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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #350 on: April 04, 2021, 01:31:00 AM »
I knew what you meant!

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« Reply #351 on: April 04, 2021, 07:57:11 AM »
I think that is the suburban with some mystery upgrades Don had been working to complete before the trail ride. It looks like it involves 56 inch tires, and articulated front end for steering and a few other items and it is wearing the camouflage wrap the manufacturers use to hide their new models.

Or it could be a really big dump truck.


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« Reply #352 on: April 04, 2021, 08:40:46 AM »
Looks good what size rock did they put down?

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The base stuff was big and rude. Not sure what "number" you'd call it but like half football down to softball sized. That got tracked in flat with that D6 Cat, the something we call "dense grade" over the top, perhaps 4" thick. Hardens up almost like sandstone, and very durable. Will wash out if a subjected to a steady stream, though.
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« Reply #353 on: April 04, 2021, 08:42:15 AM »
What’s the large white blur in that photo Don?


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« Reply #354 on: April 04, 2021, 10:58:21 AM »
What’s the large white blur in that photo Don?


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« Reply #355 on: April 05, 2021, 09:29:35 AM »
What’s the large white blur in that photo Don?


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I'm sure they would if I asked...Told me I could drive the dozer(s) around, and offered to do some "Fixing" of the road on my property. I'll drive it to help if I'm asked, but other than that, naw, it will stay untouched by me.
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« Reply #356 on: April 17, 2021, 11:20:33 PM »
It's finally barn building time

Site prep is the theme of the day which means piling and sorting and getting things out of the way.

Plan is to start laying out the building Monday morning. The road is very muddy/barely impassable in places, but never the less, improving
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« Reply #357 on: April 17, 2021, 11:22:19 PM »
The building will orient on the sawmill, with it lying maybe three feet inside a big 20X10 door
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« Reply #358 on: April 17, 2021, 11:23:58 PM »
Stacking up material for the mill:

And soon the little out house will no longer feel lonely
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« Reply #359 on: April 17, 2021, 11:26:47 PM »
The irregular embankments are going to take up a lot of my attention soon. While the barn is going in, I plan to come in and cut out the sides of the road and stack up those big flat boulders to form a wall, backfilling it with dense grade gravel
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #360 on: April 17, 2021, 11:30:06 PM »
I moved the excavator so that soon, hopefully, the mechanic can get the crane truck in there to yank and repair that leaky upper dipper-stick cylinder

Because

After the barn is up

I am going to fix that pond. Drain it first, then get in there and dig it all out correctly, track it in, and set a wall of stones all the way around, and maybe a gazebo and fountain if I get the time
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #361 on: April 18, 2021, 04:09:27 AM »
Heck, I still need a permit.

Do I see an auger there?
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« Reply #362 on: April 18, 2021, 11:10:50 AM »
Heck, I still need a permit.

Do I see an auger there?
Yes you do, a Blue Diamond severe duty/9" auger bit
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« Reply #363 on: April 19, 2021, 05:39:00 PM »
OK, so let's build a pole barn

We will be erecting a 30W X 50L X 12 high pole building with a 6/12 pitch roof, a 20 foot wide door on one gable and two 12W X 10H doors on the opposite gable. Either side will have a man door and there will be windows arrayed around the remaining perimeter.

Presently I have contracted to have a 8X8 cover over one man door to serve as a comfortable entrance/porch, and I am now considering a 14' wide lean-to on the opposite wall to allow more out of the sunlight storage. The latter TBD

Today was all about site cleanup to be ready to lay the badder boards
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« Reply #364 on: April 19, 2021, 05:40:38 PM »
With all the trash lumber removed and set to fire, the front eve wall was set up five feet inside the eve/wall
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #365 on: April 19, 2021, 05:42:45 PM »
The thing laid out well. Here we are midstream squaring the building. The first pull had it 12" out of square, but with care, at this point it was within an inch of square
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« Reply #366 on: April 19, 2021, 05:45:16 PM »
And, the final product, measurements had the layout exactly on square!

