And you make Biden a happy man.Really don't care much about him, but it sure makes me happy!
And you make Biden a happy man.Biden doesn't like Musk.
Guy that works for me bought this. Model X Plaid.I'm shifting up life
https://youtube.com/shorts/E8depLnZFgY?feature=share
This thing is stupid fast. Sub 3 seconds 0-60
Build quality is still not there yet but they have a cult following.
I’d own one as a second vehicle for running around town but not as a primary vehicle.
Congrats Chief. Long way from the Dually you were eyeballing.
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Don, nice that you are able to get into a new EV. Would be nice to be able to travel 600 miles for twenty bucks or so and only having to make two stops to recharge batteries.I am watching Duane carefully. So far the cost of driving his car is almost nothing. They have a rule: ABC which stands for "Always be charging."
I am very interested in how the costs and downtime recharging batteries work out in the long timeframe.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/electric-car-four-day-trip-more-time-charging-sleeping.ampI don't believe this based purely on the numbers
Know before you go
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Should see your car about the time I see my truckdunno, hope you get yours sooner!
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https://www.facebook.com/janette.asaropena/videos/1222928655135782/?fs=e&s=clI think, after seeing that, Ken is in a lot of trouble!
For the record this is Ken’s fault. He sent this to me and asked I post it here. Something about how he was worried of getting unbanned then banned again or something. I think there was an H reference in there somewhere too. Maybe how they didn’t make one that could haul her capacity around yet? :tongue:
Ouch! Shots fired! Nice knowing you boysWho do ya think?
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Ouch! Shots fired! Nice knowing you boysWho do ya think?
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A. Shawn
B. Shawn
C. Ken
D Both of them rascals
E. Let em ride but keep a close watch on em?
We do have another Shawn, or sorta spells his name somewhat like yours.Ouch! Shots fired! Nice knowing you boysWho do ya think?
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A. Shawn
B. Shawn
C. Ken
D Both of them rascals
E. Let em ride but keep a close watch on em?
From a sole numbers perspective I think I’m at a tad disadvantage unless someone else is named Shawn on here…… :huh:
After seeing that obvious propaganda meant to raise my blood pressure, and knowing he is a wise man, I'm betting he is distancing himself from you about now...Ouch! Shots fired! Nice knowing you boysWho do ya think?
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A. Shawn
B. Shawn
C. Ken
D Both of them rascals
E. Let em ride but keep a close watch on em?
From a sole numbers perspective I think I’m at a tad disadvantage unless someone else is named Shawn on here…… :huh:
In the event no one votes to save em, My decision is (I've been watching old episodes of Hells Kitchen and Chef Ramsey), I think I'll fire the S rascal from the hippy state. After all, who likes anyone from Colorado?
If any of U's want to save em, speak now or let him burn!
Seems like a legitimate concern from the video, I know lots of the gas/electric stations around here in Utah are garbage bagged.
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I hadn’t looked at it like that, I’m getting better at sleeping in the driver seat the older I get.Seems like a legitimate concern from the video, I know lots of the gas/electric stations around here in Utah are garbage bagged.
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Careful Dave, you’re treading on thin ice. Mainly because of your name Dave but a close second is agreeing with me or maybe not so much me but the truth of the matter. Furthermore, the lack of an available electric recharging system or infrastructure is only a concern for non retirees. You see had you been paying attention those long lines at charging stations are a great time to catch up on some much needed beauty sleep of our older brethren. Frankly, I have a hard time arguing that point…..
Doesn't SC station take like 1 hour. That would handle 20+ cars a day, but you got to fight for a spot. I have stations all over the place here, and most have several chargers.JR is former law enforcement. He offers wise counsel. I concur, those dissenters are fired for 90 seconds and that includes the Colonel who couldn't just quietly stay in his corner... ;-)
I would fire those dissenters for at least 90 seconds, show em who's boss.
Well, I see this thread has fallen apart and into some FB-style discussion thread just like everything else around here! :-(
Doesn't SC station take like 1 hour. That would handle 20+ cars a day, but you got to fight for a spot. I have stations all over the place here, and most have several chargers.JR is former law enforcement. He offers wise counsel. I concur, those dissenters are fired for 90 seconds and that includes the Colonel who couldn't just quietly stay in his corner... ;-)
I would fire those dissenters for at least 90 seconds, show em who's boss.
