Author Topic: OverLanding Camper Build (Read 75035 times)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #700 on:** January 27, 2020, 01:00:20 PM »

Timbren suspension arrived this morning, did a chilly lift off the truck tailgate with ma traktore and shoved them into the garage.

Then went inside and ordered three brandilly knew Mr. Richard Cepek extreme country 35 X 17 tires and tree pro-komp whals in the 8 bolt patten n' 9 inches wide fitment, mit der 4.75 back spacin'

Next, measure and order der steal, den start makin' some electricity into sparks!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #701 on:** January 27, 2020, 01:02:05 PM »

Korrecktion. Order the pressure treated 2X4's for da frame. Spray on termite pruffin and slop on some thompson's deck seal and I'll be ah' wheelin'

;-)

Bob Smith · « **Reply #702 on:** January 27, 2020, 01:59:57 PM »

Not that it might matter but all the trailer wheels I have had were/are 0 offset.

JR · « **Reply #703 on:** January 27, 2020, 02:03:43 PM »

Quote from: Bob/OlallaWa on January 27, 2020, 01:59:57 PM

Not that it might matter but all the trailer wheels I have had were/are 0 offset.

Maybe for the trailer, but I think he is going for universal use on these. Kinda like the 1011 trailer with H1 tires for my sub.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #704 on:** January 27, 2020, 04:29:56 PM »

True but I believe what Bob is hinting at is the bearings are designed to have 0 offset and any offset places stress on bearings leading to potential early wear

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EL TATE · « **Reply #705 on:** January 27, 2020, 05:24:45 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 27, 2020, 04:29:56 PM

True but I believe what Bob is hinting at is the bearings are designed to have 0 offset and any offset places stress on bearings leading to potential early wear

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ding ding ding! but I get his perspective. cut a tire on the truck, you can ditch the trailer w/ 3 wheels, borrow a shoe and head to town to fix it up

Bob Smith · « **Reply #706 on:** January 27, 2020, 05:46:28 PM »

I actually was wondering about clearance in the wheel wells. wide tires and negative offset could lead to tire problems as well as the additional wear to bearings. But then again unless he actually uses the trailer it will never be a problem.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #707 on:** January 27, 2020, 05:58:20 PM »

Come on now, it’s made of ply wood. Just get out the sawzall and mak em fit!

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EL TATE · « **Reply #708 on:** January 28, 2020, 09:29:09 AM »

Quote from: Bob/OlallaWa on January 27, 2020, 05:46:28 PM

I actually was wondering about clearance in the wheel wells. wide tires and negative offset could lead to tire problems as well as the additional wear to bearings. But then again unless he actually uses the trailer it will never be a problem.

Wow, shots fired, lol.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #709 on:** January 28, 2020, 10:14:20 AM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 27, 2020, 04:29:56 PM

True but I believe what Bob is hinting at is the bearings are designed to have 0 offset and any offset places stress on bearings leading to potential early wear

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I'm planning on using hardened wood bearings. They should handle the strain.

The spindles are 5200 lbs rated, fitted to a beefed up 3500 lb trailing arm all carrying, what, 3000lbs???

I think the bearings will be just fine

And if not, well, I'll replace them and I was wrong

You people...!!! ;-))

Flyin6 · « **Reply #710 on:** January 28, 2020, 10:18:31 AM »

Quote from: Bob/OlallaWa on January 27, 2020, 05:46:28 PM

I actually was wondering about clearance in the wheel wells. wide tires and negative offset could lead to tire problems as well as the additional wear to bearings. But then again unless he actually uses the trailer it will never be a problem.

Believe me, Bob, I have wondered about this myself many times.

So

I plan to just fit the stuff as I go. Now that I have the Timbren parts, and today will have the tires and wheels, I plan to build in that area of the frame, then set everything in there the way I want it to fit, then place the frame member that the trailing arms actually bolt to in the desired position.

