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Title: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 24, 2017, 12:57:00 AM
Kids all need their own rooms, so this takes care of that. Daughter will get this and it will be bigger than all but the master bedroom.

Pretty much on my own with this and it goes behind a 2nd story I put on the garage a few years back. I have no plans but what are in my head. It goes over the the laundry, bathroom and closet in the master bedroom. Total area is 12x16, but 3ft of the 16 is a stairway I built for this last year. So the actual room is 12x13. The area was actual built with this in mind and is close to flat. The highest part of the build will only stick up about 5ft from the ridge of the current roof.   

Hurdles are moving bathroom vents, HVAC vents and wiring. Much of this will be handled in a cubby next to the stairway. Another hurdle is the actual floor for this as my home is a modular and built with stick, not 2x4s.
 
I have this on a schedule of 5-6 weeks to get it closed in. Another couple to finish the inside. This room will also have a stand alone HVAC unit, yet to be determined so comment are welcome (like they wouldn't come anyway) Another issue here is a whole house fan which will be relocated above the stairway. I will also be adding a 1/2 bathroom near the door that will serve the upstairs.

Week 1; Roof tear off with truss removal. 3 days into this now. There are 3 roofs here  :rolleyes:. The original roof with a california truss under it and the roof I built over it when I added the garage.  First day was opening up the stairway to the 2nd floor and tarping it off.

Week 2; Moving all the above items and getting the floor in. I believe I will get to use 2x8s here and keep it level with the garage 2nd story. This step will show where my load is for the peak and I will pour a footing just to be safe even though I am tying into the load walls on both ends. This is the only real step I can see getting longer than scheduled.

Week 3; Walls. The room should have a center ceiling at 8ft, with both sides coming down a little. These will basically be finished when they go up with 1 inch foam on the exterior. That will also vapor seal them with just flashing and siding needed. Using Smartside primed OSB, matching the house.

Week 4; Roof. No fancy trusses just good ol 2x8s on 16 centers, about 10x12 roof is all. Stairs will be separate angled roof. Overhangs are 24" on the garage but I think 16 will be fine here and no gutters as it drips onto the roof. Since it ties into the current garage roof (2x10) I will simply drop it 2" down and run a flashing to the garage edge so no lacing the shingles.

I am figuring a couple extra weeks just to be safe.

The area is covered (still hot out), stairs closed in (but needs plastic sheet to temp seal it). Little camo to keep profile low.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 24, 2017, 01:10:13 AM
Here is an outline of the area. Orange is the stairs so far.

How far we got today and the youngest finding out what the bad smell is!

Both boys working (somewhat together)
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 24, 2017, 10:36:08 PM
Got into the real removal today. Also pulled the tarps back but left on in case of rain. They were saying "look here" more than helping.

All screwed on so it the sheets come up a little easier but you never get all the screws.

I built this so most of it comes out. Down to the other layers now.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on August 24, 2017, 11:29:51 PM
JR, you pulling permits on this or by passing those? Made a couple comments about neighbors etc.... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 24, 2017, 11:55:51 PM
Grey area for this. It is attached to the garage is which fully permitted (still open) but this is over the house, which is covered under HUD as it a premade home on a foundation. City gives roofing permits and permitted my 350sf side addition, which I understand they should not have done. They also permitted a 200amp box attached to the house when I upgraded and OK'd the service to the garage. 

I am good with the rear neighbor but why advertise. You could see the tarps from the street. When finished you will see an overhang, just. 

I am going to try to draw up a floor plan also, but I think you get the idea from the pics above.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 25, 2017, 12:09:52 AM
Ambitious.  I like it.  Any problems with resale for non permitted construction?

As for the AC, mini split.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 25, 2017, 12:45:19 AM
Not sure. It will come up sooner or later. I hear there are so many new rules now for selling a prebuilt its scary. Cross that if I ever get there.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 25, 2017, 09:06:07 PM
The smaller mini-splits look like a nice option. Sorta what I had in mind. Only looking at 150sf room.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 25, 2017, 09:17:32 PM
If I ever build another big house from scratch it will all be mini splits. They have 4+ zone mini splits driven off one compressor now.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 26, 2017, 01:16:47 AM
If I ever build another big house from scratch it will all be mini splits. They have 4+ zone mini splits driven off one compressor now.


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I like that since upstairs also has my man cave that needs the same. So I could run them together.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 26, 2017, 01:24:08 AM
Didn't get as much done as I would like this week. Probably about 70% tearoff is all.

You can see the last layer now and that darker old ply is just 3/8" and stapled on. Coming apart OK it just gets to hot in the afternoons (tarp was nice!)

See the 1x2s, that is how the trusses are made!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 26, 2017, 01:36:37 AM
I think the cover over the stairs looks pretty good. I simply cut out the roof over it, lifted and screwed in some supports and sides. Shingles are going the wrong way is all.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 27, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
Just came back from a scout weekend and found one of the dads is a certified engineer. He is going to draw me up certified plans for this for a little mill work with options,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 27, 2017, 09:25:25 PM
Very nice!


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 29, 2017, 04:18:19 PM
Got out early and have it down to the spindly little rafters. Leaving some ply on so I can move around some. Probably have to make some temp supports just to build the floor!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on August 29, 2017, 05:00:41 PM
Man that's a heck of a project there JR. Be careful bud.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 29, 2017, 05:37:29 PM
Once the floor is in it will be much easier. There is also a whole house fan near the center that will be relocated to the stairwell.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: rpar86 on August 29, 2017, 06:18:23 PM
So the main part of your home is a manufactured home, is that what i read earlier? Sure have a bunch of weird roof lines going there -- makes my head hurt just looking at them!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 29, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Yep, 3 roofs in all where this build is, Some of that is mine as I had to raise sections when I added the garage. It drained into flat areas that would leak.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 29, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
Looking good JR. Keep it up and keep us posted. Great life lesson for the kids. If you want something bad enough you have to be willing to roll up your sleeves.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on August 30, 2017, 04:43:06 PM
Got the rest of the sheeting off showing the toothpick trusses (1x2). At least there are a couple wall under all that mess.

Pulling the whole house fan now to cover the hole and need to move the HVAC closer to the stairs (left)

Buddy coming over later to look at for the plans. Tying this in will be fun
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Sammconn on August 30, 2017, 11:07:20 PM
Man are those trusses ever light!
Can sure tell there's no such thing as snow load. Lol.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 04, 2017, 11:18:17 PM
Finally cooled down a little today with some wind and clouds. No rain thank god!

Looks like the ceiling will have to come down as I found mold in the bathroom (they hardly ever use the fan) and I made a few holes in the hallway. Hallway was in bad shape anyway with removing the whole house fan and now having to move the HVAC over.

Big thing is the wiring. I thought I had to rerun a few wires but it is around 10 with a 220 included! Depending on the LVL depth I might make out some. But probably will will have to put a junction box in. Plenty of room for it, just more work.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 07, 2017, 12:03:03 AM
Pulled about 1/2 of whats left of the rafters off and made a walkway since I am down to about sheetrock now.

Drilled a couple holes to start the rewire and moved the 2 closest on the left behind the single rafter that will stay. Other lines indicate future routing.

Also added a new outlet below that in the master bedroom since it is open. Looking closer I found 2-3 wires are 12/2 vs 14/2. Probably the washer/dryer and HVAC power besides the 220v.

Ordered about $1100 in LVL and hangers.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 07, 2017, 10:26:06 AM
That's turned into quite the space.   The previous photos made it look small


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 07, 2017, 10:45:56 AM
That's turned into quite the space.   The previous photos made it look small


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It almost as large as the master. But it still gets a closet and a utility space.

Running out to get a door for it. Tired of getting on the roof then stepping down.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 10, 2017, 07:47:31 PM
Not as much done on the weekend with a cross country meet and the kids home.

Did get the door in, but found out I need to swap to a 28 (30 now) so I have room for a pocket door. Made temp walkways so I can wire.

All the trusses are gone cept what is holding up the sheetrock ceiling. Found some nailing was not so clean as in right into a vent!

Wiring needs a couple new lines from the panel. Pulled a vent and I have a clean shot to the new area with the panel almost below the opening.
Title: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on September 11, 2017, 10:29:24 AM
This looks like a great project. I will be following along. It is also great to see your boys helping and building memories.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 12, 2017, 01:35:26 AM
Had a little drizzle so I tarped it off. Won't stop a real downpour but it will keep the drywall up.

Tore some siding off the run some wiring. Having to redo part of the garage also as some of that upstairs mess powers the lights and 4x plug on the wall. Garage was upgraded to its own box sometime back so it was due.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 12, 2017, 06:08:27 PM
Got the tarp up just in time. Got a good shower this am. Water still got in but would have been a small disaster without it.

Trying out these push connectors, so far so good. Just as much prep but looks cleaner and no twisting.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on September 12, 2017, 08:37:03 PM
Those are good connectors. All the Halo lights we install now come fitted with them. If you have to remove a wire just twist and walk it out.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on September 12, 2017, 08:47:34 PM
When wire shopping try to avoid Home Depot. For some reason the yellow romex sleeve is just weak. It can be torn by hand much easier now than in the past. Even the plastic staples damage it. The wire at Lowes is the same price but much tougher. I do not know why this is but it has led to some problematic troubleshooting. I find myself being very careful when a customer provides us the HD stuff. Even the romex connectors that hold that wire secure in the panel and as a strain relief will pierce the hot and ground and blow a hole in the connector before it is more than barely touching the wire.

How would this rate for DOT?
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 12, 2017, 10:29:20 PM
You're getting there, Jared. Throw in a few sentences about unrelated childhood memories and some physical ailment and you'll be right as rain


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on September 12, 2017, 10:33:19 PM
You're getting there, Jared. Throw in a few sentences about unrelated childhood memories and some physical ailment and you'll be right as rain


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Also comments about Ken being in love with H, Don getting stuck on parking lot speed bumps, mulch beds and Kia fenders is all relevant as well. I suggest you refrain from SQ D comments until you can handle being fired by the boss.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 12, 2017, 11:52:55 PM
I'm a Lowes guy anyway, thanks. However DOT, not yet as your comment are on tract,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Now pod lights, where do you get em? I have been looking for the flush LEDs but only thing I am seeing so far is not flush and $35 a pop!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on September 13, 2017, 10:06:38 AM
I have heard can lights called pod lights. If we are thinking about the same thing i use Halo brand model H7ICAT. I have installed several hundred and have never had a failure of one. They are cost effective and very easy and fast to install and adjust.
I have switched to led everything on homes we build. At least as long as the bulb type is available. Perfectly flush bulb and ring is a bit harder to find.
On my home i am wrapping up electrical rough in. I have three cans on the front porch and three cans on the rear porch which i wanted sealed to keep wasps from building nests in areas i can not access to spray. These light and ring kits are led and sealed. They are close to flush compared to what i usually see and install. They were from Lowes and are utilitech brand so the jury is still out on their reliability.
These particular cans were of the remodel type which mount to a ceiling with 5/8" sheetrock. My problem is my ceiling on the porch was a bit thicker. To reinforce the ceiling and prevent an intruder from getting into my attic by knocking a hole in the soffit i did an underlayment of 7/16 osb. The remodel can clips worked with a little persuasion.
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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 13, 2017, 11:56:43 AM
Found these on amazon;

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S9I96P0/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3OG6M401VQ0QZ&colid=1Z3GNP120A3PC
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on September 13, 2017, 04:49:41 PM
I have not used those before. They look interesting. Not a bad price either. 
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Flyin6 on September 13, 2017, 06:52:09 PM
You're getting there, Jared. Throw in a few sentences about unrelated childhood memories and some physical ailment and you'll be right as rain and get banned




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There ya go, fixed it!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 13, 2017, 09:25:11 PM
I've used the utilitech and on a couple of cases they sometimes don't fire and I have to flick the switch to get them to fire.

I've moved on to retrofitting these

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KI4QD3K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

so far very pleased.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 13, 2017, 11:26:12 PM
Great, just got a Utilitech auto bathroom fan. I have good luck with their work lights. Lowes house brand!

Picked up the LVLs today including the ridge beam. Still have to rip them all to 7in from their 7.5in to keep the floors even. Was going to get em ripped at 6.5 and glad I couldn't now. There is still the 1/2 ceiling to figure in, plus add the 3/4in flooring (.708 actually).
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Tommy13 on September 14, 2017, 10:38:37 AM
Keep up the good work JR.  Interested in seeing this all come together.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 14, 2017, 12:25:10 PM
Wiring is really slowing me down. On the way out there now.

Only get a few hours to work everyday with taxing the kids and helping them when they get home. Plus it is ALL diff times, lessons, sports, scouts. Normal life!!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 16, 2017, 09:23:03 PM
Got the last of the double center joist out yesterday and traced the wiring out.

Having pull almost all new wires to the plugs n switches under this area. Rewired 1/2 the garage as 1/2 was wired into the house and its lights!