No, SC is much faster. You get like 200 miles in about 21 minutes. But that was the "Old" battery data. Second quarter and newer Model 3's and I think the Plaid cars are getting a newer battery that can be charged to 100% every time. Older batteries would be charged to 80%-85% to preserve their life. New batteries are supposed to be good for 18-20 years and can take a 100% charge every time. They also do not lose capacity over time like the old chemistry. My car and Duane's have the new batteries. His car charged from 250 ish miles to full in just minutes when I did my supercharging station training with him.
From a goggle search:
40 minutes
A Supercharger can charge a battery from 0% to 80% in about 40 minutes. After 80% charge is reached, the charging rate slows in order to protect the battery’s health until 100% charge is reached. You won’t need your Tesla’s battery to be at 100% to get to most destinations.
Note: 80% = 266 miles
Couple of thingsDoesn't SC station take like 1 hour. That would handle 20+ cars a day, but you got to fight for a spot. I have stations all over the place here, and most have several chargers.JR is former law enforcement. He offers wise counsel. I concur, those dissenters are fired for 90 seconds and that includes the Colonel who couldn't just quietly stay in his corner... ;-)
I would fire those dissenters for at least 90 seconds, show em who's boss.
No, SC is much faster. You get like 200 miles in about 21 minutes. But that was the "Old" battery data. Second quarter and newer Model 3's and I think the Plaid cars are getting a newer battery that can be charged to 100% every time. Older batteries would be charged to 80%-85% to preserve their life. New batteries are supposed to be good for 18-20 years and can take a 100% charge every time. They also do not lose capacity over time like the old chemistry. My car and Duane's have the new batteries. His car charged from 250 ish miles to full in just minutes when I did my supercharging station training with him.
From a goggle search:
40 minutes
A Supercharger can charge a battery from 0% to 80% in about 40 minutes. After 80% charge is reached, the charging rate slows in order to protect the battery’s health until 100% charge is reached. You won’t need your Tesla’s battery to be at 100% to get to most destinations.
Note: 80% = 266 miles
Betcha can't get me home in a Tesla...not in one day, and maybe not in two.
And I'd hate to see what 200 miles of crushed rock does to the bottom...
Oh, and let's say it's mid January, and a balmy -35 or so.
I can't figure how many kW's of heat will play into winter ops.
Kept in a garage it might be OK in that. When in use they generate their own heat, much less need cooling when hot or charging.Yes they do. The Tesla system actually pumps Glycol all around the 4,500+ batteries to keep them all the same temp. Then circulates it throughout those high-tech electric motors
I have a confession to make chief. It was I that goaded Shawn into posting that video after he sent it to me.OH !!!!! NOOO!!!!!!
Can’t let ma boys go down on their own….
Don has the Birkenstocks a Tesla and now all he needs is a cross body man purse….
Peace out brothers, nice knowing you….
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I have a confession to make chief. It was I that goaded Shawn into posting that video after he sent it to me.
Can’t let ma boys go down on their own….
Don has the Birkenstocks a Tesla and now all he needs is a cross body man purse….
Peace out brothers, nice knowing you….
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I have a confession to make chief. It was I that goaded Shawn into posting that video after he sent it to me.Ya, you're history!
Can’t let ma boys go down on their own….
Don has the Birkenstocks a Tesla and now all he needs is a cross body man purse….
Peace out brothers, nice knowing you….
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Ditto!!!You're fired too!
Note the cost of fuel in the picture for a time frame they have been bagged.I looked that one up. Not listed as a charging station by Tesla. Not completed or operational yet???
Zoom in and you seen the footprints of the Tesla charge stations
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Wait, "ME TOO" !!!!!!!!OK, you can be fired too
Seems like it.Yea, you. So the new RMTWS organization is like four people Matt...You wanna lead?
https://www.westernjournal.com/journalists-tow-camper-behind-electric-truck-end-stunning-failure-make-85-miles/
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I would love to have seen it on the side of the highway, you don’t even have a hood to pop and look under.https://www.westernjournal.com/journalists-tow-camper-behind-electric-truck-end-stunning-failure-make-85-miles/
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Hilarious, in my stomping grounds no less….
