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Re: SquareD
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2014, 10:36:30 PM »
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nice work boss!!!! lotta elbow grease went into that....not to derail the thread but since you are now the resident rust buster and i am torn on how best to spend my money and prep the underbelly of my bed. So you know i wanna use the raptor liner as my final coat....so after seeing your use and results of the rust converter stuff but i also saw this stuff called rust destroyer from advanced protective products. what should i use? can i use both? which is best as a base for the raptor. I have just a bit a scale on the bed crossmembers and on the pumpkin. the bed belly side is very clean and barely any rust spots and scale...whats your thought big don corleonie?


Well, I like the rust converter.
It's a one stop shop
If you use a rust destroyer (remover/dissolver/dis-come-boob-u-lator) then you'll have to top coat that
So, I'd use the converter on the rusty spots, then top coat with something like a quality paint. I really like and use the heck out of the John Deere semi flat black called "Blitz." I know the gentleman who runs that paint program so I have detailed knowledge of it. Normally you would not be able to buy such a high quality paint so cheaply, however the make so much, you have the principle of "economies of scale kicking in.
Once I got the paint dried, I'd buy a bunch of paraffin wax, heat it up on the stove to liquefy it, then start brushing it on heavily everywhere
Novel approach, but cheap and it's just wax. Come spring get a bug sprayer full of kerosene, spray the old paraffin and hose it off...Done for the summer!
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« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2014, 10:37:10 PM »
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So the creeper side step was factory? Creepy...

No, it was some poorly designed and hillbillized aftermarket piece of junk intended for jap and kolean kars
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Re: SquareD
« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2014, 10:38:18 PM »
From Cudakidd53:

Don-

I can see you going either way on paint- seal it to encapsulate nostalgia of use/abuse. I can also see you painting it back to stock later too, as it'll look sharp, blend in as a local with pride in ownership, and last much longer than just clear coat.

Not feeling the flat black on the wheels though- you could have just painted the steel ones and saved a bunch of cash.

Penny trick is cool, and "old school" like the truck not to mention paying homage to a former "tucky" boy Abe! You could have a radiator shop run a pressure test for you to double check your repair and clean/repaint it prior to re-instillation.

Looking good!
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Re: SquareD
« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2014, 10:39:28 PM »
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I think you have half the members of this board out looking for a similar rig!

-TJ

You know...I'll bet you're right.
And when you think about it, if you buy a custom tune you're in for $700ish, right?
Do you know you can add about 100HP to this tractor engine for less than $50!?
Buy a fuel screw and a 3200 rpm spring and then tune the various screws on the fuel pump and enjoy all the new found power!
You can score one of these trucks under 5K like I just did and have a great truck, although your John Deere will ride better, you'll have a reliable truck all the same
For me it's sort of like a Huey
Hueys are all mechanical
Always start always fly al long as they get fuel. See the pics of that one in my book all shot up? Well, all those holes were discovered after landing, it flew along just fine!
Hueys just always worked. So when the Black Hawks came along, the Hueys went away for the most part. They still serve here and there, but mostly they're gone.
But when the Army retires the last Black Hawk in some distant year, and parks the think at Davis Mothan Air Force Base for permanent storage, the crew will be picked up and flown to the airport in in Huey!
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Re: SquareD
« Reply #104 on: September 20, 2014, 10:40:43 PM »
Today was cooling system day. Didn't quite get it done, but's it's 85%.

I thought I'd address the hole in the radiator before going on to priming the rust spots and spraying the lizard skin

Here's the start of the days activities:
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SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #105 on: September 21, 2014, 06:27:25 AM »
Part 1 took us from the purchase day in the summer of 2013 until 9-11, 2013 with tear downs and cleanups and essentially just some rust repair, but no significant building or modification. Here is Part 2 we will start to get more aggressive, still holding onto the idea that I would bring the truck up to spec on the warmed over chassis, but with no commitment to a total remake, which the truck eventually goes through.

I purchased a lot of stock parts to recondition the truck in this section which have since been removed/ changed/ or no longer apply as whole systems have given way to a more modern approach.