I could have possibly cadd'd the thing to get dimensions, but it seems I am the type who measures with a micrometer, marks with a crayon, then cuts with a chainsaw and an axe!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #711 on:** January 28, 2020, 10:23:47 AM »

Quote from: EL TATE on January 27, 2020, 05:24:45 PM

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 27, 2020, 04:29:56 PM
True but I believe what Bob is hinting at is the bearings are designed to have 0 offset and any offset places stress on bearings leading to potential early wear

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ding ding ding! but I get his perspective. cut a tire on the truck, you can ditch the trailer w/ 3 wheels, borrow a shoe and head to town to fix it up

Well, the trailer wheels/tires are the exact same tire/wheel currently sitting on the Burb. I have a spare for the burb as we all know, and I have a spare for the trailer. Gives redundancy and lessens the chance I'll run out of inflated tires. As for the bearings, remember these bearings are oversized for the 8-lug setup, whereas this trailer could get away with 5 lug. So, in a sense, the bearings I am using are upsized two sizes larger than needed and would be 2 or three times more capacity than called for. Again, I think we will be fine. Timbren thought so and also thought this setup was overkill for the application.

Since no bushhogs are involved in the operation of this camper, it just may actually survive!

;-)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #712 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:41:07 PM »

The tires showed up too!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #713 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:42:19 PM »

Three mixing bowls, err, I mean center caps for a Pro Comp 1069 wheel. $1,000 each or free, your choice to anyone who wants them

Flyin6 · « **Reply #714 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:43:23 PM »

Stack of Timbren suspension and electric brakes

Flyin6 · « **Reply #715 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:44:19 PM »

Here's that pot rack mounted in the kitchen cabinet

Flyin6 · « **Reply #716 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:45:09 PM »

That's quite the stack of cooking, eating, and drinking vessels

Flyin6 · « **Reply #717 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:47:01 PM »

So here is the faucet loosely attached to the supply fittings. I think I either got the wrong part or ordered the wrong faucet, because the pipe swivels, but the base does not pivot, so I'll have to get creative with the mounting of that thing.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #718 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:49:33 PM »

To start with something I glued up this stack of Chestnut which has a hole the size of the mounting bib in the first two pieces, then a larger one in the remaining three to allow for the nut to tuck inside the cavity. Once all this business dries, I think I'll cut it into some angle and find a way to mount it to the table so that it allows everything to still fit and have the door securely close

Flyin6 · « **Reply #719 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:50:51 PM »

Since that was drying, I unrolled the EPDM Rubber onto the roof to allow it to settle out prior to cutting and gluing

Flyin6 · « **Reply #720 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:51:18 PM »

This is the 60 mil stuff

Flyin6 · « **Reply #721 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:52:49 PM »

And here is the Dicor, the proper adhesive for rubber against a porous wood surface. I took it out of the freezer where it was stored safely for a couple weeks ;-)

JR · « **Reply #722 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:53:54 PM »

Crank up the heater!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #723 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:55:26 PM »

The technique is to apply the adhesive with a paint roller onto both the surface and the EPDM. Put the tow together by rolling the rubber sheet over the glue surface. Then I rolled the dry side of the rubber with a fresh paint roller to push out all the air pockets and get a good contact. It worked!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #724 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:56:20 PM »

Front half done

Flyin6 · « **Reply #725 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:58:27 PM »

Repeat the process on the back half and just like that you're all done

With Caveat

I only glued to the flat surfaces. I have to study and learn how to glue up the sides and corners since there is a heavy flap there that may need some special cut.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #726 on:** January 28, 2020, 07:59:52 PM »

Found the generator tool kit about to get chewed up by the new f#$)!@#!! puppy, so I snatched it, literally out of the jaws of death and taped it to the door of the Gen compartment.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #727 on:** January 28, 2020, 08:01:20 PM »

Then I popped a couple of shut off valves to control water supply to the kitchen faucet

Flyin6 · « **Reply #728 on:** January 28, 2020, 08:02:56 PM »

1st attempt at a wash basin failed miserably. Just a tad too big I think!

