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We shouldn't think of the teachers ect as a SWAT team.  They need to be thought of as barricaded in their space prepared to defend those in their care, not roaming the halls looking for the bad guy with a gun.  That would have a huge potential to have a terrible outcome

Not with you on that one Matt - I don't want my students or myself to become fish in a barrel and should an attacker climb in the barrel, I want to be the Chief Piranah with the ability to separate his grey matter from his/her cranium......first line of defense is not SWAT.  Honestly, take away the gun free zone and have just one assailant catch a round to the chest at a school and the problem will disappear quickly.

Norm, not to worry, most teachers I work with wouldn't be in the same room with a gun since they're like Hillary when she looses - goes off without warning!  You would have to make all the guns pink and fuzzy and they can only shoot rainbows and lollipops.....You are correct Norm on some counts and wrong on some others.  Teachers who carry would need to be unknown to their fellow teachers and students and it would need to be ON THEIR PERSON at all times.  Not locked-up......under stress fine motor skills go to crap....what frickin' key is it?

I would want to be trained by FBI/SEALS/US MARSHALLS some group that actually know their stuff and I would want to have to pass such a course with accuracy and stability.  I would also what to pass some "paintball" scenarios (shoot/don't shoot) as well as pass evaluation from an AGENCY shrink who actually deals with members of aforementioned groups as to fitness to protect the students, sheep and assclowns I'd work amongst........might be a problem overcoming the urge to fragg some who didn't succumb to some Fraternity/Sorority prank during their undergraduate studies!  We currently have a handful of staff members whom I would proudly stand beside with confidence in a worst case scenario - Desert Storm Marine who was a click away from the infamous Airstrike on friendlies.  2 Deans of Students, one who was a competitive Army Machine Gun specialist.

There are no EASY answers, though there are some common sense actions that could be taken to lessen the current "Fish in the barrel" climate.

Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: February 23, 2018, 11:14:43 AM »
I want that neck! have you ever done clarified stocks Nate? I'd be game to play with a couple recipes, swap techniques if you're interested.

Is that a reference to Charles?

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 23, 2018, 11:11:42 AM »
Ended up quoted in the Local Democratic News paper......http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-arming-teachers-20180222-story.html

Had to fight to get the reporter to return to the quote we'd agreed upon after her editor tried to milk toast it beyond the already softened version I'd OK'd.  I gave her credit for doing what she did, given the Alt Left BS they usually print.  I refrained from informing her that I was our previous Union President - had I know they were quoting the two Socialist Leaders of the National Unions, I'd have put that in there too!  When I get a chance, I'll post my actual typed replies to their submitted questions - I typed them and used work email so that there was hard evidence on what I actually said.

Pasted email exchange below:

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:08 PM, Ortiz Healy, Vikki wrote:

Sounds good. Here you go:

How do you feel about the idea of teachers being armed to protect students from school violence?

This is simple, yet complicated question.  YES, I think that certain school employees/teachers should be armed ONLY IF they are qualified.  A concealed carry permit holder, is licensed by the State to do so in all areas of Illinois and multiple other states in what are referred to as "permitted" areas - Schools are one of several where it's not allowed.  That's one of the first requirements that I feel would be necessary for a School Employee to be eligible, followed by specific training in close quarter combat qualification through a state or Federal body such as the Military, FBI where the individual is drilled in "shoot - don't shoot" scenarios and passes practical competency drills.  The area where local Districts will balk at the idea is partially political and partially a liability issue - that's where this concept will die in Illinois.

Can you explain what brought you to this viewpoint?