Let's continue to watch this thing evolve!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2014, 06:28:11 AM »
 won't be typing very much tonight, you'll see why shortly

The radiator comes out easily, it's a very mechanic friendly design. A couple of bolts on the top and two clips and with the rad hoses disconnected it lifts straight out with the fan in place!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #107 on: September 21, 2014, 06:28:51 AM »
You're left with this:
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #108 on: September 21, 2014, 06:30:13 AM »
The radiator repair took all of 5 minutes. I cleaned up he area with a brass brush, then cleaned the penny, then just soldered it into place...Simple

All Fixed:
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #109 on: September 21, 2014, 06:31:02 AM »
The radiator had some rust and corrosion, so I cleaned it up, and first applied the rust converter. Here it is healing the sheet metal bottom of the unit
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2014, 06:32:12 AM »
At this point I started the second cleaning of the engine compartment, this time with simple green and a couple hours of scrubbing
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2014, 06:33:22 AM »
Here is some of the rust converter doing its thing to the engine, brackets, bolts and whatever...
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2014, 06:34:41 AM »
I purchased a new water pump as added insurance along with a new clutch fan, so off came the fan mount and water pump
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #113 on: September 21, 2014, 06:36:23 AM »
That was about when I found a sharp edge...
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #114 on: September 21, 2014, 06:37:35 AM »
Clear the airway, stop the bleeding, treat for shock and continue the overhaul are the 4 lifesaving steps, right?

So with everything apart, time for more rust treatment, detailing and painting, and installing new parts
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #115 on: September 21, 2014, 06:38:56 AM »
The radiator cleaned up nicely and looks good with my favorite John Deere paint and gun lube...
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #118 on: September 21, 2014, 06:42:26 AM »
Then the upper radiator hose
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #119 on: September 21, 2014, 06:43:39 AM »
And that is where I ran out of time for the day

Plan to finish the cooling system tomorrow, do the battery and maybe prime the roof and hood

That lizard skin is just sitting there staring at me as well.
Today also saw the carpet and the headliner come in!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #120 on: September 21, 2014, 06:44:35 AM »
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Nice! That's a standard procedure for any country gentleman! Electrical or duck tape?


Actually some medical stuff
Once the bleeding stops, you can squirt some super glue on it while you're holding the parts in proper alignment, then I chase with this stuff some medic from the Rangers showed me. Works around sticky blood, so I used that. I'll survive, lots worse than that has happened to this old carcass
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #121 on: September 21, 2014, 06:46:30 AM »
From a member:

Right on par for the course, I find myself up at all hours of the night frantically trying to catch up once again. I may be deserving of disciplinary action at this point. I do want to say that I am pumped for you, this build, and concur with everything done to this ole classic thus far. These oldies hit a soft spot for me every time! I saw a mention of Dynamat and/or lizard skin for sound dampening. I can attest first hand to Dynamat as I covered everything but the roof panel on the interior of my truck and it does indeed make a drastic and noticeable difference in the reduction of road noise and improved the interior acoustics a bit. I thought about going as far as to lizard skin the underbelly to further reduce noise, so Ill be interested in seeing the use of that stuff and how well it works.

Carry on sir master of the builds!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #122 on: September 21, 2014, 06:47:28 AM »
From Dustoff35:

Excellent Progress. Just to put things in perspective, We picked up this truck exactly a week ago, on Sept 6.

At this rate, you will be back on the Duramax in no time.
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #123 on: September 21, 2014, 06:48:28 AM »
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Right on par for the course, I find myself up at all hours of the night frantically trying to catch up once again. I may be deserving of disciplinary action at this point. I do want to say that I am pumped for you, this build, and concur with everything done to this ole classic thus far. These oldies hit a soft spot for me every time! I saw a mention of Dynamat and/or lizard skin for sound dampening. I can attest first hand to Dynamat as I covered everything but the roof panel on the interior of my truck and it does indeed make a drastic and noticeable difference in the reduction of road noise and improved the interior acoustics a bit. I thought about going as far as to lizard skin the underbelly to further reduce noise, so Ill be interested in seeing the use of that stuff and how well it works.

