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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2019, 06:31:06 PM »
I was being stupid...you said "4l80"...4 speed, electronic (read:stand alone computer) and the newer ones are 6l80...6 speeds.
Pretty sure it might be cheaper to have a fully electronic system (fuel injected) to run one of those trannies because the GM PCMs also run the trans.
The cheapest stand alone trans controllers on Summit start at 5 bills.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2019, 06:39:42 PM »
Luckily I have time to figure it out, last I knew they were still working on sorting out the title work...

Maybe I’ll just run an nv4500 to that 203 low range box....
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2019, 06:55:28 PM »
Across the street is nice, maybe the other as a backup for a rainy day,,,,,,,,,,,,

With all the 6L80Es being run out there, you would figure a cheaper controller would be available for it.

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2019, 07:03:42 PM »
Jr, I am considering buying a back up. Supposedly the one in Norm and Nate’s back yard is being sold weds. If not that guy will let me know. He only wants 4 bills so price is right and I’d like to stop by Norms and check out the truck in person anyhow so maybe that will come thru, we’ll see. If not I’ll just keep my eyes open for a spare....
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2019, 02:08:30 PM »
Well salvage yard around corner has one, unfortunately it’s seized tighter than an Alabama tick.....

But for $250 I’m considering buying it and trying to strip it down. Any thoughts on that?
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2019, 02:44:46 PM »
So pardon the ignorance.  Seized only means the rotating assembly won’t turn right?  That could be lots of reasons for that.   Rings, water. Crankshaft broke, you know.   $250 doesn’t seem like a bad gamble to loose if it’s unrepairable.   ? 


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2019, 03:28:15 PM »
So pardon the ignorance.  Seized only means the rotating assembly won’t turn right?  That could be lots of reasons for that.   Rings, water. Crankshaft broke, you know.   $250 doesn’t seem like a bad gamble to loose if it’s unrepairable.   ? 


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2019, 05:01:45 PM »
Offer $150


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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2019, 05:17:12 PM »
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Funny you said that, I was driving home today and thought I may just do that next week. Couple guys in there 60’s or 70’s run the place...

I am scheduled to pick the one up near Nate and Norm on Sunday for 4 bills. Supposedly it ran a couple years ago and it spins free.
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2019, 05:31:20 PM »
You would prefer a 700r to a T400 on something with that much torque?

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« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2019, 11:55:25 PM »
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2019, 02:10:04 PM »
Update:

Well guy near Norm and Nate has discovered (with my help) he is selling a 472 not a 500. So there’s that but if anyone needs a 472 caddy it can be had for a couple bills and those 472’s were no slouch either....

Have not strolled over to junk yard yet, high of mid teens yesterday and mid 20’s today is not my preference for strolling thru junk yards....

Did have another guy call me, name of Glen who lives an hour SE of me. Has 6 caddy big blocks and believes at least a couple are 500’s. Was a little hesitant to part with them but called me.... :huh: after some discussion and me offering to help him identify all 6 on what they actually were and rough year he seems to be ready to sell at least one. He agreed he does not like the cold either so we will wait until temps get back to 50’s or so.
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« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2019, 02:51:32 PM »
Let me know what your more local options provide. I also may want to mention bolt patterns on the bell-housing vs trans availability=P \


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« Reply #63 on: February 09, 2019, 06:10:09 PM »
Strike 2 or 3 maybe, 2nd junk yard across street had a 500 but motor was locked up tight...

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2019, 06:53:00 PM »
Strike 2 or 3 maybe, 2nd junk yard across street had a 500 but motor was locked up tight...



Doesn't mean the engine can't be rebuilt. If it has been in the yard a long time exposed to the elements it could be locked up just because. And it is only across the street, make a deal with the guy it could turn into a good place for parts.

