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« Reply #1900 on: June 13, 2020, 07:33:10 PM »
Thanks Shawn.  Heat is all the way up.  I may have too much wire speed.


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« Reply #1901 on: June 13, 2020, 07:46:17 PM »
Thanks Shawn.  Heat is all the way up.  I may have too much wire speed.


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« Reply #1902 on: June 13, 2020, 07:54:34 PM »
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« Reply #1903 on: June 13, 2020, 08:17:43 PM »
Thanks Shawn.  Heat is all the way up.  I may have too much wire speed.


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So I was getting good penetration on next to the hottest but wanted to put more heat on the 1/4 inch tube.  Cheated in that direction a bit and let the rest of the heat onto the 10ga.  Plus I think the weld you are looking at is on top of the adjoining weld in the other long plate.  In any event the most important welds are the ones on the small bottom plate where the beam will rest.  I fully welded both inside and outside seams on those..


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« Reply #1904 on: June 13, 2020, 09:01:45 PM »
I don’t think it’s going anywhere. Just constructive criticism, I know you’re anal about quality of your work so just trying to help as all. If you would have slowed up how fast you were moving the gun forward it probably would have been perfect.
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« Reply #1905 on: June 13, 2020, 09:26:19 PM »
Where is your flops and wood table ?


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« Reply #1906 on: June 13, 2020, 09:32:09 PM »
I don’t think it’s going anywhere. Just constructive criticism, I know you’re anal about quality of your work so just trying to help as all. If you would have slowed up how fast you were moving the gun forward it probably would have been perfect.
Greatly appreciate the feedback. I’m not an expert welder and I want to get better.

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« Reply #1907 on: June 13, 2020, 10:21:08 PM »
Flip flops are not considered appropriate welding work wear?  :huh:
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« Reply #1908 on: June 13, 2020, 10:37:35 PM »
I don’t think it’s going anywhere. Just constructive criticism, I know you’re anal about quality of your work so just trying to help as all. If you would have slowed up how fast you were moving the gun forward it probably would have been perfect.
Greatly appreciate the feedback. I’m not an expert welder and I want to get better.

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« Reply #1909 on: June 13, 2020, 11:01:26 PM »
You have a lot of weld length so I am sure it is not going any where.  Were you pushing or pulling and what type of pattern were you using?  I'm guessing most of those welds will be somewhat exposed and visible.  Just wanting to help make them as pretty as possible.  The easiest way to make the best looking weld for me is to set my piece up so I am welding a bit down hill and then pulling the weld.

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« Reply #1910 on: June 14, 2020, 07:44:26 AM »
Mostly pulling and a little wobble like writing a cursive e. Mostly flat horizontal welds. Going to work on the next column and will play with wire speed a bit. None of the welds will be exposed. It will all be covered with treated or hardi when finished.

Part of the problem is likely welding outdoors with a good breeze. May pull it inside on saw horses.

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« Reply #1911 on: June 14, 2020, 07:52:37 AM »
Charles, only problem outdoors gas welding is porosity “if” wind blows shielding gas away. I saw no pics of any. There will be small pin holes in the welds. To help combat this try to push the gun forward. By definition pulling away the gun from the direction the gas is blowing can cause issues.

Bear mentioned pulling downhill, gravity helps in this scenario. It helps move the weld puddle in direction you want to go and gas is heavier than air so the shield gas tends to drop back around weld. So there is some science to back up his statement.

I’d try to keep settings the same and just move slower, watch your puddle not the flash of light and let it fill in a bit more by moving gun a tad slower.
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« Reply #1912 on: June 14, 2020, 03:00:22 PM »
What welder do you have? Dial settings

I like pulling my welds too. Maybe a little pre heat will help?
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« Reply #1913 on: June 14, 2020, 07:52:38 PM »
Lincoln pro mig 180. Today was better. Need to clean the rollers and adjust a bit. It still surges occasionally


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« Reply #1914 on: June 14, 2020, 08:00:08 PM »
By my calculations each pocket will have less than 400 lbs on it so I think it’s going to be fine.

Shawn I got a bunch of porosity in one weld today as though I had forgotten to turn on the gas. Turns out the tip was caked with spatter and once I cleaned it I was GTG.

JR I may preheat the column base plates a little when it comes time to weld the columns. Plates are 1/2 inch and columns are 1/4 and I’ll run .035 flux core for a little better penetration.

The plan is to stand up the columns and brace them plumb and tack them in place. And then set the LVL and nail those in place and then finish welding the plates. Going with 3-1/2x14 LVL/Parallam. Way overkill me thinks but I don’t want any sag in a 22ft span.

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« Reply #1915 on: June 14, 2020, 08:33:38 PM »
I would saw you ae fine, not bad welds by any means.

Watched a youtube where the guy lifted like 10k with a 1in weld on 1/4 plate just to see what it would hold. Never actually broke it. (carmarata)
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« Reply #1916 on: June 20, 2020, 04:14:42 PM »
Well. Epoxied the stainless all thread this morning. Stood up the first column and started welding it in.