It's a 30 quart. I just ordered a 24 quart. See if that fits better

Flyin6 · « **Reply #729 on:** January 28, 2020, 08:04:29 PM »

So, anyone know how to paint rubber?

Can it be done?

I'd like to make that a light gray to prevent summer heat build up.

KensAuto · « **Reply #730 on:** January 28, 2020, 09:19:06 PM »

Roof looks great. Good choice IMO.

stlaser · « **Reply #731 on:** January 28, 2020, 09:44:44 PM »

I like the roof, I wouldn’t paint it.....

JR · « **Reply #732 on:** January 28, 2020, 10:51:57 PM »

You can get a white EDM coating for it almost anywhere.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #733 on:** January 29, 2020, 09:43:31 AM »

Quote from: JR on January 28, 2020, 10:51:57 PM

You can get a white EDM coating for it almost anywhere.

Hmmm. If I can get white, I may be able to tint it.

So when I install the solar panels and maybe a hard deck somewhere to stand on, I'd want to put something on the "feet" to pad it. Was thinking I'd glue on some of the left over rubber pad. But I could paint that and get a partial coverage without painting everything.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #734 on:** January 29, 2020, 09:46:41 AM »

Have to get the belly painted and coated so I can set it down.

Then job 1 will be to figure out the roof raising/assist system. Those electric actuators would do it, but are active and require electrons. Gas cylinders would be passive and need nothing except for the parked/capture clamps to be released...

Measuring for steel this morning. Ready to order that. So 1" X 1" is G-T-G?

;-)

stlaser · « **Reply #735 on:** January 29, 2020, 10:02:51 AM »

It’s a good laugh but if you could spread out the load a bit from the timbren mounts it’s would probably be fine.....

If you’ve ever looked under an aluminum (exiss) enclosed trailer it’s what they do by have a subframe of steel for the axle mounts that bolt to the aluminum structure.

JR · « **Reply #736 on:** January 29, 2020, 10:46:12 AM »

Roger, 1'x1'

Flyin6 · « **Reply #737 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:12:38 AM »

Here is the generator extension cable with an incorporated ground wire. Used the wire loom sheath to keep it all organized and spiral wrapped the ground wire around the 12 gage cable

Flyin6 · « **Reply #738 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:15:05 AM »

Using a spare new extension instead of the romex, connected the shore power to the hot bus

Flyin6 · « **Reply #739 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:16:36 AM »

I may have to disconnect the cables and redo if I find out this box uses bulkhead fittings, but I obviously didn't have any, and, its plastic, so no shorting on the case is possible anyway

Flyin6 · « **Reply #740 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:17:31 AM »

I'm using sheathed clamps to keep cables about where I want them to stay

Flyin6 · « **Reply #741 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:19:16 AM »

NExt, I threw in some LED light fixtures made for marine use in some cabinets

Flyin6 · « **Reply #742 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:20:17 AM »

The kitchen, pantry...

Flyin6 · « **Reply #743 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:21:52 AM »

Then the electrical compartment

Flyin6 · « **Reply #744 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:25:13 AM »

And then this simple GFCI outlet that plugs directly into the large inverter to supply power to the air conditioner and the frig

Flyin6 · « **Reply #745 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:26:40 AM »

Keeping the wiring straight

Flyin6 · « **Reply #746 on:** January 31, 2020, 10:27:54 AM »

And noticed a good spot to mount a lamp I could use to illuminate forward if I had to fuss with the gas bottle or something else in the front

Flyin6 · « **Reply #747 on:** February 01, 2020, 08:33:22 PM »

Photo quality is poor, but the inverter powered up when I switched on the remote controller. And for the first test, I turned on the air conditioner...It worked!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #748 on:** February 01, 2020, 08:34:35 PM »

I came up with these rotating dogs to help hold the wires in place while I pull and sort them

Flyin6 · « **Reply #749 on:** February 01, 2020, 08:41:36 PM »

Here is how that faucet mounting block is progressing:

I need to purchase a folding faucet, this one was the wrong part