Did see this project truck for sale, kinda cool but beatup. Think I would have added to the frame and kept the full short bed.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 18, 2017, 06:58:55 PM
JR how old is your home originally?   I have never seen a outlet like that


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on September 18, 2017, 07:57:07 PM
JR how old is your home originally?   I have never seen a outlet like that


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Looks like a standard 220v plug for dryer etc
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on September 18, 2017, 08:26:33 PM
The plug looks good. It is likely a 10/3 on a double 30. It is nice to see the double gang box. I hate when we are provided a single gang box to try to get that deep plug and thicker wires to all smash in there without nicking wires.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 18, 2017, 11:54:17 PM
All the plugs are normal, just 30 years old. I will take some pics tomorrow, the 3 way in the hall is all that is left.

Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 20, 2017, 11:09:50 PM
I see that now


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on September 21, 2017, 02:16:22 PM
Wait, you're not done with this little project yet?  ;p
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 21, 2017, 06:31:13 PM
Nope, only get the AM to really work on it. Afternoon the kids are home so little gets done. Had a School social yesterday.

I did manage to spend $30 on wood and screws yesterday. Got a fence to rip down Sat and having it with this tearoff hauled off Sunday.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on September 21, 2017, 07:27:49 PM
We have more than one thing in common.....having too many irons in the fire.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 21, 2017, 07:33:09 PM
Couple pics of the wiring. All is in but needs to be nailed to the joists when in. I gained to feeds. One went to the garage which is on its own circut now, the other, I don't know??

Got to rip the LVLs (15 of em) and move the heater pipes, then the ceiling comes off.

Last pic is the old wiring and you can see the temp walkways.

Oh yea, to many projects! Love it  :beercheers:

Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 23, 2017, 07:14:58 PM
Got the HVAC pipes re-routed, was a real pain. It is the lower pipe that used to run up the front. The pain was my hand doesn't fit in there much. Had to bend the 2" pipe with a rosebud, then had my 12 year old guide it down the new hole with a 90 glued on as I glued the 90 inside the pocket there.

Ground off the 20 or so SDS tips sticking through from when I removed half the center beam (was 2x3/4 ply). Wish I had done it earlier as they have made me give blood a few times.

Pulled the dedicated 12/2 for the HVAC. Only need that 1 now since I have the 2 open lines from the rewire.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on September 24, 2017, 10:49:56 PM
Pulled a rope through with the 12/2 so as I plan on running more wires for solar later.

Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 01, 2017, 11:28:35 PM
Seems like this is really dragging out. Weather so far has been in my favor, so I am hopping for the best.

Few pics,,,,,

Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 01, 2017, 11:34:04 PM
Some of the stuff was a real bare to get off. This little thing was one of the worst with all the staples.

Then getting a channel cut and cleaned out for the first ledger. Had to be a hundred staple or nail heads I ground off. (see above!)
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 01, 2017, 11:38:54 PM
Had to slot for wiring on one ledger side and use spacers under the doorway as all the wood was rotten from water/termites.

Also bored to pass cat5 stuff into the house and ended up cutting off 2 ends. Thank god ATT worked today!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 01, 2017, 11:42:23 PM
End of the day I had one side done. Those timberlocks are cool stuff. Of course I did have a little help with pulling the wires.

At Lowes picking up a couple things, I saw this sword fight  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 02, 2017, 04:21:08 PM
Looks like a place to have a hide n seek dream spot


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 04, 2017, 12:00:39 AM
Made up a walkway and cleaned up the wiring. Had to rerun a wire as the end box would hardly move.

Putting ply strips next to the trusses tying it all together. (cut from old center beam)

The entire open strip there (9in tall) will be filled with the same ply and the other ledger gets bolted on right were the 1x3 will be removed.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 05, 2017, 06:32:13 PM
Ready to tear the ceiling off and hang the other ledger. Lots more prep work than I ever thought.

Got a buddy coming over to help, see how far we get in a few hours.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 07, 2017, 12:34:38 PM
Action not words,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 07, 2017, 12:46:48 PM
No pic with the OSB off yet as we got that up as my family came home. Far end of the ledger was dead on level with the garage ledger. This end (vent) was 1/2 low. We threw a LVL across both and comes out dead on now.

Nice thing is that 1/2 will allow the sheetrock to go in even with the current ceiling which we thought was going to be 1/2 low.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on October 07, 2017, 02:06:59 PM
JR, I thought Ken said he was coming over to help you finish this couple pages back?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 07, 2017, 06:37:09 PM
Getting there JR


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 14, 2017, 05:41:11 PM
Last of the little tear off stuff done. On the last joist and have to move it a little to fit the HVAC filter.

Actually screwed down the first pieces of wood and found this in the bathroom ceiling!!!

Working around all the old construction and not falling through is a pain. Wife is loosing it with the mess.

Been a little smokey around hear too. Fire got as close as 15 miles from us and we are not that far from the hills!
Title: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on October 14, 2017, 06:33:34 PM
Interesting find in the attic. A human head. I recommend leaving it alone and just box it in. Do not get a permit for that work or the G men may shut you down until they can get an ecological impact study done.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 15, 2017, 12:48:08 PM
I think it might get noisy for a little while but you could box it in.  It will quiet down soon enough


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 15, 2017, 05:34:21 PM
I think it might get noisy for a little while but you could box it in.  It will quiet down soon enough

Its like an iceberg though. You only see the cute part,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 17, 2017, 12:46:56 AM
A few random shots showing I am working on it. Haven't fallen through yet  :facepalm:

Did get a tarp today at HF, but rain seems to be gone for now,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 17, 2017, 08:00:53 AM
JR I’m nervous about having my new construction open too long although it hasn’t rained much in the 5 weeks I’ve been working on it. If it were existing construction and open I’d be losing my mind. But then I don’t have Cali weather either


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Post by: Tommy13 on October 17, 2017, 11:08:45 AM
JR I’m nervous about having my new construction open too long although it hasn’t rained much in the 5 weeks I’ve been working on it. If it were existing construction and open I’d be losing my mind. But then I don’t have Cali weather either


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I couldn't agree more.  I've been a basket case waiting on our house to be all closed up.  Luckily we are finally there.

It's good seeing the boys up there with you JR.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 17, 2017, 12:34:35 PM
I hear both of you and agree. Floor is closed up cept the HVAC. Still not sealed though.

No rain in the 10 day forecast, just a few clouds. Still 70-80s here.

The tarp in the first pics is just rolled up on the garage roof. 10 minutes and it covered, saved me once already!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 18, 2017, 01:53:17 AM
Picked up a little lumber, 2 windows and some sheetrock today.

Looks like a drizzle on thursday so tarping is on the list  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 20, 2017, 12:46:07 AM
Got some help with getting the wood up there. Looks like one more good load and the roofing.

Finished a problem area in the floor. By the door the ledger had to hang off the sill. Answer became half the ledger on the sill, then the full ledger screw to the old truss. Lots of screws and glue!

Trimmed around the door for the last OSB floor sheet that has a nasty cut.

Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 20, 2017, 12:52:41 AM
Found out my taxi service was in full demand today. Plus it WILL rain tonight so I have to do some tarping.

Just in time as it was just going to rain from 0000-0200, but this is 1900.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 20, 2017, 01:19:09 AM
So far, dry,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 20, 2017, 04:58:51 AM
Now we’re talking.  Making some progress JR. Looks good.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 23, 2017, 06:16:23 PM
Little more wood found its way up there. Opening is not square at all  :facepalm:

Got the main hanger up and a couple overhang braces.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 24, 2017, 06:29:54 AM
Man your moving along now, truss/roof framing done this week?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on October 24, 2017, 12:47:53 PM
Looks good JR. I bet your brain hurts from figuring out all the different angles.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 24, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
Looks good JR. I bet your brain hurts from figuring out all the different angles.

Yep, idea is to get it framed this week. Just got back from Lowe's as I needed 100" 2x4s. Ended up getting 2x4x14'. Cut em at 100" there which gives me extra 69". That is the height of the short wall so I don't waste as much wood.

Kept going back forth on what wall to build first. Will be the long wall the supports the center joist, which allows sliding the side wall shearing in.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 24, 2017, 08:50:41 PM
I’ve been amazed at the poor quality of lumber lately. Threes different stores and all are crap.


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Post by: KensAuto on October 24, 2017, 09:50:19 PM
Nothing like modern tree farm/fast grow trees with pretzel genetics.
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Post by: stlaser on October 24, 2017, 10:12:26 PM
Nothing like modern tree farm/fast grow trees with pretzel genetics.

Hit the nail on the head right there....
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Post by: JR on October 24, 2017, 10:28:35 PM
Using a combo of nails and screws. 3in nails are pulling out with almost no effort. Using that to hold a 3.5 deck screws after that.

This is my 10 year old HF nailer. Made it through my garage fire and never missed a beat. They even gave me a new case for it since the original melted (gun inside).
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Post by: JR on October 29, 2017, 12:10:09 AM
Got the bag wall framed up, tyveked, window in and stood up today.

Had a little angle issue with the short wall, so I used a couple spacers and all is good now.

Next 2 walls are flat so it should go quicker and there is rain due Friday!

Tomorrow I pull the elec boxes out and secure the wall. Then the ridge beam goes up.
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Post by: stlaser on October 29, 2017, 06:12:45 AM
Progress! :likebutton:
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 29, 2017, 07:24:56 AM
Now we’re talkin’!!  Looking good JR


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Post by: JR on October 30, 2017, 12:09:08 PM
Little more going. Expecting rain Fri-Sun so closing up is where I am at.

Got the boxes pulled through, trued up the wall and used a few timberlocks to hold her down.

Trimmed the beam and made a template to clear the SDS heads. Had a neighbor help me lift it and ran in a couple screws. Today I will true it up and start (maybe finish the stairs wall.
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Post by: stlaser on October 30, 2017, 05:24:56 PM
Looks good, better get on it.......
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 30, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Better just pull what Tex did and hire some day labors and be done tomorrow afternoon


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on October 30, 2017, 09:51:49 PM
There is no better smell than fresh cut wood. Well unless you are BBQ ing a steak while framing. You will be done before you know it. Looking great.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 30, 2017, 09:57:27 PM
take the camper shell off the dMax and drive slow as you go across a rail road crossing or busy corner in certain parts of town and there are usually 5 fighting to get in the back of your truck, yelling "trabajo"

Well maybe not in CA since illegals are not illegal.....
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Post by: cruizng on October 30, 2017, 11:42:55 PM
Nice JR. glad you got it roughed in.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on October 31, 2017, 11:08:05 PM
They are still illegal, PC or not, won't go there.

2nd wall framed up, will go up in the AM. Cutout is for the HVAC. Hopefully getting the 3rd wall up too (only normal wall)

Old garage wall is a little funky. Not quite straight and I built onto it so I live with it.

That gives me thursday to tarp it up again, supposed rain on-off until next weekend.

Had to finish this up for the youngest.

 
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Post by: JR on November 01, 2017, 10:38:59 PM
Another day and a little more.
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Post by: JR on November 01, 2017, 10:47:42 PM
Couple more teasers and a little oops on lack of for-thought.

The HVAC intake hoses come right up into studs! I just happen to start from the right side vs the left side which would have been perfect! That would have placed the hoses between the studs and the AC closer to the rear wall.

Wires came out OK, but I blocked the wrong studs!!
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Post by: Bear9350 on November 02, 2017, 07:58:11 AM
Looks like it is all starting to come together here.  You will have it closed in in no time.
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Post by: Flyin6 on November 02, 2017, 08:56:59 AM
I don't know if you noticed, but there is paper over the window opening. If I were you, I'd think about removing it and putting an actual window on it

Another note: I don't see any insulation, outlets, sheetrock or paint, well, no interior walls at all! Did you forget them?

;-))

Lookin' gud!
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Post by: stlaser on November 02, 2017, 09:07:49 AM
I don't know if you noticed, but there is paper over the window opening. If I were you, I'd think about removing it and putting an actual window on it

Another note: I don't see any insulation, outlets, sheetrock or paint, well, no interior walls at all! Did you forget them?

;-))

Lookin' gud!

I don’t recall seeing any carnage pics either JR.... :tongue:
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Post by: KensAuto on November 02, 2017, 11:30:50 AM
You going to move the studs? not many options
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Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 12:49:57 PM
You going to move the studs? not many options

Nope, just trim the bottoms to the joist (1 3/4 wide) for the hose and add some bracing. Screwed to joist there with timberlocks so it won't affect anything, just more work.
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Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 01:15:11 PM
I don’t recall seeing any carnage pics either JR.... :tongue:

Oh there was!! I dropped a sheet of ply on a pipe sticking up and broke it off down in the wall. Took about 5 minutes until I realized the hissing was not the toilet running with the vent right there. Thank GOD it was next to an access panel and was an easy fix. Didn't take picks as I was a little busy. Water only flooded the laundry room where the panel was and some of the hallway. Shopvac, towels and fans for a couple days of drying.

I kept putting off trimming those down since they will be rerouted for the future bath upstairs. I had them put in when the house was re-piped with CPVC from some old vinyl crap.   

I broke the one circled and they both ran up the wall beforehand.
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Post by: JR on November 02, 2017, 01:21:47 PM
Looks like it is all starting to come together here.  You will have it closed in in no time.

Really wish no rain was coming tonight. I need to true the wall I just put up and build another, then the roof. (helps to have the walls for the roof)  :azn: I am also doing this alone cept for lifting the walls and wood. Had a little help when I first started the floor. I really just get 4-5 hours a day on it and little on the weekends. My youngest has helped more than anyone so far.

