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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #450 on: April 26, 2016, 10:30:28 PM »
I believe I've heard someone say something to the effect "Boys never actually grow up, their toys just get bigger "
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the hole in the side of the house. lol
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #451 on: April 26, 2016, 11:01:43 PM »
With the grade you have there, along with the water just a good leach line should do. Just pointed away from your water!

Yep, video or it didn't happen. Got a review on my new Gen coming up, butt I can't find my scale!!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #452 on: April 26, 2016, 11:13:27 PM »
Looking good Don!  I really like that 4 in 1 bucket.  I may have to look into that and get rid of the grapple on the front of my bucket
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #453 on: April 27, 2016, 09:06:10 AM »
Looking good Don!  I really like that 4 in 1 bucket.  I may have to look into that and get rid of the grapple on the front of my bucket
The 4-1 probably doubles the utility of the machine...Wish my loader had one. Think of it as a hand that can pick up trees. You'll need aux hydraulics, a simple kit, and the bucket. Probably under 5K for all
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #454 on: April 27, 2016, 09:08:06 AM »
With the grade you have there, along with the water just a good leach line should do. Just pointed away from your water!

Yep, video or it didn't happen. Got a review on my new Gen coming up, butt I can't find my scale!!
Try to get Duane to vid it, or put the camera on a stick and have it auto snap pics every 10 seconds
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #455 on: April 27, 2016, 06:22:06 PM »
I picked up a new Square D 200 amp service panel today

Along with a bunch of one gang boxes. I guess I'll nail that up somewhere so I'll have a target for the underground cable to be installed
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #456 on: April 27, 2016, 07:59:03 PM »
You already have the meter box mounted to something you aren't planning on or have already destroyed? Partially or otherwise.....
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #457 on: April 27, 2016, 08:03:04 PM »
You already have the meter box mounted to something you aren't planning on or have already destroyed? Partially or otherwise.....
That was one of the first things we blasted apart! It has been hit by so many 9mm rounds and 12 gage, and 5.56, some 7.62, a bunch of .22 and on and on.

It's more scrap copper and brass at this point than anything else!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #458 on: April 27, 2016, 08:36:02 PM »
Ok, so you bought a meter base not a breaker panel.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #459 on: April 27, 2016, 08:59:17 PM »
I sure hope you need a permit and inspection before it goes hot!!!! Maybe Duane is a Sparky, sounds like you need help.

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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #460 on: April 27, 2016, 11:25:21 PM »
I was supposed to try and start Square D today....


I think this is what you meant to type. :)
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #461 on: April 27, 2016, 11:48:35 PM »
I'll be honest, I skim read sq d & thought he actually did something with it. Then I re read it & realized what he had done by referencing sq d electrical crap....... Boo boo boo!!

It's ok, oldkoot & I decided we're gunna start a raffle. $5 buys you a weeks time frame. You pick whatever week you like & if Big D gets it running in your week you win. Of course Don is not allowed to know who has what week etc mainly because he'd make sure we all lost....... Now by chance if he gets it running in a week no one claims then I think we'll have to donate to Riley's Children Hospital or another great cause you get the idea. At this rate the pot will grow into the thousands before he decides to touch it!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #462 on: April 28, 2016, 01:10:45 AM »
I'll be honest, I skim read sq d & thought he actually did something with it. Then I re read it & realized what he had done by referencing sq d electrical crap....... Boo boo boo!!

It's ok, oldkoot & I decided we're gunna start a raffle. $5 buys you a weeks time frame. You pick whatever week you like & if Big D gets it running in your week you win. Of course Don is not allowed to know who has what week etc mainly because he'd make sure we all lost....... Now by chance if he gets it running in a week no one claims then I think we'll have to donate to Riley's Children Hospital or another great cause you get the idea. At this rate the pot will grow into the thousands before he decides to touch it!

Well at least there's something out at the farm by the name of Square D.  :o
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #463 on: April 28, 2016, 08:15:45 AM »
Ok, so you bought a meter base not a breaker panel.
No, I purchased a breaker panel.

