Hide/bugout site build thread Part 1

[BobbyB]

Dang.

[Atkinsmatt]

Scheduling hunting trips yet?

[Flyin6]

Scheduling hunting trips yet?

Yup!

[cj7ox]

Don,

On the topic of your privy: my 4wd club built one on our property a couple years ago, and we keep a bag of lime for "flushing" after we go. We keep in just inside the outhouse, and just sprikle a cupful into the hole after mission complete. Works well, and the 25-30lb bag has lasted us a couple of years (moderate use). Just an ideer for your kit bag.

Nice looking property!

[Flyin6]

Don,

On the topic of your privy: my 4wd club built one on our property a couple years ago, and we keep a bag of lime for "flushing" after we go. We keep in just inside the outhouse, and just sprikle a cupful into the hole after mission complete. Works well, and the 25-30lb bag has lasted us a couple of years (moderate use). Just an ideer for your kit bag.

Nice looking property!

Cool

Sean,

We used that stuff for years in the Armee, do you guys still use it?

Of course, we soldiers over used it, like everything else, but it is a good idea. I like the charcoal ash idea. All the hippie web sites that talk about this sort of thing talk that up a lot. That was the basic plan, but Lime...Absolutely!

[cj7ox]

Don,

On the topic of your privy: my 4wd club built one on our property a couple years ago, and we keep a bag of lime for "flushing" after we go. We keep in just inside the outhouse, and just sprikle a cupful into the hole after mission complete. Works well, and the 25-30lb bag has lasted us a couple of years (moderate use). Just an ideer for your kit bag.

Nice looking property!

Cool

Sean,

We used that stuff for years in the Armee, do you guys still use it?

Of course, we soldiers over used it, like everything else, but it is a good idea. I like the charcoal ash idea. All the hippie web sites that talk about this sort of thing talk that up a lot. That was the basic plan, but Lime...Absolutely!

Don,

I've been fortunate to have deployed once there was some infrastructure in place, so we had KBR supported latrine/shower facilities during both my deployments. Otherwise, when in the field we made do (or doo-doo, LOL) using individually dug cat-holes, unless there was a decent porta-john handy. I never used lime in the Army. I guess I am spoiled! LOL

[Flyin6]

Well, you didn't miss anything...!

[Flyin6]

Meeting up with a builder tomorrow to discuss erecting a structure on the farm

Once I burn the house, I won't have much remaining and I need to get some more capability in there.

So going into the meeting I am looking at having a "Shed" like building built on skids. Perhaps later I will improve on that, but for now It will rest on blocks leveled properly and anchored in the ground with those big steel screws.

The building is a 16 X 32 with an eight foot wall and a 4 pitch roof with a few doors and windows all for $6200. They build the thing in panels, then assemble those into your building at the site.

These are the Carolina shed style buildings and I hope to have him modify this one somewhat. I want him to pitch up the roof to a 12/12 and then extend a 3/12 shed roof off to the front side. Put up a row of windows in that, then add in a floor so I can get a story and a half. The plan is to wall off a 12 foot section making a 12 X 16 room in which I want to place storage shelves, a washer and dryer, and a freezer. That will support the camper basically extending it's usefulness and utility.

That would be survival ready with a power source coupled with a cistern, which I am also building. After some time and development of the fields, a garden patch and a better pond, I will come back and build a nicer cabin with solar heated water, solar panels, and a wood burning boiler unit. I'll place that on an extensive basement that perhaps connects to other underground rooms.

Anyway, it all starts with this building...We'll see how it goes

[TexasRedNeck]

that sounds like a pretty good deal to me.  But things are a bit more expensive down here...at least until the oil crash

[JR]

Sounds like a good start. Won't you have a basement left over after the burn?

[KensAuto]

Sounds like a good start. Won't you have a basement left over after the burn?

Duh JR. I thought you had Don figured out by now...that's the future Jacuzzi/swimming hole. :)

[JR]

Or motorcycle parking,,,,,,,,,,,,

[stlaser]

Good point here, can you throw a roof on the basement & knock a hole in one side of it & call it a shed?

[KensAuto]

Shed/bunker. I like it.......Kinda surprised that that idea came from a hippy. ;P

[stlaser]

I didn't think JR was a hippy?!?

On a side note I had to visit the people's republic of boulder twice yesterday. I say twice because you can never visit the bmv once! ::) Even if it was their screw up that spelled my name wrong on the original license. Anyhow, it's apparent I don't fit in with the hippy crowd. Can't exactly put my finger on it but I really don't care to be in that environment they have created over there.....

