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Offline Flyin6

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Weapons Rating, Rate a firearm using the Real-Man criteria
« on: August 02, 2015, 08:05:02 PM »
To keep things manageable and uniform, copy the following evaluation criteria for any firearm you wish to rate and assign the scores you feel are appropriate
If you have something to add, do a short writeup after the "official" test criteria and make your thoughts known
This topic is locked. When you copy and paste the test criteria, start your own thread. Afterward, a moderator will cut your test results and write-up and post that here. That way we keep this sticky focused only on the results

Objective information, (Score 0-5)
Manufacturer:(NS)
Model Number, Name: (NS)
Caliber:(NS)
Type weapon: Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Black Powder, Other(NS)
Action: Single shot, bolt action, semi-automatic, etc... (NS)
Material Weapon is made of:
Magazine capacity:
Barrel Length:
Rifling info if applicable:
Type sights:
Trigger pull:
Trigger Reset:
Type Safety:
Safety Features: Chamber loaded indicator, safety off indicator, etc
Weight:
Ergonomics/furniture:
Integral Rail System?
How many rounds did you shoot?(NS)
What ammunition did you test with?(NS)
Weather conditions for test:(NS)
Accessories that comes with the weapon as sold new:
Is there a palm swell or other part customizable like the latest gen Glocks or M&P's:Your hand size: (NS)
Stock information: (NS)

Subjective observations:(Score 0-10)
Handling, how does it fit and feel:
Experience any malfunctions? If so explain.
Ease of loading/reloading:
How did the various controls such as slide release or magazine release operate?
Did the weapon get dirty during the test, and if so any effect?
Comment about the sights:
Ease of field stripping and cleaning weapon:
What other weapon does it compare to such as M&P shield vs Glock 43?
What type holster did you use?
Anything you may have noticed such as "Big muzzle flash" or "very loud" or other observations?
Talk about the accuracy:
Do you feel the weapon is reliable?
Does it have any shortcomings you can detect?
Your overall feelings about the weapon
A one liner. You get to decide. Go or No-Go. You call it. the gun gets a score of 55 but jammed, then you can call it a No-Go.


Objective Score:______

Subjective Score:______

Go or No-Go:_________

Comments:


Now the List

S&W M&P 40
Objective Score: 42
Subjective Score: 65
Go or No-Go: Go

Springfield XDS 45
Objective Score: 50 (provided I put numbers in all the right places)
Subjective Score: 47  provided I put numbers in all the right places
Go or No-Go: GO
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Re: Weapons Rating, Rate a firearm using the Real-Man criteria
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 02:30:08 PM »
S&W M&P 40 Rating by Rasimmo

Objective information, (Score 0-5)
Manufacturer: Smith & Wesson

Model Number, Name: M&P

Caliber: 40

Type weapon: pistol

Action: semi-auto

Material Weapon is made of: 5 (polymer frame, stainless slide & barrel)

Magazine capacity: 4 (15 rounds)

Barrel Length: 5 (4.25", balanced well)

Rifling info if applicable: 4

Type sights: 3 (3 dot)

Trigger pull: 2 (mushy, then stiff)

Trigger Reset: 3 (not great, but not horrible)

Type Safety: 4 (ambi thumb)

Safety Features: 4 (Chamber loaded indicator, no safety off indicator)

Weight: 4 (24.25 oz no mag according to S&W)

Ergonomics/furniture: 4

Integral Rail System? Yes

How many rounds did you shoot? 250 each (fired 2 new identical guns)

What ammunition did you test with? Mag-tech fmj, Remington fmj, Winchester fmj, mag-tech guardian gold, hornady critical defense

Weather conditions for test: sunny, calm, HOT!

