Author Topic: OverLanding Camper Build (Read 75074 times)

Flyin6 · « **Reply #200 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:42:08 PM »

Another view:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #201 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:42:42 PM »

State of the build to this point:

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #202 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:45:01 PM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on October 23, 2019, 09:28:36 PM

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on October 23, 2019, 09:26:40 PM
Just chops bustin in the virtual O Club, Chief!

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I knew

But it was a good place to get some factual information out there

Why would we let facts get in the way of a good argument (says every liberal who hates DJT)

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #203 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:48:16 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on October 23, 2019, 09:45:01 PM

Quote from: Flyin6 on October 23, 2019, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on October 23, 2019, 09:26:40 PM
Just chops bustin in the virtual O Club, Chief!

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I knew

But it was a good place to get some factual information out there
Why would we let facts get in the way of a good argument (says every liberal who hates DJT)

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #204 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:52:01 PM »

BTW, looking at generators at the moment for this camper.

So far, I think a 2000 Watt unit will do the trick

The Honda !U 2200 is the standard, but is also a grand

This generac lists for around $749 and is substantially less at Lowes. If I buy it there I get 10% off mil discount so this is a strong candidate.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #205 on:** October 23, 2019, 09:57:45 PM »

Do the generacs have tandem kits like the hondas? Handy in case you need mo powa later

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #206 on:** October 23, 2019, 10:19:14 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on October 23, 2019, 09:57:45 PM

Do the generacs have tandem kits like the hondas? Handy in case you need mo powa later

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Sure do

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #207 on:** October 23, 2019, 10:24:18 PM »

Waiting for purchase of generac. I’d like it for my house also.

Is the glue foaming In your joints?

As for glue tests

My boss continues to try and use glue on finished surfaces like the pre finished Burch ply of the white melamine. It doesn’t bond to anything and breaks very easy.

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JR · « **Reply #208 on:** October 23, 2019, 10:55:31 PM »

Looks just like my WEN, but will it run the AC? Just 8 amps but nice and quiet. Similar Champion is $400 at Cabelas, free shipping.

Like those gussets much better, but bet you could have used 1/2 on the boxes and so forth without using any strength.

Sure the wood will give long before the glue in your test too. But edge/joint glueing is nothing like gluing panel to panel.

KensAuto · « **Reply #209 on:** October 23, 2019, 11:58:37 PM »

Like JR asked, will it run the AC? Those wall units take a few more amps to get going, also.

Farmer Jon · « **Reply #210 on:** October 24, 2019, 06:45:54 AM »

That generator will do just fine. If you need more power then you can get a second one. Personally I would just go with a 3500. Then there is no question you will have plenty of juice. And because I over do everything.

TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #211 on:** October 24, 2019, 06:53:22 AM »

Food for thought on generator sizing too. Operating amperage is misleading on devices with an electric motor. What needs to be sized for is the LRA or locked rotor amps. When an electric motor starts, like a compressor, the initial inrush of current is usually double the operating amperage. You can usually find it on the label of the compressor or AC noted as LRA

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #212 on:** October 24, 2019, 09:16:48 AM »

Great advice folks

I use this, but have long understood the start up amp draw of electric motors. Luckily we are looking at small electrical devices here.

I will only have (Running at the same time):

The AC, my coffee pot, the TV, a fan, a small arc welder, or plasma torch, the winch, the outside flood lights and two electric space heaters, along with the portable air compressor and battery charger, oh and the water pump and water heater too.

Should handle that with ease! :-0

Flyin6 · « **Reply #213 on:** October 24, 2019, 09:20:27 AM »

^^^ Mr. Engineer!!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #214 on:** October 24, 2019, 09:21:35 AM »

I don't disagree with Farmer Jon about the 3500, but I didn't build a whole lot of size in there. Think it's gonna have to remain the Honda 2000W size unit

KensAuto · « **Reply #215 on:** October 24, 2019, 09:37:02 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on October 24, 2019, 09:16:48 AM

Great advice folks

I use this, but have long understood the start up amp draw of electric motors. Luckily we are looking at small electrical devices here.

I will only have (Running at the same time):

The AC, my coffee pot, the TV, a fan, a small arc welder, or plasma torch, the winch, the outside flood lights and two electric space heaters, along with the portable air compressor and battery charger, oh and the water pump and water heater too.

Should handle that with ease! :-0

Funny boss, but probably not far from the truth.

