Author Topic: Hide Site/Bug-out location Construction, Part 5 (Read 134302 times)

JR · « **Reply #450 on:** February 27, 2018, 12:05:04 AM »

Looks like Spud is going to work out fine. An overflow of some type would be good for sure. Maybe something more than just dirt for the levee also.

OSB hates water. It will shed off some but it gets soft when soaked. Maybe spray some sealer on there until its covered. I had my upstairs flood during construction with over an inch of water years back. Got it off fast (drilled holes) and it is still solid and flat.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #451 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:18:20 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on February 26, 2018, 11:41:18 PM

How long do you give it till that pond water clears up? Is there enough water flow to support fish?

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Well, plenty there now to support fish, either pond. More than an acre/foot in the big one, I'd guess

It will take some time to clear up. With all the digging it will see today and next week, it will look bad for some time I'd imagine.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #452 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:20:15 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on February 26, 2018, 11:48:29 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Then when I went to check on the ponds, I was shocked to discover both were completely full and were running out over the levees. One levee was getting close to failure, so much had washed away, so I got to work patching up the hole, then built up the thing a foot higher.

Don, install an 8” tile (pvc pipe works fine too) at the height you want the water to crest at & run it through the dike. Then it will stop eroding the dike & overflowing the berm.

I will Shawn, but first, I need to back dig the pond some to get the level down. I can't trench anything now or I'll start a flood, its too full.

Sammconn · « **Reply #453 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:23:30 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on February 26, 2018, 11:48:29 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 26, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Then when I went to check on the ponds, I was shocked to discover both were completely full and were running out over the levees. One levee was getting close to failure, so much had washed away, so I got to work patching up the hole, then built up the thing a foot higher.

Don, install an 8” tile (pvc pipe works fine too) at the height you want the water to crest at & run it through the dike. Then it will stop eroding the dike & overflowing the berm.

^^This.

And depending on volume, you may need more than one.

stlaser · « **Reply #454 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:37:53 AM »

My old pond NE IN with quite a bit of rainfall (lots of lake effect precipitation, Lake Michigan & Erie) was 3.5 acres & on average probably 15’ deep (deepest was close to 30’) across the acreage. We had a 10” on ours & it never had an issue. The pipe that went thru the dike was about 5’ below crest. Then it came thru about 5’ into pond side & had a 90 push on pvc fitting with gaskets in it that allowed the vertical section to get pushed back and forth when it froze over in the winter. Come spring I would adjust it back to level I wanted the pond at for the year. Worked really well and was not my design.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #455 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:34:23 PM »

Had some help today, and man, do the results show it!
Keith showed up and worked the whole day long on a couple different things. The main emphasis was the overflowing pond, but we started with applying a layer of deck paint to the floor of the soon to be installed garden shed walls.

Keith trimmed off the piece of OSB that was hanging off one side that I had not trimmed back in December when I built it. Right after that I got busy, which led to a very cold month, then the knee in just, and now its the end of Feb and I am just now coming out of all of that stuff

Flyin6 · « **Reply #456 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:36:44 PM »

Here's the purpose made deck paint. Luckily when I showed up to purchase the stuff, they had an unpurchased recently mixed can which was an awful Lima bean green color.
I had them turn that into a red oxide brown which was acceptable I thought

Flyin6 · « **Reply #457 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:39:24 PM »

It took the whole gallon to do one coat. In my view it should have gotten two coats, but I am thinking of double sheeting the floor since there will be a one ton tractor resting on it, so this surface is really just half of the floor. I'll paint that newer floor as well, but this in between layer will be protected to some extent.
First pic is freshly applied, the second some 6 hours later on

Flyin6 · « **Reply #458 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:41:41 PM »

OK, on to the pond project. But remember the 1st axiom of work?

1. To work, one must first have to work, just to be able to work.

Well the batteries in Chief were on their last leg, so we had to drive Chief down there and jump Chief. With power, it immediately roared to life

Flyin6 · « **Reply #459 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:44:15 PM »

Yes, I drove it down there with the top securely tied into place!

