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« on: August 25, 2017, 09:47:00 PM »
I have the need to haul quantities of water to various spots for drinking, washing, and construction uses. Be it from water for concrete to washing some equipment, I need to have the water mobile.

I also have the need to take fuel to my heavy equipment. Those pieces of equipment can suck up 60 gallons at a time. Driving a 55,000 lb excavator a half mile to a fuel station is just not practical.

The fuel tanks with pump can run well over a thousand dollars, and although nice, are far above what I require. So in this HMMV trailer I have I plan to siamese two 55 gal metal drums and plumb them up for a pump run by an organic 12 volt battery. The water will likewise be pressurized through a organic pump and routed to some standard faucets for convenience

We going to start with the old Armee trailer which has been serving me well for a few years now.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 09:49:17 PM »
Its ugly, I know. But that thing would hide very well under a cedar tree and it has managed to stay in my possession all this time!

First order of business is removal of the existing 325 gal tank and everything else that has accumulated in there
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 09:49:54 PM »
And, yes, its nasty
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 09:50:48 PM »
I had some water exposed to sunlight for a month or so and the algae growth that took place is startling!
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 09:52:19 PM »
After disassembly, I fired up that old tried and true pressure washer and got after it
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 09:53:05 PM »
Then came the water tank. It cleaned up like new!
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 09:59:55 PM »
The next day it is all dried up.

Please note that this is military CART paint. If you breath the dust from that stuff you can develop a nasty cancer. CART paint is much more than just paint. The highly modified formula is actually designed to absorb and hold nerve toxin and some other weaponized chemicals, hopefully preventing those nasties from spreading onto a soldiers skin and subsequently killing him. A pin sized droplet of VX is all it takes to kill you in 45 seconds after contact. Almost as bad as having to listen to or look at Antifa protesters dressed up as female genitalia (As they seem to like doing)

So, I am not going to sand that stuff at all. Nope, just spray paint over it and hope for the best.

I did, however mask the lighted and cool data plates off
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 10:01:53 PM »
GCI paint is oil based enamel and is mixed to the exact mil-spec colors of the era represented by that color.

I used the Army Jeep Paint, WW2 color for Square D, a truck I used to have, which is now covered by dust and ruined again!
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 10:06:30 PM »
But this time I monkeyed with the color a bit to make it mine. Reason is, this particular gallon is the color the Armee used after ww2 and into the Korean war. It shifted toward a green with a muddy brown hue, not my fav...

So I opened up the safe. You see, I have been investing in some John Deere green paint, hoping it will be as valuable as they seem to think those tractors are. I pulled a quart and poured it into the Armee slurry to come up with "John Armee Green" a new color previously known to nobody (And that's a good thing!)
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 10:08:23 PM »
Matching the color, will, of course be impossible, but ask me if I care?

Then I thinned the goop and added some hardener to keep the inevitable dog claw marks as minimally destructive as possible
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 10:11:29 PM »
That "Majic" paint is cheap old tractor and implement paint from TSC and very affordable.

For the next 3.5 hours I sprayed and sprayed till I's could spray no more!

And all that turned the trailer John Armee green and placed a smile on my tired face
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2017, 10:12:10 PM »
Fifteen minutes later the paint all fell off!
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2017, 10:23:13 PM »
I like it!!
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2017, 08:05:11 AM »
You mean this stuff??
http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_camo_carc2.php

Interesting. If I ever get some mil equip I'll remember not to sand



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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2017, 09:50:37 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2017, 09:32:21 PM »
You mean this stuff??
http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_camo_carc2.php

Interesting. If I ever get some mil equip I'll remember not to sand



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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2017, 09:35:27 PM »
Being that this is dumb old oil based enamel, albeit with hardener, I am going to give it 48 hours to cure before continuing with this build out.
At S+24 (Spraying time) the finish is hard and completely dry to the touch. Allowing it all day in the sun and another 24 hours should do the trick. I could be back on it by tomorrow
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2017, 10:02:27 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2017, 11:13:18 PM »
I'm looking at one of these locally, just trying to figure out what I'd use it for. It would be great for farm duty me thinks.
http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2017, 11:40:30 PM »

