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3+3 2500
« on: May 01, 2017, 06:48:17 AM »
just gonna leave this here for a teaser since i don't have any pics yet.. but i've found one. made rj deal yesterday so it's 50% mine. taking some $$ today/tomorrow and figuring out a way to get it away this week.

1988 chevy cheyenne 3+3 r2500. original owner. straight as an arrow with no rust apart from minor surface oxidation under the paint. seized 350 (no matter.. you know what's going in it  :cool:) 14 bolt of unknown gearing. and dry as a bone.

once i drop some $$ off, i'll get some more pics. it's less than 1 mile from my new house.

plan is to far it apart, blasted and epoxy primed. then just let it sit until i get a chance to actually start on it after his house reno and wedding. that's eating up time and $$ like a teenager (from what my parents have told me..) hahaha

and i know i know.. pics or it didn't  happen. they're coming.

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 12:04:55 PM »
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 12:11:28 PM »
dually? 4x4?

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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 01:46:15 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 08:41:13 PM »
ask.. and ye shall receive





only spot of rust i could find so far.. bottom of passenger side B pillar



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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2017, 10:57:08 AM »
Nice. A buddy of mine has one of those, 4x4, with the bed removed and frame bobbed. It is his off-road rig. Sits on 40" tires, with lockers front and rear.
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2017, 02:45:39 PM »
I think that a certain canine might be a little tee'd off when his shade is suddenly moved.
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2017, 06:17:18 PM »
Gotta convert to Dually jus sayin


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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 08:46:38 PM »
a dually for me would be impractical. too wide.. and added weight. i won't pull anything that would need that anyway. plus.. crew cab short bed square body on 20s and 35/37s will look killer.. IMHO.

it'll most likely end up with helper springs and bags (load leveling..) for pulling and better unloaded ride quality. haven't made any decisions on front end yet.. but 4 link and coils would be awesome.  would ride like a new F250..

who knows.. it's just bones at the moment. it'll be a minute before anything major happens to it. just wanted to actually prove i found one. lol

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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 01:42:25 PM »
a dually for me would be impractical. too wide.. and added weight. i won't pull anything that would need that anyway. plus.. crew cab short bed square body on 20s and 35/37s will look killer.. IMHO.

it'll most likely end up with helper springs and bags (load leveling..) for pulling and better unloaded ride quality. haven't made any decisions on front end yet.. but 4 link and coils would be awesome.  would ride like a new F250..

who knows.. it's just bones at the moment. it'll be a minute before anything major happens to it. just wanted to actually prove i found one. lol

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 05:11:50 PM »
My friend's dad has a 3+3 CC Dually. Question tho... what does the 3+3 refer do? The seating configuration?
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2017, 06:00:09 PM »
My friend's dad has a 3+3 CC Dually. Question tho... what does the 3+3 refer do? The seating configuration?

I'm pretty sure it is....3 on a bench plus 3 on the second bench. There weren't the # of 4 door pick-ups back then as today. And most today have buckets up front.

I do miss the bench seat in my pickups for riding with the wife.  :cheesy:

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2017, 07:25:08 PM »
Gotta convert to Dually jus sayin


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Duallys are overrated imo.......
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2017, 08:41:40 PM »
Gotta convert to Dually jus sayin


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Duallys are overrated imo.......

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2017, 09:27:52 PM »
Gotta convert to Dually jus sayin


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Duallys are overrated imo.......

he was just saying what everyone was thinking..

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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2017, 09:33:54 PM »
I've had both, unless it's a flatbed work truck (cab & chassis) for hauling heavy whatever I see no use for them. My single rear wheel one ton pulled my 36' enclosed GN just fine. I suppose if you're pulling a 25k trailer then it's a must as well. But for the average guy it's just more expensive to operate.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2017, 10:16:41 PM »
im with you there. hoping this truck is going to be a pretty grocery getting as well as a pretty sweet riding and heavy pulling truck (when needed)

basically.. a brand new cummins powered 89 chevy 3+3.

we shall see..

