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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #100 on: April 01, 2019, 10:09:19 AM »
To my knowledge it was offered all the way to 06.   Rumor mill said they stopped the option because of the blind spot in the back but.... you could still do a split gate and a solid window.  Hybrid type of option





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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #101 on: April 01, 2019, 10:14:16 AM »
His is the hatch style. That's where the RX bag got stickied.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #102 on: April 01, 2019, 10:34:25 AM »
Yes thinking climbing in and out of that after it’s lifted to reach the Tp might cause me to in the process.  Need a hinge on that shelve system lol


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #103 on: April 01, 2019, 10:43:24 AM »
Any possibility to putting that set up on a sing out hinge? Like your tire carrier?  Swing it out back so you don’t have to climb inside

Is this bar doors or drop gate?


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Dave, There's like thirty six hundred pics on this thread of the back end of the truck (showing the rear hatch) Scroll backward just a few entries to where I velcroed the hatchet inside the rear hatch
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And my favorite is by far the barn door. I looked for the longest time for a good clean lower mileage 8.1L barn door 2000 or 2001. I have never seen a barn door any newer, was surprised, actually, to read here that they were produced until 06.

And BTW, the competition for this Burb was a 1999 2500 with a 454 and of course, Barn doors. That one was $5000, one heck of a buy...But...Rust just coming through.
Don don't do stock, and Don don't do rust.

But to answer your question, that is an excellent idea, and with time I could probably pull that off. Maybe in the future...

For now and maybe for now on, TBD, its this bin gox separator/organizer thing.

I envision stopping at night and pulling out a few things, or unpacking for longer stays.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2019, 12:08:44 PM »
Any possibility to putting that set up on a sing out hinge? Like your tire carrier?  Swing it out back so you don’t have to climb inside

Is this bar doors or drop gate?


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Dave, There's like thirty six hundred pics on this thread of the back end of the truck (showing the rear hatch) Scroll backward just a few entries to where I velcroed the hatchet inside the rear hatch
Knucklehead!

And my favorite is by far the barn door. I looked for the longest time for a good clean lower mileage 8.1L barn door 2000 or 2001. I have never seen a barn door any newer, was surprised, actually, to read here that they were produced until 06.

And BTW, the competition for this Burb was a 1999 2500 with a 454 and of course, Barn doors. That one was $5000, one heck of a buy...But...Rust just coming through.
Don don't do stock, and Don don't do rust.

But to answer your question, that is an excellent idea, and with time I could probably pull that off. Maybe in the future...

For now and maybe for now on, TBD, its this bin gox separator/organizer thing.

I envision stopping at night and pulling out a few things, or unpacking for longer stays.

RUST!!! The nightmare of old dodge :( spent a about a month replacing the floor, and chasing rust out of this cab.... still didn’t get it all but should be good for another 40years.



Sorry for junkin up your thread,  but wise choice on avoiding the 99 with rust... that should give you an idea of what rust is good for.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #106 on: April 01, 2019, 12:28:39 PM »
Found this article interesting regarding the shackle flip and towing stability. You might already know all this, but I picked up some tidbits I didn’t know.
https://ck5.com/forums/threads/shackle-flip-stability.23402/


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Post 11 covers what I was getting to.

I think a panhard rod would really help this issue as well as a sway with all that stuff up top!

Blind spot? They all have cameras now anyway. It was done to cut costs, one style=easier to produce.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #107 on: April 01, 2019, 05:47:11 PM »
https://www.4-wheelclassics.com/vehicles/236/1999-gmc-suburban


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That's where i purchased mine at

See that price??
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2019, 08:04:53 PM »
I see that price.... where do you think I found the website.  They offer some cool stuff


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« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2019, 09:04:36 PM »
I see that price.... where do you think I found the website.  They offer some cool stuff


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And although that is spendy, I think we need to rethink buying vehicles.

The new trucks are just too expensive, they make no sense and a lot of the coin you are spending is on some poorly thought out exotic and expensive pollution control device.

You're literally giving thousands just so the manufacturer can make some government bureaucrat satisfied.

