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Build Threads / Excursion Cummins Build for the Mrs.
« on: January 30, 2020, 07:00:03 PM »
New thread for the Excursion build.... still thinking of name but she will speak to us I am sure.

Warning: I have read and benefited much from some of the build threads on here that are highly detailed and documented. This unfortunately will not be one of them as it will be a pretty darn fast build as the deadline is early March for a camping trip to Moab. As mentioned in previous thread - this will either go good or poorly for marital harmony, not a whole lot of room in-between. The results will be tested on a 28 hour round trip in 5 weeks.

Goal of project is to build a family friendly towing rig to take across country to different events we attend throughout the year.

Purchased two Excursion for the project. The first is a 2000 with a 94/95 160hp P-Pump 12V already installed. This one has all the right parts but has not been treated kindly. Ran strong, probably has some pump work done as well as injectors and a HX40 turbo. Tough to know exactly as the guy I bought her from was not the one that originally built her.

 

Second one was a "clean" gasser with a 198K on the clock. Turned out to be much less "clean" than I had thought once we dug in. Mechanically sound and has clean history but had some used car lot tricks underneath to cover up a bunch of rust on the body. Had to drive a few hours to pick it up and looked it over at dusk with a flashlight, lesson learned.   :knucklehead: Bright side is it still had more in usable parts on her for the build than what I paid. Just a bummer as it made the project much tougher than swapping power train into this one.



Pulled them both in, evaluated and determined a game plan.



- Red one's body is actually in better shape, going to require rust repair but manageable with using combination of doors and parts between the two. Will have to find cab corners, have them coming from out of state.

-Full mechanical shakedown on Red.
 Going through all suspension, brakes drive line and replacing what is needed. Which is most of it - wheel bearings, rotors/pads/calipers, lines, shocks, ect ect.  :facepalm:
 Pulling motor and transmission for inspection and re -gasketing. Advancing the timing while out along with installing 60lb valve spring.
 P Pump is getting bigger delivery valves, higher governor springs, AFC Live in cab fuel control and a higher performance lift pump to hopefully push the needed fuel pressure. Couple other tweaks on pump.   







Whoever gave the previous owner green paint needs to be arrested. Just my opinion...... Will be getting painted gunmetal gray.

Doing a full interior swap over from the black one so red's interior had to go!







Have done all the suspension/brakes/hubs/wheel bearings with the exception of shocks, those haven't arrived yet. Took red to body shop to get some rust repaired along with prep for wrap. Going to try a wrap on it and see what we think. This is the color the Mrs. would like it wrapped. Also sold the current wheels and bought some matte black simple 17" pro comps to go back on.




Will be tearing apart motor and trans tomorrow. Hope to find all good news! Would be refreshing, have found some surprises to be sure!

Oh, and yes, I got upgraded tow mirrors. 

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Build Threads / New Rig for Wife - Exploring Excursion Options
« on: January 14, 2020, 08:00:30 AM »
Hi Gents,

Wanted to throw this out there and see what you all thought.

We recently purchased a used 30' ATC Aluminum Toy Hauler that is around 7500 - 8,000 lbs to use to pull around to shooting matches we attend for our company. One of the main reasons is so we can take our whole family (wife and three kiddos at the moment, we homeschool and try to have the kiddos involved in everything.) My 1992 W250 pulls it adequately with what I have done to her (I will probably do a build thread on her at some point) but my wife's 2007 Yukon XL Denali is going to struggle with it. Cannot fit the whole family in the W250 so for the matches we all go to we have to figure something else out.

What I would like to purchase is a 2000-2002 7.3 Excursion 4x4. She had a single wheel 2002 7.3 F350 before the Denali and I liked the truck, just tough with the kiddos. Finding a 7.3 Excursion nice enough to put my wife has been an endeavor. There are a couple several states away but all in the low to mid $20's.

Here is where I would like some opinions: For that money I am tempted to find a cherry example of a gas Excursion and swap over to a P-Pump 12V. I am pretty familiar with the 12V and am making good power even with my rotary pump one in my W250 with better turbo, injectors, exhaust, timing advance, propane injection ect…. The motor and mating is not necessarily my concern, I know it has been done and looks like quite a few of you guys have done Cummins swap into a variety of rigs. The concern is making all the creature comforts work to avoid marital conflict that may come from swapping her out of the Denali in the Excursion - windows, cruise, accessories, ect.

What are your thoughts on difficulty of getting all those first world amenities to work after a swap?

Picture of camper we are looking to pull with it. Was really happy to find this one, 7,000 lb axles, all aluminum with .050" aluminum siding and a 6" lift on the camper for clearance. Buddy had just bought a brand new one from them  :shocked:$$ and we used it for a few matches before I saw this one for sale a few hours away. 2004 model, never really used. Literally had one trip to Sturgis on it and then parked.


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Site Rules & Introductions / Hello from Oklahoma
« on: January 09, 2020, 06:10:48 PM »
Hi All,

Stumbled upon this forum doing research on an overdrive issue I had with my 1992 Dodge W250 (Thanks Flyin6!). Some really great stuff here and appears to be a solid community of good folks. Looking forward to engaging, learning and sharing our own build adventures.

Current build and daily is a 1992 Dodge W250 12V named Ole Blue. She is used as my daily as well as for traveling across country to precision rifle matches for our company. We are continually "upgrading" her and end goal is a healthy tow rig with overland capabilities. I can share what we have done so far for those interested.

Also working on a 1978 FJ40 to county road and trail with the kiddos. My first truck was a 1972 FJ40 so this 78' build will hopefully earn a place in my kiddos memories like mine did.

Few pics of Ole Blue and her mechanic, nice boom stick because I figure this crowd might like those too and one of the FJ40:









Thanks all!

JK

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