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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2019, 02:00:40 PM »
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2019, 03:31:48 PM »
I don't want to pull the air from the fender, but guess I could block that side off and run a tube to where I want.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2019, 04:31:31 PM »
It gives ya a start point, you could do like that dodge green truck we used to get excited about and build a snorkel?


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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2019, 04:37:20 PM »
Not sure about a snorkel, does that green thing run??

Looking at pulling air from the inlet area below the window. Could always add to that.

The KnN 38-2006S looks interesting, but need the R version in that size.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2019, 01:48:54 AM »
Even though the 6BT is planned for this, I decided to get the stock setup working as best I could for now. To much on the plate for full swap right now.

With that in mind, I ordered a banks exhaust manifold for the turbo. It will allow the turbo to be turned and moved forward. This will allow better flow and let me put the AC back in working order.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2019, 02:08:56 AM »
I also pulled the front springs off for the new springs as this thing has about a 4in rake right now. New springs are a 6in lift with and added military wrap and I removed the short spring on the bottom since I don't have a 1k engine in there now.

Naturally the mount had to be drilled out to 9/16. Throwing in the greaseable bolts after cutting the stocks out. A 8lb sledge would budge them, rears were fine.

Ordered new engine mount poly inserts as the current seemed to be crushed. After these go in I need to address the shift linkage as it has a rake to it (probably 4l80 swap).

Spooged up the steering damper jacking it up, so a replacement is on my summit order with new bump stops for the lift. Nice thing is the shocks seem plenty long.   
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2019, 08:17:42 AM »
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2019, 07:26:49 PM »
So far so good?   No flip flops for working huh?


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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2019, 10:21:56 PM »
I don't understand working on stuff like this without shoes of some type. I was moving the H1 tires today and one layed over on my foot, thought it was broke at first. Pulled what feels like my hamstring, sucks getting old.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2019, 10:36:58 PM »
Well, 2 steps forward and 1 back. Got all new hardware for the springs, then found the rear leaf spring bushing is shot and need to order.

Then new springs with military wrap will rub on the frame, so I need to make new shackles. We have a cool metal shop here in town. Cost $6 for 4 pieces of 2x1/4x61/2 bar. Just need to round the corners and drill holes.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2019, 05:38:52 PM »
So far so good?   No flip flops for working huh?


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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2019, 05:45:24 PM »
So far so good?   No flip flops for working huh?


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Or for hippies working on 1/4 ton vehicles.
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« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2019, 06:51:23 PM »
So far so good?   No flip flops for working huh?


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Dave, flip flops are summer welding gear.... :knucklehead:
Or for hippies working on 1/4 ton vehicles.

Hey now, with the Currie 9 and HD OME coil springs I’m sure it’s at least 1/3 of a ton rating! Hard to get any respect around here.... :tongue:
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2019, 10:33:03 PM »
Well, popped that out as I had new bushings in hand, then the 2 steps back hit again   :huh:

The frame mount is shot. Not really that unexpected, but that put me on hold again.

Now who's to get? LMC truck has the stocks for $50 each, DiYx4 has a pair for $114 with new bushings.

Thinking I may just slide the axle up an inch now too. That was the plan with the H1 tires.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2019, 01:29:15 AM »
What's wrong with it Jr? Can't tell in the pic... did it wear through the tube?
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« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2019, 03:59:24 AM »
What's wrong with it Jr? Can't tell in the pic... did it wear through the tube?

The bushings are worn clean through and the sleeve was riding a good 1/16 into the mount. Not surprized, it is 34 years old,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2019, 08:47:36 AM »
Are Kurt’s parts an upgrade from stock JR?
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« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2019, 09:13:05 AM »
Why not try out those sliding leaf spring hangers in it Jr?


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« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2019, 02:09:30 PM »
Shackles are fine on this setup, need the height.

Kurt, is that DIY4x ?