EL TATE · « **Reply #216 on:** October 24, 2019, 11:08:09 AM »

might need one of these: https://proteng.com/
rv automated fire suppression system

dave945 · « **Reply #217 on:** October 24, 2019, 12:14:05 PM »

Don’t forget your electric blanket and heated mattress pad.

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JR · « **Reply #218 on:** October 24, 2019, 01:35:01 PM »

Isnt the generac a 2200 watt with 2000 running

Errr, just got my keyboard wet and the new one is not working right!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #219 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:25:30 PM »

Quote from: dave945 on October 24, 2019, 12:14:05 PM

Don’t forget your electric blanket and heated mattress pad.

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Ooh, I did forget those...Got em! :-0

Flyin6 · « **Reply #220 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:26:36 PM »

Quote from: JR on October 24, 2019, 01:35:01 PM

Isnt the generac a 2200 watt with 2000 running

Errr, just got my keyboard wet and the new one is not working right!

Not sure JR. Either 2000 or 1800 running, should handle some light welding and popcorn poppin'

Flyin6 · « **Reply #221 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:40:17 PM »

That glue expands into everything. Crevices, empty screw holes, my back pocket, phone tap screen and my drill trigger. It does a good job of stickin' things together!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #222 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:40:44 PM »

Even foams up its own bottle!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #223 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:41:53 PM »

I ran around it with a #80 grit flap wheel which made quick work of the bubbly stuff and cleaned the surfaces right up!

Flyin6 · « **Reply #224 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:44:26 PM »

Next up lets build the front box

This thing will be a three compartment appendage that will store a cooler or fridge, and also a generator mounted on slides.

In between those areas, there will be a battery compartment and electrical compartment where I will store flammables and explosives...Should work out OK

Flyin6 · « **Reply #225 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:45:11 PM »

It will attach right here:

Flyin6 · « **Reply #226 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:46:34 PM »

I have hollowed bulkhead panels meant to add strength more than seperate stuff.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #227 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:48:04 PM »

The larger compartment is for the cooler. It should fit the large Pelican cooler I already have

In the middle will be batteries, and the smaller compartment will house the gen

Flyin6 · « **Reply #228 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:49:18 PM »

It came together pretty well

Flyin6 · « **Reply #229 on:** October 24, 2019, 05:50:36 PM »

I set it on a saw horse and slid it into approximate position. There is quite a bit of work yet to do here, but you get the idea

JR · « **Reply #230 on:** October 24, 2019, 07:06:55 PM »

https://www.amazon.com/Generac-7117-Portable-Inverter-Generator/dp/B071VNCWGL?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B071VNCWGL

Flyin6 · « **Reply #231 on:** October 24, 2019, 08:28:27 PM »

I guess they have several models. I was looking at one with a fuel level indicator and the rotary choke/run/off knob was on the side.
I was actually looking at some way to remote the fuel level output so I could look at it from inside.

I am adding a 5 gal fuel cell as well, so looking at run times of around 60 hours @ 25% load factor.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #232 on:** October 24, 2019, 10:30:04 PM »

Do they make these gens in a similar size that is powered by a fuel I always have? Diesel?!

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JR · « **Reply #233 on:** October 24, 2019, 10:32:01 PM »

These are on sale and getting good reviews;

https://www.harborfreight.com/3500-Watt-Super-Quiet-Inverter-Generator-63584.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiMjU0NDQyMDAiLCJza3UiOiI2MzU4NCIsImlzIjoiNjk5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6IjEyMTcyIn0%3D%0D%0A&utm_source=1021&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4319b_Unbeatable_Tool_Deals&cid=mEmail_s1021_4319b_Unbeatable_Tool_Deals&lid=15,610,885&uid=9ec29797267009fcefe0ca1bd499542e45162fc27b079d2846b2e92264e8ad15

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #234 on:** October 24, 2019, 11:46:47 PM »

That’s not a bad price Jr

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #235 on:** October 25, 2019, 12:10:47 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on October 24, 2019, 10:30:04 PM

Do they make these gens in a similar size that is powered by a fuel I always have? Diesel?!