Tomorrow is boring holes and setting posts. I however get to go play with a local hospital at another appointment, which seem to stack up like cord wood these days.
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« Reply #367 on: April 19, 2021, 08:16:03 PM »
What is a eve wall and a badder board?


Are you able to use any of your timbers for the posts? That would just be sweet in my mind


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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #368 on: April 19, 2021, 09:41:46 PM »
Since when did the Amish start driving duallies?


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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #369 on: April 19, 2021, 10:40:20 PM »
Since when did the Amish start driving duallies?


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The Amish guy came out in a Duramax truck. Around here as long as it's black, I guess it's Ok to own a truck if you're Mennonite and even some Amish.
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« Reply #370 on: April 19, 2021, 10:47:48 PM »
What is a eve wall and a badder board?


Are you able to use any of your timbers for the posts? That would just be sweet in my mind


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I stacked up some long 6X6 posts for the lean-to if we decide to build it, and if so, perhaps I will mill some of the timbers. Jury is still out on that

Change to: Gable wall

Badder board:
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #371 on: April 19, 2021, 10:47:51 PM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #372 on: April 19, 2021, 11:02:16 PM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
I guess I have never had to do any building other then with strings and lasers. 


So you set the height and the straight corners from that then?


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« Reply #373 on: April 19, 2021, 11:07:50 PM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
I guess I have never had to do any building other then with strings and lasers. 


So you set the height and the straight corners from that then?


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You string mason line between them to create your footprint and then square diagonally to get it square - moving the strings in/out as necessary.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #374 on: April 19, 2021, 11:13:29 PM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
I think it's better. Depending on the angle of the dangle. :)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #375 on: April 19, 2021, 11:22:33 PM »
Since when did the Amish start driving duallies?


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Uh 30 years ago? You been living under a rock? I know one with his own plane and pilut too.....  :popcorn: :popcorn:
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« Reply #376 on: April 20, 2021, 09:18:48 AM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
...Depends

Standard boards are batter

But the Armee uses "Badder" boards

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« Reply #377 on: April 20, 2021, 09:23:31 AM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
I guess I have never had to do any building other then with strings and lasers. 


So you set the height and the straight corners from that then?


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Yes

First you set a wall, that being the front Gable that squares off the sawmill in this case. Then using that, square the rest of the building...corner to corner measurement must be the same to equal "squared-up."

Then pick a point up/down to set grade.

Unbelievably, we were only 4" off from level. Once the top soil is removed that will be nutz-on. A simple backfill with some Dense grade, 4"-5" below the top of the base board and I'm ready for the burned limestone.

So who here knows how to make concrete from scratch, from only natural stuff??
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« Reply #378 on: April 20, 2021, 09:26:26 AM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
I think it's better. Depending on the angle of the dangle. :)
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« Reply #379 on: April 20, 2021, 09:27:02 AM »
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« Reply #380 on: April 20, 2021, 10:57:00 AM »
And isn’t it batter?

L-shape or diagonal boards as Don has them used to square the construction site.
I guess I have never had to do any building other then with strings and lasers. 


So you set the height and the straight corners from that then?


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Yes

First you set a wall, that being the front Gable that squares off the sawmill in this case. Then using that, square the rest of the building...corner to corner measurement must be the same to equal "squared-up."

Then pick a point up/down to set grade.

Unbelievably, we were only 4" off from level. Once the top soil is removed that will be nutz-on. A simple backfill with some Dense grade, 4"-5" below the top of the base board and I'm ready for the burned limestone.

So who here knows how to make concrete from scratch, from only natural stuff??
I believe Charles has that stuff around his place lol


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« Reply #381 on: April 20, 2021, 09:42:30 PM »
Since when did the Amish start driving duallies?