Schools are well known as "Soft Targets" since almost universally, the possession of a gun on Public School property is illegal, except for Law Enforcement personnel.  How do you change that fact?  Change those rules to allow certain employees, unknown to the public to change the dynamic.  Criminals generally don't break into a when someone is home, due to the unknown element of the owner being armed - the same would then extend to schools.  I believe that there are some schools in Texas, with actual warning signs that employees are armed and will respond with deadly force if warranted.  Another factor that supports this viewpoint is that a few years ago, at one of our Institute Days, local law enforcement presenters came and spoke to the faculty regarding active shooter situations.  They basically stated that statistically, they would not be here in time to stop the shooter for a few reasons.  These are planned acts of opportunity that are fairly short in duration and usually those who perpetrate these crimes, take their own lives when confronted by armed resistance; they said that they would be here in time to clean-up and investigate the crime.  CLEARLY they were not implying their unwillingness to intervene or place their lives on the line to protect others, rather speaking to the reality of statistical data.  So that leaves individuals who are "on site" to do whatever they can to stop the threat and save the lives of their students.  We are fortunate to have an armed Police Liaison Officer on site, but they cannot be everywhere and their are days they are not on site due to other duties.

Do you ever use a gun, or do you have one?

I'll leave that unanswered

What do you think people who are strongly against the idea of teachers being armed are not seeing?

Several things that I've mentioned above.  There's also the myth that one can give up personal liberty/responsibility in the name of safety; in the words of Benjamin Franklin they deserve neither.  Reliance upon someone else to swoop in and protect you on a daily basis isn't practical; we ultimately are responsible to position ourselves and our families by taking actions needed to mitigate unnecessary risk - leave your doors unlocked and act surprised that you've been robbed and you're a fool.  Evil exists in the world; always has and always will.

This would be a good start. And then if you could just let me know what your title is and how old you are, that?d be great!

I'm a classroom teacher in the District for 32 years.

Thank you so much. I?ll type your responses into paragraphs and run them past you before I include in story.




Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: February 23, 2018, 06:45:46 AM »
Nate, is that Maker?s n Coke swimming in that BRCC tankard?  Had turkey breast from the InstPot and some 46 myself last night!

Most Favored Companies / Re: Companies we don't like so much
« on: February 21, 2018, 11:52:43 AM »
I?ll just eat my steaks out-back of my house!  I hope that criminals are widely appraised of this situation and law enforcement officers are certain to obey all traffic laws and speed limits when responding to any disturbances at a Bloomin establishment.

Gun Control / Re: Trump to Sessions “ban bump fire stocks”
« on: February 20, 2018, 10:44:11 PM »
As I said to one of my classes today, this is a PEOPLE problem and NOT an object problem.  Airplanes, pressure cookers, vests full of explosives and ball bearings; without a person misusing them with evil intent, they cannot generally injure others.

Befriend the ?strange? kid, I told them - if everyone in schools did that I think those on the fringes would become less prone to lash out.  More attention, more professional mental health services AND more active interventions that mandate treatment for those types of people across society is where the reaction to this problem needs to be focused.

God, Family, Morality, Consequences and Love of our Neighbors....these are once commonplace and the norm; today they are not.......as these decline, violence and tragedies have increased.

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: February 16, 2018, 10:22:04 AM »
VERY nice tiles and stone!

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 16, 2018, 10:20:41 AM »
^^^ X2 ^^^^  Make it a double and include that illegal turd from south of Texas who complained how he'd wished that he'd killed more cops.  Let them hang until the crows have pecked out their eyes and then burn the remains in the town square.  There's NO deterrent for anyone other than those who actually follow the law -

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:20:22 PM »
Doesn't Texas still have firing squad as an option?

Boats & Waterborne Craft / Re: New motor for the seahawk boat...
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:14:41 PM »
So my insurance decides to send an adjuster to evaluate the actual value of the boat and motor and I'm thinking, great. they're going to total it. NOPE! They estimated the value of my 1996 open bow Larsen with a 4.3 merc and freshwater cooling system at $13,800.00 and cut me a check for $6k to replace the motor. My wife calls to tell me this and I'm adamantly arguing with her that she must be mistaken, but she's not. And my ignorance and ultimate cause of some if not all of the damage was clearly laid out in front of them. I didn't want to be dishonest about a single aspect of it and they still covered it. there must be some rider about dumb owner coverage or something!

It's called an act of God.....he created you, didn't he?    :grin:   Congratulation Tate, really happy for you, and now you can do it up right!

Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:11:53 PM »
Shrimps the size of a Filet.....wow Nate.....

my Lady says I have an open budget (to an extent) when it comes to groceries.

Come on Ken & Shawn, we can live in the garage......he's got a new set of tools that need stress testing!  We can relive Animal House with his truck - Shawn, bring a cutting torch, Ken grab a guitar and I'll grab sheets and a keg!

Faith Discussion / Re: Duanes home burned down today!
« on: February 15, 2018, 08:06:29 PM »
Prayers sent for Duane and his family; may they be drawn closer and stronger through this most difficult time - God Bless them and hold them close.

Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:15:49 PM »
^^^^^ And that?s why Nate has a gorgeous Lady in his life - YOU'RE HIGH MAINTENANCE KEN!  Like Hildabeast!  :grin:

Share Your Recipe / Re: whats for dinner tonight
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:59:19 PM »
Shrimps the size of a Filet.....wow Nate.....starting to think that the potential attraction to you wasn't so misguided and Ken might actually hop into that Jetta with you!  Don't worry, Shawn and I will tie some empty Makers bottles behind on the bicycle rack with a sign outside that Air Farce Chapel  :beercheers:

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:29:59 PM »
Success!  Pool holds water!

D.O.T. / Re: Winter driving
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:28:47 PM »
Regardless of where you live or how often it snows:  You can?t fix stupid!

D.O.T. / Re: THIS!
« on: February 13, 2018, 05:24:13 PM »
Good read and laugh!

D.O.T. / Re: SpaceX launch
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:06:44 PM »
^^^^ in the voice of a storm trooper, ?nothing to see here, move along...?

D.O.T. / Re: SpaceX launch
« on: February 11, 2018, 10:20:36 AM »
^^^^.....and this is how Star Wars came into existence.............may the farce be with ye!   :popcorn:

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: February 11, 2018, 09:59:35 AM »
Looking good Charles, what's the finish plan for the interior surface of the pool, tile?

Farming, Gardening, and Raising Your Own Food / Re: Raised veggie garden.
« on: February 09, 2018, 06:05:52 PM »
Romba - like the robot floor sweeper

Most Favored Companies / Re: Companies that Real-Man likes!
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:41:04 PM »
Shawn?s previous post redacted for security reasons.......RUSSIAN COLLUSION was almost exposed!

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:39:05 PM »
Prayers sent for all.........teens are a fragile age group in today?s society especially!  Mature on the outside SO fast, but mentally and emotionally so slow in a world that moves WAY to fast.  God Bless them all!

Most Favored Companies / Re: Companies that Real-Man likes!
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:32:33 PM »
I wouldn?t open the mod abilities to everyone......very tempting to be able to alter things for ones amusement!

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:29:27 PM »
Now Don, I did ask where the duck blind was and JR already mentioned brushing in the hot tub.  Have you considered that since Charles isn?t a pilot, he?s used to the concept of nobody else is going to service his abused equipment and therefore avoids using his slide rule as a hammer?  Now, granted YOU fix whatever you break and mostly on your own, but you still need to master the art of Broke Stuff avoidance.  You know.....how to avoid BS!

Heavenly Father, guide Don?s surgeons and restore your servant to health in rapid fashion so he may continue to serve you .......... AND entertain the DOT Army you?ve placed in his life!

In Jesus name, Amen!

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 09, 2018, 03:07:09 PM »
You?re in our prayers Mike!

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 09, 2018, 08:23:57 AM »
Heading out to do battle with Snowmeggedon - 8+ Inches and growing throughout the day!

Faith Discussion / Re: Prayer Request thread
« on: February 08, 2018, 11:56:55 AM »
Sent Tate!  Just let him know that you are hurting too, and pray WITH him for his sick mother and remind him and yourself that it?s a terrible disease that his mother is battling.

My guess is Coffee could come back and outplay Crappynickers, cause he actually has a spine!

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 08, 2018, 11:43:32 AM »

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: February 07, 2018, 08:52:28 PM »
Where's the rough-in for the duck blind?

