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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #500 on: February 25, 2019, 09:58:40 PM »
You want to make sure you spread way more than enough silicone onto the case halves. Some will get into the inside and gradually fall off and lubricate the gears!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #501 on: February 25, 2019, 10:00:27 PM »
I popped the seal out of the stubby shaft, then pushed out the needle bearing inside, replacing it with one from Randy's
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #502 on: February 25, 2019, 10:02:41 PM »
Using the correct tools because I couldn't find my framing hammer, I tapped the new seal home. The old one was a bit frayed in places, so I decided not to use it.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #503 on: February 25, 2019, 10:05:33 PM »
This is how the stubby shaft fits back together. I did not show the snap ring which retains the actual axle inside the housing
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #504 on: February 25, 2019, 10:06:34 PM »
The stubby shaft side got a new seal as well
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #505 on: February 25, 2019, 10:08:01 PM »
I slid the stubby shaft in and it snapped into place, tightened up the bolts, then swapped out the pinion yoke nut for the new one Randy's supplied
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #506 on: February 25, 2019, 10:09:15 PM »
Then it was time to bolt the newly rebuilt axle assembly into its new cradle
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #507 on: February 25, 2019, 10:10:57 PM »
Then bolt in the aft crossmember and connect it to the axle assembly.

Afterward I did some touch up paint then called it a night
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #508 on: February 25, 2019, 11:47:25 PM »
Wow, you got far! At this rate the lift will be on tomorrow.

I am no expert, but aren't you supposed to mate the halfs, set backlash and then check the pattern through the hole?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #509 on: February 26, 2019, 10:49:49 AM »
Wow, you got far! At this rate the lift will be on tomorrow.

I am no expert, but aren't you supposed to mate the halfs, set backlash and then check the pattern through the hole?

Yes and no. Technically, that is the correct method. However, on a front diff that only gets about 30% off the power 10% of the vehicle's life, close enough is acceptable. As long as the backlash is within spec, and the pinion bearing preload is too then pattern is 3rd on the list of important stuff.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #510 on: February 26, 2019, 08:13:21 PM »
The backlash thing has me concerned. It was tight, less back lash than, say my duramax rear diff when i set that up.

But I'm telling you, this axle assembly is not so easy to work on like as in a traditional axle. The pinion lower bearing presses on like normal, capturing the shims. When eyeballing the factory shim after I got the bearing pried off a bit, I guess it at .035". It was .032, which is what Yukon recommends in the booklet that came with the gears.

So after pressing all that together you have to stick the pinion back into the case. But, unlike gears I have set up in the past, this pinion would not just slide into the front bearing. I suppose you need to press it onto the shaft while it is sitting in the case half. I had preinstalled the front seal, so all I could do was to install the yoke, put a nut on it and allow the impact to hammer away for awhile. It took big do-dads of tonnage torque to seat that pinion, as in it ain't coming off again!

So, what does that leave you with? I think you gots what you gots, and I was lucky enough to fall in spec, but it really is a one and done deal. If you are going to have to remove the pinion again, you are probably screwed.

I had to beat the living dog snot out of the nose of the old pinion to get that beating to let loose. I don't know of any press setup that you could configure to press it off again to reshim. Anyway, just be cautious if thinking of undertaking this task
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #511 on: February 26, 2019, 08:15:18 PM »
So, instead of killing myself trying to press out the bushings in my old control arms, I just purchased a new set at O'Reilly's. These percision units were powder coated and looked great
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #512 on: February 26, 2019, 08:16:43 PM »
The factory bumpstop was toast, so i canned it, well, them. This drop bracket bolts in its place and will soon host a new bumpstop
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #513 on: February 26, 2019, 08:30:48 PM »
Yeah it took a while to get the set up right but I used my HF press to put in the Energy polyurethane bushings in the lowers.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #514 on: February 26, 2019, 08:44:18 PM »
Yep, with the price of some parts now it doesn't make sense to rebuild.

Main thing is your happy with the setup, showing us the step or not.

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #515 on: February 26, 2019, 08:54:31 PM »
Correct menses!

This thing cost me $176 ea. and no fuss. Don't know what the ball joint and two bushings would have cost either, but I do have a sense of how much work there would have been to replace all that, and clean and repaint the old arms...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #516 on: February 26, 2019, 09:00:19 PM »
Next I slid the new control arms into well greased pockets. I have found that greasing mounts that host rubber bushings with steel bushings deters rust and keeps the suspension more "Fluid" You will get a noticeably better ride if you do this
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #517 on: February 26, 2019, 09:01:53 PM »
Then the mail man showed up with my new Dorman front axle connecter-er watch-ah-ma-kallit

I threw that in instead of adding to the ever growing pile of parts
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #518 on: February 26, 2019, 09:07:00 PM »
The skid plates were showing next in the instructions for the lift kit, so I threw in the idler arm and mount. I scored a HD unit at Oreillys made by moog. It went in without a hitch. This one has a cool remote grease fitting which I will mount after all the suspension stuff has been installed
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #519 on: February 26, 2019, 09:09:01 PM »
Then the skid plates were installed. The hardware was really nice. 1/2" Button head stainless bolts
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #520 on: February 26, 2019, 09:12:28 PM »
Then I dropped in the new Hellwig sway bar. 1.5" in diameter, it was SOOOOO much heavier that the stocker.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #521 on: February 26, 2019, 09:13:15 PM »
I have definitely worked the parts and hardware down some...Progress

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #522 on: February 26, 2019, 09:49:44 PM »
I also installed new UCA’s today, well Jason at Kal Tire did.
444k km’s the OEM rubber bushings gave up the ghost.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #523 on: February 26, 2019, 10:13:54 PM »
I attached that loose end grease fitting in this bolt hole.   Nice and easy to get at



Of course it’s on the other side of the truck but you get the idea.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #524 on: February 26, 2019, 10:32:34 PM »
Mine is in the same place, pass side.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #525 on: February 27, 2019, 10:01:57 AM »
I attached that loose end grease fitting in this bolt hole.   Nice and easy to get at



Of course it’s on the other side of the truck but you get the idea.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #526 on: February 27, 2019, 10:09:01 PM »
I want everyone to know.  Don said  “that’s a good idea”. Second adaboy.   First was he did say he liked me. 


