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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #500 on: December 22, 2016, 05:54:24 PM »
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #501 on: February 20, 2017, 01:07:40 PM »
Plugged a few holes on the body, the big antenna and logo holes.

Used a copper plate behind the logo holes so the fill just filled. Attached to a bar and stuck it behind the fender.

Put a plate behind the antenna hole and used a magnet to hold it in, then tacked the holes. Filled the center with another plate so little fill is used.

Nice layer of etching primer showed a couple pin holes, so I followed up with body putty. 
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #502 on: February 20, 2017, 01:29:12 PM »
Welding to sheet metal is an art I am not great at, but make do.

Still have the 1 antenna hole (of 3) to go on the roof. Leaving front one for an, antenna and using a rubber plug for the other to run electrical.

I wanted to run to PNP today (1/2 price) but the rain is saying no. Wanted a 3 more bows for the interior roof. (glory hole is 2 feet over the top)

If the rain will give me a break I can get this running, then get the 1500 ready to sell. I just saw another go for 4500 on ebay that was 2 wheel drive and had more miles!
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #503 on: March 01, 2017, 01:58:43 AM »
Threw a little white primer on the welds and painted the drivers wheels. The stock caps look ok after a little massaging.

Found the right rear door is sprung, hinge pulled.

Youngest and I pulled the crank pulley, damper comes tomorrow as we had scout tonite.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #504 on: March 15, 2017, 03:16:56 AM »
Was cleaning the valley and my abb's were saying hello, so I got this from Summit; https://www.summitracing.com/parts/txn-3-700

Had a $25 coupon and found it for $269 on Carid, so with price matching, $242  :beercheers:
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #505 on: March 15, 2017, 08:58:22 AM »
Nice!
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #506 on: March 15, 2017, 10:34:20 AM »
JR, Sweet buy at a discount!

You seem to be getting around really good. Is you foot fully repaired and doing well?
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #507 on: March 15, 2017, 11:23:19 AM »
I have had my eye on one of those for sometime. Last night working made my mind up. It is also machine for a roller cam, but not sure I'm going there for a temp motor.

I am so much better, thanks. As for 100% no. Still have numbness on the right foot and have not regained the flexiblity I had nor muscle tone.

I am not a gym guy but now that the weather has turned the projects are here and should address the later.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #508 on: March 17, 2017, 11:47:19 PM »
This thing done get?

Sorry I've been AWOL

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #509 on: March 18, 2017, 12:04:58 AM »
Hey Lane, thought of you looking over the parts. I had some surgery which slowed me down but back up now.

Right now I am doing a little RR on the SBC as I clear up a couple things around here so I can drive it.

This will help out and just came in;
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #510 on: March 18, 2017, 08:25:30 AM »
^^^What is that, JR?
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #511 on: March 18, 2017, 09:33:04 AM »
appears to be an elevated, assisted horizontal motion device one uses on hard surfaces to glide under inoperable vehicles to examine leaks that will ever get fixed and parts that need to be but won't be replaced  :grin:

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #512 on: March 18, 2017, 10:12:45 AM »
appears to be an elevated, assisted horizontal motion device one uses on hard surfaces to glide under inoperable vehicles to examine leaks that will ever get fixed and parts that need to be but won't be replaced  :grin:

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #513 on: March 18, 2017, 12:03:10 PM »
appears to be an elevated, assisted horizontal motion device one uses on hard surfaces to glide under inoperable vehicles to examine leaks that will ever get fixed and parts that need to be but won't be replaced  :grin:

change the under to over and your close
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #514 on: March 18, 2017, 11:36:49 PM »
Well, broke the youngest in with pulling the cam today. First we finished the upper creeper ( http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=2761.new#new )

and the youngest gave it a thumbs UP.

Then he did pretty good pulling the lifters and I only had to help with 3 (which were a bare to get out).

Then we found even with pulling the AC cond the cam needed another inch. So I simply cut a center radiator support and will weld back when done.

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #515 on: March 18, 2017, 11:40:33 PM »
No pic of it but he got to do his first cam drop. Clean brake in the center was the result, he was happy.

