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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #300 on: May 01, 2015, 08:47:32 AM »
I like the under hood light idear. I saved that in my memory for when I actually have a hood to mount it on.

On your spring theory. I aim to test some 64" 3/4T  rears in our truck and see just how well they work to improve the "hobby Horse" issue that club cab and crew cab Dodges have. It's a wheelbase deal that is largely absent in a standard cab truck. If it wasn't for this issue, I wouldn't change the rear springs in ours honestly.

I feel the OEM W250 springs in my daily driver standard cab are too soft really. Then again it most likely often hauls more weight than you intend to for your project. But 1000lbs in the bed and you can feel they are soft. I wouldn't want less spring rate.

Just added the above for food for thought....








Noted!

The Silverado springs are uprated over the stockers. I am currently running Skyjacker soft rides...as in brand new, never been driven on, waste of money...yep
Stockers are what 1775 ea? The silvy springs are more, but I will routinely be carrying the extra fuel tank, say 1/3rd full, a spare tire, big bumper, maybe a rear winch, and three 5 gal water cans, along with spare parts, survival gear and a down pillow!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #301 on: May 01, 2015, 10:44:03 AM »
When I was looking for my springs the Sky Jackers and pro comps were always given a bad review. I also notice later when I got other parts (been an expensive month) there were special notes if you bought those brands.
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #302 on: May 01, 2015, 12:40:01 PM »
Coming together well. It's still early and you may not be done under the hood but noticed there is no air filter and piping on the turbo yet. I suspect it's likely on the shelf and soon coming.

WE WANT TO SEE IT RUN!  ::)
And at this rate the bumpers may end up in a "Part 7".
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I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #303 on: May 01, 2015, 07:32:07 PM »
DO YOU WANT TO SEE IT RUN????
I will likely be using the stock air box, although modified along with the stock supply hose, but I am going to fully enclose that inside of the fender so that the snorkel system will function.

For now, I am leaving all that off because I want to be able to use the old 2 X 6 or Duane's hand to cover the turbo should a run-away occur

Part 7?? Man we still have something like 30 more pages to go here before we start crazy talk like that!  :o
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« Reply #304 on: May 02, 2015, 06:51:03 PM »
This is starting to sound like a "stimulase program" as any "normal" person would just get that bugger fired up just because they could!

30 pages, sure you could, but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Lets here it run
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« Reply #305 on: May 02, 2015, 09:05:02 PM »
This is the thread that motivates me, it drives my desire to wrench on our project, it feeds my thirst for ideas and knowledge. I built a weed sprayer today while I wait....  ;D

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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #306 on: May 02, 2015, 10:17:36 PM »
I have a few odds and ends to get done. like figure out the trans shift linkage and kick down mechanism, and I still don't have brakes, but I think I'll chock it up and start it up...if it will, this coming week.
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« Reply #307 on: May 02, 2015, 11:39:55 PM »
Heck I haven't got a final plan on my engine/tranny combo yet. I have all the same to do and more, plus mine didn't start with a CTD.

Don, don't get me wrong. Your build has motivated a lot of what is happening here, all around.
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« Reply #308 on: May 03, 2015, 08:20:11 AM »
Heck I haven't got a final plan on my engine/tranny combo yet. I have all the same to do and more, plus mine didn't start with a CTD.

Don, don't get me wrong. Your build has motivated a lot of what is happening here, all around.
JR, I don't get you wrong
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Don't be getting all girly on me here!
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« Reply #309 on: May 03, 2015, 02:45:20 PM »
Just giving credit where credit is due even with the DOT side notes  8)
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« Reply #310 on: May 03, 2015, 08:11:30 PM »
Just giving credit where credit is due even with the DOT side notes  8)

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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #311 on: May 06, 2015, 08:58:58 PM »
The ball got moved down-field a bit more today

But first, JR, here's the late coming pics showing tire to fender lip clearance with the HMMV wheels B.S. set around 3.5"
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« Reply #312 on: May 06, 2015, 09:02:52 PM »
I did an all day mammoth cleaning and garage reset. I needed it. Work was slowing down because of the mess and missing parts and tools. It took awhile, but things are now where they should be.