So whatever you spend on a good survivor vehicle, it could make sense. Keep it fitted out and running well over the years and did it really matter that you spent $5K more than you should have.

I'm thinking you should prioritize body/chassis condition over mechanical. Mechanical is easy to fix and less expensive than replacing and chasing rusty metal. Get the old 454 bruiser, then rebuild it to your specs and liking and enjoy for years and years.

The thought of spending 70K on something new is so far from anything that makes sense...I wonder how the big three plan to sustain sales of these homes on wheels?? 15-20 year financing?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #110 on: April 01, 2019, 09:37:15 PM »
The off topic is real, but the increase of car prices, think of the cost of homes.  We have people dropping $800-1000 k on them.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #111 on: April 01, 2019, 10:42:50 PM »
https://www.4-wheelclassics.com/vehicles/236/1999-gmc-suburban


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #112 on: April 02, 2019, 07:38:00 PM »
Clamped the bin box thing up overnight to allow the glue to set up after adding all the dividers

It didn't change like some of the things I weld up!
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« Reply #113 on: April 02, 2019, 07:38:54 PM »
I did some contouring to the back side, outside in this beautiful spring day
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« Reply #114 on: April 02, 2019, 07:39:32 PM »
The fit is good so far
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #115 on: April 02, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
Looking at points to secure the thing, and not wanting to start drilling holes, I found this coat hook plastic piece, which I removed. Inside I found a "T" shaped opening, si I created a "T" bolt to slide in there and lock in place
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #116 on: April 02, 2019, 07:43:20 PM »
And found a spot in the front to use as well. No drilling, that stud was the perfect size and simply screwed into the hole in the inner panel
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« Reply #117 on: April 02, 2019, 07:45:28 PM »
To those I bent up some aluminum brackets, then pressed in some nutserts which capture a bolt coming up from the cabinet bin thing

Some finish painting and that project is in the bag
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #118 on: April 02, 2019, 07:48:58 PM »
The trucks were not stopping today. First Brian's excellent bumpers came in

Yep, I just tossed it into the trash in the corner of her garage to allow it to rust for awhile.

Actually, studying them, I am well pleased by the design and workmanship. And they are no where near as heavy as I had thought. Using the thinner 11 gage for the wings cut down on a lot of weight, but they gave up some strength. It's a balance and I decided that the line would fall here where it did.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #119 on: April 02, 2019, 08:48:50 PM »
Don, That shelf came out nice but I have a small suggestion. Cover the back for 2 reasons;

It will look all cluttered from the outside with all the stuff in there tinted window or not.

It will be pushed on and tested, shearing is needed to keep it solid. Even just the bases and a couple compartments will help a lot.

Going to paint it grey right :likebutton:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #120 on: April 02, 2019, 08:57:15 PM »
Don, That shelf came out nice but I have a small suggestion. Cover the back for 2 reasons;

It will look all cluttered from the outside with all the stuff in there tinted window or not.

It will be pushed on and tested, shearing is needed to keep it solid. Even just the bases and a couple compartments will help a lot.

Going to paint it grey right :likebutton:
I could cover the back. I purchased two sheets of 1/4" so I'll look at doing that before primer.

I actually plan to spray it with bed liner to give it a durable finish. One of those compartments is for sandals, another for a towel, and some other things like that. Paint would not hold up, I am thinking. Anyway, I plan to have that done tomorrow.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #121 on: April 02, 2019, 08:59:18 PM »
The neighbor kid and my pre-Ranger pulled up in this buggy

How cool is that!