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2017, 10:49:18 PM »
Gotta convert to Dually jus sayin


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Duallys are overrated imo.......

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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2017, 01:41:45 PM »
Who needs a "dooley" when you can tow 187 tons of logs with a 350 V8 3/4 ton   :popcorn:

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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2017, 02:10:03 PM »
Funny that they never went over 4mph........I guess breaks might be the issue?
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« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2017, 03:44:58 PM »
Duallies are overrated. They just made better leaf springs back then.
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« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2017, 03:46:57 PM »
Ken, is that a recent picture of you moving H in for retirement? :popcorn:
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2017, 03:56:02 PM »
Naw, the a** on the left conned me into moving his home for 100 bucks, then didn't pay me. We spent most of the day digging it out and installing several axles...But, it was still fun.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2017, 02:40:19 AM »
That frame looked like toast pulling those logs. Brakes?

That 3+3 will have a 1/4 wall frame. Gonna bob it off for the short bed?

I always wanted an old chevy extended cab which they never made. Saw a couple customs though and still want one!
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2017, 08:57:30 AM »
Naw, the a** on the left conned me into moving his home for 100 bucks, then didn't pay me. We spent most of the day digging it out and installing several axles...But, it was still fun.

Is the guy on the left related?
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« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2017, 02:35:01 PM »
Naw, the a** on the left conned me into moving his home for 100 bucks, then didn't pay me. We spent most of the day digging it out and installing several axles...But, it was still fun.

Is the guy on the left related?
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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2017, 04:55:51 PM »
There goes another good thread. Dang hippie s.

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« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2017, 06:08:21 PM »
So that's a resounding no?
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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2017, 09:32:17 AM »
the plan is to bob 14" out of it, put a short box on it, either 4link or leaf spring a front dana 60 (unsure of drop yet, since i will most likely decide that once drivetrain is picked out) with some 18/20s and 35s. going for a brand new old truck look.

we will see once things  start moving.
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2017, 10:46:48 PM »
so i know this  build is a little ways off yet, but i'm trying to find a direction with it.

one tons. yes.
cummins (either 2nd gen 12 valve ppump or common rail and auto) yes
short bed. yes
leather interior. yes.
35"-37s. yes.

BUT.. the question remains with the front axle/suspension.

do i either
A. wait for a unicorn 79 f350 HP kingpin dana 60 with leaves.
B same axle with long arms and coils
C. Mid 90s F350 ball joint 60 (8x6.5 lugs) with either option A or B
or
D. stick with basically stock 1 ton chevy (or first gen cummins) PSD dana 60 and leaves (simplest)

i suppose i could always do something silly like 99+ f250/350 front and rear too.. but that just messes up wheel choices i suppose. (just gets away from the 'period' and moves into the 8x170)

leaves wouldn't be terrible.. mainly bc they would be alcans. but.. can't say it wouldn't be cool to have a coil sprung, long arm crew cab square body cummins

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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2017, 12:00:46 AM »
I don't think the ford 60 kingpin is that hard to find. See em on ebay and CL all the time.

Ball joints sound like they get a bad rep. Didn't know much about em until I read up a little.

Ppump, stay away from electronics.
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2017, 12:56:15 AM »
i know i know about the electronics. but i want to have all the modern day amenities. and a common rail would fit the bill 100%. easily tunable. quieter. remote start. the works.

but.. a nicely polished 12 valve sitting under the hood would be super clean. and awesome. and did i mention the sound?? hahah

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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2017, 11:53:03 AM »
If you can get a hold of Norm I believe he's got some 78-79 ford HP housings laying around
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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2017, 05:25:22 PM »
If you need norms cell pm me....
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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2017, 06:37:15 PM »
If you need norms cell pm me....