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Uh 30 years ago? You been living under a rock? I know one with his own plane and pilut too.....  :popcorn: :popcorn:
I guess its like any religion.  There are those that are willing to compromise and still try to name the name.  Like the Muslims that don’t fly planes into buildings and still call themselves Muslims.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #382 on: April 20, 2021, 10:09:05 PM »
I had a busy day that precluded my driving down to the farm, so after the Dr. Appt. in the AM, I went to work on the Suburban.

I called the crew to see what progress looked like. They had already stripped the top soil from the site, laid out the holes and were boring them as of just past noon.

The goal was to bore all the post holes and have some/all of them stood up by COB. I don't know for sure, but I will have eyes on tomorrow.
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« Reply #383 on: April 21, 2021, 07:28:18 PM »
The builders had to cancel. Problem was, they could not see their mark out lines and paint marks to drill holes!

Snow late in April. Now I know how Samm always feels.
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« Reply #384 on: April 23, 2021, 09:53:36 PM »
I guess we are really looking at day three of the barn-build.

Walls all up, holes backfilled with loads of concrete and everything looking pretty square and well aligned.
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« Reply #385 on: April 23, 2021, 09:56:05 PM »
The top cylinder is removed for repair on the Kobelco SK-250. I think I lost around 40 gallons of fluid out of 65. Replacing that is going to hurt!
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« Reply #386 on: April 23, 2021, 09:57:28 PM »
Pure gold these days!
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« Reply #387 on: April 23, 2021, 11:20:38 PM »
Measure twice, cut once! Can’t afford to mis-cut any of that gold! Don’t think a board stretcher will work either.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #388 on: April 23, 2021, 11:33:36 PM »
Looks like a good spot for it.

Why not get 55gl drums since you use so much (maybe less after this)

From what I am learning its the mills that are making a killing. Transportation is up some (Blame Dave) Stores have the same margin as always, loggers are the same or less. Mills have modernized, pushing out more for less.
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« Reply #389 on: April 24, 2021, 12:51:40 AM »
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« Reply #390 on: April 24, 2021, 11:36:46 AM »
Looks like a good spot for it.

Why not get 55gl drums since you use so much (maybe less after this)

From what I am learning its the mills that are making a killing. Transportation is up some (Blame Dave) Stores have the same margin as always, loggers are the same or less. Mills have modernized, pushing out more for less.
This time I am getting a 55 gal drum...
So, interesting story about that. The builder quoted me a price for adding a 14' or 16' wide lean-to to one side of the barn, which I want to build. But with the price gouging lumber cost, it will set me back $6,500. So I offered to just cut up the material and provide it. He was all over that, so that is the plan going forward, just add the wing later in the summer after the Wyoming trip. He then asked me if I could saw up timber for his barn building business...Cool!
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I think we may have found a rich source of income from the boulders I am pulling out of the ground by the dozens. Turns out retail on them is $1-$2 per pound! A lot of those rocks are 500-2,000 lbs. We are in the middle of seeking a wholesale buyer at 50% retail. I easily have millions of pounds of rocks in the ground. Should this fly, I think I'll dig up that far field, pull the rocks out of the ground, then simply replace the dirt, re-grade, plant grass and drive on.

We are warming up to the idea of moving down there full time. I have long wanted to produce all the $$$ needed for the next home from stuff the farm/land already offers...We shall see. Meantime, I had a thought that I could add in some RV parking near the pond. Start renting/leasing say, 20 spots to folks to create another income stream.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #391 on: April 24, 2021, 11:49:29 AM »
Measure twice, cut once! Can’t afford to mis-cut any of that gold! Don’t think a board stretcher will work either.
Not me this time
Can't you tell?
This building is going up square!
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« Reply #392 on: April 24, 2021, 11:57:14 AM »
I was going to say it wasn’t gold but could agree as long as we are considering plywood platinum.

The ridiculousness of lumber pricing dumbfounds me.
I have been purchasing all through this dempanic.
Not once, not one time, has there been this “shortage” of anything they are claiming to have to bring the price up. I cried a little at $60 3/4”, but made a bit of a scene to hopefully awaken the sheep when it was $96 last week. I wasn’t buying it, but made it quite clear folks are being screwed.