Both of them plan on going to West Point together and making a full 20-30 year career as Army Officers

Makes you feel good to see young men like these
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« Reply #122 on: April 02, 2019, 09:03:02 PM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #123 on: April 02, 2019, 09:17:05 PM »
So another truck dropped off the SmittyBilt roof rack I just ordered

I wanted to test fit the brakes and hubs to the mugo axle today, but I though I had better reduce some of the clutter by getting rid of this rack box.
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« Reply #124 on: April 02, 2019, 09:18:44 PM »
It is a three piece unit and my plan was to not install the center piece and build up a shorty rack that could be fitted along with the roof tent

After assembling which only took 4 ea bolts and a few minutes
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« Reply #125 on: April 02, 2019, 09:21:45 PM »
The fit on the existing 80/20 roof rack system was downright perfect. The rack's 48" width fell perfectly on top of the longitudinal rails and by repositioning a lateral bar I had some great points to anchor the rack, which also strengthened up the existing roof system
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #126 on: April 02, 2019, 09:24:31 PM »
That was it for time. Yesterday our oldest daughter delivered her forth child, a baby girl, Rory. I shopped this morning and prepared them dinner for their homecoming. It's good to serve our fellow man, and really good to serve your family...your growing family, your family which won't freakin' stop growin' your fami.... :facepalm:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #127 on: April 02, 2019, 09:33:26 PM »
Looking at that last photo of the rig you posted.  You had better get some window tint on that big monster.   You don’t want all those expensive parts to make you a target for lazy A-holes who take things

You could maybe try some black out something or another    Maybe that cheapo spray paint that you can peel off.  Plasti dip black


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #128 on: April 02, 2019, 10:05:04 PM »
Just have them limo out the whole thing. Sucks at night sometimes using the outside mirrors is all, never use the middle anyway.

Yep, a lightbar across the lower part would be great and the straight ones a cheaper. Just got a 46 incher for $45 on fleebay.

Congrads on another grandchild. Hope I have many years before that.
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2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #129 on: April 02, 2019, 10:05:25 PM »
Are you worried about the blind spot out that rear window now with that organizer?

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« Reply #130 on: April 02, 2019, 10:09:03 PM »
Are you worried about the blind spot out that rear window now with that organizer?

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Reverse camera,,,,,,,,,
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« Reply #131 on: April 02, 2019, 10:11:01 PM »
Are you worried about the blind spot out that rear window now with that organizer?

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Reverse camera,,,,,,,,,

While checking his right rear blind spot when changing lanes going down the highway?


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #132 on: April 02, 2019, 10:39:53 PM »
Worried? No
Aware, yes

Everything you do is a compromise of some kind or another. Leave the window unobstructed and lose the storage space, but gain visibility. Lose the visibility but gain valuable organized storage.

Obviously, I have decided to go this way with it as I am prioritizing the overland capability aspect of the truck over not collidin' with some low rider jap car.

Thought about redneckin it out to the point people just see me and move to avoid.

You know, fishing rod hanging out of one window, double barrel out of the other one, maybe a dog leash with a collar and nothing else hooked to the bumper ;-))
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #133 on: April 02, 2019, 10:39:56 PM »
Truck shell on c max means he doesn’t look out the blind spot. 


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #134 on: April 02, 2019, 10:41:32 PM »
Are you going to upgrade mirrors?  They sell a good replacement on a1 auto that matches c max tow mirrors


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« Reply #135 on: April 02, 2019, 11:08:12 PM »
Are you going to upgrade mirrors?  They sell a good replacement on a1 auto that matches c max tow mirrors


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Hmmm, hadn't thought about it.

Have to check that out

Edit: I went to the A1 Auto reference. Great mirror, I purchased them!
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« Reply #136 on: April 02, 2019, 11:19:42 PM »
Get factories if you do that. I only use my rear view to look inside, outside mirrors for outside,,,,,,,
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #137 on: April 03, 2019, 07:08:41 AM »
Those bumpers take care of blind spots. Limo all but the front. 35% on the front and you can still use your side mirrors at night. And avoid legal hassles in your travels


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« Reply #138 on: April 03, 2019, 07:17:08 AM »
Agreed on the tint. Anything darker than 35% makes the side mirrors useless at night. Its a pain in the butt to have to roll your windows down in the rain to back a trailer.