I did score a sheet rock lift on ebay for $120 yesterday. I have the entire garage to do, plus all the upstairs.
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Post by: JR on November 05, 2017, 09:19:49 PM
Really nothing this weekend. Cleaned up a little, got the AC upstairs and made sure I had no leaks! Wanted to do the last wall, but moms alert went off.

5 minutes later as I pull up I see fire-rescue going around the corner. She's not answering her phone and neither are the neighbors on the system. Friend took her to the store and hit the button loading her walker!

Kids back in school tomorrow so I have a couple days, rain Wednesday again.
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Post by: Bob Smith on November 05, 2017, 09:54:35 PM
JR just keep working around the rain, up here we do it all the time. Wasn't all that long ago everyone around there was wishing for some rain.
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Post by: JR on November 05, 2017, 10:11:33 PM
I am working around it. Couple days off felt good.

Looking at using the newer synthetic for the felt. Less than $100 for 4 squares and mine is about 2 plus the stairs.
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Post by: JR on November 08, 2017, 09:45:11 PM
Had to cover it again for the rain coming. Did manage all the walls though.
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Post by: JR on November 08, 2017, 09:55:44 PM
Got the last wall up and truing then out. With a lip on the end both had to be pounded in when against the existing garage wall, but fit fine once massaged into there place.

Had a little notch on this wall for the wires and pulled another through that will be the power for the room.

Will have a nice little storage area over the master via the garage after cleaned out.

Has that room feel now with being closed in and tarped. This is the short wall at 69in with 8.5ft at the peak.

Now to do the rafters.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 09, 2017, 04:16:42 AM
Looks like you can work rain or shine now. With the tarp roof. 


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 09, 2017, 11:11:03 AM
Looks like you can work rain or shine now. With the tarp roof. 


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Yep and am now. Time for joists and wiring below. No bathroom fan sucks,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Post by: JR on November 10, 2017, 03:59:31 AM
Cleaned up wiring between running the kids today.

Got the bathroom fan installed (auto moisture run) and trued up the doorway wall. Had to make a mount for the fan or the hose would need a u turn!

Squaring it cost me about 2 inches so the pocket door goes to the other side of the vertical beam now.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 10, 2017, 05:37:38 AM
What kind of insulation are you using JR?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 10, 2017, 12:01:22 PM
What kind of insulation are you using JR?


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Roxul R30-16 in the ceiling. Probably in the walls too but it is pricey.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 10, 2017, 04:59:14 PM
Is that batt?  I’m a big fan of closed cell spray foam. It’s about $1 sq fr installed


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 11, 2017, 01:48:13 PM
This about about double the cost of regular insulation and I get the R30 in just 6.5 inch. It is batt, fire and mold proof.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 14, 2017, 02:37:03 AM
Tarped again but working on it anyway. Have to get this done, been almost 3 months!  :tongue:

Hers is the gap I have between the stairs and the wall. Used foam sheet to fill it in some, then spray in to seal it up. The final on this side will be when I redo the stairway roof, after the room. All3 sides are sealed with foam, then sealed with window type tape (that thick gooey stuff, then a flashing over that sealed again with roof cement.

Did get some of the joists up and have all the roof sheeting ready to go. had to do some spacing and add a 3rd top rail to get everything lined up. Going good now.

Should have both sides done by the weekend, then roofing and siding. 
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 14, 2017, 04:12:14 PM
Which hangers did you use on the ridge side of the rafters?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 14, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
It is similar to this one; http://www.fastenersplus.com/Simpson-LSU26Z-2x6-Light-Slope-Skew-U-Hanger-Zmax-Finish?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjICIrMS_1wIV2AeBCh2z7QWJEAQYCyABEgJrY_D_BwE

My roof is 15* and using 2x8. Just have the long side to do now.

One side done and the foam did its work nicely. We are supposed to get about an inch of rain tomorrow.
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Post by: JR on November 15, 2017, 12:30:30 AM
Another thing is I am using almost nothing but screws. Darn things are pricey but really hold. No strapping at all per the engineer like this

I used the nailgun on the basic framing, then tightened it up with screws. Sheeting is nails which saves lots of time. Sheathing will be the same but have a bostich collated gun for that.
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Post by: Tommy13 on November 15, 2017, 08:09:39 AM
Looking good JR.  What exhaust fan did you use?
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 15, 2017, 05:45:42 PM
A Utilitech (lowes) with auto sensing. Seem to work well and moves the air plus it has a 3inch duct to fit the walls and the LEDs act like night lights.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 20, 2017, 05:10:16 PM
Been working on it steady, but not fast.

Have the roof framed up, fixed a little goof and priming/painting the fascia now.

Have a leak over the stairway I cannot pin down. Have a tarp over it and I still get a drip.

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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 21, 2017, 06:56:01 AM
JR, often leaks are a long way from where you find them. They can travel horizontally for a long ways before coming out somewhere.  I know that can be frustrating.  Its looking good.  That lumber looks almost too good to cover up.
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Post by: JR on November 21, 2017, 12:29:32 PM
I am anal when I get my lumber. Drives the yards nuts.

I know where it is leaking from, just not how it is getting there. Right where I split the roof for the stairs. Whole area is getting rebuilt after this. For now I am going to tear all the upside down shingles off, put down ice barrier and roll roofing over it.
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Post by: JR on November 21, 2017, 05:39:33 PM
Tried to the fascia on today, but only 1 piece since we are doing TG today and I had to get grandma.

Since it was painted, thought it would go up fast. However I found the joists were not the same length, so out came the chalk line and saw.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 21, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
Yeah the builders I learned from run them all wild and pop a line then cut to make sure they are straight.


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Post by: JR on November 21, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Yeah the builders I learned from run them all wild and pop a line then cut to make sure they are straight.


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Yep, just what I did to true them up. Came out OK!
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Post by: Tommy13 on November 22, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
Is that facial board wood or a pvc product?
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Post by: rpar86 on November 22, 2017, 05:47:07 PM
Yeah the builders I learned from run them all wild and pop a line then cut to make sure they are straight.


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x2! Learned that trick from my old neighbor when i built the garage at our last house. He was a framer, so i learned a few tricks.
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Post by: JR on November 22, 2017, 06:08:24 PM
Got all the fascia up, roof time!
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 22, 2017, 07:17:41 PM
Looking great JR. I bet your daughter is excited to get her room.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 23, 2017, 12:55:11 AM
Looking great JR. I bet your daughter is excited to get her room.

Actually she is was, now is having second thoughts. The big issue is the box for the HVAC. Will be a little bench.

I made a quick drawing but the software doesn't have stairs or sliding doors!!! MS Paint fixed that.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 23, 2017, 07:15:43 AM
Looking great JR. I bet your daughter is excited to get her room.

Actually she is was, not is having second thoughts. The big issue is the box for the HVAC.

JR my English must not be very good. She what???
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Post by: Flyin6 on November 23, 2017, 09:23:28 AM
^^^^ Exactly- She What??
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Post by: KensAuto on November 23, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
Translation: she was happy, but now she's having second thoughts because the a/c box is big and yucky.  You're welcome. Lol

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Post by: rpar86 on November 23, 2017, 11:59:06 AM
Looking great JR. I bet your daughter is excited to get her room.

Actually she is was, not is having second thoughts. The big issue is the box for the HVAC.

JR my English must not be very good. She what???
Little too close to the border Charles? ;)
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 23, 2017, 02:53:45 PM
I fixed it. Room is big enough for sure. She wants to put her desk somewhere, but not with her back to a door. (not sure where she got that from)
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Post by: JR on November 24, 2017, 11:47:32 PM
Ready for Ply. Rain Sunday.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 25, 2017, 09:23:31 AM
How many stories is your home Jr?  Is this addition on top of the second story?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 25, 2017, 09:11:04 PM
Single story house, 2 story garage. Add on is behind the garage.

Busy day and more to go. Got all the foil backed OSB up. Still need to waterproof tonight since there is rain in the AM.

Using OC Ice Blocker for the entire roof leaving the ridge closed until I shingle. Got the entire roof done with just 6 sheets with about 1/2 more in pieces.

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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 25, 2017, 09:19:16 PM
Looks good JR. Didn’t realize there was a lot of ice where you are


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 25, 2017, 09:49:39 PM
There isn't, I just like the protection and its cost effective.
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Post by: KensAuto on November 25, 2017, 10:50:27 PM
I'd appreciate it if you would steer some of that rain this way. This is the dustiest/driest/hottest "winter" I've seen since I can remember.
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Post by: wyorunner on November 25, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
I'd appreciate it if you would steer some of that rain this way. This is the dustiest/driest/hottest "winter" I've seen since I can remember.


Ain't been here for but three years, but so far this year is the worst. And winter? It was 83 down here today. How bad was it up there?
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 25, 2017, 11:55:57 PM
I'd appreciate it if you would steer some of that rain this way. This is the dustiest/driest/hottest "winter" I've seen since I can remember.
Seem 70 degrees here today.  Usually you can’t even get on the Mt.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 01:12:33 AM
We had plenty last year, just normal this year.

Speaking of, its 2210 and I am just now waterproofing it.
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Post by: JR on November 26, 2017, 05:01:59 AM
Well, 0125 and it is watertight! First late night on this but had to get it done. Had to drive a few grip-rite nails to hold it down  :sad:, hope it didn't bug the neighbors much.

The OC blocker went on great, but I ran out with a 2 inch gap! Almost worked perfect since I needed a 2 inch gap for the vent, but I needed an overlap. Had enough to cover 1/2 the gap, then used 30# felt for the rest. Nice thing about this stuff is that it is granulated so you don't slip and fall even of wet.

Now we or onto siding and shingles.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 26, 2017, 07:40:24 AM
POIDH


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on November 26, 2017, 07:07:01 PM
Wyo, 88* at my place today.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 01:29:10 AM
Got a few pics of the roof underlament that I finished way to late! Sealed it up great, now for shingles and siding.

Pulled all the tarps off and sealed the stairs up a little better.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 01:31:25 AM
Was a nice 60 out here today. Clear sky but I hate it getting dark at 1700!!

Resealed the makeshift stir cover, have the backwards shingles covered!

Trimmed the foam down and sealed with window tape, added flashing.

Got the first 2 sheets up of the smartside. Comes primed same color as the house and garage, may have to really paint it this time,,,,,,,,,, :rolleyes:

Bostich coil nailed worked great, same for the HF roofing nailer I used on the flashing.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 28, 2017, 06:12:11 AM
Well. I see you leaking problem right there. Your house wrap is on upside down.... :tongue

What underlayment did you use and did you find the stair leak?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bob Smith on November 28, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
Think the stairway roof having all the shingles upside down and disturbed  along the sawed edges contributed to the leak?
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Post by: KensAuto on November 28, 2017, 02:31:16 PM
Bob must be in Az because that was definately some dry humor ^^^^^. :)
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Post by: Bob Smith on November 28, 2017, 03:13:12 PM
Not yet Ken, another month or so until we get down there.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2017, 08:41:32 PM
Not sure if the leak is fixed, have to wait for rain. There are a few edge issues, most addressed now but that is not where the leak is.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bob Smith on November 28, 2017, 10:23:07 PM
JR, if the edges were not the problem, that just leaves the rest of the sloping roof with the shingles running the wrong way. I see you covered the whole thing with rolled roofing so hopefully that took care of the problem.
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Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 02:23:40 PM
JR, if the edges were not the problem, that just leaves the rest of the sloping roof with the shingles running the wrong way. I see you covered the whole thing with rolled roofing so hopefully that took care of the problem.

That is what I am hoping and why I covered it. Also addressed a few holes I had up top above it with the tarping. I think the wood for tarps was channeling water to a spot up top and it ran all the way down. Rain will tell.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 02:36:30 PM
First side paneled up. Onto the rest. After the foam seal was trimmed and cleaned up I added flashing.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Nate on November 29, 2017, 04:47:08 PM
Not sure if the leak is fixed, have to wait for rain. There are a few edge issues, most addressed now but that is not where the leak is.

do they not make hoses out there in CA ?
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Post by: stlaser on November 29, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
Not sure if the leak is fixed, have to wait for rain. There are a few edge issues, most addressed now but that is not where the leak is.

do they not make hoses out there in CA ?

 :popcorn:

I was actually thinking “how can JR wait for rain to see if his fix works, I’m way too OCD for that.....”
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Post by: JR on November 29, 2017, 05:40:16 PM
I thought of that but doing the siding is first. Once that is up the hose is a go!
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Post by: JR on November 30, 2017, 11:25:51 PM
Got this far today. I am going to try some arial pics tomorrow.
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Post by: stlaser on November 30, 2017, 11:34:03 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: rpar86 on December 01, 2017, 01:33:43 AM
Jr, you going to do something about the roof where it meets the stair roof? That seems like a problem waiting to happen for water infiltration - or is that what you've been talking about with the "reverse shingles"?  You've got some weird angles there that would benefit from some adjustin'...
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 01, 2017, 09:23:27 AM
Looks nice JR!
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Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
Thanks. The entire stair are will get a do over.