[JR]

I am just thinking tatics here and use of space.

Show me a tie dye shirt and I will show how to start a fire.

[BobbyB]

Show me a tie dye shirt and I will

Nothing wrong with blending in. I went and visited the local college for a tour a few years ago. I wore a black fleece beanie, a jacket and had longish hair and a beard. People assumed I was attending the college and was asked for directions on a few occasions, much to my tour guide's amusement...

[cudakidd53]

The combination of patchouly oil and BO.........that's what's raising the hair on the back of your neck Shawn!  (That's the smell of Socialism and no accountability mixed together)

[stlaser]

Probably right about that! Smh.....

[Nate]

so heres a question don!

has the privy been completed and made it to the site yet? 

if your gonna be having folks out there doing work and what not, they will want somewhere to go.

[Flyin6]

so heres a question don!

has the privy been completed and made it to the site yet? 

if your gonna be having folks out there doing work and what not, they will want somewhere to go.

Nate,

Privy is almost complete. I need to hang the doors, install the vent pipe and shingles, then it is done.

Guess I should get on that...made a deal today for the "Shed" building!

Yippee!

[Flyin6]

So working with a local gentleman who has, to date built over 20,000 sheds, out buildings, mini barns and what have you all over this tri state area.

He has some nice well sorted out sheds to start with, so after talking with him several times, I knew we could strike a happy chord, so I ventured down there

The building pictured here is called a smokehouse shed and is about as simple as they get. This one is small

[Flyin6]

That one is probably an eight by ten or twelve with a 7 foot wall

The one he will build for me, starting tomorrow will be a 16 X 32!

So that will give me 512 square feet on the floor.

Now this one will not have that smallish 4:12 pitch roof...Nossir. Mine will have a 12:12 pitch roof so it will be 16 feet tall on the inside.

Why so much height?

So I can add in a second floor, that's why!

We will place 5 30 X 39 windows around the various walls, two 9-light steel doors, an eight foot wide barn door on one end, and two more 30 X 39 windows in the gable ends to light the second story.

[Flyin6]

So I visited the assembly area where these things are constructed. Mike builds them in panels, which he carts to the job site, then assembles them into completed structures

[Flyin6]

He has standard colors, however my building is getting the exact colors as the privy I built

[Flyin6]

He had some completed buildings sitting on the lot which I toured. The biggest one is a bunch smaller than the one I will be getting

[Flyin6]

And yes, if you were wondering, Ranger will be getting one of the mutt-houses!

So, we ventured over to my property, about 15 miles away and sited the building. It will be going in about where the tractor is sitting right now

[Flyin6]

Got some four wheeling in! And once again that terrific Grizzly Locker Tate supplied me pushed us right through all that gooey mud

[Nate]

we can obviously see that there has not been any police call being conducted..........SMH........pilots!

;D

[Flyin6]

Mike had a ton of interest in the barn and in the stack of logs inside which I thought was a corral of sorts.

He examined everything for some time and told me something I had not realized. He thinks the barn is between 75-100 years old, and says the barn wood is in pretty good condition (Valuable!) But what he said about the Corral has me thinking. He thinks there is a possibility that it was actually an earlier log house built around 150 years ago. He mused that after the thing hit its useful lifespan they simply erected the current barn around it using is as a central support and a corral.

He thought if I would carefully number and catalog the logs, I could sell the structure for a pretty penny. He and I are going to look into that possibility

[Flyin6]

We saw some monster deer when we first drove in. They are easy to spot now since the fields are cut. As you can see, the fields remain in pretty good condition. I have been cutting more of mother nature back during the cool months to get ahead and keep the battery charged in Mr. Deere

[Nate]

now theres a secret we didn't know about.  that's really cool, sounds like you may need to get a hold of the barnwood builders and have them come take a look.

[Flyin6]

now theres a secret we didn't know about.  that's really cool, sounds like you may need to get a hold of the barnwood builders and have them come take a look.

Yea, need someone with knowledge and $$$$

Can you hear the sound?? Sell the barn...sell the barn...se

[Flyin6]

BTW, this is what 16 wide looks like inside, but that is only about a 5:12 pitch roof in this shot

[JR]

That barn is cool. Even better if you get something out of it vs using it for a bon fire!

Cmax looks right at home. Did you have the new bike out there yet?

Friend of mine did the same with a shed in his backyard. Made a 2nd floor and stores models up there.

Also, if you can a sliding door works SO much better on big doors. I have a 4ft one on my little 10x12 and never having to worry about clearance is a godsend.

