Author Topic: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4 (Read 108322 times)

stlaser · « **Reply #800 on:** January 03, 2021, 05:38:37 PM »

Correct, axle is due in this week and Tate already sent parts for it. Plan is to get it stripped and to blaster this week then build next week most likely.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #801 on:** January 03, 2021, 09:50:26 PM »

Your taking the roof rack off! Adding a full soft top convertible roof!?!?yes!

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stlaser · « **Reply #802 on:** January 03, 2021, 10:01:24 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 03, 2021, 09:50:26 PM

Your taking the roof rack off! Adding a full soft top convertible roof!?!?yes!

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As long as it’s not called the tac topper II

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #803 on:** January 03, 2021, 10:07:43 PM »

I just want a retractable rag top so you can have the wind in your hair feeling. No gun mounts or anything

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #804 on:** January 03, 2021, 10:10:09 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 03, 2021, 10:07:43 PM

I just want a retractable rag top so you can have the wind in your hair feeling. No gun mounts or anything

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OK, no gun mounts

rpar86 · « **Reply #805 on:** January 03, 2021, 11:13:15 PM »

Why not a subframe/roof structure that the rag top can go over and you can fold back and then attach a gun to the frame? Best of both worlds ;)

*exits stage left*

JR · « **Reply #806 on:** January 04, 2021, 12:01:08 AM »

Helicopter transformer?

wyorunner · « **Reply #807 on:** January 04, 2021, 01:59:31 AM »

Quote from: Flyin6 on January 03, 2021, 10:10:09 PM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 03, 2021, 10:07:43 PM
I just want a retractable rag top so you can have the wind in your hair feeling. No gun mounts or anything

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OK, no gun mounts

Well there goes calling it the SOF top.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #808 on:** January 04, 2021, 08:41:56 AM »

This thread is a disaster...

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #809 on:** January 04, 2021, 09:31:14 AM »

I would call it a spirited conversation of fun ideas and an expansion of artistic design for your vehicle is all, not a disaster

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #810 on:** January 04, 2021, 11:06:10 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 04, 2021, 09:31:14 AM

I would call it a spirited conversation of fun ideas and an expansion of artistic design for your vehicle is all, not a disaster

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That's a mouthful...and probably correct.

I pulled the trigger and purchased the HP Tuners setup. I will still visit Nick to dyno, but with the wealth of information and established tunes for everything including additions of a coffee can exhaust tip and a cat on the dash! I will have the ability to make small incremental changes to sneak up on the perfect tune for this truck. In time, I'll be able to tune all of your trucks as well.

Flyin6 · « **Reply #811 on:** January 04, 2021, 11:17:20 AM »

I think I'll start part 5 of this build with the start of the re-gear task.

Looking down the road I have several things in the works

Obviously we have the change to 4.56 and the installation of a more "Sane" 14 bolt sourced from GLO. That gets me in the right RPM range to cruise at 75, and still have a lot of grunt to pull the camper, and I'll lose a bunch of weight.

Next, I'll dump the roof top tent and awning to save weight and move the awnings over to the camper to make that into a base camp. That pulls even more weight off the burb.

In the spirit of weight savings I'll remove a lot of unnecessary stuff for daily driving, adding it back for planned trips as necessary with the goal of taking off weight and conversely increasing performance and drivability.

I am actively locally hunting an LQ-9 or L76, 6.0 aluminum block engine. I plan to stroke that from somewhere from 408"-427" and build a solid boost friendly block. I think I'll add square port ported heads or possibly some Trick-Flow ones because of the thicker deck. That will get studs, a bigger cam and that should do it for the basis of 700 ish ft./lbs. at the wheel which is my goal. That engine will additionally lose 110 lbs from the front end of my pretty heavy Suburban.

I'll tune and adjust along the way to get me closer all the time to what I believe is the perfect overlander.

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #812 on:** January 04, 2021, 11:19:51 AM »

Is this the makings of the third motor going into this?

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Flyin6 · « **Reply #813 on:** January 04, 2021, 11:28:18 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 04, 2021, 11:19:51 AM

Is this the makings of the third motor going into this?

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technically, the second
Original motor was pulled to make it easier to freshen up/clean/paint.

I can see the current motor finding a home in the pre-ranger's truck

JR · « **Reply #814 on:** January 04, 2021, 01:47:56 PM »

I would like to see how HP works. I was all up on EFI for a long time but it has been leaving me short.