I think Don just called us all stupid for running oil burners.1. I didn't
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https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/white-house-says-tesla-supercharger-network-allow-other-evsThat's both interesting and unwelcome news.
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/white-house-says-tesla-supercharger-network-allow-other-evsThat's both interesting and unwelcome news.
Not sure how that is all going to work
It's more complicated than you might imagine.
You need the Tesla smart app on your phone, and that phone needs to be near the cable for it to mechanically unlock and then provide power. I'll bet you'd have to subscribe to Tesla, pay some access fee and purchase some sort of adapter.
And isn't the Tesla superchargers high-powered DC current??? Not AC power like everyone else uses? I'm fuzzy on that, and you may want to check me, but the Tesla technology is a world apart from Ford/Chevy/Nissan, and the rest. I think, only Lucid is using the Tesla-based technology.
So my guess is that given the average intelligence of the Prius and Chevy Bolt owners, we aren't likely to have a lot of competition.
And there's the fact that Tesla supercharger stations are opening all the time. We now have three in Cincinnati with a ton of what is called "Destination chargers. That's like garages, restaurants, and hotels that will have dedicated Tesla chargers to pick up some juice while you carve up your ribeye.
Just watching all you do, where you go.I'm the evening entertainment, hugh?
Is this a fireable offense? Just wonderin'https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/white-house-says-tesla-supercharger-network-allow-other-evsThat's both interesting and unwelcome news.
Not sure how that is all going to work
It's more complicated than you might imagine.
You need the Tesla smart app on your phone, and that phone needs to be near the cable for it to mechanically unlock and then provide power. I'll bet you'd have to subscribe to Tesla, pay some access fee and purchase some sort of adapter.
And isn't the Tesla superchargers high-powered DC current??? Not AC power like everyone else uses? I'm fuzzy on that, and you may want to check me, but the Tesla technology is a world apart from Ford/Chevy/Nissan, and the rest. I think, only Lucid is using the Tesla-based technology.
So my guess is that given the average intelligence of the Prius and Chevy Bolt owners, we aren't likely to have a lot of competition.
And there's the fact that Tesla supercharger stations are opening all the time. We now have three in Cincinnati with a ton of what is called "Destination chargers. That's like garages, restaurants, and hotels that will have dedicated Tesla chargers to pick up some juice while you carve up your ribeye.
Well, I agree on one thing……
The average intelligence of a Chevy owner! :knucklehead:
Hard to fight facts lolIs this a fireable offense? Just wonderin'https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/white-house-says-tesla-supercharger-network-allow-other-evsThat's both interesting and unwelcome news.
Not sure how that is all going to work
It's more complicated than you might imagine.
You need the Tesla smart app on your phone, and that phone needs to be near the cable for it to mechanically unlock and then provide power. I'll bet you'd have to subscribe to Tesla, pay some access fee and purchase some sort of adapter.
And isn't the Tesla superchargers high-powered DC current??? Not AC power like everyone else uses? I'm fuzzy on that, and you may want to check me, but the Tesla technology is a world apart from Ford/Chevy/Nissan, and the rest. I think, only Lucid is using the Tesla-based technology.
So my guess is that given the average intelligence of the Prius and Chevy Bolt owners, we aren't likely to have a lot of competition.
And there's the fact that Tesla supercharger stations are opening all the time. We now have three in Cincinnati with a ton of what is called "Destination chargers. That's like garages, restaurants, and hotels that will have dedicated Tesla chargers to pick up some juice while you carve up your ribeye.
Well, I agree on one thing……
The average intelligence of a Chevy owner! :knucklehead:
Pretty sure I as permanently fired several hundred offenses ago and it’s hard to demote the guy at the bottom! :tongue:We'll find a way!
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRYsn7dP/?k=1That's close to where my son lives...Darn, will make it hard on me to drive my model 3 there to visit!