On the table is parts of things to come

With the rear spring swap project eminent the table is now a collection of parts which will be either used or selected through for fitment. I have 5 different sets of shackles to choose from so I can do some fine tuning
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« Reply #313 on: May 06, 2015, 09:05:02 PM »
I also have The supplied angle wedges to re-angle the axle housing if need be. These are cut from steel
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« Reply #314 on: May 06, 2015, 09:06:41 PM »
The front and rear spring hangers are pretty stout. Haven't decided if I am going to weld them on or bolt them on. I hate drilling big holes!
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« Reply #315 on: May 06, 2015, 09:07:45 PM »
Also found my T/V cable during the cleanup, so that will get installed right away
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« Reply #316 on: May 06, 2015, 09:08:40 PM »
Looky here...Fewer boxes and a red jap maple clearly visible through my very dirty windows
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #317 on: May 06, 2015, 09:10:40 PM »
With an assist from Tate, I got to Morgan, the hub guy over at Yukon gear and Randy's R&P

We talked enough about the issues I was having so that I finally figured the problem I was having out
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« Reply #318 on: May 06, 2015, 09:17:41 PM »
I was happy to discover I had only misplaced, lost, or vacuumed up a few of the parts...some nylon washers for the screws that hold on the outer selector. The problem has been the spring. As you try to insert the coupling assembly, the spring unwinds just a bit and falls into the outer lock ring retaining groove of the hub. That kills any attempt to push that geat assembly into the hub any further.

Morgan suggested I get a smallish screwdriver and "Work the spring out of the groove while applying pressure to the gear until it finally unseats and conforms to the space it was designed to fill.

I went one better and I think this technique is a keeper. Take a small length of electricians tape and wrap (Stretch it around the loose end. Keep that end facing out, then take the gear and push back. The spring will slide into the groove, but with a little coaxing of a screwdriver small enough to fit between the hub and the gear. one little poke and the thing slid together!
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« Reply #319 on: May 06, 2015, 09:19:02 PM »
I found it quite impossible to use the supplied spacer which for my application is .196" thick so I left it out
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« Reply #320 on: May 06, 2015, 09:22:04 PM »
Two other components are assembled into the hub then secured with one of Yukon's snap ring things, then the outer hub can be bolted on to finish the job. I torgued each screw to 140 ft lbs!




You believe that?


Maybe 140 inch pounds! but I used ST torque (Sorta tight)
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« Reply #321 on: May 06, 2015, 09:25:08 PM »
And just like that I was done with an abbreviated SDWD (Square D Work Day).

Feel a little cheated?

Well, you'll have to deal with those misplaced emotions.

Man I had to fuss with the web site for hours, then waste time on emails, then cut the grass, then go get the red dog at the groomers (Wanted to leave it there, but they called!) train the black death Ranger dog, and finally get some time on the new/old Dodge
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« Reply #322 on: May 07, 2015, 12:31:14 AM »
Thanks for the Pics, the spacing looks great with 3.5, which way to go!!

I like the hubs, looks finished and gives me some forward sight on my install. In fact I emailed Tate today about parts!

Gotta post in my thread, been a very expensive week and parts are flowing in  ;D
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« Reply #323 on: May 07, 2015, 07:39:39 AM »
Don where did you get those spring hangers in your picture?

I just changed that TV cable on my Daily truck last week. Amazingly still available from Dodge to the tune of $120.


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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #324 on: May 07, 2015, 08:17:58 AM »
Glad the hubs are done.  Great build.
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« Reply #325 on: May 07, 2015, 08:57:36 AM »
Don where did you get those spring hangers in your picture?

I just changed that TV cable on my Daily truck last week. Amazingly still available from Dodge to the tune of $120.



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« Reply #326 on: May 07, 2015, 09:01:03 AM »
Don where did you get those spring hangers in your picture?

I just changed that TV cable on my Daily truck last week. Amazingly still available from Dodge to the tune of $120.



I'm not really seeing how that thing works. It doesn't slide back and forth like a cable, but twists like some big long flexible screw...weird.