Accessories that comes with the weapon as sold new: just 2 mags on versions I bought

Is there a palm swell or other part customizable : yes (3 back strap options)

Your hand size: 3.75" across knuckles, 7.75" tip of middle finger to start of wrist, 3" trigger finger


Subjective observations:(Score 0-10)
Handling, how does it fit and feel: 8 (probably would be higher if somebody would not have left his extra back straps at home)

Experience any malfunctions? 10 (no malfunctions)

Ease of loading/reloading:10 (mag drops free, easy to reload without taking eyes off target, slide drops when new mag is put in)

How did the various controls such as slide release or magazine release operate? 10 (controls easy to access and work)

Did the weapon get dirty during the test, and if so any effect? No

Comment about the sights: 3 (functional at best, rear dots bigger than front, hard to focus on front, I lost it a few times which slowed
follow up shots)

Ease of field stripping and cleaning weapon: 10 (large takedown lever that just flips down 90 degrees)

What other weapon does it compare to such as M&P shield vs Glock 43? Glock 22 since everything gets compared to Glock anyway.

What type holster did you use? Cheap uncle mikes tactical (these will be mounted in my home so comfort not really an issue)

Anything you may have noticed such as "Big muzzle flash" or "very loud" or other observations? Nothing out of the ordinary.

Talk about the accuracy: 7 I shot about 4" 3 shot groups to try to check out accuracy. I could put 15 rounds all on a 8" target fairly
rapidly

Do you feel the weapon is reliable? Yes

Does it have any shortcomings you can detect? Trigger and sights (I will be fixing both)

Your overall feelings about the weapon: 7


End Results:

Objective Score: 42

Subjective Score: 65

Go or No-Go: Go
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!

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Re: Weapons Rating, Rate a firearm using the Real-Man criteria
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2015, 03:22:23 AM »
CHEVSILVER1500's XDS 45 Review


Objective information, (Score 0-5)

Manufacturer: Springfield Armory

Model Number, Name: XDS

Caliber: .45ACP

Type weapon: Pistol

Action: Semi

Material Weapon is made of: 5 (polymer frame, stainless slide)

Magazine capacity: 5. (5, 6, or 7 (comes with 5&6, part of current promotion they sent another 5 and a 7 rounder))

Barrel Length: 5 (3.3" making it nice for concealment)

Rifling info if applicable: 1:16 twist

Type sights: 4 (3 dot with front being fiber optic. Comes with more to swap colors)

Trigger pull: 4 (smooth just a little long)

Trigger Reset: 4

Type Safety: 5 (grip safety as well as trigger safety similar to glock)

Safety Features: 5 (Chamber loaded indicator, grip safety, trigger safety)

Weight: 5 (21.5oz empty)

Ergonomics/furniture: 5

Integral Rail System? 3 (yes but not sure what will fit on it)

How many rounds did you shoot? 30

What ammunition did you test with? Winchester white box 230gr fmj

Weather conditions for test: sunny, windy, 65ish

Accessories that comes with the weapon as sold new: holster, magazine holster, 5 & 6 round mags, 2 backstraps, lock.

Is there a palm swell or other part customizable like the latest gen Glocks or M&P's:Your hand size: interchangeable backstraps

Stock information: (NS)

Subjective observations:(Score 0-10)

Handling, how does it fit and feel: 9 (need to try out second backstraps)

Experience any malfunctions? 10 (none)If so explain.

Ease of loading/reloading: 10

How did the various controls such as slide release or magazine release operate? 10 easy to operate both slide release and mag
release

Did the weapon get dirty during the test, and if so any effect? No

Comment about the sights: easy to see fiber optic front

Ease of field stripping and cleaning weapon: 10

What other weapon does it compare to such as M&P shield vs Glock 43? Shield as I have both and compared side by side. Size is
almost the exact same

What type holster did you use? Paddle holster provided with XDS

Anything you may have noticed such as "Big muzzle flash" or "very loud" or other observations? Loud

Talk about the accuracy: slightly low but may be due to my grip with the current backstrap will switch and try again. Will post up
results when done

Do you feel the weapon is reliable? Yes

Does it have any shortcomings you can detect? None so far

Your overall feelings about the weapon. Love it so far.

A one liner. You get to decide. Go or No-Go. You call it. the gun gets a score of 55 but jammed, then you can call it a No-Go.


Objective Score: 50 (provided I put numbers in all the right places)

Subjective Score: 47  provided I put numbers in all the right places

Go or No-Go: GO
So, Bobby...being the calculating trained warrior NCO that you are.  Take the appropriate action, Execute!