Wish I had a nice roller cam for this since its machined for it. But this is a short term fix for more grunt that is ECM and valve train friendly.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #516 on: March 19, 2017, 04:33:34 PM »
JR,

What parts ya needin bud?

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #517 on: March 19, 2017, 06:32:12 PM »
I need time right now more than anything. Finally working on it again after dumping a few other projects and realigning others. I am getting this running now then bringing the motor in for the RR before it goes in.

Only thing I really need to source will be the upper themo neck like in post 473. I like that setup.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #518 on: March 21, 2017, 07:06:45 PM »
first number


second number


third number seems to be the correct one to the pic you posted

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #519 on: March 21, 2017, 09:14:30 PM »
Wow, your good. Think my vin is here somewhere too, but here is what I have now. And pretty much where I want to go.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #520 on: March 21, 2017, 09:16:40 PM »
SO from that looks like pic number 1.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #521 on: March 21, 2017, 11:33:28 PM »
So the top pic is yours now? What housing did i send you?

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #522 on: March 21, 2017, 11:48:26 PM »
The top pic is on the motor now, I didn't get a new one yet. I got a lower and other parts from you per the Doomsday build info.

The lower pic is the gen arm I have and shows the thermo going up, the direction I'm need hopefully.

I think it is part # 3914409 per an EBay listing.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #523 on: March 22, 2017, 10:01:33 AM »
Ok, ill get you a price

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #524 on: March 22, 2017, 11:09:36 AM »
Anyone have a GM 2500/3500 CV outer or the whole shaft? Looking to mod my engine stand and need that for my upgrade.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #525 on: March 22, 2017, 02:40:59 PM »
Pic number three is the one you have pictured. The fist pic i posted is not the same

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #526 on: March 22, 2017, 03:59:45 PM »
Hard to see the 3rd pic, but lets go with it.

Any options on neck size? Stock rad has a smaller neck but adapters are easy.

thx
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #527 on: March 22, 2017, 07:46:09 PM »





Boom. T-stat housing spec on the bottom pic.

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« Reply #528 on: March 22, 2017, 11:57:15 PM »
That will work.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #529 on: March 23, 2017, 06:39:57 PM »
$62.40 without shipping bud.

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« Reply #530 on: March 25, 2017, 12:33:02 AM »
$62.40 without shipping bud.

What is that part number?
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #531 on: March 25, 2017, 12:45:22 AM »
Been finishing up the garage clean. I had really let it get bad. I can see more floor, much of the table which I moved for better access with a couple other items.

Even leveled the table (3/4 to even out the garage slope) and added a 2x4 to the center as it had sagged in the center.

Most boxes under the table are on mover dolly's. Then I hit the little parts bin!

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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #532 on: March 25, 2017, 12:50:32 AM »
I can't explain the picture orientation but it works when blown up.

Got this far with the big SS nuts/bolts/screws/washers and a little of everything else. This little bit is going in the trash.
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« Reply #533 on: March 25, 2017, 12:59:40 AM »
With the help of a the kid across the street this 3/4 forged eye bolt found a home 25ft up.

Will use a cable to hold this end of the platform up.
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #534 on: March 25, 2017, 09:26:11 AM »
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« Reply #535 on: March 25, 2017, 03:12:18 PM »
That's a whole bowl of nutz


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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #536 on: March 25, 2017, 03:23:21 PM »
Yes, I believe I am,,,,,,,,,,,,

The second post  :embarrassed: working on Dons comment  :likebutton:
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« Reply #537 on: March 26, 2017, 10:29:30 PM »
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« Reply #538 on: March 27, 2017, 02:26:14 PM »
Looks like it to me.

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« Reply #539 on: March 27, 2017, 06:52:26 PM »
I have had that saved in my EBay list for awhile now. Is the part number the same or crossover?
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« Reply #540 on: March 29, 2017, 01:11:31 AM »
Anyway ordered the upper thermo housing so close to have all I need cept the engine mount and finalize the tranny (rebuild or not) and then I saw the the GM 6L90 transmission.