I'm looking at one of these locally, just trying to figure out what I'd use it for. It would be great for farm duty me thinks.
http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/


You own a farm? Maybe just park it on the line and call it a day. You will find a use as time goes by. Looks like you could haul your tuck legal, but what would you use to move it then.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2017, 01:15:12 AM »
I'm looking at one of these locally, just trying to figure out what I'd use it for. It would be great for farm duty me thinks.
http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/

Honestly that is exactly what don should be using instead of that small trailer.............
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2017, 11:21:47 AM »
Bob, no but Don does.
What would I haul it with? ... probably have something that would work.
(Those are purpose built to go behind a 5 ton)

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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2017, 02:00:09 PM »
Bob, no but Don does.
What would I haul it with? ... probably have something that would work.
(Those are purpose built to go behind a 5 ton)

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Correct ken, that purpose is actually hauling fuel or water pods


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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2017, 03:15:25 PM »
Just looked up the specs on the M1061A1...wow:

Model Flatbed Trailer (M1061)
NSN Number NSN 2330-01-207-3533
GVWR 15,850 Lbs.
Curb Weight 5,850 Lbs.
Tires 12x16.5 LT Tubeless
Wheels 8.25x20 Steel 6-Hole
Dual Axles 20,000 Lbs. Rating
Suspension System Heavy Duty Leaf Spring
Frame Construction Square Tube
Towing Style Lunette (Pintle Connection)
Landing Legs 4, One at Each Corner Beneath Trailer Deck
Brake System Air/Over/Hydraulic
Lights and Service Military Style 24 Volt System
Cargo Tie-Downs MIL-STD-209
Width 96"
Length 242.62"
Height 37"
Environmental Corrosion MIL-DTL-53072 (CARC Paint)
Prime Mover Towing Pintle Connection

Have we dotted this up enough yet?
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2017, 04:58:59 PM »
Don, when did you camo up the trailer and what was wrong with water tank on there?

Paint did come out nice.
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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2017, 07:01:43 PM »
Don, when did you camo up the trailer and what was wrong with water tank on there?

Paint did come out nice.
I played around spraying lines on it a couple years, or maybe a year ago, can't recall.

Nothing wrong with it with the water tank on it. Same water tank going right back on in fact, along with a fuel container.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2017, 07:24:08 PM »
Will one of those big square ones fit in there or just a few 55 drums?
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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2017, 08:42:08 PM »
Will one of those big square ones fit in there or just a few 55 drums?
Plan is 55 gal drums...2 or 3
inexpensive
Quick
did I mention inexpensive?
Need room for a 12 volt battery, a water pump, some plumbing and stuff...
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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2017, 09:10:09 PM »
Plenty of room for that. I thought about adding tanks under mine but that is another project not needed now.

Mount a battery in front where the can went and keep it up with a solar.
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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2017, 09:00:59 PM »
OK, back on this thing

Plan changed somewhat, as you will see in a little bit

I painted the tank with a whole bunch of two part epoxy paint sealer. Idea being it's hard, and should keep the interior dark to prevent algae from growing
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« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2017, 09:02:12 PM »
I painted over the trailer support legs as well to get a top coat over the carc paint

I'll make them OD or flat black or something
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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2017, 09:03:00 PM »
Managed to keep overspray to a minimum
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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2017, 09:05:17 PM »
Here's where I diverged from the original plan where I was going to siamese a couple 55 gal steel drums to hold the fuel.

