it run all day. I should have done it sooner. I want to have the guys around so there is more than one set of eyes on it. Just in case something goes wrong.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Nate on June 11, 2018, 08:47:44 AM
sounds reasonable
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 11, 2018, 06:37:20 PM
I was not optimistic but everything performed as it should. Nice and quiet. A couple more odds and ends and we are ready to go.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 11, 2018, 06:38:22 PM
Great news!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: KensAuto on June 11, 2018, 08:27:56 PM
Enjoy your trip Jon. Sounds like you got her squared away just in time.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on June 14, 2018, 07:17:31 PM
Just pulled into little farm RV resort in South eastern Indiana. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/d165382b85ac89bc31a57905e0424442.jpg)

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on June 14, 2018, 07:41:51 PM
Bet you got lots of attention!

We went to the desert once with our motorcycles and trucks on a flatbed.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on July 06, 2018, 07:16:37 AM
Got home last night. Averaged 9 mpg. I have to make some changes but over all really happy with the truck. This is the way to go. I will never pull that 5th wheel with my pickup again. Unless we are just going to a local campground. Never once had to worry if I was going to be able to get stopped. Never slowed down on a hill.
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: cruizng on July 06, 2018, 08:14:47 AM
Glad you made it home safe and enjoyed the trip!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 06, 2018, 01:25:46 PM
Glad you made it home safe and enjoyed the trip!  :likebutton:
Is that the mileage you expected?  That was about what I averaged with my dually until I deleted it..

Glad you had a good trip.


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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: JR on July 06, 2018, 06:22:05 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on July 06, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
I was hoping for 10 but I will take 9. The LBZ only got 10-13 so it's not much difference. I will sacrifice a couple MPG for the safety.

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Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Nate on July 06, 2018, 09:39:55 PM
How about the comfort?  Did Johnny law mess with you at all or do you have not for hire on the door?
Title: Re: Toter-home build.
Post by: Farmer Jon on July 09, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Nobody messed with us. There are law enforcement officers on the Escapees forum that recommend you don't put anything about "not for hire" on the truck. It draws attention. It makes them want to ho find out why you are not for hire.
I have all my paperwork in a neat little binder. Camper and truck registration and proof of insurance. Along with a copy of the rules of what it takes to be a Motor home in the state of Nebraska. I had the DMV print out a copy for me.
As for comfort it was a little more bouncy because if the air ride cab and air seat. Otherwise it was very comfortable. There is just so much more room in the truck cab than a pickup.

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