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« Reply #139 on: April 03, 2019, 08:09:07 AM »
I know my state enforces the window tint law pretty strictly.  In my youth it was a regular hassle.  Even though your not registered here you don’t need that attention.   Legal window tint


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #140 on: April 03, 2019, 08:39:51 AM »
That was it for time. Yesterday our oldest daughter delivered her forth child, a baby girl, Rory. I shopped this morning and prepared them dinner for their homecoming. It's good to serve our fellow man, and really good to serve your family...your growing family, your family which won't freakin' stop growin' your fami.... :facepalm:

Congrats on new arrival. Hoping everyone is healthy and happy.

How are your wife and son doing? She feeling better?
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« Reply #141 on: April 03, 2019, 08:55:05 AM »
That was it for time. Yesterday our oldest daughter delivered her forth child, a baby girl, Rory. I shopped this morning and prepared them dinner for their homecoming. It's good to serve our fellow man, and really good to serve your family...your growing family, your family which won't freakin' stop growin' your fami.... :facepalm:

Congrats on new arrival. Hoping everyone is healthy and happy.

How are your wife and son doing? She feeling better?
Thanks Mike

Yea, we are doing well. We have gone forward for prayer and had elders pray over us as per instructions in the good book. Kat still gets winded sometimes, but hey, she walks the neighborhood. She was struggling just going five feet in the hospital. So something is improving.
In our past, there came a time when she tore her rotator cup and the doctors said there was no option except for surgery. She would have none of that. God created us, he can fix us. She started seeking him and getting prayer. Approaching surgery time, she was gaining mobility which the doctor could not explain. so another MRI revealed the tear was gone! Like as in it was never damaged in the first place. A few weeks later we went to Italy. I trained at the Agusta-Westland factory on the AW-139 and she stayed in the hotel with me for a few weeks on a vacation. Was a great one. When I got signed off, we "Borrowed" N139EV (Goggle it for pics) and went for a great lunch over in Bella, Italy, then a nice flight up into the Alps and down along Lago Majorie.

Oh and the not so little pre-Ranger is back to working out. Tried to go to an early pre-pre season football practice last Monday, but I put the Kibosh on that. He just likes getting out and tackling stuff.

Tangents, sorry, just brought back a cool memory. So, yea, try and repent and live a righteous life and stay connected to the spring of life and he will take care of things...Amazing!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #142 on: April 03, 2019, 10:36:53 AM »
https://www.4-wheelclassics.com/vehicles/236/1999-gmc-suburban


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There’s paperwork in there from JiffyLube - wonder if there is any oil in the engine? ;)


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« Reply #143 on: April 03, 2019, 01:24:33 PM »
How does one “borrow” a plane that size?


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #144 on: April 03, 2019, 03:53:17 PM »
Blasphemy, never confuse an egg beater for a fixed wing!!!!!

But things like that get Borrowed all the time, as long as you don't scratch it most company/governments would never be the wiser, most of the items I have borrowed consume way too much fuel so you have to be really careful.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #145 on: April 03, 2019, 06:13:41 PM »
How does one “borrow” a plane that size?


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The company you work for has to own it

They need to think you are out doing some training

You do all the preflight checks just like it was training

You land at some intermediate site, like, say a parking lot

Where a very pretty girl is usually somehow involved, meets you

And you fly away on a nice adventure.

I think I have a vid of her sitting in the back lovin' life!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #146 on: April 03, 2019, 06:53:38 PM »
OK, so I started placing things where I envisioned they might go. The bin is obviously going to get much fuller over time, but here's the start
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #147 on: April 03, 2019, 06:55:18 PM »
After Playing with that, I pulled it out, and finish sanded it, then coated it with duplicolor truck bed liner. I did not like how it turned out, much too thin, laid out flat, not textured like I wanted, so tomorrow I'll redo it with something else
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #148 on: April 03, 2019, 06:57:06 PM »
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 3
« Reply #149 on: April 03, 2019, 06:57:41 PM »
I decided to place the CB antenna on the roof rack. I invented a friction sleeve to allow me to position it about anywhere I wanted and at any angle

Starting with a big bolt, a shock washer, a single sway bar bushing and some idle time, I created this:
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