Barn looking good boss, and I can’t believe what the snowflakes will pay for a rock. That shocked me.
And nice that you’re making the connections to self sufficiency.
 
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« Reply #393 on: April 24, 2021, 12:09:59 PM »
I was going to say it wasn’t gold but could agree as long as we are considering plywood platinum.

The ridiculousness of lumber pricing dumbfounds me.
I have been purchasing all through this dempanic.
Not once, not one time, has there been this “shortage” of anything they are claiming to have to bring the price up. I cried a little at $60 3/4”, but made a bit of a scene to hopefully awaken the sheep when it was $96 last week. I wasn’t buying it, but made it quite clear folks are being screwed.

Barn looking good boss, and I can’t believe what the snowflakes will pay for a rock. That shocked me.
And nice that you’re making the connections to self sufficiency.
 
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That farm should be nearly self supportive by years end. Stored veggies/veggie garden. Couple of beef cows walking around. One pond of eating fish, another producing hippie pets. Rocks flying out the front gate making momee to build in my house there, and removing a forest of cedars to produce timber for fence posts, siding, flooring, material for my hippy annarondeck chair thing, and maybe even my roof of solar panels if I get that far.
The idea of the camper/RV slots makes money and offers a refuge spot for savvy campers fleeing the growing violence in other settings.
Ya, and rocks are expensive! Go figure, planet is made of them and they cost big money. My boulders have that river carved side look and are orange in color. With the rectangular shape and 12" thickness, they stack up well and the landscapers love em'
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #394 on: April 24, 2021, 12:27:59 PM »
Those rock prices are intriguing to me. We’re considering flattening the top of our ridge out the back of the house to give more flat area for playing/messing around. Based on how good my aim was with fence posts last year when pounding them in, I’ve got me a few of them large rocks as well.


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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #395 on: April 24, 2021, 02:24:22 PM »
Like JR, the research I've done comes up with the same conclusion. It's the mills. No one else. (Lumber gouging)
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #396 on: April 24, 2021, 08:12:19 PM »
Those rock prices are intriguing to me. We’re considering flattening the top of our ridge out the back of the house to give more flat area for playing/messing around. Based on how good my aim was with fence posts last year when pounding them in, I’ve got me a few of them large rocks as well.


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So note that the squared off natural occurring ones are those that are fetching the coin. Broken edge flat stones will sell, but not for very much.
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #397 on: April 28, 2021, 05:32:57 AM »
We had to order a specific type of hydraulic oil for our Kobelco so make sure you got the right stuff. We were topping ours off with the regular stuff we use on the farm equipment.  Turns out that is wrong.

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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #398 on: April 28, 2021, 09:51:09 AM »
We had to order a specific type of hydraulic oil for our Kobelco so make sure you got the right stuff. We were topping ours off with the regular stuff we use on the farm equipment.  Turns out that is wrong.

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AW-46 is fine/recommended for my machine. Thing is, it never lasts long! Problem with older machines... I would love to buy a newer machine in the 55,000 lb range, but problem is I'd have to follow the purchase with payments!
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Re: Hide Site/Bug Out Location Construction, Part 6
« Reply #399 on: April 28, 2021, 09:56:49 AM »
So, total fail on providing pics from yesterday.

I took delivery of the RX-7320 tractor, and WHOA!!! What a machine. I have to wonder how I deserve something this nice. Ever heard of a cruise control for the PTO? Well I own one, which also has manual and auto modes, along with normal PTO, Econ PTO, and an overall Auto or manual PTO modes outside of cruise.

It cools great, sounds quiet inside, has tunes, is a glass house on wheels, and so far unbroken!

Next up, all the grading around the new barn is now complete. All purlins are up for all walls. Looks we are holding just short of a top plate. Front large entrance is framed in as well as some of the other parts of the building. It won't take nearly as much gravel as I thought to finish. We are looking at two days of rain, so will be taking a break on that for now.
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