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More interesting was the owner isn’t being paid for the charge stations. Wonder how that agreement works outDunno, but he was acting appropriately. Elon Musk does not strike me as a sleazy businessman. He may have some bad apples in management, but I doubt it is policy or procedure anywhere in any of his companies to shortchange vendors.
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Black bagged as of this amIt's cold in Utah.
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So this is now three charging stations in Utah?This is the gas station I took the google image from, I fueled this Am here and verified my previous statement is all. I’ll look at another spot on my way out of Logan this evening.
Something's up there
Haven't even heard of anything like that here in the Kentucky area of operations
Copy that. Appreciate the informationSo this is now three charging stations in Utah?This is the gas station I took the google image from, I fueled this Am here and verified my previous statement is all. I’ll look at another spot on my way out of Logan this evening.
Something's up there
Haven't even heard of anything like that here in the Kentucky area of operations
Just verifying was all
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Don you have probably already figured this out but there is a really strong Tesla community and I bet there is a forum to separate the myth from reality.I'm connecting slowly. It seems those well-established are on their second-third car and totally immersed. They don't hesitate to do anything with their cars.
Redundancy is good. Two is one and one is none.
CM
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Duane, nice to see you posting. Keep us updated on the eco flow I’ve been looking at them. A YouTube couple I follow on a remote property recently added one.Will do. Which “Homesteading” YouTubers deployed an Ecoflow system?
Duane, nice to see you posting. Keep us updated on the eco flow I’ve been looking at them. A YouTube couple I follow on a remote property recently added one.Will do. Which “Homesteading” YouTubers deployed an Ecoflow system?
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They the ones that recently got a D8?
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Yeah, almost big enough, but they still couldn't get a cement truck up the road.
Hate to see what they are really spending on solar. Looks like a lot of stuff.
Sounds like my building, but costs more and they tell you up front.So you good? Back home?
Yes, just got out of the shower.Answered prayer
Quick yes, but the 22 and 18 are just getting going there. Still cool.But think of it...This already produced seemingly insignificant and somewhat mundane-looking semi-sports car could just be the quickest thing mankind has ever produced...
Must be on one of the cars trains going buy here, massive.It was JR!
Stop in at Blue Ash Chili while you are there..Tex,
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Yeah it’s not texas chili but I went there a few times when I used to visit an office we had in blue ash.How bout I crash Jeff Ruby's on the way back with the frau?
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Would Love to go with you. They are so cool. I was wearing multicam shorts and a noveske t shirt and hadn’t planned on going so they accommodated me in the downstairs bar when I went through there on my way to pick up my RVThat's one of the reasons we love to go there as a family
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Would Love to go with you. They are so cool. I was wearing multicam shorts and a noveske t shirt and hadn’t planned on going so they accommodated me in the downstairs bar when I went through there on my way to pick up my RVThat's one of the reasons we love to go there as a family
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THe dressing up part.
Arrive, then have the car vale'd off, then the kind reception
Next the whole dining experience while wearing a jacket and tie with the boys dressed up. It may cost a small mortgage payment, but who can put a price on the memories?
So while on the subject of fine dining in Cincy, I recommend the following:
Seasons 52 Features chef-prepared seafood to steaks, never had a miss there, medium expensive
The Precinct This is the Jeff Ruby restaurant where it all started. An old cincy police station. Steaks, expensive.
The Chart House Fine dining centered around a seafood menu sitting and perched over the Ohio river in Newport, KY
McCormick and Schmicks Fine dining in the center if downtown. Chef prepared seafood, my favorite, expensive
Grandview Tavern Located in Ft. Mitchel KY, very nice area, traditional country cuisine, specialty: Fried chicken, medium expensive
Walts Hitching Post Fort Wright, KY, generations of ribs. Best in the area. Reasonably priced
Suggestion: Call me a week or so before. Depending on what you/she may enjoy, that list is nowhere near as complete as I can offer verbally.Would Love to go with you. They are so cool. I was wearing multicam shorts and a noveske t shirt and hadn’t planned on going so they accommodated me in the downstairs bar when I went through there on my way to pick up my RVThat's one of the reasons we love to go there as a family
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THe dressing up part.