Yes they are supposed to be an upgrade from the stock cast piece and they have the front hangers too.
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Re: Spartan part 2, Suburban build.
« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2019, 02:25:42 PM »
Shackles are fine on this setup, need the height.

Kurt, is that DIY4x ?

Yes they are supposed to be an upgrade from the stock cast piece and they have the front hangers too.

Yeah, sorry JR I should have stated that better. He does nice work, if you’re gunna fix it might as well upgrade it.
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« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2019, 02:30:09 PM »
Funny how simple things like fluid changes and leaf spring swaps get outa hand.
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« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2019, 05:16:15 PM »
Ordered new front hangers, new rear frame hangers and some J shackles since the axle is moving forward. So much for saving on the shackles, but puts me where I need to be later too.
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« Reply #72 on: February 26, 2019, 08:49:11 PM »
Just waiting on parts and watching the rain.
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« Reply #73 on: February 27, 2019, 10:03:45 AM »
Funny how simple things like fluid changes and leaf spring swaps get outa hand.
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« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2019, 10:47:24 PM »
Some parts came in, clear outside but still need the big parts.

They come tomorrow, when the rain starts again,,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2019, 05:21:25 PM »
Rest of my parts showed up. The DIY4x stuff is really nice. Got some angle 1/4 iron to attach the front hangers.

Rain started again as I go the front up and blew off few more parts.

Will need to drop the sway bar and found it already has a raised steering arm. The 4in springs are about 2-3in under the mounts with the new springs right on the frame.
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« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2019, 06:46:13 PM »
New springs look good.  How much arch difference? Compared to the old saggy springs


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« Reply #77 on: March 03, 2019, 08:15:32 PM »
The new springs have 3in more arch than what looks like 4in lift springs. Sure they will settle some but I like the look right now. Will probably be a little stiffer.

Tried a little body work on the drivers rear door. Pulled out a lot of it using the HF stud tool, but still not really that good. Still has a couple pockets that are not pulling out and you cannot get behind it. No repair panels are out there for this and china doors (poor quality) are $400. Will play with it a little more, skim it with bondo and see how it holds up. Can always get a scrap yard door.

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« Reply #78 on: March 03, 2019, 08:22:45 PM »
JR, to do that right skin needs to come off and be worked out as you know. Not sure I would go bondo route unless it’s a quick fix to move it down the road.
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« Reply #79 on: March 03, 2019, 08:41:32 PM »
Yep, looking at the damage from the pins I think I will get some holes from them. Half of them pulled off when pulling. Bad part is still about 3/8 deep.

A skin would be better, but a door is probably in the future. It has a few pins left on it now and I threw a coat of primer on it for now.

Tomorrow I am going to cut the spring hangers off.
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« Reply #80 on: March 03, 2019, 09:35:57 PM »
JR, our lot has at least 3 burbs like that. If you need something I’ll go get it for you.... including doors.

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« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2019, 12:39:26 PM »
Thx, I have plenty of access to yards out here if I go that way.
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« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2019, 01:12:36 PM »
Go that way, there is plenty of good Sheetmetal out here, invest the time in something good!

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« Reply #83 on: March 06, 2019, 11:15:35 AM »
Looking a little more at the door I thing it will be OK. Has one real pocket to fill but the rest is real only a skim coat probably 1/8 at the most.

Addressing the coolers too. This has an Oil Cooler but is the tube style, plumbed bad and retains oil during a change.

Will swap out that for a 11x8x1.25 plate cooler (same size) and redo the lines for a straight shot forward, not near the exhaust.
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« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2019, 09:08:16 PM »
Ordered a ORD steering box brace and the plates. My frame is fine from what I can see but I about to bolt some heavy stuff on there.

Will just mount the outer plate and the brace. Already has a high steer arm on the knuckle, hopefully that is enough with the new springs and a new steering stabilizer as the stock one is leaking because someone jacked the axle up with it!!
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« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2019, 09:10:42 PM »
JR, our lot has at least 3 burbs like that. If you need something I’ll go get it for you.... including doors.

