2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3

[JR]

Just needs a spacer, right!

[TexasRedNeck]

Moving the backing plate won’t work as the e brake will hit the back of the hub.  It’s the thickness of the hub face that is keeping the hat from sitting back far enough to engage the e brake.

Shawn may be on to something if he could source some other rotor with a deeper hat but that may be a big task to find the ID of the e brake, OD of the rotor, stud spacing and depth of hat.

In hindsight the solution may have been/may be to have the biker dude mill the face of the rotor to make it the thickness of the factory hub.  But now that the backside of the hub has been recessed for the studs that may not be possible.

However, BDDQ, he’ll figure it out.
(Big Don Don’t Quit)
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[Bigdave_185]

However, BDDQ, he’ll figure it out.
(Big Don Don’t Quit)
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 BDDQEOSqD

Fixed it for ya


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[Flyin6]

I hate to ask this now... but is it possible to move the mount that holds the backing plate outwards? Just like I had to do with my caliper bracket on my 70....

Well, I tried some experimentation and nothing worked. The factory bracket has studs which seem to be welded in place so spacing the thing outward with washers is only good for maybe 1/2" then you run the risk of not getting enough material for the nuts to torque down on. I even got to the point of sawing the factory thing apart and after an hour of cutting bits off of it to try and get it on there, I had a mess which I would not have been happy with so I tossed the whole thing.

Nossir, the setup I currently have is the setup I will be leaving with.

Time is short.

[Flyin6]

Diameter if current rotor and hat height?

What cha thinkin'?

[stlaser]

Diameter if current rotor and hat height?

What cha thinkin'?

2005 Chevy express van rotor is about 12” and has deeper than normal hat offset.

[JR]

Yep, if you can't space it or mill the hub a deeper rotor could be the answer. There goes the nice slotted/dimpled rotors though.

[dave945]

2005 Chevy express van rotor is about 12” and has deeper than normal hat offset.

Would the 04 be the same?  I’ll check the garage and see if I have one left from my last brake change so he could check for fit.


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[wyorunner]

Chief, are you going to start a travel thread soon, as the launch date id think is nearing? Waiting until it’s ready for the road?

[Bigdave_185]

Chief, are you going to start a travel thread soon, as the launch date id think is nearing? Waiting until it’s ready for the road?

I think original plan was beginning of May.   Wasn’t it? 


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[wyorunner]

Chief, are you going to start a travel thread soon, as the launch date id think is nearing? Waiting until it’s ready for the road?

I think original plan was beginning of May.   Wasn’t it? 


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I had always figured when the pre-rangers finished up with school for the year. But recall he had to adjust for fire with the mutant axle problem solving.

[stlaser]

2005 Chevy express van rotor is about 12” and has deeper than normal hat offset.

Would the 04 be the same?  I’ll check the garage and see if I have one left from my last brake change so he could check for fit.


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That I can’t say, just pulled this from my notes....

[Flyin6]

Chief, are you going to start a travel thread soon, as the launch date id think is nearing? Waiting until it’s ready for the road?

I think original plan was beginning of May.   Wasn’t it? 


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I had always figured when the pre-rangers finished up with school for the year. But recall he had to adjust for fire with the mutant axle problem solving.

OK, to answer the questions surrounding the trip, I was originally planning on leaving Tuesday, day after memorial day. But with this mutant axle delay, I am in a floating mode right now. As you will see, a lot of the issues are now solved, but there is still some sorting, alignment, driving, fixing what doesn't work, recording engine data, retune, drive a bit then launch. I'd say that will take two weeks and I may end up uploading the tune on the road somewhere.

Travel thread, well yes, sort of. So I dodn't want to let on too much but the Real Man concept is going to grow. We are going to go a bunch more public with a social media site like a facebook page and a link to here and another separate web site called the garage, which will look like it is a part of this web site where some interesting things are going to happen.

On a side note, if any of you want to sell stuff through that venue, its approved. Just coordinate everything with me and we'll light you up. T makes patches, so does that crazy couple in Texas who goes around adopting Ukrainian kids. Some of the rest of you do things. That part will be our commercial outlet where eventually everything under the sun related to what we do is sold. That's complicated and is a project that I've handed off to a close friend and brother in Christ.

We are going to do some cool things with the money we make there. Hmmm, just had a funny thought...What if some of you actually did get paid here! Wouldn't that be a kick! Well all for the better, I see it as sowing into the kingdom and that is always going to be job one here.

But yes, I plan to write a travel blog somewhere on something, copy it here and send it out over the interweb. I also was hoping to get enough to write a book meant for fathers about experiencing their children, but we'll have to wait and see on that.

I have set my sights high on all this, but I feel a tug in that direction, and it's time to blow this place up and get the cool word and the way real men of Christ can have a snappin' good time while leaning on each other and walking the straight and narrow.

[Flyin6]

I started the day drinkin quoffee with my pre-ranger son, then cut the grass, then finally got on the Burb. I painted stuff I'd need later on. Bolts and the brake pads.

Here's what I decided to do. I took the pads I just took off of the burb, and in the ones that came on it and sanded the wear surfaces and the backsides. I cleaned them thoroughly, then painted them with stove-brite, paint meant for wood burning stoves.

[Flyin6]

I smeared a coat of permatex onto the axle mounting flange, then allowed that to set up in the sun for a couple hours. I wanted it more like a gasket and less like a goopy mess when I tightened down the axle bolts

[Flyin6]

They dried really pretty!

[Flyin6]

Oh, and Shawn, here is the decal of GLO proudly displayed on the back of Ravin8

[Flyin6]

The axles went right in, 12 pt bolts looking like they belong there

[Flyin6]

With the used pads, the calipers slid on about like they normally do with new pads. For some reason those supplied pads are a bit too thick. I can't say I have ever seen that before

[Flyin6]

Then I finally finish tightening all the lower bolts from the lift kit crossmembers. The instructions wanted you to wait until the vehicle was resting on the suspension before doing it, so I waited until the thing had set for a couple months.