I literally just cut the roof over the stairs, raised it up, screwed in place and covered the side with tearoff from the garage. Leak is/was right in the valley when I lifted it, wasn't a surprise. That siding is full of holes, but has a good overhang and there is no flashing on the bottom, yet,,,,,,,,,,,   
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Post by: JR on December 01, 2017, 09:25:23 PM
Did mostly little stuff today. All the hurricane straps, cleaned the room out and mounted and foamed the electrical boxes.

Going to roof it this weekend and get some drone pics. For some reason the pics didn't work today. Flew around but nothing saved,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by: Sammconn on December 01, 2017, 09:27:49 PM
Lemme guess, no card... :beercheers:
Just kidding JR...I hope...

Coming along nicely.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: rpar86 on December 02, 2017, 01:51:52 AM
Why'd you put the boxes so low?
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 02, 2017, 11:45:50 AM
Did mostly little stuff today. All the hurricane straps, cleaned the room out and mounted and foamed the electrical boxes.

Going to roof it this weekend and get some drone pics. For some reason the pics didn't work today. Flew around but nothing saved,,,,,,,,,,,,
Did you run it over with a tractor ?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 02, 2017, 12:02:53 PM
Why'd you put the boxes so low?

They are junction boxes from the rewire and will be behind the baseboard. Hidden but accessible.

Card was in, beeped when I pushed the photo button, just didn't take pics. Card had other pics.
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Post by: JR on December 03, 2017, 01:28:55 AM
Worked a half day and got the small roof done. Realized during the day 1 of my shingle packs was an ridge, so ran down and got another pack and new knee pads.

HF roofing gun is working great. If it doesn't rain tomorrow I will finish the other side and hopefully the ridge.
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Post by: JR on December 03, 2017, 01:36:55 AM
I cut the opening for the HVAC and laid a piece of wood on the edge and a ladder inside. All the shingles are inside so I just set them on the shelf, pull em out and throw em up onto the roof.

Much better than going through a little door just out of frame by the dryer vent.

The side of the stairs there has no real waterproofing and that need to be addressed. That siding is old stuff from the tearoff with just a good overhang and a furring strip with tape for now. It does have a little plastic on the other side, but for a vapor break.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 03, 2017, 07:34:04 AM
Jr, looking good and good progress.


just curious. Did you consider extending the roof line/room to the right, to encompass the stairs?  It would have given a real roof over the stairs and provided a bit of room for storage.

in any event, Charlie Mike....
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 03, 2017, 10:02:49 AM
Did mostly little stuff today. All the hurricane straps, cleaned the room out and mounted and foamed the electrical boxes.

Going to roof it this weekend and get some drone pics. For some reason the pics didn't work today. Flew around but nothing saved,,,,,,,,,,,,
Did you run it over with a tractor ?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 03, 2017, 01:09:53 PM
Jr, looking good and good progress.


just curious. Did you consider extending the roof line/room to the right, to encompass the stairs?  It would have given a real roof over the stairs and provided a bit of room for storage.

in any event, Charlie Mike....

Actually that was in the original plans and using a split HVAC system, but it didn't pan out as the build got going. Would have added a lot more work. Now with that said, it maybe the way it ends up when I tackle the stairs area.

That is beginning to grow on me too. It would balance out the roof line better and address some access and storage. 
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Post by: JR on December 04, 2017, 01:33:23 PM
Almost got the roof fully shingled. Worked until it was dark and still had 3 rows and the ridge.

It is windy, no leaf cleanup today!  :grin:
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Post by: cudakidd53 on December 04, 2017, 02:40:23 PM
Almost got the roof fully shingled. Worked until it was dark and still had 3 rows and the ridge.

It is windy, no leaf cleanup today!  :grin:

WRONG - get out there with a leaf blower and help them into your neighbors yard!
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Post by: JR on December 08, 2017, 03:51:04 PM
Didn't need a blower, the wind came up and I was chasing shingles all over!

Yard was a good afternoon work. I hate my tree (treehouse) this time of year. Takes a couple months for all of them to fall and they are little finger size. Still isn't done.

Onto the plumbing so I can finish this thing. Had to open the hole up a little and drill a couple holes. Found a metal frame support was in the way when running it down and it was a pain to cut it. Have a craftsman sawsall you can adjust the head on and it came in handy!

Drilled a 1/4 pilot to be sure I missed any SDS screws, moved a couple, then onto the 3.5in hole. HF right angle drill did its job great. Got the vent moved over and running the cpvc now.
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Post by: JR on December 08, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
Went through 2 LVLs, a 2x6 and sheet of ply. Looks like a core sample.
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Post by: Jared Herzog on December 08, 2017, 07:37:02 PM
In the photo of the tub/shower valve is that copper pipe hooked to a brass valve hooked to galvanized pipe. Or a trick of the flash being bright?
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Post by: JR on December 08, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
You guys have good eyes. All water pipe is cpvc, Valves are brass but a couple fittings are galvanized pipe!
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Post by: JR on December 08, 2017, 10:57:38 PM
Did get this in tonight. Hopefully son got enough glue on it as I pushed and he glued.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 09, 2017, 12:06:58 AM
Jr your not in the way of any fire right?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Flyin6 on December 09, 2017, 09:01:56 AM
In the photo of the tub/shower valve is that copper pipe hooked to a brass valve hooked to galvanized pipe. Or a trick of the flash being bright?
We're about to learn something^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 09, 2017, 09:34:28 AM
In the photo of the tub/shower valve is that copper pipe hooked to a brass valve hooked to galvanized pipe. Or a trick of the flash being bright?
We're about to learn something^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Yes we are. Much like some of the DOTs here some materials don’t get along so well with other materials


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on December 09, 2017, 06:43:11 PM
He is fine with the cpvc. It just looked like galvanized pipe on my phone. We do repair work where a home has dissimilar metals and they corrode. A popular place for someone to add/hide galvanized pipe is the tub spout where they install a pipe nipple. I think it is called electrolysis or galvanic corrosion. I am sure there are some metals experts here that could explain it. I have done some research, but not enough, and always use similar metals and isolators when needed. I use isolators on water heaters and their thermal expansion tanks for example. As long as the connection of two dissimilar metals is there the pipe can rot anywhere or everywhere that is not isolated. Pin holes form and the copper becomes brittle and crumbles. Wherever i use screws to attach two hole copper straps to copper pipe i use an isolator between the strap and pipe. From what i read this corrosion is worsened once water is introduced to the connection.
Currently i use the Viega system. Pex pipe isolates the connection so the failure is more local instead of anywhere if the proper isolators are not used. I may switch to hot link as it takes the same tools. And is made in the US. Viega is Italy and the US.
Cpvc has none of these issues.
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Post by: JR on December 09, 2017, 08:07:43 PM
I was thinking of going with pex. But the cost of the crimpers or the slide on fittings is not worth it for my amount of use. I keep a bag of some fittings and pipe in case something does go wrong (murphy) I don't have to run to the store.

Moms house is all galvanized and it need to be redone. Flow is just enough for the basics. Even her plugs aren't grounded, but the wire is there.
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Post by: rpar86 on December 09, 2017, 11:35:27 PM
You can rent the pex tool. I did some pex work earlier this year with the uponor wirsbo system and just rented the tool for $25 for a weekend. Not a single leak.
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Post by: Jared Herzog on December 09, 2017, 11:35:33 PM
The Viega hand tools had a retail of @$1200. I paid $500. The fittings are expensive. But, none of this costs more than doing a copper job all in material wise. Copper has gone way up in price. Soldering all the fittings also takes time and introduces fire to a job site. The cost for pex style brass fittings has doubled in the last few years as the EPA wants 100% lead free now. So they are pure brass. They have a plastic fitting with stainless sleeve but they feel cheap and are a fraction of the cost. Whenever i ask the supplier if they would put the plastic Viega pex fittings in their own home the answer is NO. My supplier wants me to try heat link next time. Their pex pipe is higher quality and the fittings are a little cheaper.
If i rarely did pex i would consider the shark bite pex system. Not the slide on barbed fittings though. The shark bite connection tools are cheap, the fittings are easily bought at Lowes or HomeDepot, and the fittings are brass and have copper rings to pinch. The only downfall is each crimp needs to be gauged to ensure a pinch to spec. Viega pinches to a preset calibrated setting. Once a crimp is started it will not stop until within spec so no gauge is needed. Saves a step.
There are three types of pex. pex a, pex b, and pex c. Next time you are at Lowes give their system a look.
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Post by: JR on December 10, 2017, 01:24:43 AM
The local ACE (great store but pricey) has all the pex stuff, and Lowes/HD are handy but a little farther.

Checking my drainpipe I found a drip that is coming from the bath spout pipes. It is galvanized, so that is something to address now also. Bad enough it is galv but looks like no thread sealer was used either. Getting this drain in was a chore. I did find the leak because of it though. Also got the vent outdoors finally, along with that smell,,,,,,,,,,,, :tongue:

Added a 12in SDS though the LVL to the vertical post. Even cross drilled the other end and added 4 SDS 10in from the roof framing to the garage LVL tying it all together. My buddy came over who is doing the plans liked it all.
 
Finished the roof but have to put on the ridge vent. All the ridges were warmed up but I ran out of daylight and time since the kids needed feeding. Tomorrow will have to do, weather will be in the mid 60's. All that is left on the outside now is the siding on the short wall and trim. 
 
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 10, 2017, 07:55:13 AM
I have some questions about pex and the different fitting/connection systems. I'll post over the Jared's new thread.
Title: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on December 10, 2017, 09:17:23 AM
Is your leak coming from the bath spout? Or other pipes? If it is the bath spout thread sealant gets left off often because that junction does not have much pressure since the water spills into the tub at a much lower pressure than what is in the pipes with the valves closed. I prefer sealant all the time because even though it will not be a huge leak it will be a small leak. If the nipple runs slightly downhill the leaking water leaves the spout at the weep hole. If it runs uphill the leak goes behind the wall.
I am assuming it is the nipple for the tub spout. Use the existing nipple for a length guide. You may be able to find a plastic male nipple that would work. You could use schedule 40 pvc or 80 pvc or cpvc and thread your own nipple. You do not want to screw a metal male into a plastic female part. It cracks the fitting over time. Male is always plastic and female is always metal unless both are either plastic or metal. Plastic can go into plastic. Metal can go into metal. Metal can not go into plastic. One exception is certain bushings but the other rule stands as a general guide. You might have a leak where the galvanized pipe broke the cpvc female elbow. All that is a very easy fix.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 10, 2017, 01:00:16 PM
At least I have the access there to get to it.
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Post by: JR on December 10, 2017, 05:53:03 PM
Got it all capped off today  :cool:
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Post by: KensAuto on December 10, 2017, 06:26:27 PM
Looks very clean JR.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on December 10, 2017, 08:45:18 PM
Nice. What’s next on the list ?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on December 10, 2017, 09:00:01 PM
& you have Roof! :likebutton:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 10, 2017, 10:55:42 PM
Side
& you have Roof! :likebutton:

Side the short wall and trim for outside.

Now I start framing the inside and electrical.

Oh, thx guys,,,,,,
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 12, 2017, 03:12:54 PM
Finished up the siding. Just some trim now and the bottom under the window needs to be trimmed up. Somehow got cut an inch over?

Need to get the HVAC hooked back up. Getting cold enough the space heater is NOT doing the job now!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 16, 2017, 07:21:50 PM
Got all the plumbing done, time to close it up, get the HVAC working and frame the door/closet.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on December 16, 2017, 07:35:24 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on December 17, 2017, 12:17:01 AM
Get your leak fixed also?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on December 17, 2017, 01:29:12 PM
Get your leak fixed also?


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Yep, no sealer or tape on the pipe and had rusted through. Getting it off was a challenge in itself.
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Post by: JR on December 19, 2017, 11:55:35 PM
Picked up a load of Roxul today for the floors and walls. Ordered the roofing r30 but Lowes said it won't be in until almost mid Jan!

Thinking I may just double up the wall insulation would would be cheaper and give me a 6in bat vs the 5.5in on the r30. Still get my airflow as the joists are 7.5in.

Got the door framed in and found the garage is not quite vertical, wonder who did that?? I built it so it all lines up at least.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 02, 2018, 10:33:44 PM
Got most of the foam up. Almost out but using the foil backed above the roof line and some extra below.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 02, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
The split ac unit came in today and I got going on the closet.

Have to strip it out and add supports for the center beam. Then shear it with OSB and pin it to the new structure.

Then the floor comes out for 4 footings. Will do the sewer line since it is just 8ft away.

 
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 02, 2018, 11:26:10 PM
That’s a bunch of green there JR


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 02, 2018, 11:51:43 PM
Oldest girl wanted green, she got it! Was purple before.

Now she wants white upstairs.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: rpar86 on January 03, 2018, 02:01:11 AM
What’s being done with the closet? Beam, footings, shear wall, sewer...?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on January 03, 2018, 10:16:59 AM
Ryan, she has a BUNCH of shoes, duh!
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Post by: JR on January 03, 2018, 11:07:21 AM
What’s being done with the closet? Beam, footings, shear wall, sewer...?


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Yep, all that.

Shoes, not really. But what she has do have to be name brands!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 05, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Got it opened up and need to put 3 footings down.