ohh he's on speed dial. hahah

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« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2017, 07:01:10 PM »
That's the only thing that happens with speed involving Norm because I guarantee any conversation with him will not be speedy.....
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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2017, 07:56:04 PM »
He has been low key lately, unhappy about something?
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« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2017, 08:01:10 PM »
I think he's just been busy, takes him several days to answer a text past few months.
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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2017, 01:24:46 PM »
i officially have possession of the title to the '89. just been waiting on the duplicate to come back from DMV (i took the form to original owner and helped him fill it out hahah) going to hopefully get it off relatively soon. and when i get back from ohio (NFL HOF gig) ill figure out how to get it to the shop and start some disassembly/collection of a short bed from somewhere so i can start taking measurements for bobbing the bed.


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« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2019, 07:22:35 PM »
Let’s bring another back from the dead!!!

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« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2019, 07:25:19 PM »
man this one was awhile ago too! fortunately i have some pics to show as well..

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« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2019, 07:28:59 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2019, 07:32:30 PM »
man it’s going to take awhile to upload these pics.. hahah

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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2019, 07:53:16 PM »
Try getting em down to around 1200, much easier to load. Pics are great, but not framing quality :azn:
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« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2019, 07:58:21 PM »
I'd 3 link a Chevy Dana 60 front. 35-37" rubber won't require much lift. No real need for the reverse rotation housing. Unless your going to use a more modern drivers drop transfer case.

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« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2019, 08:36:33 PM »
I'm guessing he's already done Norm.

The best way to do pics is upload on Imgur, then transfer here. Takes up less site space as well (altho the boss doesn't seem to care according to how many terabytes he uses. lol).
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« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2019, 08:42:43 PM »
Agree with Ken, I use imgur
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« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2019, 09:00:08 PM »
i have a chevy dana 60 i’m working on getting back together at the moment. crossover/ hi steer with 4” lift. somewhere between 35” and 37” worth of nitto G2s will go under it. completely rebuilt 6 bolt round NP205 with all the goodies. just found my drivetrain..  :laugh:

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« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2019, 09:44:15 PM »
what i started with. 6 bolt round NP205 32 spline long input. had already been rebuilt with new bearings and seals.





so of course i completely dismantle it and..



sand blast all the paint off. wrong color. hahah

now with that pesky black out of the way, time to get back on track

self etching primer


massey ferguson gray for utilitarian as well as aesthetic purposes. will go well with what was planned..


SRW dana 60 on the cheap (will soon find out why..)


big box of goodies from a buddy in CA


bling on the 205








female/female 29 spline coupler for the.. trans  :beercheers:


nearly finally shot of the rear (sans E brake)


forgot to order a 32 spline front output shaft.. so back apart it came to swap ofer and reinstall


clearance for twin stick cables and e brake disk.. that was a close one




front done with new 32 spline output and drive flange, adjustable shift rail detents and twin stick rails


tapped diff housing for breather


and customizing a custom part. needed a vent hole for the 205 since the old one will me directly under the E brake mechanism and no longer a viable source. this is the plug built for the speedo gear block off.




cleaned and painted knuckles


and hubs


speedo/tapped vent plug and VSS machined hole in output bearing housing


used to be a stabilizer shock there.. no more




i did this color combo.. what do y’all think?


vents




and now the moment i’ve been waiting for.. unveiling the heart of this beast. been a year long search and some real close calls with some. but the wait is over and (fingers crossed) worth it.

2007 LBZ with supposedly 160k on the clock. 2wd 6 speed allison at the moment but will soon be 4wd thanks to some clever negotiation and good luck. took a good 5 speed 4wd allison from same seller to swap out output housings and make the 6 a 4wd and 5 a 2wd (he has a 2wd LLY dually he wants a spare for and i needed a 4wd 6 speed. all should be corrected and returned to him shortly..







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« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2019, 09:46:49 PM »
I'm guessing he's already done Norm.

The best way to do pics is upload on Imgur, then transfer here. Takes up less site space as well (altho the boss doesn't seem to care according to how many terabytes he uses. lol).
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