Arrive, then have the car vale'd off, then the kind reception
Next the whole dining experience while wearing a jacket and tie with the boys dressed up. It may cost a small mortgage payment, but who can put a price on the memories?
So while on the subject of fine dining in Cincy, I recommend the following:
Seasons 52 Features chef-prepared seafood to steaks, never had a miss there, medium expensive
The Precinct This is the Jeff Ruby restaurant where it all started. An old cincy police station. Steaks, expensive.
The Chart House Fine dining centered around a seafood menu sitting and perched over the Ohio river in Newport, KY
McCormick and Schmicks Fine dining in the center if downtown. Chef prepared seafood, my favorite, expensive
Grandview Tavern Located in Ft. Mitchel KY, very nice area, traditional country cuisine, specialty: Fried chicken, medium expensive
Walts Hitching Post Fort Wright, KY, generations of ribs. Best in the area. Reasonably priced
Going to use this as my go to list for taking my wife out for nice dinners.
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I have to check out USAA, my insurance is getting to be almost $500 a month. Father was career Marine, mom still had her ID when she passed. Says military, spouses and children, we will see.There is a "window" to qualify, then things get tricky. If your dad was a USAA member, then you're golden. If not, well...Perhaps I could adopt you as my long-lost son and you could qualify that way
Just confirmed that comment above. Trip length of 3,800 miles at a cost of $350 of supercharger station recharges.I think the big kicker on Tesla ownership is initial cost, especially in todays continual increasing inflation world. A 72k car on 7 years at 2% (which doesn’t exist I don’t believe) is 920 a month. So the real cost is right at 1000 a month with electricity.
If you had a car or truck which got 20 mpg, you would have to purchase 190 gallons
At $5 a gallon that would have cost $950
So operating this car in a long trip mode where you are paying the highest price for electric charging you would save $600 or close to a third the cost of driving a gas car
Then consider you are looking at a $50-$70 oil change within two thousand miles after and the savings really start to mount up. So we can comfortably say that you can drive a Tesla car on a long trip for about a forth the cost of operating an ICE vehicle.
And that is using very expensive supercharging, commercial charging.
The same man pays $68 a month, by charging at home and drives about 60 miles a day just work related for 23 days. He obviously drives more than just to/from work and probably drives some on weekends, but just using the work miles, we have 1380 miles for a cost of $68
The gasser getting 20mpg uses 69 gallons of gas
69 gallons @ $5/gal = $345
Now, the Tesla is really starting to stretch its legs with an operating cost of only 19.7% of the gasser (Not including fluid changes and gasser servicing)
80% less
And I might point out that the power company in my example here is not the same as mine. My power company does indeed have cheaper rates after midnight until 0600, so I will be able to operate at something less that the example above.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qx8z/tesla-fans-mad-over-video-of-tesla-mowing-down-toddler-mannequin-in-full-self-driving-modeKinda like the "X" planes.
Saw these ads running this week for this guy lobbying against the self driving sofware. Always going to be haters.
How many humans run over kids?
One problem with electric cars is their connectivity and the lack of privacy. If I want to jump in my old truck without my phone I can get off the radar. Or I can drop my phone in a faraday bag. Car not so much.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/tesla-hiking-supercharger-prices-significantly-across-europeGood FYI
This is the understanding normal thinking individuals have, the aoc types, can’t comprehend these facts. Doesn’t eliminate the fact they are still nice vehicles we didn’t personally buy one because it’s “green” because that would be lying to myself, and I don’t like doing that!
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This topic is like religion or politics. So polarizing for many.Yea, copy all that.
Capitalism will prevail even after the subsidies are gone. Oil has subsidies too BTW
I still believe the hydrogen fuel cell will eventually take over and that will be a game changer
And there is a Li recycling plant in OH and the technology for more efficient process is evolving quickly.
What bothers me the self righteous attitude of many EV owners when the facts aren’t on their side.
Call me when you have enough solar on your house to be off the grid while charging your EV.
I did look seriously at the Y. Just would like to be able to tow 7k across country and that won’t do it.
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There is a college level course lecture on audible. The Science of Energy from the Great Courses. It’s a 18 hour course but we’ll worth it to be really well informed about energy of all kindsI will have to find this.
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