Not a lot of space but could be worse.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 05, 2018, 12:15:08 AM
Cut out the last joist and marked it out. Found the footing there goes about 8in under the block, just next to where I need to put the main footing for the main beam.

Will sister a 2x6 to the existing then add new joists on hangers when done.

Need 4 footings along the 14ft wall, need to dig 3 out. Only this one needs triming, others are clean dirt/clay.

Got a Bauer SDS Max hammer/drill to assist in all this along with the spade for digging. Boys will get to haul dirt  :smiley: 

Mixing cement under there will not be fun.
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Post by: rpar86 on January 05, 2018, 02:04:09 AM
What’s being done with the closet? Beam, footings, shear wall, sewer...?


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Yep, all that.

Shoes, not really. But what she has do have to be name brands!

I know all that, because you said it above. :knucklehead But WHY are you doing this?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 05, 2018, 11:48:04 AM
The outside wall on the addition is over the center of the house with just a simple wall under it. Under the house there is simply a doubled 2x6 with footings every 8ft of so. By shearing the wall this spreads the load along the entire length of the load even though it is bolted the the houses center beam up top. 

The post that supports the roof center beam needs a support to the foundation also, hence the 18 footing. Then there is another on both corners below the addition and another under a door jam that places the footing about every 4ft.

None of this takes into account the two 10in I beams the run the length of the house (manufactured home). Engineer said it needs to be build almost like a stand alone structure. Way overkill.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 06, 2018, 12:59:24 AM
Got her dug out but decided to use the old footing with the new. Cut the Sono to match, added some rebar to tie it in and mixed what amounted to 5 bags for it. (60#)

Sistered the 2x6 above and used a DIY plumb bob. Added a couple rebars to the pad and filled it up. Later the kids put their initials in it.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 06, 2018, 01:02:07 AM
I'm tired, so I took the kids to dinner at Costco and bought my mom chinese.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 06, 2018, 06:53:57 AM
tight quarters there, JR.  Nicely done.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 07, 2018, 01:19:54 AM
tight quarters there, JR.  Nicely done.

That is the easy one!

2 more to go under the openings.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 07, 2018, 08:42:32 AM
Don’t you have some skinny kids that can do that?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 08, 2018, 12:39:02 AM
I have one that will help and he is good when he gets going. However getting him there proves to be a challenge sometimes.

Finished all the footings, got the posts set and started to build the floor back up. Had to insulate the HVAC crossover that is located there (had a rat issue long ago).
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 08, 2018, 01:21:36 AM
Few more for fun.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 08, 2018, 06:38:30 AM
Progress


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on January 08, 2018, 08:41:17 AM
This might be a dumb question but why did you wait until the end to pour the footings? Then since you waited do you have to do any jacking of the structure etc to get things in their rightful place as a result? Assuming you are going to check for that?
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Post by: JR on January 08, 2018, 01:06:23 PM
Yes, I should have done this first but I started it when school was in then. Would have been better for me with the heat also at that time.

It is disrupting my daughter who is an A student, on the track/cross country team and wasn't told to do this until about a month ago anyway.

I was never really worried about the structure as it was. Even though the center wall is supported a little and there is a whole house 2 1/2x24 center beam, there are alsofour 10 inch I beams running the length of the house. One side rests on that and the other on the garage foundation. Between that and the LVLs and the end wall shearing. Plus removing all the weight of the old roof (3 roofs, not shingle layers) I am not concerned.

Here is a scetch showing all the original footings and my additions.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 11, 2018, 03:47:41 PM
All closed in and working on making it pretty. Took 7 days, but really 4 or so hours a day with all the things going on.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 11, 2018, 05:58:53 PM
looking good.  I hate taping and floating
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 11, 2018, 06:43:40 PM
looking good.  I hate taping and floating

Came out OK, really needed a 2nd mudding and primer. Just glad its done as is my daughter.

Made a little deeper shelf for it buttoned it up. Now back upstairs!!
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Post by: KensAuto on January 11, 2018, 09:30:50 PM
Looks good JR. Drywall mudding and Bondo are similar, and I suck at both.

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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Flyin6 on January 12, 2018, 08:14:39 AM
JR,

Love ya man

but

That color gives me vertigo!
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Post by: JR on January 15, 2018, 05:57:49 PM
Me too, but that is what she wanted.

Onto the HVAC and the insulation. Space heater was doing the job, well still is but my bill was crazy last month.

Finished the foam insulation and roxuled the small wall.

Debating on running the vents out the side vs the roof. Can do either or mode later but running them out by the stairs right now is easy.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Flyin6 on January 16, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
Coming right along!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 17, 2018, 01:18:31 AM
Finished the HVAC today, another hurdle. Nice to have it back.

The space heater was doing OK but the bill was killing me. It drew 1300watts and ran all day sometimes. Thats 31,200 watts a day!!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 17, 2018, 02:34:58 AM
Meant to post this when I finished up on the foundation. For the space I had this in a must.

I picked up a Bauer SDS MAX hammer drill from good ol HF and it has done its job very well.

My only complaint is it come with NO BITS, so add another $80 to the $130 price.

Got the discounts with them so it didn't hurt as bad. Then I found a coupon for the driver saving another $30.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 17, 2018, 06:17:57 AM
Good to know JR. I rented a Bosch chipping hammer (little bigger than that BDS) and it cost almost as much as buying that one.  Worked well for talking up tile.


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 17, 2018, 01:20:51 PM
They make a lighter duty also but this one has twice the impact (6lb vs 3) and the metal gearbox. Plus it has a trigger varible speed vs the dial on the light duty.

With the coupon it cost the same as the all plastic one.

I had to buy the spade bit, drills and standard bits.

Now if there was just an easy way to get the dirt out of the dang hole!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: stlaser on January 17, 2018, 01:27:12 PM
We had a hand pump blow gun we used back in the day.....
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: KensAuto on January 17, 2018, 09:32:44 PM
I was in HD a couple months back and they were just putting all of their Dewalt sds Max bits on clearance. I bought all of them (about 30) for 9.00-15.00 each...long 1/2" to 1" bits, plus spades and chisels tips. Couldn't pass it up!
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 17, 2018, 09:40:14 PM
I paid 30 for 3 bits with the discount. The spade was solo.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: rpar86 on January 18, 2018, 12:14:55 AM

Now if there was just an easy way to get the dirt out of the dang hole!


Shop vac :)


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 18, 2018, 06:24:00 AM
You mean the one he showed us that was portable and battery powered?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 18, 2018, 01:14:48 PM
My 16gal may have but not the bigger stuff. Not a bad idea really.
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Post by: JR on January 18, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
Got this done today. Going to use foam under the ply top.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 20, 2018, 03:34:00 AM
Well since I have a work table now I finished the wall shims and insulation. Daughter still thinks the room is to small since the closet is built into the room. Women, never can please em.

Now she is talking furniture, new bed and desk. Said talk to mom, I built the room  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 20, 2018, 03:40:57 AM
Used less than 3 bags of the Roxul for the walls. Didn't figure the windows or bench in. Used the safe/sound for the HVAC cover to quiet it down some and I think it is around and R13 alone.

Have to figure the split system power as it will be separate from the room. Out side unit will share power with the bathroom. Inside unit will be another circut with an outlet just above the bench. Lights and plugs another circut.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 20, 2018, 07:04:35 AM
Looking good JR.   Explain what you mean on the power wiring?
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 20, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
Looking good JR.   Explain what you mean on the power wiring?

Just keeping circuts seperate. Bathroom and AC pump on one, most outlets/lights (led pod) on another and one more for the indoor HVAC head and one 20amp outlet. The last is near the stairway which may be used for a house fan later. 
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Post by: JR on January 22, 2018, 12:51:01 PM
Wish I had more to report, weekends are busy. When the kids are home I get a couple hours after they go to sleep is about it. Wife looks to be going back to her day shift and is happy. Couple weeks out but hope to be close to done by then.

Lost power to a line in the laundry room, have to figure that out but rewire options pretty easy.

Got the trim for the windows cut out. Need to prime-paint and install.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 26, 2018, 12:49:25 PM
Starting on the sheetrock downstairs and new led lights in the laundry. Need to figure out the hall 3-way too.

Got some funny white stuff yesterday for around 10 minutes. Sure it is nothing like TX, but good for here.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 30, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Been working on it but few pics.

Ran the bathroom vent outside finally and added a Y for the new bathroom.

Got some shielded 16/2 for the LED lights and ran power for the HVAC.

Soffits are in so I can start insulating the roof and not worry about critters getting in there.

Closet framing is next, getting close.
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Post by: JR on January 31, 2018, 08:51:24 PM
Well, got a few pics to backup the claims above.

Soffits came out good I think, I'm happy with them.

Sealed up and insulated the wall, now the closet and sheetrock.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: TexasRedNeck on January 31, 2018, 08:59:11 PM
Too lazy to read. Did you find and fix the leak?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on January 31, 2018, 09:52:22 PM
Too lazy to read. Did you find and fix the leak?


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Working on it now. I half arsed it the first time and the fix just puddled it. Have a clear week so good to go.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on February 01, 2018, 10:59:26 PM
Wonder why it leaked?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on February 02, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
Did a lot of cleanup and ordered a custom mirrored door since I just have 74in where it is going with the low ceiling.

Sistered above the 2 door openings since it was never designed for them and I will be cutting into the header for the stairway opening.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on February 05, 2018, 02:03:33 AM
Got the soffets finished and the new pod lights came in.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 05, 2018, 11:01:02 PM
What pod lights did you go with Jr?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on February 07, 2018, 12:57:31 AM
What pod lights did you go with Jr?


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Got some flush fitting ones that run off 12v DC. Each have their own converter but I am running a main converter and running the 12v to each light. No bulky boxes and the converter will be in the closet with easy access.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CHVKDF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Simply drill a hole in the sheetrock, hook up the 12v and push the light in. Insulation stays tight and you can mount anywhere. I put two 9watt of these in the laundry room and they are bright! This room gets 6 so I went with 6watt that are dimable, plus a central ceiling fan with LED.
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Post by: EL TATE on February 07, 2018, 08:30:56 AM
Man those are super cool! would have been really nice back in '99 when I was running a dozen plus standard can lights in my parents basement. Cutting holes out with a dremel looking up at your work and wearing sheetrock dust like a clothing style is not the ideal way to do things.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on February 07, 2018, 11:05:35 AM
I just run shielded audio cable to each light with new plugs.

When cutting overhead, just get an old plastic container and cut to fit the tool.
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Post by: Jared Herzog on February 09, 2018, 08:08:50 AM
Overhead cutting in sheetrock or hardi is best left to the new guy and the biggest reason every site needs a new guy. Or a son.
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Post by: dave945 on February 09, 2018, 09:31:54 AM
How many of those pod lights can you run off a single converter?  I can see multiple locations in my house I would like to add them.  And you if I read correctly, you are just running shielded audio/speaker wire from the converter to the lights?
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Post by: EL TATE on February 09, 2018, 11:17:10 AM
Overhead cutting in sheetrock or hardi is best left to the new guy and the biggest reason every site needs a new guy. Or a son.

Which is why it fell to me, lol.
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Post by: JR on February 09, 2018, 03:50:29 PM
 :likebutton:
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 09, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
Overhead cutting in sheetrock or hardi is best left to the new guy and the biggest reason every site needs a new guy. Or a son.

unless you have one of these

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they make them with a carbide cutter that will work on hardie too.
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Post by: EL TATE on February 09, 2018, 06:31:05 PM
man that's cool!
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Post by: JR on February 11, 2018, 09:56:04 PM
Got some done this weekend.

Closet framing finished. Got sheetrock upstairs (13) and new 30in door.

Removed the folding pull down stairs and relocated the HF hoist (best $50 I ever spent!), now centered over 28x54 opening. Cut a panel to fill it but still needs a frame and not sure which end to hinge.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 12, 2018, 08:04:50 AM
Love those little hoists!  Had one at the lake house years ago on a little jib that I used to life the Seadoo out of the water
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Post by: JR on February 12, 2018, 03:03:07 PM
Yep, single line 440 lbs. This is like 20 years old.
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Post by: JR on February 15, 2018, 11:18:11 AM
Ran the conduit down and through the solar inverter. This was the last wire that will run the AC head and a 20amp outlet with USB.

LED, insulation and sheetrock this week!
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Post by: JR on February 22, 2018, 01:31:40 AM
Finished the LED wiring and the insulation. Still have not found the correct convertor for the LEDs. They work fine with the stock driver, just 5.8 watts for 2 lights (4000k each).
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Post by: JR on February 22, 2018, 01:41:06 AM
I have a 2A 12v driver for the LEDs in the top box. It also has an on/off for the fan. So far it does not run the LEDs. Puts out 12v, but lights don't, well light!

Lower has a 3 button switch for the LEDs so each row can be on/off and there is a dimmer on the main switch. Fan has a separate remote with its own LED.

Got up a little sheetrock, hopefully finish that tomorrow. No texture for this room, hope I can do that justice with my mudding.

Opened up the wall for the new door. This will allow a 3 foot landing, a closet to the right, new room U turn to the left and 1/2 bath to the left.