You know, I could use a couple roof bows. I have 1 but looks like I will need 3 so I can DIY the thing.
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« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2019, 10:46:14 PM »
JR, our lot has at least 3 burbs like that. If you need something I’ll go get it for you.... including doors.

You know, I could use a couple roof bows. I have 1 but looks like I will need 3 so I can DIY the thing.

I’ll look next time I’m down. I need to look at some seat pedestal things and get some measurements.

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« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2019, 11:50:54 PM »
Sounds good, no rush!
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« Reply #88 on: March 07, 2019, 10:12:55 PM »
Got the rest of my parts but on hold through the weekend. Having an Estate/garage sale.

I need to make bump stop drops and sway bar drop. Both pretty easy.
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« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2019, 12:28:27 AM »
Well, back onto this again too. So much going on in the last 6 months or so with mom passing. Time for projects again as I wait on stuff for Raptor Ridge.

Blew the front spring hangers off tonite. Tomorrow hope to get to the rear hitch and hangers inside the frame.
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« Reply #90 on: August 23, 2019, 12:33:12 AM »
Found out the oil cooler JUST goes to the radiator, no air cooling at all.

Should I retain this or add air cooling too? Goes without saying those lines get upgraded.

The old tube cooler was for the tranny. For some reason it crosses over and does not use the radiator at all. Will for sure move it the pass side. Not even sure if there are ports for it on the Rad?
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« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2019, 12:34:45 AM »
Oh, any luck on those Sub parts?

Couple bows and the lock pins would be great.
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« Reply #92 on: August 24, 2019, 01:39:51 PM »
Forgot how nice it is to use the plasma cutter. Made short work of the rear receiver mess. These little bolts were rated to tow way to much.

Looks so much better without that hanging out back.
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« Reply #93 on: August 25, 2019, 09:51:49 PM »
So, you don't have an impact gun?
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« Reply #94 on: August 25, 2019, 10:35:49 PM »
But the sparks don’t fly wit an impact

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« Reply #95 on: August 25, 2019, 10:36:52 PM »
So, you don't have an impact gun?

Uh sparks and fire dude, who wants to use an impact...... bzzz bzzzz boring!  :tongue:
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« Reply #96 on: August 25, 2019, 10:44:18 PM »
If you use an impact right, you can get sparks!!  :beercheers: Besides that, you need to drop the tank for those front bolts.

Started with a torch, hense the burn mark by the tank (rubber burning)

Got 1 rear hanger left (well 3 of the rivits left) burned the heads off with the plasma. Using air hammer is working OK, but driver side space limited with AC lines that need to come out.

All the DIY4X stuff is ready to go. Adding the steering braces too while all opened up per say.
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« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2019, 10:50:24 PM »
Going to order the rear bumper tube this week. 1/4 wall 6x6 sq tube. Should be strong and hold some air.
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« Reply #98 on: August 29, 2019, 12:10:47 AM »
Looked off and on and finally there was a sub at a PnP up in Sac. So Tuesday I ran up, paid my $2 and found they had 2 suburban there.

So I grab the 2 rods I need for the door locks and both had the headliner trim, so I snagged em both. (3 is perfect For upgrades)

One actually had a fair condition headliner, so I thought why not. JFI they are foam backed cardboard stock, and get nasty. What I do is lay it out close to natural shape and fiberglass the back. Did that to me dads old blazer and it came out great.

So soon as this tree trimming adventure is over, going to get this thing back on the road. 
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« Reply #99 on: September 17, 2019, 09:20:53 PM »
Got an intercooler for a 90's ford that is wide enough to clear a narrow radiator, barely. For the 12v really but might help the dog in there now since it's turbo'd.

Ended up sending it back. Was really a nice IC but the turn ins went right through the rad support, supports and still didn't quite clear the Rad (narrow one)

So I need one without turn ins and just get 90 boots for it.
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