Farming, Gardening, and Raising Your Own Food / Re: Raised veggie garden.
« on: February 07, 2018, 08:48:09 PM »
Other than apparently having the top rail level and contoured with the yards grade, is there a production/yield advantage to having it deeper at one area than others?

Soldier Up / Re: Posture Correction
« on: February 07, 2018, 03:19:44 PM »
At least the price is reasonable!

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: February 06, 2018, 07:46:41 PM »

Like ALL you do: top notch!  Quality doesn?t exclude you from Redneck STATUS!  That?s about attitude and not intelligence.  My students ask me if I?m a redneck and I don?t feel it?s an insult, rather a compliment regarding my attitude and convictions!

Jeffery Daumier was turned into a popsicle with a broomstick near one of my frequently visited Field Trial grounds, so regardless of how long he remains in the system, he?ll reaps what he?s down and then he ushered into the presence of our Lord for judgement that is infallible!

Build Threads / Re: 2008 Jeep Jk 4 Door
« on: February 05, 2018, 09:46:23 PM »
Don probably banned him and he's taken his punishment seriously.........time to re-instate him Don!  :facepalm:

D.O.T. / Re: Don re-enters the workforce
« on: February 05, 2018, 07:48:42 PM »
Is that why flight suits have a slight brown color to them?

Message from the Owner / Re: No Superbowl for me!
« on: February 05, 2018, 07:28:14 AM »
Claymore or two would be a much more effective alternative Ken.

Message from the Owner / Re: No Superbowl for me!
« on: February 04, 2018, 10:38:52 PM »
Well, Don, Eagles coach just thanked his "Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" on national TV for making all things possible as did one of his captains, and the quarterback/MVP......Glad I watched for the first time this year! :likebutton:

Message from the Owner / Re: No Superbowl for me!
« on: February 04, 2018, 08:53:48 PM »
Catholic/Episcopal Church......they do a lot of of kneeling

D.O.T. / Re: State of The Union Transcript
« on: February 01, 2018, 01:35:17 PM »
^^^^^^ I don't know Ken, that kinda makes your girlfriend look almost HOT.....like steam off the ground behind a horse......but still on the HOT spectrum there Ken! ^^^^^^

Those two and Elizabeth Warren round out the Trifecta of things that make men turn gay..... :facepalm:

D.O.T. / Re: State of The Union Transcript
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:56:40 AM »
My impression was that Pelosi was trying really hard to swallow her face, but she kept gagging on the rancid taste it left in her mouth...... :grin:

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:53:58 AM »
Hope it's not a new shiny metal part associated with your spine......

D.O.T. / Re: So our backyard pig converted to islam.
« on: February 01, 2018, 09:51:39 AM »
Haven't they already been given notice?............... :rolleyes:  I guess it would just be "The will of Ahhaa"

Construction and Building / Re: Our House
« on: January 31, 2018, 04:14:07 PM »
Looking GOOD!  I'll honk as I drive by tomorrow night around 9pm!

D.O.T. / Re: WDYDT (What Did You Do Today)
« on: January 31, 2018, 07:02:42 AM »
Charles, you need to stream that live to your thread.....Big Foot could turn out to be someone on this site!

CIEMR / Re: Trump Amnesty OFFER
« on: January 31, 2018, 06:58:59 AM »
He?s going to give amnesty to a couple million because it polls well and it will get him the wall. And he needs the wall, and needs to appease moderates a bit by saving ?the Kids? going into Mid-terms

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He?s also painting the Libs into a corner - counter their absurd NO RESTRICTIONS demand with down the middle compromise AND include more schemers in the deal and watch them self destruct trying to make people believe it?s a bad deal......

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: January 29, 2018, 12:52:46 PM »
I think the idea of breaking the outside layer of steel defeats the entire purpose!  Do you really want holes in the sides and roof? :facepalm:

Hide Site / Re: Hide site, retirement site.
« on: January 28, 2018, 07:10:54 PM »

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