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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1050 on: March 07, 2020, 07:57:01 PM »
I ducked back inside to cut out around the roof fan and and install the trim piece, finishing that project
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« Reply #1051 on: March 07, 2020, 07:58:44 PM »
I want to laminate the underside of this plywood, but I don't want to spend any time on the "fluff" stuff. I know that time is limited and the frame is not yet built, nor is the fabric top to body piece even planned...
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« Reply #1052 on: March 07, 2020, 07:59:36 PM »
So this is where I left it enroute to munching some tacos with the grand kids
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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1053 on: March 07, 2020, 08:46:33 PM »
The 900 mm (36" stroke) linear actuators showed up finally. They will lift 225 lbs ea. So with 450 lbs total lift they should lift the roof, but I am thinking I need to incorporate a couple of gas lift cylinders to allow the actuators to run at optimum speed

Hopefully they won't bend the undersized frame you are putting under it. :laugh: :cheesy: :beercheers: 

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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1054 on: March 07, 2020, 09:49:18 PM »
Lights looks really good, great output

You said there is a part you want to laminate?  What is that part.  I can’t tell from the photo.   Your interior looks great


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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1055 on: March 07, 2020, 11:21:23 PM »
Dave asked for pics of the lights, so I turned off the shop lights, and it has no windows so I got to real dark, real quick

The shots show various configurations of interior lights on and off
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« Reply #1056 on: March 08, 2020, 03:19:11 AM »
Did you ever get your cooler you ordered?


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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1057 on: March 08, 2020, 10:23:07 AM »
Lights looks really good, great output

You said there is a part you want to laminate?  What is that part.  I can’t tell from the photo.   Your interior looks great


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That piece of ply is the aft "bunk" and the underside which you will see is still just the ply. Was thinking of going over it with some cedar. I think I'll put a piece of shag tiger stripe carpet in blue on the top side.

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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1058 on: March 08, 2020, 10:28:38 AM »
Did you ever get your cooler you ordered?


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No, but I didn't order it

I am working around a budget, so I was waiting on purchasing that until later provided I didn't have any major cost overruns. So far/so good. If I couldn't purchase one, then a cooler could get the maiden voyage done...

Getting after that lifting linkage today...Hope that thing works
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« Reply #1059 on: March 08, 2020, 09:41:42 PM »
So this completes this phase of the belly water proofing. Two more coats of the bed liner stuff and four coats in the wheel wells. The wheel wells will get a further top coat of a rubberized undercoating to give the rocks something to hit and bounce off of. At this point the thing is going to be coming down to the floor and the top is going to be going up
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« Reply #1060 on: March 08, 2020, 09:43:48 PM »
And look who showed up again!

The grease that I remember being on the plywood is causing me some issues. So my next step now is to take the area back down to wood, then spray it off with brake cleaner, then repeat the process as many times as necessary until I achieve a solid base to apply the two stage urethane bed liner top coat
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« Reply #1061 on: March 08, 2020, 09:44:48 PM »
Found this in the garage...Not sure what it is, but I think I'll use it for a place to set my coffee while I weld over on the work bench...
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« Reply #1062 on: March 08, 2020, 09:47:27 PM »
OK, on to the lifting mechanism. It starts, of course with the linear actuators which will be connected to a linkage assembly. First part of that assembly are the four linkage arms. I wanted some adjustability in the thing, so I cut down some 7/16 all thread into 8" lengths
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« Reply #1063 on: March 08, 2020, 09:48:31 PM »
I welded a tightly clamped stack of 1/2" washers to one end to make a rudimentary rod end.
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« Reply #1064 on: March 08, 2020, 09:51:05 PM »
I selected 3/4" square tubing with a .125 wall thickness. To create a non adjustable pivoting end I cut down some 1" X 5/16, notched the tube end, then welded the parts together.
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« Reply #1065 on: March 08, 2020, 09:54:00 PM »
I welded a 7/16 X 14 nut to the other end, the ground the ends to the desired shape. The first bits screwed into the threaded ends, completing the adjustable arm assembly
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« Reply #1066 on: March 08, 2020, 09:55:19 PM »
Next a short piece of rectangle tubing was notched and drilled, and the two arms fitted into holes in either end
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« Reply #1067 on: March 08, 2020, 09:56:58 PM »
The "rod" ends will be attached to the top and the body respectively, and the linear actuators will push in the manner depicted.
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« Reply #1068 on: March 08, 2020, 09:59:29 PM »
One side is complete, the other side to come tomorrow
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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1069 on: March 08, 2020, 10:47:33 PM »
And look who showed up again!