Carry on sir master of the builds! 

The secret of the stuff in in harmonics, not blocking
You may have noticed from the build code breakdown I got from Chrysler (Thank you Chrysler), my truck was built with extra sound insulation. That translated into a physical piece of rubber with some felt on the back which resided beneath the rubber floor covering.
That was old technology, old thinking. Make it thick and make a lot of it.

Newer thinking is in controlling the harmonics (Vibrations) in materials. Essentially muting or destroying their ability to transfer sounds. That's what this new line of products does...Stops thin steel from ah' shakin'. Then the molecules near your brain case group aren't ah' shakin either and the world is a more balanced place...Probably accumulate a few hippie friends when they learn my planet killing pollutin' diesels are doing something earth friendly.
No worries, I have weeds that need pullin' I'll just tell those idiots you can eat that stuff and away they'll go! Come to think of it, I can sick the dogs on the
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #124 on: September 21, 2014, 06:49:27 AM »
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As his neighbor, slow him down just a little or he'll only be able to count to "9" if he continues to file rough edges with just his skin!

Don't need to count anymore
I hire people to do that
Besides the only countin' you need to do is, countin' the number of times you pulled the trigger
But I found a way to not even need to do that!
Load the last three as tracers
When you see the light
do a mag change and keep em' dancin'

I won't admit some grunt showed me that trick...

Oh and to you civies reading...Don't load your mags to 30...only civies do that.
Then one day when you shoulder your weapon, the mag will fall out of the well...Because you didn't seat it!
Yup
Load them to 28 instead and you'll be a mo-happier man...!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #125 on: September 21, 2014, 06:51:16 AM »
OK, still having trouble typing...darned finger didn't completely heal in 24 hours...
Anyway it was a mixed bag today. I was working all over the place but still got a lot done

First of all I wanted to get some more sealant on the cab floor. Pressure washing the engine compartment yesterday pumped some water in there, so that was job 1

I prepped the area then sprayed a layer of rubberized undercoating on it.
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« Reply #126 on: September 21, 2014, 06:52:16 AM »
That turned out pretty well and the stuff dried quickly, so it was on to the roof.

I picked up this DA sander which uses Velcro pads and attaches to a vacuum to suck up the dust it generates.
Using 80 grit I sanded the entire top
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« Reply #127 on: September 21, 2014, 06:58:10 AM »
Next I coated the sanded area with this gray primer

BTW, DO NOT buy this primer

Not that it is a bad product, no it's fine. But the nozzle is total junk concentrating the spray in a tiny area that makes for heavy and light areas in the painted area. I'm not concerned as the top will get a couple more layers of primer to cover up this blotchy mess
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #128 on: September 21, 2014, 06:59:47 AM »
In that last picture you can see that I finally removed those awful decals. I did have a bit of a problem scraping the Harley wings off, but with some sweet tea, I got through it!

Next I went after some of the window tint...Man that stuff is hard to get off!
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« Reply #129 on: September 21, 2014, 07:01:21 AM »
Next I got back on installing the cooling system hoses. The big holdup there is an improper fitting AutoZone hose. The lower hose they sold me was this trim to fit thing that was the same size end to end. The correct hose actually flares on the engine side to fit a larger diameter nipple. I ordered that hose (Again) hoping to get it tomorrow. In the mean time I replaced more elbows and lines with new hose and clamps.

Here's a little trick to keep those hose clamp ends from sticking out:
First open up the last slot in the stainless band
Then thread through a nylon zip tie
Pull the zip tie and in turn pull the clamp loose end back in tight. It also keeps anything from loosening up later on
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« Reply #131 on: September 21, 2014, 07:04:07 AM »
More to finish under the hood with the hoses, but that nasty bed was bothering me, so I sprayed it down with simple green and power washed it again
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« Reply #132 on: September 21, 2014, 07:05:26 AM »
While back there, I removed a tacky aluminum tailgate trim piece or protector. Anyway, it looks bad and apparently did not protect very well!
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« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2014, 07:09:27 AM »
I made one wet spot, and wouldn't ya know it, the little ranger found it!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2014, 07:10:51 AM »
Santa came early in the form of a box from Shawn at Great Lakes Off Road or GLO

His company manufactures this stuff. You have seen me use his diff covers in the past, and am using another one on the LML, SAS build, and now, I'll use two more on this Dodge's Dana 60 and 70.