This will all be closed off via a barn door to the rest of the upstairs.
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Post by: rpar86 on February 23, 2018, 12:50:11 AM
Dunno why you don’t just put in standard 110v cans with LED bulbs so that you don’t have something out of the ordinary for the next person that buys the house?


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Post by: JR on February 23, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Didn't want the big ol cans going through my 7in insulation and these were 1/4 the price and simply fit in the hole you cut out of the sheetrock.
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Post by: JR on February 23, 2018, 11:54:14 PM
Got the old doorway covered and the AC mount on. Compressor is on it, just no pic.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 24, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
What mini split did you use?


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Post by: JR on February 24, 2018, 01:03:36 PM
Its a Senville unit I got off Ebay for $580 with a longer hose kit. Feed back was good, shipping was free and it is a 15.2 seer.

Comp is 24x30 and the head unit is 24x8x8 with remote.

Drilled the last hole for the lines last night and will run the hose later today and finish the sheetrock.
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Post by: JR on February 24, 2018, 01:11:10 PM
Here is the basic layout for the HVAC split unit.

Need to redo this as the built in shelves are gone and the sink is on the other side of the of the bathroom with the wall kicked out about 6 inches.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 24, 2018, 04:05:53 PM
Help me understand how you put it on an interior wall and get the drain run back to the outside.


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Post by: JR on February 24, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
The units mount as any split system does. Standard lines were 16ft, I got 25ft lines.

Ext unit has a bottom drain right onto the roof, but I will run a short line from there to the gutter.

Interior unit has a drain and there is vent line from the washer/dryer under it so it will be plumbed into that. I could drain it to the roof also, but the vent being there should work great.
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Post by: JR on February 24, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
Just dropped $450 on vinyl flooring for it and the bathroom. Floating floor with built in underlament.

Closet doors came in also.
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Post by: stlaser on February 24, 2018, 06:25:03 PM
Coming together..... :likebutton:
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Post by: JR on February 24, 2018, 11:25:14 PM
HVAC lines pulled through.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 25, 2018, 08:48:53 AM
really interested in the flaring and pressure testing process JR.  Looking forward to updates.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on February 25, 2018, 09:31:25 AM
That looks like a pretty fast system to install.  What’s the estimated power consumption in a year?


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Post by: JR on February 25, 2018, 07:33:03 PM
I think it said $90. This will be a hot room to, same reason I went with high end insulation.

The head unit is on a semi outside wall which works well to hide the lines. The stairway wall will end up being around 6 thick when finished with pipes/venting and AC lines.
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Post by: DDS on February 26, 2018, 06:47:19 AM
The units mount as any split system does. Standard lines were 16ft, I got 25ft lines.

Ext unit has a bottom drain right onto the roof, but I will run a short line from there to the gutter.

Interior unit has a drain and there is vent line from the washer/dryer under it so it will be plumbed into that. I could drain it to the roof also, but the vent being there should work great.

Unless you're going to trap the condensate line, I'd dump it outside. You don't want sewer gasses coming into the unit & being spread all over the room.
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Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2018, 08:48:36 AM
Hopefully his drain is code... should be fine with a peatrap.


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Post by: JR on February 26, 2018, 01:24:04 PM
Some sort of valve will be required as it states do not trap the drain line, must flow free. Should be as easy as a flapper like we have on our air cleaners.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 26, 2018, 08:23:17 PM
most washer drain lines are already trapped since the discharge nozzle does not seal against the drain so dumping more water into the drain should not present a problem.  Its how I have my whole house dehumidifier plumbed into the washer drain.
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Post by: KensAuto on February 26, 2018, 09:31:39 PM
^^^ :likebutton:
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Post by: JR on February 27, 2018, 02:59:11 PM
I get the nice odor from the pipe now so a valve will good a good idea.
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Post by: JR on March 03, 2018, 07:46:33 PM
Been working on this and it is going good.

Sheetrock is up sans the closet, will finish that tonight.

The LED drivers I bought to run it all do not work. Will us the little drivers that came with them. Two LEDs seem to work fine on the 1 stock 300ma driver.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 03, 2018, 09:19:54 PM
Turning out to be quiet the peaceful get away for the daughter.   


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Post by: JR on March 03, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
He he, me too. I like being busy and will glad when this is done.

Right now it really echos in there but some furniture will help.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2018, 01:03:32 AM
Carpet will help a bunch as well 


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Post by: JR on March 04, 2018, 03:20:38 AM
Carpet will help a bunch as well 


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Its getting vinyl laminate. Needs to be sturdy. About $2 a sf and backing is built in.

On that I got the wiring done tonight. Works great using the including drivers, but each running 2 lights (4 watts each LED). They even work with the dimmer I got at Costco a few weeks back and each bank can be shut off. So the master (dimmer) powers them all, then a 3 way in the closet allows control of 2 lights each (center, left, right) Was tight getting the buggers in there but they fit.

Got the drywall finished cept inside the closet. Tomorrow I have to replace a bath faucet as my oldest boy though it would be cool to spin the lever backwards and tore up the seals.
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Post by: JR on March 04, 2018, 03:22:43 AM
The little screw on bullet plugs sure helped. I did solder the LV wires. Wish the box was another 1/2 deep, but its done now.

Lights work great!
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 04, 2018, 07:46:34 AM
Looks good JR.  I hate floating drywall.  Seems I put 10 pounds on then take 9 1/2 off, then repeat.....

That is a lot stuffed into that 2 gang box.  Keep an eye on temp on those transformers.  They can get warm
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 04, 2018, 12:32:16 PM
What’s the hole in the wall for Jr?


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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 04, 2018, 04:13:23 PM
that's the window.  Just covered to keep building inspectors from prying.....
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Post by: JR on March 04, 2018, 09:30:00 PM
Yep, just the window. Looks down into the neighbors backyard and he's cool, so trying to keep it covered most of the time. The shades will fix most of that when finished. I will post a picture out the window, it is a nice view with sunsets but it gets hot!
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Post by: Tommy13 on March 05, 2018, 08:34:40 AM
It's really coming together.  Nice work JR.
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Post by: JR on March 08, 2018, 02:14:22 AM
Played in the mud today, more to come!
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 08, 2018, 10:05:25 AM
God love ya man, that's nasty/dirty work!
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Post by: JR on March 09, 2018, 03:07:00 AM
Just mudded for 8 hours, I'm tired and still not done on the first coat!

Just the closet on ceiling center left and ran out of mud, so Lowes gets a visit in the morning.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 09, 2018, 07:11:12 AM
I hate floating and taping. I’ll be subcontracting that part on the casita


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Post by: JR on March 09, 2018, 12:28:57 PM
That crossed my mind late last night. Full rooms will be that way from now on.
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Post by: Bear9350 on March 09, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
The mudding was the only part my remodel where I payed somebody to do something I could do.
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Post by: stlaser on March 09, 2018, 01:50:43 PM
I hate floating and taping. I’ll be subcontracting that part on the casita


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Everytime on any build ^^^^^^
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Post by: JR on March 09, 2018, 07:48:08 PM
A little more and a view.
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Post by: JR on March 12, 2018, 07:38:18 PM
I hate mudding, I hate mudding,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by: stlaser on March 12, 2018, 08:14:09 PM
Looking good, home stretch!  :likebutton:
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Post by: JR on March 12, 2018, 08:19:14 PM
Tape the closet, skim coat the rest. Going to dig out the airless for the PVA/paint, then use a textured roller on that.
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Post by: JR on March 12, 2018, 08:53:12 PM
150' roll of tape and I'm 3' short, have to use the mesh for that. 2nd box of mud, not wasting much.

Both the outside corners are bullnose, came out good. As long as the peak comes out good, I'll be happy.
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Post by: Tommy13 on March 13, 2018, 03:13:36 PM
Liking the round corners JR.  :likebutton:
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Post by: EL TATE on March 13, 2018, 04:32:55 PM
The round corners really do look great. old paint brush handle taped to a plastic soda bottle cut out just the right way makes skimming those round corners a lot easier JR. Not that you'll ever want to do it again.
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Post by: JR on March 15, 2018, 12:58:03 AM
Bullnose are smooth as a babies bottom but thx for the idea.

However I got nothing done today but buying carpet for the stairs. Between running kids, diner, seeing mom (just bought her a scooter, https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Medical-Compact-Travel-Scooter/dp/B00GPGKN4G )
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 17, 2018, 12:08:24 AM
Question for you JR.  I'm thinking about running the refrigerant and drain lines for mini split through an interior wall cavity through the floor to the crawl space.  What approximate diameter is all the piping when bundled together?  Would a 1 1/2 conduit accommodate all of them or would it have to be bigger?  2 inch?  Or could the drain come off a separate end of the interior unit from the drain and use conduit on each end of the unit to run them separately through the wall cavity?
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Post by: JR on March 17, 2018, 01:20:31 AM
I cut 2" holes to run mine and have room to spare. That is after it was rapped so I could feed it all through.

The comp and head have diff drain lines. Comp just dumps out the bottom but sure you run it somewhere.

Looks like the head drain line is around 3/4 and normally does not run with the hard lines. They do come out the same exit hole in the wall, but then it goes its own way.

What did you get?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 17, 2018, 07:41:32 AM
Nothing yet.  Still in the planning stages.  Been reading all the mfg install documents.  I'm looking at LG Blueridge and others and I'd like to be able to hide the lines by running them through conduit in the wall cavities for a cleaner look.  In one instance, if I put a wall up to close off the downstairs sleeping area, its an interior non load bearing wall and I would have to run the lines out the bottom to the crawl space.  I could probably run 2 inch conduit max but would prefer 1 1/2
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Post by: JR on March 17, 2018, 03:52:24 PM
I will get you pic for reff. I think 1.5 will be OK. I wanted a little give in mine.

Here are the 2 copper lines and the control wire wrapped in vinyl (included) running through a 2 in hole.
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Post by: JR on March 18, 2018, 01:25:59 AM
Looking at it I think you will need at least a 2'' hole. The lines have foam and wrapped with the vinyl there is not alot of play.

You could run them and with the fitting removed and reflare the lines, Let mine sealed.


Little more skimming to do and light sanding, then paint. I am ready!!
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 18, 2018, 08:59:35 AM
Thanks JR. I’ve seen some where the drain is on the opposite side from the refrigerant lines.  I might be able to feed drain through a separate conduit.


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Post by: JR on March 18, 2018, 12:32:05 PM
I can run the lines separate, so there are options. I ran AC right up to where the unit will mount and will run the drain out there too.

As I posted earlier, I have a vent line there from the w/d and the wall will have a 3'' from the new rooms wall to the stairway wall which works out great, like a ''wet wall''.

Orange wire is the dryer 220 and you can see my temp rail. 2x2 redwood with teak oil.
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Post by: Tommy13 on March 18, 2018, 03:11:29 PM
The split unit we had installed would need at least 2in conduit for the copper and wire.  Drain is piped out to the roof.
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Post by: JR on March 22, 2018, 02:25:45 AM
So this evening I finished the mudding. Maybe a touchup after some sanding but I will hot coat that.

I also finished prepping the stairs for stain, but not sure now. I got the carpet to do the stairs and lowes even gave me a bunch of nice padding for it.

Idea is to stain the siding on the stairway in a golden oak, then I will make railing from iron. Bad part is every time I look at the stairs I think they might look better stained, but not sure if that looks right with the siding stained. Plus they are just ply so not the most robust wood if I did.

Other than that it is the home stretch now. Bed and frame ordered, need the wood for the HVAC box top, shades and baseboards. Flooring is a grey, wall semi white, baseboards gloss white and shades grey. Mirror closet door with no closet door trim. Just a 2/6 flat panel doorway, Haven't decided on the hvac cover finish either. 
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 22, 2018, 08:01:43 AM
Awesome.   You can always carpet over the stain later is you change your mind


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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2018, 08:53:56 AM
After looking at the other home. I say give the stairs a stain and see how they turn out. Like Tex said you can always cover


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Post by: JR on March 22, 2018, 10:31:10 AM
Stain it all, just the steps, black steps, honey oak trim for the side? (figure black iron rail)
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2018, 01:14:46 PM
That sounds cool, dark dark treads and the kicks a lighter color.  Not lite enough to show shoe scuffs


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Post by: JR on March 22, 2018, 01:22:37 PM
Upstairs will be a grey, nice transition. That is another concern with carpet, the transition.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 22, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
I have always gone with transitions as far as paint. From point of view.  If you can see it from the main room match that, where your bedroom addition is down below I wouldn’t worry about matching that


Kind of like how to transition colors on a rounded corner where you have two colors. Which face do you paint? Lord knows you don’t split the round down the middle


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Post by: rpar86 on March 22, 2018, 03:12:09 PM


Kind of like how to transition colors on a rounded corner where you have two colors. Which face do you paint? Lord knows you don’t split the round down the middle

They did in my house...  bought it like this.

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Post by: JR on March 22, 2018, 04:01:37 PM
No transitions like that, but I do have bullnose on all my stuff since I moved in.

Stain came out good, just a little darker than I thought. Blue tape bled a little more than I like and pulled off paint to boot.

No worry about the seam on top, rail will cover that.