I think a Durasub would have been cheaper in the long run,,,,,,,,,

stlaser · « **Reply #815 on:** January 06, 2021, 05:49:45 PM »

I’ll just leave these right here

Headed to blaster in morning

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JR · « **Reply #816 on:** January 06, 2021, 06:57:00 PM »

They sure munched those plates!

stlaser · « **Reply #817 on:** January 06, 2021, 07:08:00 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 06, 2021, 06:57:00 PM

They sure munched those plates!

I typically do not run them, but w/o rotors what do you expect with a 16ga circle of sheet metal holding up a 400# axle?

JR · « **Reply #818 on:** January 06, 2021, 07:15:54 PM »

Yeah, I remember the thread. Mine are in great shape and came with rotors and calipers. Missing 1 caliper bolt that seems odd. Just got a scarfing tip to clean em up!

dave945 · « **Reply #819 on:** January 06, 2021, 07:31:29 PM »

I notice you’re missing the drums and shoes, I’ll send you the ones off mine. I need to change out to disc brakes anyways. I don’t mind helping Don out that way.

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stlaser · « **Reply #820 on:** January 06, 2021, 09:11:50 PM »

Quote from: dave945 on January 06, 2021, 07:31:29 PM

I notice you’re missing the drums and shoes, I’ll send you the ones off mine. I need to change out to disc brakes anyways. I don’t mind helping Don out that way.

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Negative, this is a disc brake 14 bolt. What you see currently are the pads that slip inside the rotors for the e brake mechanism. Don has a new fancy set of rotors and calipers on the 80 which he wanted to try and make work. So we chose to send axle to him minus the calipers snd rotors. If he can’t get his setup to work he can always then spend money to buy oem units.

stlaser · « **Reply #821 on:** January 16, 2021, 10:53:45 AM »

So started off the morning working on Dons soon to be new axle. The housing is ready for pickup at blaster weather permitting Monday. So started to assemble what I can ahead of time.

Tate of Randy’s Ring & Pinion fame set us up with some new goodies. The carrier is a Yukon Dura Grip to alleviate any potential mulch bed incidents. Added a set of 4.56 gears to drop the rpms into range and finished my coffee with some 120 ft lbs of arm curls.

All is well in the world ‘er at least my shop for now.....

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dave945 · « **Reply #822 on:** January 16, 2021, 11:11:08 AM »

Oh, I thought Don had decided to go another way on his axle upgrade on the suburban when I saw this just south of his interstate exit this morning. I thought it was out for delivery.

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Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #823 on:** January 16, 2021, 11:24:05 AM »

Did you use blue or red loctite. Asking for a friend.

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stlaser · « **Reply #824 on:** January 16, 2021, 11:47:28 AM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 16, 2021, 11:24:05 AM

Did you use blue or red loctite. Asking for a friend.

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The stuff in that red bottle in the picture, if you’re color blind my apologies. If not we’ll chalk it up to Dave question of the day......

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #825 on:** January 16, 2021, 05:46:50 PM »

Quote from: stlaser on January 16, 2021, 11:47:28 AM

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 16, 2021, 11:24:05 AM
Did you use blue or red loctite. Asking for a friend.

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The stuff in that red bottle in the picture, if you’re color blind my apologies. If not we’ll chalk it up to Dave question of the day......

Blue locktite and red loctite all come in a red bottle.

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rpar86 · « **Reply #826 on:** January 16, 2021, 08:54:10 PM »

Believe it says Threadlocker Red.

stlaser · « **Reply #827 on:** January 16, 2021, 09:23:41 PM »

Dave, it’s red. Blue comes in blue bottle at my parts store. I’m not sure how they do it on Amazon.

JR · « **Reply #828 on:** January 17, 2021, 04:01:48 PM »

There are diff reds too.

You know the new axles pictured are trailer axles? I think the one up top might be some better.

stlaser · « **Reply #829 on:** January 17, 2021, 04:10:44 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 17, 2021, 04:01:48 PM

There are diff reds too.

You know the new axles pictured are trailer axles? I think the one up top might be some better.

Congratulations you knuckleheads have turned something simple as threadlocker into its own DOT moment.

Worth noting the cab bolts on my Ford which took heat to remove, the locker on the threads was blue colored. So what does color have to do with it I’m not really sure. Thanks for sucking me into this rabbit hole.......

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #830 on:** January 17, 2021, 04:42:02 PM »

Your as bad as black hole as any of us

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dave945 · « **Reply #831 on:** January 17, 2021, 04:49:13 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 17, 2021, 04:01:48 PM

There are diff reds too.

You know the new axles pictured are trailer axles? I think the one up top might be some better.

I just said Don might have decided to go in a different direction with the axle, I didn’t say it was a good/smart one.

