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JR · « **Reply #650 on:** January 18, 2020, 11:05:36 PM »

When Don builds, you don't need armor.

Question, venting the heater, where?

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #651 on:** January 19, 2020, 11:48:27 AM »

Quote from: dave945 on January 18, 2020, 10:16:13 PM

Looking at the pictures, I think it’s a Gasland AS150. We Dave’s gotta stick together.

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Thank you Dave. Your a gentleman and all around nice person

I didn’t see the pictures in post #644 image 5656. That does give a clear photo:)

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #652 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:33:11 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 18, 2020, 10:04:53 PM

Are you really not gonna let me know what the brand or model of the water heater is?

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No David. Gas something...
I'll see if I can remember to snap a pic of the box mon amis
Kool?

Flyin6 · « **Reply #653 on:** January 19, 2020, 03:35:52 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 18, 2020, 11:05:36 PM

When Don builds, you don't need armor.

Question, venting the heater, where?

Heck, didn't think about that!

Good one JR

I'll check to see. But in any event I know of no scenario that it may be running with someone inside and not aware. It only runs when someone turns on some hot water. But venting would be easy peasy, have to read up, and I'm working in that area at the moment.

KensAuto · « **Reply #654 on:** January 19, 2020, 07:58:18 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 14, 2020, 11:40:43 AM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 13, 2020, 09:17:13 PM

Second.
Where are the links to these things?

here, got ya some links:

That's funny as heck

Trailer's coming along great!

JR · « **Reply #655 on:** January 19, 2020, 08:45:48 PM »

Still feel you need a metal liner for those wheel wells. Hate to see rocks and such doing their thing to that wood.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #656 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:34:37 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 19, 2020, 08:45:48 PM

Still feel you need a metal liner for those wheel wells. Hate to see rocks and such doing their thing to that wood.

Noted...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #657 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:35:28 PM »

First of all

Dave

Here is the instant water heater info:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #658 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:37:44 PM »

Time to set up and check the generator for fit and plumbing.

It's the Predator brand 2K unit featuring quiet operation, 1600 continuous and 2000 peak watts and a 12 hour run time on 1 gallon at 25% demand

It looks to be well sorted and built

Flyin6 · « **Reply #659 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:39:36 PM »

The cover comes off with three screws

I am using a full synthetic oil engineered for small air cooled motors. THis little guy takes just 1/3 quart which is kind of scary to me

Flyin6 · « **Reply #660 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:40:25 PM »

The operators manual is fitted to a waterproof sleeve and taped to the wall of the gen compartment

Flyin6 · « **Reply #661 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:40:58 PM »

And it fits!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #662 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:42:13 PM »

I covered the door with the sound deadener and added a second layer to softly cradle the generator during movement

Flyin6 · « **Reply #663 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:43:07 PM »

The foam alone seals the door, but my plan is to trim it away and add real weather stripping

Flyin6 · « **Reply #664 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:45:02 PM »

And the area between the gen and the electrical compartment holds 25 feet of 12-3 cable which will allow me to position the generator 20 or so feet away when not in california and other high crime regions.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #665 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:46:14 PM »

The poly sealant is starting to set up but still very pliable.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #666 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:47:03 PM »

I covered the frig compartment door with the insulating material as well

Flyin6 · « **Reply #667 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:48:32 PM »

The outside shower unit was temporarily installed so the plumbing could be sorted

Flyin6 · « **Reply #668 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:49:24 PM »

Started with two 90 degree swivel to 1/2" PEX fittings

Flyin6 · « **Reply #669 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:50:09 PM »

Finished the left rear piping, and connected the pump to the water tank

Flyin6 · « **Reply #670 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:51:57 PM »

Then over some time experimenting settled on this simple plumbing installation to connect everything up

There's still a few things to plug in, but they will be simple cut and splice additions

Flyin6 · « **Reply #671 on:** January 19, 2020, 09:53:35 PM »

Hot and cold supply lines are plumbed to the kitchen fold out. I'll terminate them with some fitting, then connect them to a folding faucet

Flyin6 · « **Reply #672 on:** January 20, 2020, 07:29:37 PM »

For tonight's installment, there won't be one!