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Ya, Onan makes them for RV's
I look for them but don't see many diesel ones laying around used

Flyin6 · « **Reply #236 on:** October 25, 2019, 12:22:12 PM »

Quote from: JR on October 24, 2019, 10:32:01 PM

These are on sale and getting good reviews;

https://www.harborfreight.com/3500-Watt-Super-Quiet-Inverter-Generator-63584.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiMjU0NDQyMDAiLCJza3UiOiI2MzU4NCIsImlzIjoiNjk5Ljk5IiwicHJvZHVjdF9p%0D%0AZCI6IjEyMTcyIn0%3D%0D%0A&utm_source=1021&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4319b_Unbeatable_Tool_Deals&cid=mEmail_s1021_4319b_Unbeatable_Tool_Deals&lid=15,610,885&uid=9ec29797267009fcefe0ca1bd499542e45162fc27b079d2846b2e92264e8ad15

That's pretty impressive JR.

I'll have to swing over and check that puppy out. Thing is, I believe my Gen compartment is 14" deep and that thing is 17" wide. So still possible to fit it by cutting some and perhaps getting creative with the door...

Thinking...

Which is unusual

Mostly I just stare at pictures...

mjmbrown · « **Reply #237 on:** October 25, 2019, 04:43:17 PM »

FWIW..... I have the Predator 2000 (Honda clone). I bought it as a back up for my onboard Onan5500 on my toy-hauler. I reluctantly bough the predator unit based on recommendations from a guy that knows generators & small engine repairs. HF had them @ 399 during some sale and it fit the budget. The expert said Predators are well made and nearly as good as the Honda's in terms of reliability. I can tell you Ive done nothing to that unit except change the oil regularly. It always starts and has yet to give me a single problem in the 5 years Ive owned it. I don't use it much for the trailer unless my onboard fuel tanks are empty and i just need lights, heat or just top up the batteries, but i do use it on the property to run tools and such if i need remote power. I always use ethanol free fuel in it and its been a trusty unit. just my 2 cents.

Previously..I had IMO the best generator ever (Yamaha EF3000is). Large enough to run a/c and so quiet sometimes i didn't know it was there. also very reliable. Wish i still owned it.

Farmer Jon · « **Reply #238 on:** October 25, 2019, 04:59:41 PM »

Diesel generators are stupid expensive compared to gas.

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JR · « **Reply #239 on:** October 25, 2019, 05:03:21 PM »

Quote from: Farmer Jon on October 25, 2019, 04:59:41 PM

Diesel generators are stupid expensive compared to gas.

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Yep!

dave945 · « **Reply #240 on:** October 25, 2019, 05:12:57 PM »

Quote from: JR on October 25, 2019, 05:03:21 PM

Quote from: Farmer Jon on October 25, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
Diesel generators are stupid expensive compared to gas.

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Yep!

You do realize that Don will take that as an endorsement to buy one, right?

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Farmer Jon · « **Reply #241 on:** October 25, 2019, 05:46:16 PM »

It's his money to do with what he wants.
I recently found that Kubota makes a diesel generator at a more affordable price. I haven't had a chance to research them yet don't know anything about them.
Eventually I'd like to dump the Onan off my toter and replace it with a diesel generator of some sort.

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #242 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:31:31 PM »

Picked up some new squaring and clamping tools

Flyin6 · « **Reply #243 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:33:25 PM »

That T-Square was slightly off. I had been noticing some pieces I cut were not square, requiring me to cut again. After checking I discovered that HF drywall T-Square to be off, so I replaced it

This one does multiple angles and locks down tight on 90 degrees

Flyin6 · « **Reply #244 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:35:06 PM »

About to get into a lot of gluing and clamping with no screws or brads to hold in place. Clamps are always useful

And this larger framing square is good for holding things on a 90 while attaching or fitting

Flyin6 · « **Reply #245 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:37:05 PM »

I'll be attaching that storage compartment pdq and I want a good nailer or gluing surface for it to catch onto. I decided to make up some 45 degree sections. First I planed some SYP 2 X 4's to get a good square corner

Flyin6 · « **Reply #246 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:37:57 PM »

Then I ripped them on the 45

Flyin6 · « **Reply #247 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:39:04 PM »

Then after carefully measuring and marking, I attached those pieces to the main cabin

Flyin6 · « **Reply #248 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:40:25 PM »

From the sketch-up configuration made on day one, I added a beveled upper edge to the box, so I cut it in on the box before it was attached

Flyin6 · « **Reply #249 on:** October 25, 2019, 06:41:18 PM »

Then laid in a section of plywood to give me that angle I wanted