Maybe grey steps, black/white would show everything!
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Post by: Bob Smith on March 22, 2018, 04:04:08 PM
Carpet tends not to wear well on stairs, I would do the wood.
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Post by: rpar86 on March 22, 2018, 06:53:35 PM
A little late now, but the best tape for not bleeding is Frog Tape. Expensive though!
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Post by: JR on March 23, 2018, 07:03:22 PM
Thinking to just paint the steps with a good traffic paint and do the kicks in white to match the wall.

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Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 23, 2018, 08:40:23 PM
Stain the steps and paint the riser. A high quality paint will wear scuffs well. My house has had stained treads and painted risers for 9 years and no scuffs.


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Post by: JR on April 04, 2018, 02:33:34 AM
Well, after not having the go to get back on this and couple of PT sessions, we are back on the job. Daughter is in Hawaii with the school band so I want to get a lot done before here return.

Finished the sanding, missed a couple spots but the world will not stop. Got it masked off and pulled out my airless last used about 15 years ago and got to work. Well so I thought until I looked at my PVA primer. Only had about 2gal, but it had big rusty looking chunks in it. So off to HD for a new 5gal bucket.

Worked great but I had it spraying way to heavy at first, then the gun plugged up. Both were a simple fix and I planned on going 2 coats. However the heavy first coat used almost 4 gal, so 1 heavy coat it is! I got a couple runs and fixed those. Found a couple pieces of tape bubble, but I can live with it! Peak came out good also and the little overspray on the floor won't hurt a thing.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 04, 2018, 07:17:31 AM
Looking good JR

I’m hoping my Titan airless will work when I need it in the next couple of weeks. It’s been in my dads posession for a couple of years. It’s only been used 4-5 times but it’s 10 years old.


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Post by: Jared Herzog on April 04, 2018, 11:34:07 AM
IMO it is better to do a heavier first coat of primer even if you do a second coat. The first coat soaks into the drywall paper and joint compound. If the coat is too thin the primer does not get soaked in as well before it dries and seals. This keeps a second thin coat from penetrating as much as a thick first coat would have. It sort of bonds everything together when a first coat is done right. I have noticed that when the primer step is skipped the texture is easier to damage. Primer is also a wetter product than the thicker premium paints available now which also aids in absorption. Premium paints these days usually have a built in primer. This should not replace the actual step of priming. The paint and primer in one is usually pretty thick and geared more to hiding wall stains and irregularities when doing a paint over paint project.
The addition is looking great.
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Post by: JR on April 08, 2018, 04:07:46 PM
Picked up the last of it all I hope last night at HD. Had it all loaded on a cart  and went to get another item and some jerk unloaded my stuff and took the cart!

Onto the flooring now, paint the kickboards, mount door, etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by: stlaser on April 08, 2018, 04:12:50 PM
Picked up the last of it all I hope last night at HD. Had it all loaded on a cart  and went to get another item and some jerk unloaded my stuff and took the cart!

Onto the flooring now, paint the kickboards, mount door, etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,

hey going to the parking lot to get another cart would have taken him too long....... :popcorn:
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Post by: Jared Herzog on April 08, 2018, 05:51:10 PM
I have a confession to make. I hate going to the store when they are crowded. Back to school in a college town absolutely sucks. People leave their carts in the middle of the aisle so you can not get past while they are off looking at other stuff. Just walking slow with people trying to get around them just to stop in the middle of the aisle and walk off leaving the cart blocking everyone. I am not talking about leaving a heavy cart out of the way at Lowes as i do that all the time. JRs experience just jogged my memory. But inconveniencing everyone on purpose. So I started a game with the kids called cart roulette. If there is not a kid or purse in the cart i just take the entire thing. The whole thing and move it to a more appropriate area. Sometimes some of the selections in their cart look pretty good so find their way into my cart. Then sit back and watch the aftermath unfold. The best times are when college kids are shopping for stuff with their parents. I simply toss in stuff they would need and see what happens at the checkout. I have tossed in books for lonely women and chocolates. I have tossed in pool floats and comfort foods. I have tossed in books and magazines about Trump to our more left leaning confused citizens. I have tossed a bottle of Vagisil into a frat guys basket and none of his buddies saw it happen.  I usually just carry stuff around the store with me and toss whatever into abandoned carts. The funniest thing i have ever tossed into a college kids cart while the parents were there was a HUGE value pack of condoms. The parents were lit when it slid across the scales. The kid (a female) was embarrassed and confused.
Moral of the story: Jared is a jerk and watch your cart in my town. But, do not judge me just yet. The next time you are behind a shopper doing exactly what i described this post will come back to you. A smile will cross your face and you will have an idea. Give it a try first. Good times will be had by all.
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2018, 09:03:54 PM
Do I see the beginnings of the RealMan "Shopping cart challenge?

Would start with a pic of an offending shopping cart, maybe of the owner too

Then the careful relocation or thoughtful addition. Extra points for pro trump stuff placed into hippie's carts

Then a pic of the discovery, or story of aftermath

Your buddies on the "Cart thread" would vote up or down.

Most posi votes per week and you are the winner

Most votes in a quarter and you are a big deal

Most votes in a year and you're the reigning champion who the rest of us strive to unseat

Not that I've put any thought into this or anything...
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Post by: stlaser on April 08, 2018, 11:34:09 PM
For the record, if you're not within 10 foot of your cart then that cart is up for grabs. At least when I need a cart........ :popcorn:
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Post by: JR on April 09, 2018, 12:06:09 AM
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Post by: JR on April 10, 2018, 12:22:29 PM
Flooring almost done (early pic). Had to do a little filling on the floor. For some reason the seams were off even though all the wood came from the same stack?

On another note, the little porter cable palm sander has been awesome! Used it to even out the filler and it was a monster.
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Post by: JR on April 12, 2018, 04:28:08 PM
Flooring is done sans the closet which I am doing now. This vinyl goes down OK, but really doesn't just "click" in, each piece needs a little coaxing with a mallet and roller.

Daughter comes home today from her appendicitis emergency. Can't climb the stairs for a few days so the room should be done when she is ready.

Can't believe it has been over 6 months on this. Thats all on me of course.
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Post by: JR on April 13, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
Flooring done, have a little touchup around a couple outlets is all.

Got some cheapo molding for the closet and another small shade as the first was not the same style as the large one (good ol HD)

No work this weekend, scout camp this weekend.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 13, 2018, 10:49:22 PM
Really looking good JR


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Post by: stlaser on April 14, 2018, 07:43:18 AM
Agree, looking good JR
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 14, 2018, 04:52:38 PM
That looks like a nice piece of heaven away from the boys


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Post by: JR on April 15, 2018, 10:26:46 PM
That looks like a nice piece of heaven away from the boys


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Thanks guys, works that way for me too. When finished off I will have my man cave back with stairs from the house.

Had a boyscout jamboree over the weekend, beautiful place just 15 mins from home (thank GOD!!)

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Post by: JR on April 17, 2018, 10:59:31 PM
Almost there but went camping with the boys his weekend. Now I am cleaning some to paint some trim and install the door (changed to a 30in)
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 17, 2018, 11:00:47 PM
looking good JR.  Whats the plan for base trim?
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Post by: JR on April 17, 2018, 11:16:19 PM
looking good JR.  Whats the plan for base trim?


Some 4in that had matching bullnose I found at HD. Have to cover those darn elec cutouts or I would have gone shorter. That is what I have to paint now. Cheep plastic 3in stuff went in the closet.
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2018, 08:56:11 AM
Really nice there JR!
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Post by: EL TATE on April 18, 2018, 10:42:21 AM
Lookin really good there, she's gotta be pumped even if she's sacked at the moment.
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Post by: JR on April 18, 2018, 11:11:57 AM
Today was the first day she went to school on time. Painting and sealing today.
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Post by: JR on April 24, 2018, 11:59:59 PM
Door in, AC mount up.

If you have cobwebs the spray will let you know!
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Post by: stlaser on April 25, 2018, 12:08:58 AM
Almost got that project in the bag!  :likebutton:
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Post by: JR on April 25, 2018, 12:13:54 AM
Really need to get it done. So much is piling up and have another scout trip this weekend!!

THX!!
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 25, 2018, 09:26:39 AM
^^^ Copy that!

Big projects really create delays in all the little ankle biter projects that seem to crop up.
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Post by: JR on April 26, 2018, 11:25:12 PM
No work again today.

Yard work in the AM then I found that my left front hub was bad again, so that had to get done.
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Post by: JR on May 04, 2018, 12:51:27 AM
Got all the baseboard painted and some of it on too. Used the HF $9.99 HVLP and it worked great. Over the years I have picked up several, they just work and I have spares!

Drilled the wall for the HVAC lines and did a test mount. Sits just right but the line come out in the middle of the wall outside! The ac line was right where it was supposed to be.

The Senco Fusion nailer proved its value again on the baseboards and the door trim. Never missed a beat and does a nice countersink to boot. Wish they would expand the line.

Not sure of the fuzzy pics?
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 04, 2018, 08:20:25 AM
I don’t think think the larger nails can sink well with the battery devices
I have tried to sucker the boss into buying some cordless nailers to try out and he just won’t because the pumps won’t keep up with a fast moving finger.   His words not mine.  I keep trying. 


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Post by: JR on May 04, 2018, 10:33:14 AM
This uses a nitrogen piston with a 15g brad nail. It nails as fast as you pull the trigger. I am using 1.5 and 2in nails, no problem at all.

Have only recharged the battery twice in 2 years.
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Post by: JR on May 04, 2018, 10:46:44 PM
Got a late start and about 1/2 the stairs carpeted. Looks OK for not doing it before, gotta love youtube  :cheesy:
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 05, 2018, 12:49:06 AM
Looks good from my house


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Jared Herzog on May 05, 2018, 10:56:14 AM
Those steps look great. When a company comes to carpet they add about $75 to carpet one step. Then an additional $75 per step. Lowes and Homedepot do this with the offer they have to carpet a house for $99. It does not include steps. So if you can do your own steps you can save big.
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Post by: JR on May 05, 2018, 03:03:23 PM
Thx Jared, I can see why though it is hard work even with the right tools. So I just saved around $1000 for my 12 steps! Plus the high end padding was free, the guy at lowes gave me big peice when I got the carpet.

Had a buddy who used to do my carpeting, showed my a lot.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 05, 2018, 06:04:07 PM
Jr take a picture of that stained wood, side view.  Looks good from the picture above


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Post by: rpar86 on May 05, 2018, 08:44:36 PM
Those steps look great. When a company comes to carpet they add about $75 to carpet one step. Then an additional $75 per step. Lowes and Homedepot do this with the offer they have to carpet a house for $99. It does not include steps. So if you can do your own steps you can save big.
All the recent ads I’ve heard from HD say they include steps.


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Post by: Jared Herzog on May 06, 2018, 09:00:59 AM
Those steps look great. When a company comes to carpet they add about $75 to carpet one step. Then an additional $75 per step. Lowes and Homedepot do this with the offer they have to carpet a house for $99. It does not include steps. So if you can do your own steps you can save big.
All the recent ads I’ve heard from HD say they include steps.


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That would be great. We have had customers call Lowes/Homedepot out to do carpet with the hope of a cheap install to have a large bid handed to them due to steps. We usually end up using our usual carpet guy who is not attached to Lowes/Homedepot. Once you have the right tools steps go pretty quickly.
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Post by: KensAuto on May 06, 2018, 02:59:24 PM
JR I'm going to look at those Sencos. The Feslodes are supposed to be almost as fast as air, and probably more than fast enough for a novice, but pricey.
Looks real good.

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Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 06, 2018, 04:42:20 PM
Looks professional.  Nicely done sir.


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Post by: JR on May 06, 2018, 07:29:27 PM
For Dave;
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Post by: JR on May 06, 2018, 07:38:34 PM
See HD lists the nailer for $320. I paid well under 2 for mine, NIB.

Pesolodes are nice, but you have to buy fuel for em.

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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 06, 2018, 10:59:55 PM
Turned out really good JR


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Post by: KensAuto on May 06, 2018, 11:06:58 PM
Oh, so the senco is just battery? I thought it might be fuel driven also because you mentioned nitrogen somewhere.
edit: just researched it. Pretty cool. Too bad they don't have a framer yet.
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Post by: JR on May 07, 2018, 02:32:14 AM
Yep with no real fuel it works fast and has no smell like others. I would like to see a framer also and have watched for one. But then again I like screws to much.

With that I made the platform for the BOX today. Used a builders sheet from lowes and cut it to match the grain of the floor. Will stain it grey and seal with poly like the stair casing. My clamps were a little short so I mounted on wood with scraps on the ends screwed in. Used the newer gorilla clear glue and shims to snug em up.
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Post by: Nate on May 07, 2018, 08:58:47 AM
What is that box hiding?
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Post by: JR on May 07, 2018, 11:12:25 AM
What is that box hiding?

HVAC intake, post 237.
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Post by: Nate on May 07, 2018, 10:33:19 PM
 :likebutton:
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Post by: JR on May 07, 2018, 11:57:00 PM
Almost there.
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Post by: JR on May 11, 2018, 01:27:16 AM
Well, got the cover painted and mounted. Sanded the cover down with 320 and gave it a few coats of poly. The HF gun did the job great with no thining.