So the plan was for me to dig with the excavator, then have Keith use Spud to work off the grub pile and spread the dirt onto the levee. The plan worked great, but that Kobelco can stack up dirt so quickly that poor Spud stood no chance trying to keep up with the growing pile.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #460 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:46:05 PM »

From the cab of Chief, looking down maybe 16-18 feet, I would excavate a hole to what I believed to be the current depth of the water, then break the wall, and dig that out. The plan worked well.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #461 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:47:37 PM »

I'd say with each successive "Hole" I created and cleared, the pond would get perhaps 30%-50% wider as shown in this shot:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #462 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:51:56 PM »

The grub piles were massive, and it literally took Keith the entire afternoon to clear the largest one off. But what a difference it all made. He was able to add uniform height to the entire pond and really widened the levee a bunch. Where before the narrow spot was not much wider than the actual track width of spud, by the end of the day that levee was wide enough to park my Chevy truck and spud side by side with room to spare! Keep in mind that the downhill side of that levee is around 20' tall! That's a lot of dirt!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #463 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:52:53 PM »

Better shots:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #464 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:54:02 PM »

After digging and while Keith moved dirt, I got on the tractor and started pulling the stones out of the dirt and stacking them in the field for future use

Flyin6 · « **Reply #465 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:55:45 PM »

Sometimes you can back drag a pile of earth, then scoop it out and reposition it...Looks like this:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #466 on:** February 27, 2018, 08:57:07 PM »

I think I'm set for the next two days of rain. Nothing hard like this past Saturday, so we should be able to stay within the banks I'm hoping.

Bob Smith · « **Reply #467 on:** February 27, 2018, 09:13:00 PM »

Yes , I agree time to put in the overflow piping. I would go with one larger pipe rather than two smaller but it isn't my pond. Size the overflow and leave some room for bigger runoff. Better to be too much at first than fighting a failure later. Other idea would be a rock lined overflow swale area. That must be some real clay soil as muddy as the water is.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #468 on:** February 27, 2018, 09:30:27 PM »

Quote from: Bob/OlallaWa on February 27, 2018, 09:13:00 PM

Yes , I agree time to put in the overflow piping. I would go with one larger pipe rather than two smaller but it isn't my pond. Size the overflow and leave some room for bigger runoff. Better to be too much at first than fighting a failure later. Other idea would be a rock lined overflow swale area. That must be some real clay soil as muddy as the water is.

Total clay

Packs in so hard it's like rock in the summer

stlaser · « **Reply #469 on:** February 27, 2018, 10:24:32 PM »

Well from the looks of things you have already utterly destroyed that kubota with filth.....

JR · « **Reply #470 on:** February 27, 2018, 11:51:58 PM »

Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?

cruizng · « **Reply #471 on:** February 28, 2018, 08:02:17 AM »

And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :) Very nice looking rig.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #472 on:** February 28, 2018, 09:03:26 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on February 27, 2018, 10:24:32 PM

Well from the looks of things you have already utterly destroyed that kubota with filth.....

I think that technically, the clay coating is actually a good base protective layer...Think of it as "Primer!"

Flyin6 · « **Reply #473 on:** February 28, 2018, 09:03:58 AM »

Quote from: cruizng on February 28, 2018, 08:02:17 AM

And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :) Very nice looking rig.

Yea, isn't that weird?!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #474 on:** February 28, 2018, 09:06:30 AM »

Quote from: JR on February 27, 2018, 11:51:58 PM

Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?

Yea, going to add the drain...Shawn seems to have the best idea on how to...But the pond is way too full

But like always I have a plan

Don is gonna excavate a whole new area of equivalent size. Then cut the wall between the two sides

Then when the pond level drops several feet, I'll get in there and install the overflow before the pondage back-fills to the current level.

stlaser · « **Reply #475 on:** February 28, 2018, 10:23:42 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:06:30 AM

Quote from: JR on February 27, 2018, 11:51:58 PM
Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?
Yea, going to add the drain...Shawn seems to have the best idea on how to...But the pond is way too full

But like always I have a plan

Don is gonna excavate a whole new area of equivalent size. Then cut the wall between the two sides

Then when the pond level drops several feet, I'll get in there and install the overflow before the pondage back-fills to the current level.