Has an internal PCM, tap shift and braking. Would need a couple sensors but worth a look at.

https://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/transmissions/automatic/6l80
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #541 on: March 29, 2017, 12:17:08 PM »
I would stick with something like a 47rh, non electric. And can handle the brute of the cummins. I mean, why mix a mechanical engine with electric trans. One more thing to go wrong in a  crap hits the fan situation

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« Reply #542 on: March 29, 2017, 12:23:29 PM »
Probably right after thinking it over a little more. Not building a 500hp pulling rig.

Back to reality,,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #543 on: March 29, 2017, 09:06:31 PM »
it's what the M715.9 got. it came from dodge that way. just make sure when you go to adjust the TV cable (assuming it's a PPump) that the center of the ball where the accel cable attaches and the back of the throttle bracket where the accel cable goes through it measures 5.00"..

and.. a 23 spline NP 205 will bolt right to it provided you have the 'race track 8' to 6 bolt round adapter and a 23 spline female coupler. along with the tcase shifter lever and bracket bolt to the trans. just have to make a rod long enough to reach the front of the shift rod. boom. 4wheel  drive.

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« Reply #544 on: March 30, 2017, 12:02:11 AM »
I still think I want to freshen up the tranny before it goes in. I have the 205 that came mated to the trans so I am good there.

I have so many parts now about all the is left is the mount, new turbo and probably injectors.

I have a VE and intend to keep the in tank pump since they are very reliable. I will cut an access though so the pump can be changed without tank removal.
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« Reply #545 on: March 30, 2017, 06:11:23 AM »
i know diesel isn't as corrosive as gas, but will that in take pump push enough fuel to the cummins for higher RPM operation? it doesn't get much more reliable than a block driven lift pump and a 1/2" fuel line coming straight from the tank..

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« Reply #546 on: April 01, 2017, 11:23:20 PM »
Keep thinking about using a used roller cam in this thing. Found a couple but people think they have gold. Anyone have anything?
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« Reply #547 on: April 23, 2017, 10:58:30 PM »
Well, settled om staying with the cam I have. A couple sizes up from stock but should still give me a little more umph.

So did some work on the tires/wheels. I found that 4 of the 5 still have the runflats, so something else to deal with.

Cleaned and mounted up the first one. No new O rings yet and for some reason this one is about a 1/2 inch to long. Cleaned it up, cut it and used super glue. Seemed to work OK but this is a learning experience so will redo them all later.

I used the new bead locks, which seem to be rubber horse flooring 3/4 think. Seems to push solid against the tires, but time will tell. I did change the hardware with SS locknuts and made sure a couple threads showed. I am a little concerned with the plate and think it should be SS also, why invite rust?

They seem to be a little loose so I may have to adjust the dia as they seem a little loose on the rim. They go in easy enough and I just needed to use a tire tool just a little.

I only used silicon, but think some use RTV? I used new cores and filled to 40psi.
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« Reply #548 on: April 23, 2017, 11:05:14 PM »
On the second tire I showed the boys a youtube video on removing the runflat and they were jazed. So I said lets do it! Only the youngest stuck around but we had fun and it was easy. I remember when Don tried to muscle his out so glad this worked.

Took longer to drag out the straps and tie it down. Had the youngest goop the tire up with soap, then hooked it up to the dmax. Pop and it was done.

Then for good measure he checked the H1 tire with the stock tires, he likes the size!
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Re: "SPARTAN" 1991 Suburban 2500 build and 6BT
« Reply #549 on: April 23, 2017, 11:19:57 PM »
On the second tire I had to do a little RR on the rim. Spent about 1/2 hr with a wire brush on a drill. Then some good ol rattle can etching primer and rustoleum 15min enamel paint. Not worried about the outside yet, but think powdercoating is in the future and maybe a rock ring.

O ring was in good shape and it got another good coat of pool silicone. A dab of antiseize on the threads and it went together after I stood on it to get a few threads going.

I got Porter Cable 20v impact about a week a go just for this. Lowes price matched it at $95 and I had the batteries, so GTG. It made short work of the nuts with the 330lbs tq.

Thought I had a picture of the finished setup, but no and now stored outside as this week is fence tearing down/building.
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