Repainted the ceiling with a roller trying to hide the imperfections. Not perfect but it will do.

Cleaned up the baseboards and putty'd them up. Just need a little trim paint now.

All that is left is the baseboard painting and the HVAC hookup. (wiring and lines)

This is about as close to being done as you can get, she moves up this weekend  :beercheers:
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Post by: JR on May 11, 2018, 01:31:58 AM
The darn primer peeled right off the bullnose. No biggie as I had to trim and sand a little so it will need priming again.

Painters putty sure makes you look good, just don't look close!
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Post by: cudakidd53 on May 11, 2018, 07:00:56 AM
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 11, 2018, 07:04:02 AM
It’s a good feeling to do something with your own hands for your children’s benefit.

Looks great.


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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 11, 2018, 08:04:14 AM
Looks really good Jr
One question though.  Why didn’t you use flooring to cover the bench?


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Post by: Atkinsmatt on May 11, 2018, 08:42:01 AM
Great work Jr.
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Post by: JR on May 11, 2018, 09:51:50 AM
Looks really good Jr
One question though.  Why didn’t you use flooring to cover the bench?


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Thought about it, but the stained wood has a richer look and a nice sheen. Plus I still had to make a top for it and the flooring edge would had required a lip to blend it.

Thanks guys, hvac time and non to soon. Early spring and we are seeing mid 90s already.
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Post by: Sammconn on May 11, 2018, 10:00:44 PM
Looks real good JR!
She’ll be happy with the room.
You’ll be happy to be done.

We’ve been flip flopping from zero to mid 70’s.
Time to get on with spring here already.
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Post by: JR on May 12, 2018, 03:35:14 AM
Thx guys. Yes, glad to be done and I guess the bed makes it official!!

Getting the mattress out was an adventure in itself. 6in memory foam in a 10in sleeve.
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Post by: stlaser on May 12, 2018, 06:04:13 AM
 :likebutton: congrats on getting that project in rear view.
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Yes, Bravo!

Good tenacity

Great result!
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Post by: JR on May 12, 2018, 04:26:15 PM
She is in, boys are going nuts they get their own rooms too now. Youngest wanted a "black" room, oldest wanted a "camo" room. Neither won that round,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 12, 2018, 05:02:14 PM
How’s the ac working?


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Post by: JR on May 12, 2018, 05:05:46 PM
not yet
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Post by: cudakidd53 on May 12, 2018, 05:46:25 PM
There’s a happy young lady!  Windows and solitude  :azn:
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 12, 2018, 09:16:46 PM
If you had a camo room how would you ever find it?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on May 13, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
Door is not camo, just have to be smarter than the paint! Plus the boys are never quiet, easy to find.
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Post by: JR on May 16, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
Got the split comp. hooked up, not a lot of space and sitting on the roof.

Thought the AC line was dedicated, but it also goes to master bath and shed. Adding the comp and upstairs bath is way to much for that circuit.

I will run the line over from the head unit which I know is a dedicated #12 line right from the panel.
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Post by: stlaser on May 16, 2018, 10:34:12 PM
Shed, Electricity?
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Post by: JR on May 17, 2018, 11:13:31 AM
Fixed the post above, but I have a 10x12 shed out back with power.
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Post by: JR on May 23, 2018, 02:19:51 PM
With the room done it was time for the HVAC to get hooked up. Last of the hook ups went just fine, ending up not needing 110ac at the head unit so I capped off the lead but will still us it to run the system. Had a buddy come by with his pump and meter and it took about 15min with a vacuum check.   

Fired it up with the remote and it is quiet as can be in either heat or AC mode. Has full manual or auto controls on the remote, no controls on the head. The unit shows the temp setting on it face and the vent open closes per the operation, very nice.

This unit was $550 on ebay and worth every penny if it lasts at all. I really like the split system and the garage will be next!
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Post by: JR on May 23, 2018, 02:26:04 PM
Now I am framing up the little hallway and 1/2 bath. It will include a closet on the right at the top of the stairs and a barn door to the main dad room.

The plans changed a little from the ones posted earlier and I licked the wall out a few inches and moved the sink to the other side and a cubby for the toilet. I will see what I can draw up.

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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 23, 2018, 03:29:30 PM
Jr. What is the dimensions of that little cooling heating unit? 


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Post by: JR on May 23, 2018, 04:19:03 PM
Its 25in across, about 10 tall and 8 deep. 9500 btu cooling and 7000 btu heating.

Sure they make smaller ones. I was quoted 2K for a misti unit of the same size, wholesale!
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Post by: JR on May 25, 2018, 02:37:39 AM
Picked up a new Kolbalt Double compound miter saw, to replace my single miter. Stayed with the 10in, cuts almost everything and I have good blades for it. I also got tired of flipping boards for diff cuts and the motor seemed to get in the way all time, this ones up on top vs DD. 

Got 15% off when they gave me the standard 5 and I asked for the 10 and kept both! Little under $200 and selling the single will offset that alot.

Most of the wall now framed. Hoist came in handy getting the saw upstairs.

Hey, you guys notice Lowes is now selling Craftsman?? They bought Orchard which got them the line.
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
Holy crap!

Starting again...

You sound like me, never done with anything!

Well, it's good to work with one's hands says the Lord!
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Post by: KensAuto on May 25, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
Looks great JR. Happy girls, happy world.

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Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 25, 2018, 09:37:21 PM
good job JR, i bet the daughter is as happy as a girl at the mall

i saw craftsmen at lowes today 

interesting
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Post by: JR on May 25, 2018, 11:30:51 PM
Thx guys, yes she is happy.

Have to stay busy, just feels right!
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Post by: JR on May 28, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
As good as the insulation is working. I ordered another 350sf for the rest of the main room upstairs. Summer is here and it is hot up there!

The main room will get this roxul 30/16 and the storage areas will get 2 inch rigid foam and vapor barrier.

Need to ask Jared about venting since the room has no room for regular vents.
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Post by: Tommy13 on May 29, 2018, 08:26:23 AM
Looks great JR!  Looking forward to watching the next phase take shape.  :likebutton:
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Post by: JR on June 01, 2018, 02:50:53 AM
Well, went ahead and did it, drilled some holes for the vents. Beam is just 14x5 so there is a little more room than I thought. Still need to find a wider ridge shingle, may have to make my own as well as the venting itself.

Only did the 1st 3 bays since it will be covered soon with the hallway. Holes are 1.5 to give me an idea on the location both on the shingles and how wide my vent must be. When done I will cover 2 16in vents which one leaks and just can't seem to fix it. Have another leak from a skylight on the other side. The vent ridge will allow both of these to be addressed.

5x1.5in holes give me almost 9sqin so I may do 6 in the rest of the bays for a little over 10sqin. Not quite as much as the 14sqin I get with a slot but it will have to do. 
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 01, 2018, 07:26:47 AM
What did you use to drill the 1 1/2 holes.  Pretty clean looking holes


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Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 01, 2018, 07:29:13 AM
Im guessing a forstner bit
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Post by: JR on June 01, 2018, 10:27:28 AM
What did you use to drill the 1 1/2 holes.  Pretty clean looking holes


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1.5 lenox hole saw, cut great and its 20 years old.
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Post by: JR on June 02, 2018, 01:34:57 AM
Stairway was a hotbox in the heat so I lined it with foam. Already had all but 1 small piece. Spreads the light nice too.

Doorway and cabinet roughed in.
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Post by: JR on June 06, 2018, 01:16:03 AM
Last week of school so little is getting done, but some.

Drilled the vent holes out to the roof and there will be 6 vs the 5 I started with.

Wall sheeted and door added. That will be a slider later. Now the house AC will work only enough for this 4x8 hallway. Insulation tomorrow.
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Post by: stlaser on June 06, 2018, 06:33:48 AM
Did you get ridge vent on?
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Post by: JR on June 06, 2018, 01:28:04 PM
I have to make the vent and still looking at options of mesh vs plastic. I have some in hand and can cover it in minutes if need be. Right now I just have about 6ft opened up
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Post by: JR on June 15, 2018, 03:12:53 PM
Plumbers came by and did the underhouse connections. For some reason this just wasn't for me this time.

Bad thing is I found out I have recalled ABS and the line broke upstream when they cut it. I run down and get some new pipe and a slip joint and it was still $250 for just over an hours work.

At least I don't have to go back under there, the garage sink runs better and it won't back up into the bathtub now.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 15, 2018, 07:33:45 PM
Some things are better paid for


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Post by: JR on June 27, 2018, 12:16:58 AM
Only have to run about 2ft to hit the toilet. Pushed the wall back so the vent will be boxed into the corner.

Little 1.5in  for the sink and vent and rough plumbing done.
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Post by: stlaser on June 27, 2018, 01:21:33 AM
How did the ridge vent turn out?
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Post by: JR on June 27, 2018, 02:41:48 AM
How did the ridge vent turn out?

Still in progress. Have to drill out another 20 bays yet and get mesh vent. Have the shingles to cover it quick. Been slow with kids out of school.
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Post by: JR on June 30, 2018, 08:01:50 PM
Been in the 100's so working on the plumbing some.

Got the sink vented and decided to stay with cpvc, keeping the house the same. Put shut off in the lines for upstairs vs every item. It is in a access panel in the laundry.

Also we had a bad smell coming from the new split system and think it was from the drain that ran into the vent . So got this P trap and plumbed it in (adding a little H20) and siliconed the tube in.

It also gets really hot up the stairway/hall even with insulation so I think an exhaust fan is in order moving the hot air into the main space.

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Post by: JR on July 03, 2018, 10:57:39 PM
Drilled the holes for 1/2 the ridge vent. almost 26ft and won't have time to finish before we cruise out next week.

Had a leak from the vent so out it comes. Ridge vent will do its work now anyway.
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Post by: JR on July 03, 2018, 11:15:58 PM
With all drilled out I filled the hole form the vent and threw a piece of 30# felt up.

Sealed up the hole from the bottom too. Sure a little overkill but I had the stuff.

Roof is brutal on the hole saws. After 2 lenox saws, I got this bite with carbid tips and easy clean slots. It works great and just a buck more than a lenox and fit the arbor.

Tomorrow early I will shingle and trim the vent to fit.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 04, 2018, 09:47:09 AM
We used to tip roofs off with a skill saw, we would turn the blade around to cut shingles, worked ok


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Post by: stlaser on July 04, 2018, 09:49:46 AM
Looking good JR, keep us updated....
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Post by: JR on July 04, 2018, 06:10:06 PM
Got the repair shingled, came out OK. Color is off but the roof is 10 years old. Had to redrill several of the vents.

Went with 5in ridge beam I had to use 7in vent on both sides. So twice the vent and another row of shingles over that, then cap the top. I was going to tape the seam, but figured 3 layers over it was enough.

Vent worked out great with holes about dead center. Got it all capped off just before the 4th stuff. The other side will have to wait for vacations that start the 8th.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2019, 01:25:53 PM
Well, figured I should update this as the bathroom has been done for several weeks now. Just need to trim around the door.


2 small hitches is the silicon I used around the edge did not cure? Was just 1 tube of white, never happen before and name brand stuff too. Other was the stick on baseboard didn't. It was the rolled stuff where I used the strips before. Neither affects use so I will get to them.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2019, 01:29:20 PM
Supervisor was on duty on the stairs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

She wanted yellow, so it is. Added a closet to the far side and will make the sliding door to what left of the man cave.
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Post by: Flyin6 on November 28, 2019, 01:32:40 PM
Kinda like that sink
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2019, 02:16:15 PM
Good Ol Ikea sink, fit in the cubby,


Then last week I got to the stair roof before the weather hits this year ( I need a few more projects)

Tear off wasn't bad, parked the 1011 near the work and threw it in. Free pass at the dump to boot.

Had to deal with the double roof again. Built up the old roof and with the new framing it is stout.
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 28, 2019, 02:20:15 PM
Got it framed up and figured the overhang and venting.
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Post by: JR on November 28, 2019, 02:28:46 PM
Fabed a screen vent and sealed it with roofing cement using tape to keep the stuff from just oozing through the screen.

By the way, all screws cept for the roofing. Roofing shown is water barrier that I got on just as it started to rain!

Next will be a little siding (cleaning up the old AC cutout) and flashing. Have a modern HVAC vent also vs the 2 pipes sticking out (1 for now, exhaust)
Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 28, 2019, 07:29:30 PM
Does the upside down exterior weather paper bother anyone else?


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 28, 2019, 07:34:40 PM
Does the upside down exterior weather paper bother anyone else?


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If it will make you happy, you can come fix it before I cover it up,,,,,,,,,,,,, :popcorn:
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 29, 2019, 07:49:35 AM
Looks good Jr. out of curiosity was there any particular reason not to follow the roof line out instead of the way you did?  Maybe I’m missing the bigger picture here?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191129/7cf60e15c4d4bba84fcd89357d880f8d.jpg)


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Title: Re: Upstairs Add On started
Post by: JR on November 29, 2019, 08:43:53 AM
In the long run it may have been a better option. Evened out the roofline too. However it is done now and was done in a few days.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on November 29, 2019, 09:03:57 PM
Understood.  As long as its watertight. That’s the important part.


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