Marking this date on the calendar, the boss said I had a good idear....

Flyin6 · « **Reply #476 on:** February 28, 2018, 10:40:28 AM »

Quote from: stlaser on February 28, 2018, 10:23:42 AM

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:06:30 AM
Quote from: JR on February 27, 2018, 11:51:58 PM
Yep, all used up now, time to trade it in. Looks like it does the job you want.

Maybe you can put a couple of those hay roll thingy's to filter the runoff coming into the pond if there is a clear area for it.

Now would be the time to add a drain or 2, as you build the levee up so as not to dig it out.

So who's batteries were almost dead, Chief or Sarge?
Yea, going to add the drain...Shawn seems to have the best idea on how to...But the pond is way too full

But like always I have a plan

Don is gonna excavate a whole new area of equivalent size. Then cut the wall between the two sides

Then when the pond level drops several feet, I'll get in there and install the overflow before the pondage back-fills to the current level.

Marking this date on the calendar, the boss said I had a good idear....

Yep!

That's one in a row!

wyorunner · « **Reply #477 on:** February 28, 2018, 11:27:05 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:03:58 AM

Quote from: cruizng on February 28, 2018, 08:02:17 AM
And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :) Very nice looking rig.
Yea, isn't that weird?!

No this isn’t weird! A new piece of equipment should get AT LEAST three days of work before carnage ensues! You’re in it two. Job well done.

Do you have an eventual size you’d like the pond to be? Or is the plan to just keep adding until it’s big enough to swallow chief whole?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #478 on:** February 28, 2018, 12:26:53 PM »

It will end up a bit larger than twice the size you currently see.

And it will already swallow up Sarge, chief spud, SquareD, 12 square, you, your ramcharger, and Shawn's girly jeep!

cruizng · « **Reply #479 on:** February 28, 2018, 05:12:52 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on February 28, 2018, 09:03:58 AM

Quote from: cruizng on February 28, 2018, 08:02:17 AM
And no carnage... Can't decide if I'm disappointed or not.. :) Very nice looking rig.
Yea, isn't that weird?!

Well I didn't want to have to point this out but weren't you on the excavator (sitting in one spot for long periods of time) and Keith was in the NEW Kubota? At least if I was reading this correctly.

JR · « **Reply #480 on:** February 28, 2018, 05:38:37 PM »

Thats why its not broken.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #481 on:** February 28, 2018, 08:04:40 PM »

You people have so little faith!

JR · « **Reply #482 on:** February 28, 2018, 11:31:30 PM »

Faith we have, that is another story.

I believe carnage is time tested, or is that just me?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #483 on:** March 03, 2018, 08:15:50 PM »

No camera recordin's but I got some stuff done today.

First I just intended it to be a shooting instructional day. M$ for the big one and .45 1911 for the blond haired one.

Stretch was able to shoot a 1" group at 25 meters consistently by days end and around 200 rounds. Gunslinger six was grouping five rounds in a soccer ball at the same distance. I picked up a 12" piece of 2 X 4 and tossed it. Told the pre-rangers if they wanted a ride home, I had better see some holes in it before days end. THey did it just fine. Darn that .45 blows up stuff!

Beside that, I got the oil changed in the little Deere, refueled the Spud thing, and mounted some tools. I hooked the cutter up to Spud and went off killing trees. It will take out a 6" tree pretty easily, but it has to chew on the tree for a bit. I think a Fecon forestry head will be in the works, but at $30K for a new one, and I don't trust used, I may just have to wait on that.

So plan is to get right back down there and get the shed walls up, then get a deck nailed down around the privy to get that project done. I need shop space downstairs to create the rafter trusses to be able to dry in the shed, so that will be the priority after tomorrow...We are hopeful to carry the walls down to the site and get them erected by COB tomorrow.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #484 on:** March 03, 2018, 09:17:03 PM »

That’s good to hear fun happens down at the farm, not just carnage and distraction and more work!