Don installed a bunch of chicken n' dumplin's in himself and just felt like kickin' back and watch the night come into view

But we can discuss a couple of things

Bigger purchases coming up

Tires/wheels

Horizontal frig

Some thoughts. First sizing: The Frig needs to fit a space that is 36" deep X 21.5" tall X 19" wide at the base and 21.5" wide just above the drawer
The tires should be 35" to match the size of the Burb, and the wheels share the same 8 on 6.5"

Beyond that, at this point anything is possible. THe cooler I purchased before is too large, given the changes I had to make to the frig slide.

I was thinking about an inexpensive AT tire and steelie wheels. Keeps the cost down and can still be used as a spare for the burb

Looked at a couple friges, seem to be stuck in the 65 quart arena. the one I like the best is the IceCo 65 for 65 liters or 68 quarts

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #673 on:** January 20, 2020, 08:08:55 PM »

Don, curious as to the source on the fridge. I like it.

Lots of good progress. Starting to come together nicely.

Also, regardless of when water runs, I would really suggest getting the venting figured out on that heater

In reading a bit on it, assuming I looked at the right model, it is direct vent outdoor only. That area above the vent is going to get really hot and if there are any clothing, bedding, curtains, etc, near it the risk of fire is real.

Its outdoor rated, so couldn’t you surface mount it next to the spare tire on the other side of the wall there and plumb through?

Also, If I read correctly its not suitable for altitudes above 2000 ft? Just remember to include a valve under the outlet and inlet to drain the water out of it in sub 32 weather.

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #674 on:** January 20, 2020, 10:11:48 PM »

I really like the cooler also. Group purchase?

Tires. I believe you sad in previous you wanted to upsize tires on the burb to 37’s. If I am not correct? I’d say stay the same wheel and tire combo on both so they can all be rotated. Easier to rotate a set of trailer tires in to daily use and not let them dry rot like so many trailer tires do.

I thought you were mounting that shower on the outside in one of the boxes you painted already?

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JR · « **Reply #675 on:** January 20, 2020, 10:29:36 PM »

Why not mount the heater on a door (have enough of them, whats 1 more) Like the kitchen or Gen? Another option are quick connects and just hang it on the outside when needed.

Cooler and the tire ideas are good. Get good use out of them and something you can find if needed on the road. Plus that's a real fridge, not these 30 degree cooler than ambient things.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #676 on:** January 20, 2020, 10:43:39 PM »

I guess we could always see how warm and what toxic fumes come off by starting this thing up. Than since most things are exposed in the build already re configure if needed. Looking back at photos I think the location I though it was going is what your using for the kitchen sink cabinet area.

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Sammconn · « **Reply #677 on:** January 21, 2020, 07:51:46 AM »

The water heater may just need a heat shield and vent like on the generator. Looks like May vent above the unit and be a simple tweak.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #678 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:29:45 AM »

https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/safety_haz/forklift/propane.html

CO and CO2 in the sleeping quarters is no bueno.

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #679 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:46:00 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 20, 2020, 10:11:48 PM

I really like the cooler also. Group purchase?

Tires. I believe you sad in previous you wanted to upsize tires on the burb to 37’s. If I am not correct? I’d say stay the same wheel and tire combo on both so they can all be rotated. Easier to rotate a set of trailer tires in to daily use and not let them dry rot like so many trailer tires do.

I thought you were mounting that shower on the outside in one of the boxes you painted already?

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Burb tire size: I am going to stay with 35's to keep the overall size and height no more than what it is. I may, however, change the gear ratio in the future back to 4.56 to take the edge off, but in the grand scheme of things, I could just drive slower or put up with the higher RPM. I suppose the proof is in the pudding that will become self evident once I start driving it in its final supercharged incarnation.

Group purchase on the ICECO, maybe, I could check. Would you be in for sure? These are not inexpensive. I am switching to the IV75 model which is all frig and no freezer in the same size package but 10 more liter capacity, and that is listing at $806

Flyin6 · « **Reply #680 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:53:37 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 20, 2020, 08:08:55 PM

Don, curious as to the source on the fridge. I like it.

Lots of good progress. Starting to come together nicely.

Also, regardless of when water runs, I would really suggest getting the venting figured out on that heater

In reading a bit on it, assuming I looked at the right model, it is direct vent outdoor only. That area above the vent is going to get really hot and if there are any clothing, bedding, curtains, etc, near it the risk of fire is real.

Its outdoor rated, so couldn’t you surface mount it next to the spare tire on the other side of the wall there and plumb through?

Also, If I read correctly its not suitable for altitudes above 2000 ft? Just remember to include a valve under the outlet and inlet to drain the water out of it in sub 32 weather.

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Tex, you have some good and valid points.