And a bunch of nail in receptacle and switch boxes.
Figure I'll nail them in where I want things, then pull wire.
And yes, Duane will be about to check it all out...
Although after wiring the that grand garage Ma-Hall of his, he was showing me, threw a switch and "Pow" a shower of sparks...
So he has not reached wizard status quite yet

Oh and square D time was eaten up by a hair cut, chain saw chain sharpening and sawmill shopping!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #464 on: April 28, 2016, 09:18:29 AM »
Sawmill?  Cool!

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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #465 on: April 29, 2016, 02:52:21 AM »
Well, at least he mentioned SD,,,,,,,,,,,,

Sparks? do tell
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #466 on: April 29, 2016, 07:43:09 AM »
Well, at least he mentioned SD,,,,,,,,,,,,

Sparks? do tell
No real story

He wired the thing

threw the switch

and Bang

Probably the only thing I ever saw him do incorrectly.

Now his daughter, driving off in a creek in his sequoia, that's a different story!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #467 on: April 29, 2016, 10:18:12 AM »
Well, at least he mentioned SD,,,,,,,,,,,,

Sparks? do tell
No real story

He wired the thing

threw the switch

and Bang

Probably the only thing I ever saw him do incorrectly.

Now his daughter, driving off in a creek in his sequoia, that's a different story!

We still need pics,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,of BOTH!!!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #468 on: April 29, 2016, 10:27:02 PM »
It has been a busy week with respect to the hide.

Have been working legal issues.

If you buy way rural land, expect folks to know you are coming. Further, expect them to resist your coming. People like things as they are and always have been and do not like change. I think that becomes a real consideration when buying land that has been in a family for generations. In my case the locals have not warmly received me, and some are actively resisting my being there. One hired an attorney to keep me off his farm, which I need to cross to gain access to mine.

I have a Kentucky prescriptive easement, but that will not prevent people from getting silly, protective and over reacting. I had to hire an attorney and will now have to sac valuable $$$ on defending what is legally mine.

So that has kept me occupied for a bit this week. Other than that I moved some more dirt, fixed the loader, pushed back the woods on the western side, and went active solving the water problem.

Much the same as one might homestead anywhere, you start at a rudimentary point and expand the capabilities of the place to sustain you. I am doing the same thing here. At first I had only the land. Then I started reclaiming it. Then with a camper down there I could at least stay dry. I added power via a generator, the added a shed. THe latter will grow into a camper support facility with storage, a shop to fix and build things, a laundry, frig and more room in case we want to crash out entirely in the top floor.

I am at the point now where I need to add water and then electricity. To start with I will have the simple water trailer I mentioned. I purchased a 210 gal plastic pickup bed tank that absolutely looks lost in the expansive Armee trailer. I might take it back and upgrade to the 325 gallon unit. That setup is complimented with a 12 volt water pump and some hose. With this I can refill the camper 50 gallon water tank whenever and have water to mix concrete with.

All the time we are getting healthier and better situated down there. I'l post pics tomorrow of the water trailer setup
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #469 on: April 30, 2016, 03:01:32 AM »
I understand the easements and access issues. It gets cloudy between civil and penal and everyone thinks they are right.

Be sure to include collecting for your legal fees in a counter suit, but any good attorney should know that.

Good luck and prayers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Yep, those portable liquid skids are handy and stout.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #470 on: April 30, 2016, 09:27:20 AM »
Don, did you buy title insurance when you bought the farm?

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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #471 on: April 30, 2016, 09:53:39 AM »
Don, did you buy title insurance when you bought the farm?
Yes, sure did

It is not an issue really

The nature of folks as I have learned is that they complain a lot but not a lot of fight in them really. 3.5% of the population fought in the revolutionary war...and all that

Most people will not stand up for the real fight or stand after the enemy shows up. I, however will. Start it and although I have no wish nor desire, I'll jock up and finish it.

Once these people see you are willing to throw your money and theirs into a courtroom, they back down.