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JR · « **Reply #485 on:** March 03, 2018, 09:52:37 PM »

Sounds like a full day chief. Maybe a gopro mounted might help out?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #486 on:** March 04, 2018, 09:31:24 AM »

Quote from: JR on March 03, 2018, 09:52:37 PM

Sounds like a full day chief. Maybe a gopro mounted might help out?

Yea, I'd like to have one, and helo mounted, but the bucks, man, the bucks!!!

Cause,

I have an insane bill to pay on this web site! (%#)(*!@#!!!!!! $567!

Just to keep all you boneheads happie!

Ridiculous!

And what exactly do these hosting companies do??? Provide me a tiny bit of disc space for all your conversations and a dedicated server of 10 TB for all the pics I have loaded up ! ;-))

wyorunner · « **Reply #487 on:** March 04, 2018, 11:46:34 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 04, 2018, 09:31:24 AM

Quote from: JR on March 03, 2018, 09:52:37 PM
Sounds like a full day chief. Maybe a gopro mounted might help out?
Yea, I'd like to have one, and helo mounted, but the bucks, man, the bucks!!!

Cause,

I have an insane bill to pay on this web site! (%#)(*!@#!!!!!! $567!

Just to keep all you boneheads happie!

Ridiculous!

And what exactly do these hosting companies do??? Provide me a tiny bit of disc space for all your conversations and a dedicated server of 10 TB for all the pics I have loaded up ! ;-))

You’re a good man! Paying, literally, to put up with all of the shenanigans on here! God is good!!! Thanks Chief!

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #488 on:** March 04, 2018, 12:34:18 PM »

We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half lol

I am fired now

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #489 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:44:52 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2018, 12:34:18 PM

We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half lol I am fired now

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Figure out for how long and get back with me!

Do it quick or you're really fired!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #490 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:47:59 AM »

Yesterday was expensive!

Not in terms of money, but in deposits to the BPB (Body Pain Bank)

We assembled the shed walls on site, skipping church because of the rarity af it being a great day, but throughout the day, I was getting more and more sore, and now I think I have bees set back a week or more.

But, we did it so here's how it started, We loaded the panels onto the trailer, went over to HD and purchased more 3/4" flooring and motored off to the Farm

Flyin6 · « **Reply #491 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:48:59 AM »

Clean slate:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #492 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:50:00 AM »

Which we laid down a second layer of 3/4" exterior rated 3/4" OSB

Flyin6 · « **Reply #493 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:52:14 AM »

Yes, I do believe in the concept of enslaving one's off spring. I watched them work while I sipped sweet tea on the background. I would crack the whip as necessary to keep the work going at a brisk pace!

First up we assembled the "Guide corner" from which everything else was constructed

Flyin6 · « **Reply #494 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:52:52 AM »

Then came the left door

Flyin6 · « **Reply #495 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:53:48 AM »

And then the right along with its corner and a couple other panels

Flyin6 · « **Reply #496 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:56:16 AM »

This was a S&S operation

(Squarin' and Screwin')

With the floor level and square, I only really needed to pay attention to placing the panels precisely into place, then fastening them in place. I used 3.5" #10 screws for fastening to the base, and 3" #9 screws to fasten each panel to its neighbor

Flyin6 · « **Reply #497 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:57:57 AM »

Then the other side and finishing with the back panels. The last panel tucked into place with maybe 1/8" clearance which the screws sucked up as quick as you can whistle dixie!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #498 on:** March 05, 2018, 11:59:18 AM »

And just like that, it was cold/late/sore/time to go

Have to fab up the roof trusses next and get some coverage in there

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #499 on:** March 05, 2018, 03:17:30 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on March 05, 2018, 11:44:52 AM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2018, 12:34:18 PM
We can delete that square D pages and probably cut the storage needs in half lol I am fired now

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Figure out for how long and get back with me!

Do it quick or you're really fired!

Well seems as I figured out I was fired before you did that has to count for something, meaning less time severed. So how about 24 hours of not posting in this thread?

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