To be transparent here, I didn't dig that deep into the purchase, and now, I must say, that may be the wrong model for interior mounting. I missed that completely, thinking it wouldn't matter given that shower and cooking activities occur mostly when one is outside, but what if?

I'm going to have to really look at this.

I see possibilities of:

1. Testing, to see how hot the exhaust is on the adjacent panels
and then doing nothing or changing it out

2. Moving it to an enclosure outside, perhaps below the right hand tail lamp.

3. Getting a unit designed for interior mounting

4. Giving the pre-rangers the sawzall and turn the whole project into firewood

Hmmm... ;-)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #681 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:56:37 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 21, 2020, 09:29:45 AM

https://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/safety_haz/forklift/propane.html

CO and CO2 in the sleeping quarters is no bueno.

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I know
1976 or 1977 a tank recovery vehicle (M-88) crew turned on the heater and went to sleep. It was the winter in Grafenwoehr, Germany. The following morning we discovered all four of them dead, inside a warm vehicle...Carbon monoxide

Flyin6 · « **Reply #682 on:** January 21, 2020, 09:57:18 AM »

Quote from: Sammconn on January 21, 2020, 07:51:46 AM

The water heater may just need a heat shield and vent like on the generator. Looks like May vent above the unit and be a simple tweak.

This may be the ticket...Good suggestion

Flyin6 · « **Reply #683 on:** January 21, 2020, 10:37:51 AM »

ICECO group buy...started another thread, register if interested

http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=4344.0

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #684 on:** January 21, 2020, 01:16:40 PM »

They do make co2 monsters for really cheap. Maybe ya buy one and mount it anyway. Some obnoxious gas from personnel could set off also lol

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #685 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:20:58 AM »

I'm using this handy and proven Eureka propane gas stove. To get it to fit into the kitchen workplace I constructed two new feet from angle aluminum

Flyin6 · « **Reply #686 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:22:00 AM »

And it fits well into the space vacated by sliding out the sink shelf

Flyin6 · « **Reply #687 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:22:59 AM »

Going to have to sort out the gas line which comes out on the wrong side to make things easy

Flyin6 · « **Reply #688 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:24:39 AM »

It will store in the kitchen closet along with other pots/pans and utensils

Remember the angle aluminum base which extends a lip out one end? Well that will slip into this groove to hold the bottom in place

Flyin6 · « **Reply #689 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:25:21 AM »

Next the whole thing was lined with the insulating adhesive mat

Flyin6 · « **Reply #690 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:26:27 AM »

Then the hot/cold water supply was stubbed out into two male 1/2" NPT fittings

Flyin6 · « **Reply #691 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:28:08 AM »

...Which are held securely in this block of Walnut

It is a two part clamp that can be split to mount, then the top screws through the base into the back board

Flyin6 · « **Reply #692 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:31:23 AM »

That stove needed a top something that would hold it securely against the aluminum blanket. This apparatus has two arms which are assembled in such a manner as to create a friction fit and require force to pivot the arms. Otherwise gravity holds them in the correct position to hold the stove in place. They actually fit snugly against the stove and nothing is moving at all

Flyin6 · « **Reply #693 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:31:56 AM »

And that works quite nicely!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #694 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:33:29 AM »

To secure the large pancake grill plate, I used a section of wood with a 45 degree slot to capture one side, and another pivoting arm to capture the other side

Flyin6 · « **Reply #695 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:34:39 AM »

And with all those additions, everything still fits with a closed door

Flyin6 · « **Reply #696 on:** January 25, 2020, 11:35:37 AM »

Next up is a fixture destined to hold a collection of camping pots and pans

Which

Was still clamped up and drying when this build day ended

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #697 on:** January 25, 2020, 04:32:14 PM »

How large is that stove? It’s either really small or the box you have made to hold the kitchen stuff is massive. With that grill in there it looks like a doll house toy compared to the cabinet!!

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JR · « **Reply #698 on:** January 25, 2020, 04:39:59 PM »

Good place for the water heater,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Flyin6 · « **Reply #699 on:** January 25, 2020, 06:18:03 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 25, 2020, 04:32:14 PM

How large is that stove? It’s either really small or the box you have made to hold the kitchen stuff is massive. With that grill in there it looks like a doll house toy compared to the cabinet!!

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Its not all that big, just a standard Eureka two burner. Quite efficient actually

Get both burners going and it will cook a bunch of silver dollars or two big flapjacks at a time