I add to that the human element. I like to fact them from about three feet.
1. Shows them my resolve
2. Shows them I do not fear them, nor this show of strength
3. Allows them to see "Me," a guy who will not hurt them, but could be a good neighbor.

I did all that and hired two attorneys. One failed to do his job, but my second is no such slacker. Neither is he a big bully. A softer spoken man, he is simply technically correct and studied at all he does. Couple that with a wisdom beyond his age and I have the right man for the job.

in the end I will actually own the offending farms, as my plans has me expanding to 450+ acres, but for now I'm just fine.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #472 on: April 30, 2016, 12:17:07 PM »
Sounds like a good approach.

Rifleman quote; "Don't go looking for a fight, but never run from one either"
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #473 on: April 30, 2016, 03:25:03 PM »
I would guess that some of these "neighbors" also know about RMTWS, from all of your rolling billboards, and probably have visited this site....might wanna keep that in mind.


...or maybe I'm the "too cautious" type.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #474 on: April 30, 2016, 05:16:33 PM »
Ken,
I don't say anything here I would not say to anyone's face there or otherwise.

OK, so I think I solved the temporary water problem and advanced the hide to the next level.

Over the past two days, I have shopped and purchased a couple of water tanks and after returning one, have the right one in my possession

I picked the tanks up at TSC (tractor Supply Company)

They had a decent selection of poly tanks designed specifically for water storage.

The largest the carry is this 1550 gal tank for $800
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #475 on: April 30, 2016, 05:17:29 PM »
They all feature one screw on lid and one 2" NPT outlet
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #476 on: April 30, 2016, 05:18:47 PM »
I considered the leg style tanks, but after consideration, knowing it would push the CG of the top heavy trailer higher, I opted for the pickup bed designed mushroom tank
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #477 on: April 30, 2016, 05:20:11 PM »
This little guy was the first tank I purchased, a 210 gallon unit.

After a night of thinking about it, I concluded it was just too small so I took it back for a larger tank
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #478 on: April 30, 2016, 05:22:04 PM »
This tank better fits the trailer and gives me an extra 100+ gallons to play with...Meaning the wife can take one of her normal 2 hour showers!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #479 on: April 30, 2016, 05:26:26 PM »
When I traded it out, the strangest thing happened.

I had paid $249 for the 210 gallon tank, but the larger 325 gallon tank rung up at only $229! I got money refunded to me along with the larger and better fitting water tank!

This tank is only a transfer tank. I'll use it to refill the Camper's 50-60 gallon tank and for construction needs. Heck, I might get crazy and wash the tractor, but don't hold your breath, as I have never washed the or any tractor (I think??)

To that end, I'll be using a 12 volt transfer pump. This little guy will move 450 an hour and run off a jumper cable.

It was also marked down from $119 to $99!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #480 on: April 30, 2016, 05:30:10 PM »
A stack of nylon fittings, a water drinking hose and the cargo straps round out this project and get me to the "Go" column for my immediate water needs.

With the infrastructure going in now, and the digging of holes. It is suddenly to start burying things like electrical lines, water lines, and a cistern. With the coming cistern and water power to operate a pump, showers are all but here!

I'm thinking I'm taking a camper or a bucket shower for a lot of the summer...

I think I'll set my target date for a heated indoor shower for this coming fall, say, October.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #481 on: April 30, 2016, 07:29:34 PM »
Nice tank. I didn't know they made them to fit a truck bed...pretty useful!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #482 on: April 30, 2016, 08:03:01 PM »
Nice score both ways. 12v is nice but can be slow when real flow is needed. Maybe a small gas pump would be nice for those times when flow in needed.

And what is wrong with a long shower now and then??
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #483 on: April 30, 2016, 09:14:25 PM »
I had to bush the large hole down to 1" and then again to 3/4" NPT before I could screw in a barbed fitting for the actual hose
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #484 on: April 30, 2016, 09:15:40 PM »
I made up this pump board to fit over the fittings to protect them and also to positively locate the pump
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #485 on: April 30, 2016, 09:17:43 PM »
It is held around the tank by two straps under tension

Then three more 1000 lb straps secure the tank to the super strong floor mounted tie down rings.