The grease that I remember being on the plywood is causing me some issues. So my next step now is to take the area back down to wood, then spray it off with brake cleaner, then repeat the process as many times as necessary until I achieve a solid base to apply the two stage urethane bed liner top coat
In past instances with fighting a grease or oil I found the sandpaper was still spreading the grease and most affective was to sand back to wood and prime with Kills spray can primer.  It’s mean stuff and  might be the answer



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« Reply #1070 on: March 08, 2020, 10:50:26 PM »
Will the actuator be on the inside of the V or the outside/pointed side?


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« Reply #1071 on: March 09, 2020, 10:15:11 AM »
Will the actuator be on the inside of the V or the outside/pointed side?


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On the inside, way up high. It's all very compact at this point (Hope to keep it that way!)
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« Reply #1072 on: March 09, 2020, 12:12:57 PM »
Getting closer,,,,,,,
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« Reply #1073 on: March 09, 2020, 10:20:15 PM »
Yes I am!

Finished the second set of lift mechanism linkage
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« Reply #1074 on: March 10, 2020, 07:41:11 PM »
Next job was to fit the base mount to the acuatorer

Starting with a small hole, I made a bigger hole of .75".

Then I drilled an oversized hole through the sides that the 1/4" clevis pin could capture the shaft inside
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« Reply #1075 on: March 10, 2020, 07:43:08 PM »
The extra cleanance was tightened back up by welding two blocks on the outsides with the proper .250" hole
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« Reply #1076 on: March 10, 2020, 07:44:08 PM »
Welded, cleaned and mounted
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« Reply #1077 on: March 10, 2020, 07:44:52 PM »
With the linkage arms attached
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« Reply #1078 on: March 10, 2020, 07:45:56 PM »
The whole thing will take up a space 78" long by perhaps 3.5"-4" tall
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« Reply #1079 on: March 10, 2020, 07:48:20 PM »
And then I realized I had a problem in the design

I wanted to fit the things on the long axis on top of each wall

But

If I do that, there will be no where to gather the fabric to the inside!

Crap!

So I think I may need to mount the things on the outside
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« Reply #1080 on: March 10, 2020, 07:53:16 PM »
At this point, I walked away from it.

Once I start drilling holes it is going to start to be too late pretty quick, so I have to really think about this

My first check of the acuatorer was good. They meet the IP65 standard which essentially means they are dustproof for solids, and can withstand a .25" stream of water running over them from above and be unaffected.

That all sounds good, but what about when you start mixing the water and the dust...Isn't that, MUD?

And mud has its own effect that tends to transcend the destructiveness of either of its component parts.

So, the warrant officer sits and ponders

But the smell of spaghetti ah cookin' in the kitch is causing this issue to fade into the background
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« Reply #1081 on: March 11, 2020, 01:14:28 PM »
Would you be able to mount them to your existing hinges in the trailer?  Make them just a clerks pin connection. Hook them up to lower and raise, once up, disconnect and stow.  When you are ready to break camp, you can hook them back up and lower the lid. They’d be out of the way when on site but functional when needed. Might not be high speed, but they would be out of the weather and muck, would still work and you could properly stow your canvas sides. 

Works in my head at least. I see the top going up and down. :)


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« Reply #1082 on: March 11, 2020, 05:01:38 PM »
Would you be able to mount them to your existing hinges in the trailer?  Make them just a clerks pin connection. Hook them up to lower and raise, once up, disconnect and stow.  When you are ready to break camp, you can hook them back up and lower the lid. They’d be out of the way when on site but functional when needed. Might not be high speed, but they would be out of the weather and muck, would still work and you could properly stow your canvas sides. 

Works in my head at least. I see the top going up and down. :)


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I wouldn't want to do that, but the mechanism is sized to fit along a longitudinal axis.

I am not thinking about it at the moment, but almost for sure I am having to mount the insect looking thing on the outside.

I never promised pretty!

Wife is leaving for a few daze, so time to spray the body. I just picked up the urethane paint.

Now that is a horse of a different color too. Turns out most paint is a bit of tint and a lot of filler and binder. If you remove the fluff you get berry, berry little paint. To get the three ounces per bottle X 6 I would have had to purchase almost one gallon of product and leave the store with like 20 ounces of the pigment. At the cost of a metallic Urethane, the cost would have eclipsed $200

So we picked an industrial non metallic color which matches and I got away with a quart for $25!!!!

It's here now, and she is about not to be so the lines are intersecting and BOD (Big ole Don) is about to spray bedliner all over his hand and power tools and likely get some on the camper too!

Let the games begin!
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« Reply #1083 on: March 11, 2020, 05:04:16 PM »
Oh and I have a plan to blend the praying mantis into the side scheme

I found some gray 1.25" heat shrink tubing, so the plan is to paint the parts black, then heat shrink wrap them in the dark gray to blend in with the coming concrete siding
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« Reply #1084 on: March 12, 2020, 07:37:50 AM »
Can you build a little tent room of plastic and add a box fan to vent your shop?