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #527 on: February 27, 2019, 10:14:21 PM »
You don't know how bad I wanted to edit your post Dave....but I'm working on being more mature, and less like Shawn. ;p
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #528 on: February 27, 2019, 10:18:13 PM »
You don't know how bad I wanted to edit your post Dave....but I'm working on being more mature, and less like Shawn. ;p

Thank goodness, was getting tired of ol Ken mimicking me.... :tongue:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #529 on: February 27, 2019, 10:49:09 PM »
You don't know how bad I wanted to edit your post Dave....but I'm working on being more like Hillary and less like Shawn. ;p
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« Reply #530 on: February 27, 2019, 11:39:28 PM »
You don't know how bad I wanted to edit your post Dave....but I'm working on being more like Hillary and less like Shawn. ;p
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #531 on: February 27, 2019, 11:53:59 PM »
I guess the upside is that I might end up with a fortune shortly...she can't possibly out last me!
Now, Shawn's gf AOC will probably take it from me but it's a risk I am willing to take.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #532 on: February 28, 2019, 12:28:01 AM »
AOC/horse face?   I think it’s my favorite part of the day listening to Dailey wire replay all of the garbage she spews from that sh$& filled brain. 




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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #533 on: February 28, 2019, 08:07:17 AM »
Hey...HEY...

This be a build thread

I'm gonna edit the lot of yous if you continue!  :police: :police:
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #534 on: February 28, 2019, 08:10:12 AM »
Waitin' on parts, but proceedin'

Ordered a Pelican 70 qt cooler last noggin

I figure I'll start to accumulate things I will be packing along to start to place things so that I get an idea of how to configure, what size roof rack (Gigantic) and so forth.

Back to buildin'
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #535 on: February 28, 2019, 10:35:18 AM »
AOC/horse face?   I think it’s my favorite part of the day listening to Dailey wire replay all of the garbage she spews from that sh$& filled brain. 




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I think you guys need to lighten up a bit on AOC, I mean the horse face is probably a result of parents beating her daily due to the dumb things coming out of her mouth all the time....
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #536 on: February 28, 2019, 10:48:20 AM »
Hey, Ken and Shawn could double date!

Don, have you looked at the new Lifetime 55qt cooler? Right up there with the big guys and I like the hose outlet, just $97 at wally.
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2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #537 on: February 28, 2019, 01:18:24 PM »
They just released a larger 77. Can’t wait to add it to my truck bed.   My 55 was awesome first year.  No doubt it will make it further.


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« Reply #538 on: February 28, 2019, 01:21:41 PM »
In fact buy one when you are here in Utah. They make them in Layton Utah. 


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« Reply #539 on: February 28, 2019, 01:49:10 PM »
In fact buy one when you are here in Utah. They make them in Layton Utah. 


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Who sells them? Is that a Walmart product?

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #540 on: February 28, 2019, 01:51:37 PM »
No it is from Lifetime, carried by many stores and US MADE!

I like the 28, haven't seen that yet!!!! Lists for $99, 30 less than the 55. Figure $70 at wally but you can order on site now for $99.
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« Reply #541 on: February 28, 2019, 04:14:01 PM »
They have outlet stores here that sell for less. Factory blemish kinda deal.


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« Reply #542 on: February 28, 2019, 05:04:45 PM »
In fact buy one when you are here in Utah. They make them in Layton Utah. 


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Uh, so what's he going to use between the Tuck and your place?
Have some friends that have been using the Rtic coolers. They work as well as Yetis from our comparison testing. Obviously nothing wrong with Pelican, but like Yeti, way overpriced now that everyone has the technology (rotomolding).
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« Reply #543 on: February 28, 2019, 05:29:02 PM »
Even igloo coolers have rotomolded coolers now


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« Reply #544 on: February 28, 2019, 05:35:52 PM »
In fact buy one when you are here in Utah. They make them in Layton Utah. 


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Uh, so what's he going to use between the Tuck and your place?
Have some friends that have been using the Rtic coolers. They work as well as Yetis from our comparison testing. Obviously nothing wrong with Pelican, but like Yeti, way overpriced now that everyone has the technology (rotomolding).
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #545 on: February 28, 2019, 06:14:27 PM »
I had the igloo's, 2 of them. OK but to much stuff hung out. Sold now.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #546 on: February 28, 2019, 09:38:16 PM »
You guys mind if I borrow my thread for just a bit?

Thanks!

So the bump stop I ordered from SUmmit like yesterday, showed up today and I bolted them up. Energy Suspension pieces, but for some reason they are not agreeing with this aftermarket lift kit
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #547 on: February 28, 2019, 09:40:04 PM »
It was in the way when I installed the torsion bar extension bracket designed to tuck the torsion bars up like stock
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« Reply #548 on: February 28, 2019, 09:40:52 PM »
Looks like it is on backwards, wrong side.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #549 on: February 28, 2019, 09:42:43 PM »
I ordered a Bilstein steering damper with the energy suspension stuff. So I threw some clear enamel onto the body of the thing, allowed it to dry and bolted that up. The Burb never had a stabilizer before, so this is another improvement. It bolted right up to all the factory brackets
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