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Re: Ma Boyz! Get Some!
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 11:26:25 AM »
i would have to agree with the litle picture comment below the video
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 11:50:58 AM »
Awesome!

Mayhem, chaos and destruction....my work here is done. Ha!

That was awesome!

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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 02:12:46 PM »
I think that was actually one of Dillons contract birds flying a demo with twin GAU-17's

But the unit I was with actually had those aircraft...with those guns

In the Stan I flew a Super Huey with two of those mounted up, with 4 times the ammo of that little bird.
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Re: Ma Boyz! Get Some!
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 02:40:46 PM »
That is how justice is delivered.  An available option is to set their buddies rags on fire with hot brass.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2015, 02:41:31 PM »
so the little red dots flying away from the target that looks like an angry cloud of red flies; was that the tracers ricocheting off?
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2015, 04:02:24 PM »
yes tate, that is ricocheting brass
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2015, 04:19:02 PM »
Nasty looking hornet's nest. wouldn't want to be on the wrong end.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2015, 09:08:12 PM »
so the little red dots flying away from the target that looks like an angry cloud of red flies; was that the tracers ricocheting off?
Tate, every 5th round is a tracer...There is actually five times as many bullets coming out of those guns than you are seeing.
GAU=17's have variable rates of fire. When in a certain Armee unit we had our guns set to go to 2500 rounds per minute, then after 1 second speed up to 4000 rounds per second, then to prevent the belt from kinking, when you let off the trigger the gun would slow to 2500 RPM for one second, then shut off.

That made our guns have a very distinctive sound signature. Other guys like my aircraft when I was playing around in the Stan were set to a straight up 3000RPM. But every once in awhile you'd hear the burrrr...BURRRRRRRRRR...Burrrr
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2015, 09:29:42 PM »
I'd live to hear that in person. The sound on video is awesome


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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2015, 10:29:41 PM »
dont get me wrong, dons boys were good and were loved when received.  this is the bad boy that I love. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvIJvPj_pjE

in real life, you will see and hear the rounds impact before you hear the actual firing from the gun.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2015, 11:02:40 PM »
I always love seeing videos of THAT gun and the plane that holds it.
I'd really love to see it in person from the right end.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2015, 08:40:29 AM »
Concur Nate

We didn't have a helo big enough to carry that demon possessed gun. That sound would wake me from a dead sleep...
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2015, 09:07:12 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2015, 09:10:49 AM »
That is a sound of freedom.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2015, 10:10:59 PM »
The A-10.  Probably my all time favorite piece of military hardware.  They can take a lickin and keep on tickin.  What are they, triple redundant flight controls?

I thought this was a great picture

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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2015, 11:54:27 PM »
The A-10.  Probably my all time favorite piece of military hardware.  They can take a lickin and keep on tickin.  What are they, triple redundant flight controls?

I thought this was a great picture



I've seen that one before, just love it. I think with the one I saw was the A-10.
Picture title went something along the line of "The GUN, and the PLANE"
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2015, 08:03:40 AM »
The plane IS the gun
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2015, 11:41:25 PM »
I think I heard they had to watch the burst time with this bad boy. Something with low speed and actually causing stall conditions?

Or am I thinking of another one? Just can't fathom a bigger gun on a plane, with this king of fire rate.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2015, 12:20:59 AM »
Ive heard the same thing, but D should be able to confirm or deny.
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2015, 05:13:06 PM »
Ive heard the same thing, but D should be able to confirm or deny.
Yea, they did/do have gas ingestion problems, we all do.

So back before Desert Storm, we ran with this wire screen in front of those big lycomings on the hook. Then we started firing "Slap" ammo
You can't buy it, so don't bother
7.62 cartridge with a sabot and a 5.56 bullet leaving the muzzle at near light speed. Little 5.56, but coming at ya in a cloud. Some 4000 per minute. 7.62 mini would bounce off some armored vehicles, but slap fired close in like we sometimes get would set a light armored vehicle like a BMP or BRDM on fire.
Had IR tracers so you didn't even know you were about to die
Cool stuff
Anyway the little sabot plastic parts would get through the screens, so as we is ah chewing on haji, the cartridge parts are ah-chewin on my motors
Lycoming engines will do a lot of things. But eating cartridge parts would not be among the things those engines do well...
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2015, 09:56:35 PM »
Don, not to be argumentative, because your point is well taken. I have seen a few SLAP rounds for sale. but at $30 a pop no one is going to amass a real big collection of them.  More frequently I have seen some components for sale, but again, prohibitively expensive.  I hear that they are very inaccurate,but I guess if you are discharging them at a cyclic rate of 4000, its not a precision exercise anyway.  TX is one of the states that still allows their purchase (AP) as long as they are not handgun caliber.

I'm a bigger fan of the Nammo Raufuss Mk211 rounds, but those, are made of Unobtainium unfortunately.

Anyway, back to your story....what was the solution for using those rounds in your helo? Or did you just return it to the ground crew and shrug as you walked away?
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2015, 09:25:28 AM »
Anyway, back to your story....what was the solution for using those rounds in your helo? Or did you just return it to the ground crew and shrug as you walked away?

An overlay of finer mesh screen

Which

Worked in the desert

But then one day Don is taking off from Ft Campbell in an IFR (In the clouds) flight down to Savannah. On the climbout around 7,000 we start to ice up. OK, not a huge deal, but those huge air breathers in the back were icing up way-mo faster than anything else, and when the aircraft lost power and was not able to make it to 9,000, and I glanced down at the ITT gages (Inlet turbine temperature), they were super high, like approaching 900 degrees! BTW 930 is the max and only for 30 seconds.

So I had to declare an emergency and request minimum vectoring altitude, down to like 2,700 and make an emergency landing in Nashville. We had maybe 4" of ice on those inlet screens.

Stopping Slap ingestion: Good
Flying in icing: Bad
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