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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2019, 07:14:08 PM »
Give them a Hondo and drag it home. The heads alone are worth that.
...or beat the pistons out with a sledge hammer and get to rebuilding!!
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2019, 08:56:12 PM »


Going to look at this tomorrow, running and driving with 94k on the clock. We’ll see if I can get him
down a little. Scrap yard guy will give me 5 bills for it w/o motor. May tell him 4 and I want locked up 500.....
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« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2019, 08:57:47 PM »


Going to look at this tomorrow, running and driving with 94k on the clock. We’ll see if I can get him
down a little. Scrap yard guy will give me 5 bills for it w/o motor. May tell him 4 and I want locked up 500.....
I say keep it in the car and pimp out your new ride. :)


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2019, 09:01:09 PM »
Smoothest ride I have been in.  The inside of that car makes dons burb look small lol


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2019, 09:49:48 PM »
Shawn that thing is begging for a DMax swap...
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« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2019, 09:53:43 PM »
Shawn that thing is begging for a DMax swap...

It’s big so it’s definitely a Texas ride, if I get it I’ll send it your way Charles!
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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2019, 09:46:00 AM »
Anybody ever lift that thing? Add a snorkel?  :wink:
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« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2019, 11:52:42 AM »
Square C?   I like this idea. 


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Re: Wanted 68-76 Cadillac 500 engine rebuildable core
« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2019, 12:26:25 PM »


Going to look at this tomorrow, running and driving with 94k on the clock. We’ll see if I can get him
down a little. Scrap yard guy will give me 5 bills for it w/o motor. May tell him 4 and I want locked up 500.....

if it were me and I have been down this road too many times to count.  I would never buy a motor that dose not spin!  try not to get in the "must have it now itius" unless you are trying to accumulate parts for the 500ci.  figure the crank at a min is not in the best shape, if it was a head gasket it might of wiped out a cylinder, it could of thrown a rod, dropped a valve and still take out the block.  Im guessing your trying not to turn your new shop into a salvage yard. OR maybe just water got down in the engine and it rusted the assembly, hard to tell until you get it apart.

The FDW caddys have some valuable parts notably the turbo 400 transaxle which is why the junk man supposedly offered 500bills I would imagine
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« Reply #74 on: February 10, 2019, 02:10:03 PM »
Correct, no real estate for a junk yard.

I did think about saving that turbo 400 transaxle and it was supposedly recently refreshed and new bell housing. Putting eyes on it this afternoon. Being front wheel drive it has correct oil pen for a truck build too.

I do have a couple other leads. One guy supposedly has several “500’s” in his shop but he hasn’t verified any of them to my knowledge. Then another one in Albuquerque but that’s 6 hours. I have time so there’s that too and I’m technically not in a hurry but would like this part of jigsaw squared away.
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« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2019, 05:17:07 PM »
Just sitting for 10-20 years just ad a little trans fluid to the cylinder and check in a few days. Beat the piston out and that hard ring may gouge the wall pretty bad.

I would think 20 or for just looking is fine, just wait until it warms up for working!
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« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2019, 07:11:16 PM »
I passed on the 73 eldorado today, he didn’t want to come to my terms yet. The other thing is I’m busy in shop currently and don’t need a vehicle in the way to part out. Have to go back next week as mom is having heart procedure so if he still has it when I get back maybe he’ll be more apt to take my offer....
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« Reply #77 on: February 10, 2019, 08:45:37 PM »
Hope your mom is ok after the surgery. It can take a lot out of the older person but they usually bounce back.

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« Reply #78 on: February 10, 2019, 09:58:20 PM »
Hope your mom is ok after the surgery. It can take a lot out of the older person but they usually bounce back.


Thanks Bob, at the moment I plan to be there for a few days after. However, I did purchase the insurance on the plane tickets so.....
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« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2019, 10:27:34 AM »
Shawn, dagonnit, you have me now wanting to buy up some 500 caddys.

I never looked into this great powerplant until you started all this fuss. I think I'll go out and score a few. At least you know where you can find a spare then.

Would be a great engine for a restored square body...

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« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2019, 10:29:18 AM »
I passed on the 73 eldorado today, he didn’t want to come to my terms yet. The other thing is I’m busy in shop currently and don’t need a vehicle in the way to part out. Have to go back next week as mom is having heart procedure so if he still has it when I get back maybe he’ll be more apt to take my offer....
Shawn post it up about when she is having that done so we all can pray for her pretty please

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« Reply #81 on: February 11, 2019, 10:57:30 AM »
Shawn, dagonnit, you have me now wanting to buy up some 500 caddys.