I'm sure it must be something like, Don, that's a left handed TV cable, you're right handing it...bonehead...!
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Re: SquareD Part 6 Starting to finish!!!
« Reply #328 on: May 07, 2015, 10:51:42 AM »
I found it quite impossible to use the supplied spacer which for my application is .196" thick so I left it out

Did you reach around and push the axle outwards before trying to install that thrust washer? Those things are pretty important.
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« Reply #329 on: May 07, 2015, 11:24:03 AM »
I found it quite impossible to use the supplied spacer which for my application is .196" thick so I left it out

Did you reach around and push the axle outwards before trying to install that thrust washer? Those things are pretty important.
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No I didn't

But I talked with Morgan about it, about leaving it out and he seemed to be in agreement that if I couldn't get it to line up, then do as I did. He mentioned that some folks had to grind down the spacer somewhat to get it to fit.

Now, having said all that...darnit, I didn't think of pushing out on the axle stub!
Errrrr...
So I sent Morgan at Yukon a message and asked for his advice. If I need to redo it, I will...
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« Reply #330 on: May 07, 2015, 04:41:50 PM »
Morgan says: OK to leave out with that hub. You're golden Pony Boy
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« Reply #331 on: May 07, 2015, 08:05:24 PM »
Looks like you are getting closer all the time!!  Everything looks great Don, very jealous of your progress!
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« Reply #332 on: May 07, 2015, 08:52:56 PM »
Morgan says: OK to leave out with that hub. You're golden Pony Boy

Well there you have it big D. I guess since I'm not familiar with those hubs, I should've kept my mouth shut. lol
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« Reply #333 on: May 07, 2015, 08:54:30 PM »
Morgan says: OK to leave out with that hub. You're golden Pony Boy
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« Reply #334 on: May 07, 2015, 08:57:32 PM »
OK, another build day has come to a close. Tonight the pictures are awful...my apologies. I got something on the lens and did not notice it so there are spots everywhere.

Oh well, not repeating the day so here goes

First up I cleaned and prepped that TV cable and even partially installed it when I figured out it will not fit a P-Pump motor!!!!!!
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« Reply #335 on: May 07, 2015, 09:00:30 PM »
Next I went after the shift linkage. I discovered the bushings in the lower linkage are toast, so that project failed as well. Good thing is I can order the needed parts and get those things fixed. Intent is to start the thing up and I want brakes which I do not have, and I want it to be in park when I start it so I don't get a new entrance into the dining room
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« Reply #336 on: May 07, 2015, 09:02:17 PM »
But I did get the horn installed and working...Murphy 2/ Don 1
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« Reply #337 on: May 07, 2015, 09:03:17 PM »
And I brought the fuel level up to 10 gallons with no lower leaks, but the neck is leaking and needs attention
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« Reply #338 on: May 07, 2015, 09:05:38 PM »
Another small victory, but I'll take it. M2/D2

I always have a pocket project in case the thing I am trying to get done craps out. That pocket project today was to swap out the interiors, so I started with this mess:
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« Reply #339 on: May 07, 2015, 09:06:47 PM »
I laid the new carpet out in the sun to unfold, settle and flatten out. Sun's rays: Check!
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« Reply #340 on: May 07, 2015, 09:08:19 PM »
After some wrenching, out came the replacement cool guy seats. Admittedly, I am not cool enough for such seats...what was I thinkin'??
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« Reply #341 on: May 07, 2015, 09:09:12 PM »
Getting barren once again in there
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« Reply #342 on: May 07, 2015, 09:10:42 PM »
As promised, the wires on the floor were sandwiched between the rubber matt noise cancelling stuff...That will be a very quiet spot!
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« Reply #343 on: May 07, 2015, 09:12:04 PM »
The new carpet fit better when I tossed it in there then to other plastic matt did after I fussed with it for awhile
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« Reply #344 on: May 07, 2015, 09:13:10 PM »
While I had clear access to the rear, I threw in a couple Boston Acoustic speakers my brother gave me last summer
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« Reply #345 on: May 07, 2015, 09:14:10 PM »
The rear factory speakers are in like new condition. They are marked "Premium" on the back of the magnet
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« Reply #346 on: May 07, 2015, 09:15:02 PM »
New units are larger and heavier
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« Reply #347 on: May 07, 2015, 09:15:54 PM »
I had to solder some wires to the terminals to connect into the factory harness
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« Reply #348 on: May 07, 2015, 09:17:05 PM »
And after drilling 4 holes each for the #10 stainless screws, the speakers were fitted back into their cavity
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« Reply #349 on: May 07, 2015, 09:18:34 PM »
Next I cut in the holes for the seat and the belts and reinstalled the factory seat belts
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