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stlaser · « **Reply #832 on:** January 17, 2021, 05:10:37 PM »

Quote from: Bigdave_185 on January 17, 2021, 04:42:02 PM

Your as bad as black hole as any of us

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I’m not sure what that means but Ken asked his GF and she’s pretty sure it’s wacist

oklawall · « **Reply #833 on:** January 17, 2021, 06:02:44 PM »

is this the Suburban build thread or which Loctite thread? I'm so confused

LOL

Bigdave_185 · « **Reply #834 on:** January 17, 2021, 07:16:29 PM »

Waistist or ...

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stlaser · « **Reply #835 on:** January 18, 2021, 03:06:26 PM »

Picked up the freshly blasted axle prior to the snow storm blowing in today.

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #836 on:** January 18, 2021, 06:24:38 PM »

Sweet. Need to find a place like that near me

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KensAuto · « **Reply #837 on:** January 18, 2021, 07:54:13 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 18, 2021, 06:24:38 PM

Sweet. Need to find a place like that near me

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You have a compressor. :Wink

Flyin6 · « **Reply #838 on:** January 18, 2021, 08:59:20 PM »

Looks like a great start!

JR · « **Reply #839 on:** January 18, 2021, 11:12:37 PM »

Quote from: KensAuto on January 18, 2021, 07:54:13 PM

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 18, 2021, 06:24:38 PM
Sweet. Need to find a place like that near me

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You have a compressor. :Wink

You beat me to it Ken, he has everything else!!

stlaser · « **Reply #840 on:** January 18, 2021, 11:14:40 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 18, 2021, 11:12:37 PM

Quote from: KensAuto on January 18, 2021, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 18, 2021, 06:24:38 PM
Sweet. Need to find a place like that near me

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You have a compressor. :Wink

You beat me to it Ken, he has everything else!!

stlaser · « **Reply #841 on:** January 19, 2021, 04:21:57 PM »

Yuck, time for tear down and clean

Pretty sure that code says Ken loves H ^^^^^^^ or did Ken trade H in for a K this go around?

Pulling shafts and let wheel bearings drain

Tad cleaner

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TexasRedNeck · « **Reply #842 on:** January 19, 2021, 04:33:07 PM »

Better get all thAt grizzly grease out

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JR · « **Reply #843 on:** January 19, 2021, 05:40:45 PM »

I like the stand. I just a have a wooden stand now and a nice one I can put on my engine stand, but it has a LS hanging on it now.

stlaser · « **Reply #844 on:** January 19, 2021, 06:40:47 PM »

Quote from: TexasRedNeck on January 19, 2021, 04:33:07 PM

Better get all thAt grizzly grease out

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stlaser · « **Reply #845 on:** January 19, 2021, 06:42:17 PM »

Quote from: JR on January 19, 2021, 05:40:45 PM

I like the stand. I just a have a wooden stand now and a nice one I can put on my engine stand, but it has a LS hanging on it now.

It’s ok, great for cleaning housings. I personally like the pipe stands for building them but normally too lazy to move them off the cart to use the stands. My engine stand still has a Cummins attached

JR · « **Reply #846 on:** January 19, 2021, 06:53:13 PM »

I got a worm gearbox and plan on using a 2500HD hub to mount up my cummins. My stand is 3x3 square I built, but it needs a pan.

stlaser · « **Reply #847 on:** January 20, 2021, 10:23:55 AM »

Prepping the new components with Timken bearings and tear down of the drop out pinion support. Easiest way to remove that yoke is in the press. I’ve broke 2 jaw pullers in the past trying to get a seized up yoke off of these.

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dave945 · « **Reply #848 on:** January 20, 2021, 10:54:06 AM »

I thought maybe you bought the wrong size and we’re trying to make it shorter. :P

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stlaser · « **Reply #849 on:** January 21, 2021, 08:44:40 PM »

So ran into a snag and learning ensued. These newer axles have a wear seal attached to bottom of yoke. It’s supposed to be there and it lasts forever I recon because these seals don’t come in a master install kit! Many times the axles I get in are basket cases and or have been messed with. Apparently this one had been messed with and when I slipped the pinion seal onto the yoke it was as loose as a working girl in the red light district on dollar night.

After some reading and trying to find correct seal i learnt what I was missing. Sent an email off to Tate and he provided the parts overnight to get me squared away.

Pinion seal on top and wear seal on the bottom. Wear seal is similar to a Speedi sleeve or seal extension if you’re familiar. Older axles do not use these. Engineers are smarter today and decided we need an extra $25 part in each axle because what they had for generations prior wasn’t good enough. Rant off.....

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