[Flyin6]

I had a very dense piece of Walnut which practically mills like metal that I used to fashion up the overhead storage tube mounts, 3 ea.

I cut reliefs in the top and bottom of each to act as a guide for the stainless clamp

[Flyin6]

A single 1/4" attaches the mount to the 80/20 side rail

[Flyin6]

It's walnut (Read rot resistant)

But I painted the pieces for some protection and to help them blend in

[Flyin6]

Attached to the side rail:

[Flyin6]

And with the tube attached. Seems as though this is the only shot I took of the thing up there, I'll get another shot tomorrow after church...

I also constructed a lanyard for the plug end so it doesn't get left behind like all those unforgiven after the rapture.

[Flyin6]

Some pics around Casa-Don so you can see what has been occupying a lot of my time (Landscaping)

[Flyin6]

Yes, I like green!

[cj7ox]

Looking good, Don! I can't wait to get back CONUS and see some actual green!

[Bigdave_185]

How many acres is the house on?

How have you resisted bringing home some of those awesome stones from your farm and adding them in the house.  I picture a stacked stone arch over the driveway

Have you seen the water heater tubes that look almost identical to what you have built to store rent posts.   Black pvc, hose and a shower attachment and warm water from the sun to shower in while on the road?
https://youtu.be/dG2HK9JsAjw


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[Flyin6]

How many acres is the house on?

How have you resisted bringing home some of those awesome stones from your farm and adding them in the house.  I picture a stacked stone arch over the driveway

Have you seen the water heater tubes that look almost identical to what you have built to store rent posts.   Black pvc, hose and a shower attachment and warm water from the sun to shower in while on the road?
https://youtu.be/dG2HK9JsAjw


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My big house sits on 2.5 acres in some equestrian neighborhood. Nice place, but I'm a little out of my element here.
I work on stuff in the garage, no one else does. They hire everything out.

Have seen the black pvc shower things. In my case no realestate left on the roof at all...None!

[Flyin6]

I have a new flex hose so I popped the factory lines off. They had zero corrosion so I decided to reuse them

[Flyin6]

I stripped off the brake cables as they will no longer be used

[Flyin6]

Using the factory bracket, I welded it to one of the U-bolts that hold the air bag to the spring pack. That placed the hose and line in about the stock position

[Flyin6]

Then right in the middle of my work day my wife and pre-ranger decided to go for a hike. Look what they brought home:

[Flyin6]

That took its toll in time. Had to clean it up, try and comfort it, which was easy, heck it curls right up in your lap and goes to sleep!
No other son was back in the forest yesterday and came upon it not long after it was born. He said it was laying next to a pile of afterbirth. He walked up to it, and it walked over to him and started rubbing his leg. Trooper was trying to get at it, so the boy came home to tell us about the encounter.

Today, my wife the proverbial mother couldn't let it go, and it turns out the hike was actually a search. well, it worked out, as they went straight to it maybe a mile away. It immediately walked over to them and did the same thing. They decided to bring it home. We contacted a vet who said if mom has twins, she will observe them for an hour, then leave with the stronger one, abandoning the weaker to fend for itself.

This vet runs a rescue and Kat made some arrangement with her for her to look after it for 6 weeks, then return it to us. We are to nurture it for 6 more weeks, then either release it or keep it here. Dunno what we are going to do with another long legged dog, but here we go!

[Flyin6]

I made up a couple supports to mount the flex line "T" to and secure a section of line above the axle

[Flyin6]

The other side worked out well. Using the factory line to chassis mount, I simply threaded it onto a U-bolt threaded end and anchored the left side line

[Flyin6]

I hooked up the axle breather line, routing it along the new overhead cross member

[Flyin6]

Left side line, main mount for the "T" and the right side support

[Flyin6]

Picked up a four foot step ladder that will be strapped to the roof and be going along on the trip

[Flyin6]

As promised, a pic of the overhead fishing rod storage tube:

[Flyin6]

Next up, I'll connect the brake line and bleed the brakes. If all that goes OK, I'll mount the rear wheels and set it on its own tires for the very first time.

Starting the motor and placing it in gear happily spins all that business in the back. It seems like it wants to work!

[dave945]

For your shakedown trip, head on down here to williamstown. At least that way I get some attention from your cross country jaunt. ;)


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[JR]

Ok, I am a tad confused I guess. Your hooking up the rear brakes but there is still an issue with them rotor spacing?

I mean it looks great and coming together wonderful.

I do think the brake line is a tad long/exposed though.

I like that hot water idea too!

[Nate]

Jr, i believe everything for the brakes was working/figured out except the parking brake or the lack there of.

[stlaser]

You all forgot Don is a Pilut and he has two ground crew with him at all times on this trip! 

[Bigdave_185]

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[Flyin6]

For your shakedown trip, head on down here to williamstown. At least that way I get some attention from your cross country jaunt. ;)


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ok

[Flyin6]

Jr, i believe everything for the brakes was working/figured out except the parking brake or the lack there of.

Correct Nate

I am going to mount a trapped pressure shutoff valve, one for the front brakes, one for the rear. That way I'll have the option to set the brakes for all four wheels for situations like winching.

JR, no brake shoes, that is all gone. Trash guy just hauled those things off. That system won't work. When I get back, I may cobble on a second mechanical caliper and hook the emer cables back up, but for now, I'm going hydraulic. Hecked worked on my Chinook, worked on the jets I flew, works on my tractors...

[Nate]

You all forgot Don is a Pilut and he has two ground crew with him at all times on this trip! 

that's actually funny!