The brackets are to adapt disc brakes to the rear, and the steel parts are U-Joint girdles. The factory uses flimsly steel straps all thin and liberal lookin'!. Sometimes the u-joints can walk out of the saddles, but not with these in place!
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« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2014, 07:13:38 AM »
And the caliper adapter plate/mount
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« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2014, 07:16:00 AM »
And those wonderful diff covers.
This stuff is art work!

Shawn (Same one on this thread) places the fill hole up high, well above the factory location. This little adjustment immediately allows you to run more fluid!
Brilliant!
Say it will blow seals or cause leaks???
NOSSIR! I have run one of his rear covers on my AAM 11.5 diff in my LML Duramax truck overfilled by half a gallon for a year now with nary a single spot of a leak!
His stuff works!
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #138 on: September 21, 2014, 07:17:09 AM »
From Ashley:

Love the way that interior is shaping up Don. Anxious to see the turnout of that lizard skin. I've never heard of it, so I'm looking forward to this write up.

The parts from Shawn look American built of course... Big and stout, just like we want them.
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2014, 07:18:34 AM »
Note: I am literally skipping dozens of other posts so that I can keep this all shorter and more focused.

Here's a link to the original write up:

http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/diesels/236098-12-valve-dodge-survival-truck-build-thread-46.html
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Re: SquareD Build Thread, Part 2: The build Continues...
« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2014, 07:20:36 AM »
I'll show a picture of the 2 gallon container, but no spraying yet.

I was concentrating on mechanical and made a lot of headway!

We'll get started with something easy.

In preparation of the differentials getting their fluid changed and cleaned out internally. I had to prep the differential covers for paint.

They were new, so only a rotary wire wheel to scratch them up, a good cleaning then I sprayed them with some acid etching primer.

I'll paint them the Lycoming gray in the next couple days...
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« Reply #142 on: September 21, 2014, 07:23:05 AM »
The super duper beefy one is going on the Dana 60 which is going into my LML D-Max

I finally got that pesky lower radiator hose. See why it is so special...just like me!
It gets a little bigger in girth at one end...just like me!
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« Reply #143 on: September 21, 2014, 07:24:24 AM »
Then I pulled the turbo inlet hose to get some working room and to inspect the turbo.
There was almost no play in that thing! I tell ya, this truck does not seem like it has any miles on it. Everything is coming off in a serviceable condition and only needs cleaning.
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« Reply #144 on: September 21, 2014, 07:25:24 AM »
Those compressor blades were not nicked like they look in the pic, I cleaned them up with WD-40 and they were as pretty as apple pie!

I now had access at the right side of the motor.
looking it over, I decided to pull the hard lines to clean and paint them, then replace the rubber and clamps
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« Reply #146 on: September 21, 2014, 07:29:17 AM »
While I was waiting for the paint to dry, I decided to secure the battery

After I was done, I still am not satisfied with just how that battery might be in a jumping situation, so I think I'll fab something up to hold it in there mo-better
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« Reply #147 on: September 21, 2014, 07:30:01 AM »
As part of house cleaning. I pulled this 20 year old piece of mud flap looking stuff that was isolating the engine compartment.
I can do much better than that, so I'll get something to replace that nasty collection of rubber molecules!
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« Reply #148 on: September 21, 2014, 07:30:51 AM »
Now you can actually see the ground!
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« Reply #149 on: September 21, 2014, 07:32:21 AM »
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Are you running any magnets with these diff covers?


Nossir, but that's a good idea

I bought a dozen flat neodymium magnets this summer to plaster all over my fuel lines to turn the diesel into plutonium and get a nuclear fire going in the combustion chambers, but never thought of using them to collect iron filings
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