This tank was on special at tractor supply company, so I splurged and got a ready made 100 gal fuel tank purpose made for this application
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« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2017, 09:06:19 PM »
Reduced from $369 down to $310, good enough!
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2017, 09:07:06 PM »
And I picked up another 12VDC electric fuel pump
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2017, 09:08:42 PM »
The vented fill cap went in first
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2017, 09:10:53 PM »
Then I ran into my first problem

The extendable fuel pick up tube was too long for this tank
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« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2017, 09:15:28 PM »
It is not just a simple matter of cutting off the end

You have to trim off both ends of the extendable part, but that sacrifices the o-ring seal

So I cut both ends and stretched some O-Rings over the inner pipe and shoved the business back together.
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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2017, 09:16:51 PM »
Then the pump was twisted into place and everything seemed to fit OK
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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2017, 09:18:04 PM »
Then I attached a fuel filter to the pump using a 3/4" NPT nipple
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« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2017, 09:21:01 PM »
This pump came with ten feet of 3/4" hose. I felt that was a bit too short, so I added another fourteen foot section to it. That should allow me to approach to a safe and stable position if, say, the excavator is semi submerged in some pond and be able to safely fuel it without sinking or tipping my trailer
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« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2017, 09:24:27 PM »
Next the hand nozzle went on and that was all she wrote for available time...Off to football practice.

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« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2017, 11:29:54 PM »
I like the paint. Ready made tank is a time saver too and 15gpm, sweet!

Have you thought about a cover for that trailer? Keep all that stuff out of direct weather. Looking at mine I was thinking about running a piece of metal along the rail, then add small posts to that. Bend some conduit into "U" shapes and your are done. Works great on my little trailer, but I mounted the posts right to it with bolts.
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« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2017, 11:34:48 PM »
Insert tac top photo please !


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« Reply #44 on: August 31, 2017, 07:48:42 AM »
I use the same pump setup on my tank.  I would recommend the swivel for the fuel line to save wear and tear on the hose at the filter end.  I learned that lesson and added a swivel while replacing the line.
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« Reply #45 on: August 31, 2017, 09:34:25 AM »
I like the paint. Ready made tank is a time saver too and 15gpm, sweet!

Have you thought about a cover for that trailer? Keep all that stuff out of direct weather. Looking at mine I was thinking about running a piece of metal along the rail, then add small posts to that. Bend some conduit into "U" shapes and your are done. Works great on my little trailer, but I mounted the posts right to it with bolts.
I like that idea JR!
I was just going to tie down a tarp across the stuff, but this looks a whole lot better.
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« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2017, 01:55:15 PM »
I just replaced the fuel pump on my toyhauler with that same style of pump, I became a pro at disassembly and "thinning/shaving" of the plastic pump gears after the fuel would cause them to swell and seize the pump solid. motor would sound like it was locked up and I got no flow, lots on the web about this issue. I even considered having a machine shop turn some custom billet gears to replace until I saw how much they wanted   :sad:.... I don't know how else you would keep this from happening...

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« Reply #47 on: August 31, 2017, 03:41:52 PM »
I just replaced the fuel pump on my toyhauler with that same style of pump, I became a pro at disassembly and "thinning/shaving" of the plastic pump gears after the fuel would cause them to swell and seize the pump solid. motor would sound like it was locked up and I got no flow, lots on the web about this issue. I even considered having a machine shop turn some custom billet gears to replace until I saw how much they wanted   :sad:.... I don't know how else you would keep this from happening...
Oh NO!

I own two of them!

I'm running a combination of lacquer thinner, sulfuric acid, paint remover in one tank...Sure hope the stuff doesn't melt those gears ;-)
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« Reply #48 on: August 31, 2017, 04:34:52 PM »
You left out acetone,  :grin:
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« Reply #49 on: August 31, 2017, 05:24:19 PM »
I just replaced the fuel pump on my toyhauler with that same style of pump, I became a pro at disassembly and "thinning/shaving" of the plastic pump gears after the fuel would cause them to swell and seize the pump solid. motor would sound like it was locked up and I got no flow, lots on the web about this issue. I even considered having a machine shop turn some custom billet gears to replace until I saw how much they wanted   :sad:.... I don't know how else you would keep this from happening...
When I "rebuilt" my toyhauler recently, I replaced the gears in the fuel pump, cleaned the tank, and use it at least every 2 months to keep the varnish out of the gears....last week I went to use it, and it was locked up again. urrr
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