I never looked into this great powerplant until you started all this fuss. I think I'll go out and score a few. At least you know where you can find a spare then.

Would be a great engine for a restored square body...

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I concur
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« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2019, 10:58:25 AM »
I passed on the 73 eldorado today, he didn’t want to come to my terms yet. The other thing is I’m busy in shop currently and don’t need a vehicle in the way to part out. Have to go back next week as mom is having heart procedure so if he still has it when I get back maybe he’ll be more apt to take my offer....
Shawn post it up about when she is having that done so we all can pray for her pretty please

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Are the girls out of school?? Denver teacher's strike affecting you guys?

Will do and no they have school, we're still far enough of a northern suburb to not be affected......
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« Reply #83 on: February 11, 2019, 11:38:43 AM »
S- Give me the years of caddy engines I need to be looking for PP?
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« Reply #84 on: February 11, 2019, 11:52:15 AM »
S- Give me the years of caddy engines I need to be looking for PP?


68-76 preferably front wheel drive models as they have rear sump. Be very careful a lot of sellers with 472’s believe they have 500’s

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« Reply #85 on: February 11, 2019, 12:47:43 PM »
S- Give me the years of caddy engines I need to be looking for PP?


68-76 preferably front wheel drive models as they have rear sump. Be very careful a lot of sellers with 472’s believe they have 500’s

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« Reply #86 on: February 11, 2019, 03:17:58 PM »
Hmmm....maybe a replacement for the 305 in the K5. :)


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« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2019, 03:49:07 PM »
So guy with 6 of them has changed his tune. Thought of some cash in his pocket must be motivating him. He just emailed me saying he has already pulled one pan and confirmed that it is in fact a 500 and is checking another. Prior I had to offer to verify all six of them for him.... scheduled to drop down there weds and hopefully buy one or two....
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« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2019, 04:18:11 PM »
Can the jeep handle a trailer with that much weight.... :evil:
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« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2019, 04:36:25 PM »
Can the jeep handle a trailer with that much weight.... :evil:

Probably not, will use the 4Runner.....

In all reality the 5.38 gearing helps in the jk though!
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« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2019, 04:36:30 PM »
So guy with 6 of them has changed his tune. Thought of some cash in his pocket must be motivating him. He just emailed me saying he has already pulled one pan and confirmed that it is in fact a 500 and is checking another. Prior I had to offer to verify all six of them for him.... scheduled to drop down there weds and hopefully buy one or two....

 :likebutton: cash talks!

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« Reply #91 on: February 11, 2019, 05:13:20 PM »
So guy with 6 of them has changed his tune. Thought of some cash in his pocket must be motivating him. He just emailed me saying he has already pulled one pan and confirmed that it is in fact a 500 and is checking another. Prior I had to offer to verify all six of them for him.... scheduled to drop down there weds and hopefully buy one or two....

 :likebutton: cash talks!

Sure the jeep can, well his daughters can,,,,,,

I never considered that JR...... It does in fact have a hitch on it!  :tongue:
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« Reply #92 on: February 11, 2019, 05:15:45 PM »
Towing an aircraft carrier with a john boat. This is what I picture.
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« Reply #93 on: February 11, 2019, 05:56:15 PM »
Towing an aircraft carrier with a john boat. This is what I picture.

I’d agree with that little 4 cyl however, I used to pull quite a bit of stuff around with my rubicon with 4.0l
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« Reply #94 on: February 11, 2019, 11:23:34 PM »
Where did that picture of Ken and a horse trailer go? 

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« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2019, 10:33:06 AM »
Hmmm....maybe a replacement for the 305 in the K5. :)


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« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2019, 10:34:35 AM »
Can the jeep handle a trailer with that much weight.... :evil:
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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2019, 06:02:16 PM »
Purchased two today, closing thread and starting build here http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=3899.0
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« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2019, 06:32:36 PM »
Maybe some of us still want to post here? ever think about that? Huh?


...selfish if you ask me.
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