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« Reply #1917 on: June 20, 2020, 04:24:53 PM »
Maybe stick weld using 7018? Flux just rolls off.
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« Reply #1918 on: June 20, 2020, 06:24:12 PM »
Yeah I’d like to get a 250-300 amp stick welder for those special occasions when it’s more about penetration that purdy


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« Reply #1919 on: June 20, 2020, 06:42:08 PM »
Did you put bolts on the thread first then you can raise post off the Crete and level the post with the turn of a nut.  Then put nuts on the top to hold it

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« Reply #1920 on: June 20, 2020, 07:23:13 PM »
Dave you’re fired. I thought of that after I cut the all thread but I’ve got everything level so far.

Two up. Two to go

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« Reply #1921 on: June 20, 2020, 08:15:14 PM »
Lol that doesn’t work!!!

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« Reply #1922 on: June 20, 2020, 08:16:11 PM »
I think you mean you have them plumb ;)
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« Reply #1923 on: June 20, 2020, 08:37:43 PM »
I think you mean you have them plumb ;)
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« Reply #1924 on: June 21, 2020, 01:13:09 AM »
Maybe too late to mention but I usually weld multiple passes on uprights like that at least 3. There can be crazy leverage on those plates.
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« Reply #1925 on: June 21, 2020, 11:49:52 AM »
Not too late. That was the plan. I laid down a root pass and will back it up with one on each side.

All four up and pretty plumb all around.


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« Reply #1926 on: June 21, 2020, 12:10:45 PM »
What do you have for a footing under the pad?
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« Reply #1927 on: June 21, 2020, 04:06:31 PM »
Nothing. 5 inch slab with rebar 16oc. Should be plenty for my little cover.


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« Reply #1928 on: June 21, 2020, 04:33:47 PM »
I might reinforce the corners with a little more cement. Just for a wider print since its on the corner. Lots of weight there and it will never show.
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« Reply #1929 on: June 21, 2020, 04:41:48 PM »
I agree with Charles, shouldn’t go anywhere and won’t weight much. Should be gtg as is, no snow load etc.
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« Reply #1930 on: June 21, 2020, 06:15:29 PM »
Entire weight of the structure is under 4000 so under 1000 per column.


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« Reply #1931 on: June 21, 2020, 06:48:41 PM »
Not so much the weight, just thinking about when the wind blows just a little like it does there.
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« Reply #1932 on: June 21, 2020, 08:19:41 PM »
I’m ok with it on the pad as is.   Five inch is a good bit of concrete,  I’d put a car lift on it and be ok


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« Reply #1933 on: June 21, 2020, 08:28:10 PM »
I’m ok with it on the pad as is.   Five inch is a good bit of concrete,  I’d put a car lift on it and be ok


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So would I, but not on the corners. Up to TRN, just giving our opinions.
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« Reply #1934 on: June 21, 2020, 08:39:17 PM »
5 inch slab shouldn't go anywhere.

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« Reply #1935 on: June 21, 2020, 09:05:23 PM »
It's probably too late to change anyway
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« Reply #1936 on: June 21, 2020, 09:17:55 PM »
It's probably too late to change anyway
100% agree. No pouring a footing under it really easy now anyway


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« Reply #1937 on: June 21, 2020, 10:13:28 PM »
And after the cracks appear it will be too late anyway

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« Reply #1938 on: June 21, 2020, 10:28:05 PM »
If that lad is like anything else TRN does, it’s probably over engineered even beyond what he told us. I don’t think he’ll run into any issues, like someone said, there is no snow load, rain will run off and not add any load, and I really think 4000 pounds total load for his roof is overestimating. Heck, Don said his trailer only weighs about 250 pounds or something, right?  ;)


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« Reply #1939 on: June 21, 2020, 10:32:19 PM »
Er, were is Don?
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« Reply #1940 on: June 21, 2020, 10:34:57 PM »
I have not seen him or anything


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« Reply #1941 on: June 21, 2020, 11:12:16 PM »
Last I seen on a island from a post from the boss lady he was tagged in.  So fishing?


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« Reply #1942 on: June 22, 2020, 01:13:23 AM »
Playing in the mall mulch?
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« Reply #1943 on: June 25, 2020, 12:44:33 PM »
Harvested a few tomatoes this morning. Think I’m going to jar some salsa.




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« Reply #1944 on: June 25, 2020, 01:11:04 PM »
If its really hot, I'll like a jar?  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #1945 on: June 25, 2020, 09:54:47 PM »
Dang. I just planted last weekend the peppers and tomatoes, and tonight cabbage and Brussels sprouts.
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« Reply #1946 on: June 27, 2020, 04:00:05 PM »
Well first beam in


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« Reply #1947 on: June 27, 2020, 05:03:12 PM »
 :likebutton: Those are awesome, used two of them when I built loft in shop. Good deal on front end loader, I had 16’ers and they brought the suck putting up.
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« Reply #1948 on: June 27, 2020, 05:24:20 PM »
This one is 23ft




It’s barely y’all enough at full extension. The crappy part is standing the beam upright from one end while it’s laying on its side. All while standing on an 8ft ladder. Don’t want to over rotate and have it go off the front side.

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« Reply #1949 on: June 27, 2020, 05:26:55 PM »
That sure beats putting them up on your shoulder!!  Looks good !


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