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« Reply #1085 on: March 12, 2020, 09:24:35 AM »
Can you build a little tent room of plastic and add a box fan to vent your shop?


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I could, but I just use fans to push household air into the room, then open a door to the outside. I turn off the HVAC, then open doors/windows upstairs. The wood shop is in the basement.
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« Reply #1086 on: March 12, 2020, 10:54:10 AM »
Don on the mud issue. Do you plan on pulling upside down? All the mech are up top protected right? Or put on little booty's for travlin,,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #1087 on: March 12, 2020, 07:35:16 PM »
Don on the mud issue. Do you plan on pulling upside down? All the mech are up top protected right? Or put on little booty's for travlin,,,,,,,,,,,
I'm gonna try my very best not to be upside down at any point during my travels.

A lot of mud gets tossed by mud tires. The good thing is it will all be collected by my camper and shouldn't mess up any trails any worse than they are ;-)
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« Reply #1088 on: March 13, 2020, 09:13:28 PM »
We got the thing on the floor today. Well actually onto four furniture dollies. The shop was cleaned which took hours and I managed to get the whole body sanded. This will be the last time. If it all goes OK, tomorrow it gets sprayed with the tintable rhino-liner.

It is also sitting at a perfect height to install the praying mantis lifting device and finish the interior fit out.
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« Reply #1089 on: March 13, 2020, 09:46:06 PM »
You have a link for the outside lights? Been looking for something similar but only finding the little ones.
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« Reply #1090 on: March 13, 2020, 11:48:05 PM »
You have a link for the outside lights? Been looking for something similar but only finding the little ones.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H362F74/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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« Reply #1091 on: March 14, 2020, 02:13:30 AM »
Nice but $20 smacker each, wow.
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« Reply #1092 on: March 14, 2020, 10:57:24 AM »
Nice but $20 smacker each, wow.
Concur, a bit spendy, but they seem to be a quality item and work well...so far...
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« Reply #1093 on: March 14, 2020, 06:03:50 PM »
So today was paint day.

As it turns out there will be another paint day to accompany this one it would seem

But for now, lets get into this

The boys and I worked the thing down onto some furniture dollies on the floor

And then I started sanding it so the urethane bed liner would stick
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« Reply #1094 on: March 14, 2020, 06:04:59 PM »
And I sanded

And I sanded

And, still, I sanded some more...
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« Reply #1095 on: March 14, 2020, 06:06:32 PM »
Then all the things which could be unscrewed were removed, then the holes filled up with tape and paper
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« Reply #1096 on: March 14, 2020, 06:08:42 PM »
Here are the materials that I will be using

Custom tintable three part urethane the new shutz gun, and sundry items
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« Reply #1097 on: March 14, 2020, 06:10:51 PM »
I opened the can of tint color and thought to myself, "self, that doesn't look like enough color to provide three ounces to all eight canes of urethane."

And

I was right
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« Reply #1098 on: March 14, 2020, 06:18:17 PM »
You must add 3 oz of tint base color to the can of urethane, then another seven ounces of hardener, and that gives you the proper mixture to spray.

Well I did that to the first three cans and it seemed I was running sort of low.

After wiping the whole thing down with solvent, I started spraying the right side which is perhaps the largest expanse. I was a bit unsettled when the first bottle was consumed and I hadn't gotten very far out of the starting gate. Two more bottles and that side was complete.

But the math was not working out for the kid in the Army shirt and breathing mask.

I mixed but two more bottles up when I exhausted the tint.

Needless to say I did not get the whole thing sprayed, and all of that put me in a bit of a conundrum. I may not have enough material to even give the camper a first coat. And silly me, I was wanting to spray over a second lighter coat for texturing and coverage of the inevitable light spots.

I got this far:
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Re: OverLanding Camper Build
« Reply #1099 on: March 14, 2020, 06:23:03 PM »
The freelance stuff ahead of the main body of spraying was just running the remainder of light spray out of the gun and getting it to stick to something.

So now I have to rethink all of this.

Here's what I'm going to do:

First thing monday I will dity-mau over to the pante stor and get them to mix me up a bit more of the color. But this time I am going to also pick up a gallon of single stage urethane paint in the matching color of the Suburban, metallic and all.

I'll run the bed liner product out and if necessary, finish with some raptor black I have, then shoot two top coats of urethane paint. Not an optimum solution, but these are desperate times.

So onward and upward!


Edit: I just found another gallon of the stuff, so I should be good to fire it up with the pigment and finish the job on Monday
« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 07:08:57 PM by Flyin6 »
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