I love this trailer. I'm going to get another one!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #486 on: April 30, 2016, 09:21:17 PM »
Then I covered all that with a tarp to somewhat weather proof the setup. I'll throw a second tarp on it down at the Farm to block out all light so I won't be taking a green fibrous like shower

The tarp is zip tied to the tie down loops but the corner adjacent to the filler lid is bungeed (Is that a word??) in place
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #487 on: April 30, 2016, 09:23:06 PM »
And that is my 325 gallon water buffalo unit, just like that

It was raining outside and I was messing with water as well, so I decided to wash the Ranger. He was a trooper, and just stood there and let me do my business!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #488 on: April 30, 2016, 11:25:31 PM »
Good progress Don.  I love TSC.  I run in to get one thing and end up hanging out in the vet supplies aisle just reading labels....Everthing in that store fascinates me
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #489 on: May 01, 2016, 12:21:36 AM »
Good start and sure there are tweaks to come. I notice red dog is not talked about a lot now, is he farmed out?

I have been thinking about making soft tops for my trailers.

Just a rail on the edge with posts welded on. Bend some 3/4 conduit that plugs into them and tarp over the top. Easy on, easy off and protects whats inside. Getting a custom cover shouldn't be very pricey either.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #490 on: May 01, 2016, 09:00:01 AM »
Still leaving loose straps just hanging in the breeze huh?? For shame!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #491 on: May 01, 2016, 09:06:30 AM »
One thought, as you start burying stuff (lines etc) make yourself a good map. Plot locations etc as well as depths of lines (try to stay consistent on depth too). Just a good business practice for future additions......
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #492 on: May 01, 2016, 09:47:01 AM »
Second that motion.  When my pops passed mom found a map that dad had made of our property and everything was to scale. It helped a bunch with fixing sprinklers and so forth.  It's a good idea


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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #493 on: May 01, 2016, 03:18:11 PM »

No real story

He wired the thing

threw the switch

and Bang

Probably the only thing I ever saw him do incorrectly.

Now his daughter, driving off in a creek in his sequoia, that's a different story!

I don't remember that...

I do remember two times sparks flew at your casa, though.  Once while trying to address the poorly installed 50A 220v  (welder/compressor) outlet in your garage; I still don't know how that passed inspection...

The other time was trying to configure the wiring on your present compressor; that was another PIA! 

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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #494 on: May 01, 2016, 05:02:04 PM »
Still leaving loose straps just hanging in the breeze huh?? For shame!
I need a good NCO to inspect my work!
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #495 on: May 01, 2016, 05:02:41 PM »
One thought, as you start burying stuff (lines etc) make yourself a good map. Plot locations etc as well as depths of lines (try to stay consistent on depth too). Just a good business practice for future additions......
Wilco!

Plus I take lots of pics so I can reference things in the future.
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #496 on: May 03, 2016, 08:17:43 AM »
Wow you tied that tank down LoL  Around here we just toss em in the pickup and use water to hold them in...or roundup or whatever is in the tank. All this talk about water.... no plans for a well?


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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #497 on: May 03, 2016, 09:31:51 AM »
Wow you tied that tank down LoL  Around here we just toss em in the pickup and use water to hold them in...or roundup or whatever is in the tank. All this talk about water.... no plans for a well?


Already have one!

But

UK says not to rely on it unless you are filtering.

Seems an aquifer will run clean for 100 years, then "Rust through" a layer of limestone, and mix with some some of Tennessee's nuclear waste, then some house will fall into the sink hole that made five years later, and the thing will go clean again.

So until someone's house gets swallowed up, we never know whether to trust the water or not...Pastor just called, gotta go to church...emergency meetin' of some kind!...
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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #498 on: May 03, 2016, 12:49:34 PM »
That makes sense then....I look forward to your cistren build, always fun to learn new ways to old problems.

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Re: Hide/Bug-out site construction thread, Part 2
« Reply #499 on: May 03, 2016, 02:40:00 PM »
Hmm, 100 years sounds good to me.
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