[Flyin6]

That barn is cool. Even better if you get something out of it vs using it for a bon fire!

Cmax looks right at home. Did you have the new bike out there yet?

Friend of mine did the same with a shed in his backyard. Made a 2nd floor and stores models up there.

Also, if you can a sliding door works SO much better on big doors. I have a 4ft one on my little 10x12 and never having to worry about clearance is a godsend.

Haven't had the Triumph out there, but the DR has already crashed there!

I just might line the inside of the shed with the barn wood. Sure make for a cool look! If not the whole thing, then at least that 12 X 16 room I plan to wall off on one end

[Atkinsmatt]

Great idea on the sliding doors.  Also don't have to worry about the doors sagging.

[stlaser]

The log cabin inside the barn is very interesting. Guessing your buddy is right as I've never saw anything like that before.

[Nate]

it almost looked like a corn crib instead of a cabin?

[stlaser]

If that was the case then what did they have between logs to keep air moving yet not allow corn cobs to slip thru?

[Flyin6]

I've seen a guy take something almost exactly like that and turn it into a home.

He broke it down then pressure blasted everything and removed the old nails, then reassembled it on a foundation. He tacked chicken wire in between the logs, then chinked the area with mortar. The result was a great looking home, I was surprised

[Flyin6]

The as delivered structure will not have the dividing wall or the second floor. I will add in those myself. I was working on a budget and the shell is about what I could afford. Depending on weather it might not take all too long, however next week is going to be snowy and very cold, so probably no cigar until the week after. Maybe have it up early in March.

[stlaser]

You may have stated this already however is this just a large pressure treated base (say like 4x4 or 4x6 timbers or possibly steel? The way HD has them locally) or are you putting down some sort of foundation under it?

[Flyin6]

You may have stated this already however is this just a large pressure treated base (say like 4x4 or 4x6 timbers or possibly steel? The way HD has them locally) or are you putting down some sort of foundation under it?

I'm going to grade the area some, then set the building onto blocks. It will be built on 4X4 or 4X6 skids. The building requires three longitudinal beams. Mike builds his with 4. This one, we are upgrading to five! That means the building will be sitting on blocks on five points across its width and every 8 feet along its long axis. We did that to decrease the ground pressure of each column to prevent it from settling into the ground too much.

This is all I can afford, so it is what it is. I can say, there are thousands of buildings in this region constructed this way. Would it stand up against a tornado or high winds? Well, would a regular house? This thing was very affordable and gets me in there with tool storage, a lockable area, a washer/dryer and frig along with a place to repair, set up a wood shop to continue to build out the property. The second floor will be emergency sleeping area and added storage

[stlaser]

Copy, we had more freezing & thawing up North than you boys do. However, what I did a couple of times was used a post hole auger 8" on 3pt tractor & bored holes in the ground 3.5' deep then filled them with concrete or sac crete (whatever is available). This is almost as cost effective as your cinder blocks & 3x better in the long run. Just an option, but I had great success doing it this way.

A $300 investment in 3pt auger might be good anyhow with the stuff you plan on building down there. I think I paid $250 for mine a few years back. I stopped into a farm store this time of year & worked manager over on the shelf stock. Told him no one was going to be buying that unit for several months & he agreed

[Flyin6]

Copy, we had more freezing & thawing up North than you boys do. However, what I did a couple of times was used a post hole auger 8" on 3pt tractor & bored holes in the ground 3.5' deep then filled them with concrete or sac crete (whatever is available). This is almost as cost effective as your cinder blocks & 3x better in the long run. Just an option, but I had great success doing it this way.

I can get a 6X6 post piers put in for another $1000, and I am tempted, but I just am not there budget wise. I had $7700 and spent $7700!

[stlaser]

Ok, more questions? You said washer / dryer & fridge? I assume you have a well & septic & electricity on property or are those all needed improvements?

[Sammconn]

it almost looked like a corn crib instead of a cabin?

This was my first thought also.
But not sure on how it would hold the cobs as well.
In any case, it's a pretty cool old building and a match would be tragic.

[stlaser]

Other thought is maybe it was used for tobacco? Corn isn't that popular in the tuk where as tobacco always has been. My BIL runs 400 head of cattle over near Louisville & a couple of his barns were solely for drying tobacco......

[BobbyB]

I just might line the inside of the shed with the barn wood. Sure make for a cool look!

One of the local Mennonite families I buy fresh eggs from did something similar to that. Took the wood from an old school that was being torn down, the father cleaned it up, and put it inside their house. It looks pretty good.