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VEHICLES, CAMPERS, and BOATS => Build Threads => Topic started by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2015, 03:18:09 PM

Title: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
so, heres the kaiser we are currently in the process of repowering..
hope to have it drivable by spring, but who knows when it'll actually be done. hahah

running driving all original '67 kaiser and an entire spare frame and axles
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12291157_10154911707063084_3860774961572953437_o.jpg)

and her soon to be transplanted heart.. in the form she showed up to the house

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12308598_10154911708513084_4806377336909373640_n.jpg?oh=37a7296296105eff08f05eab50ee75dc&oe=572056A8)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12308745_10154911709298084_3993992786472573988_n.jpg?oh=3e043c439d0dbe59290bbaae41613f4f&oe=571AFE08)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12345392_10154911708618084_4283452792200966064_n.jpg?oh=31d4775b470e758f11f3f37b7025575f&oe=571BC81B)

along with the 47RH i picked up on Long Island while i was in the city doing a job..

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/t31.0-8/12303935_10154911707933084_8298324906200873571_o.jpg)

shackle reverse mid-process
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/t31.0-8/12291891_10154911706743084_5828359831737608094_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/12291127_10154911731248084_1876700961590151638_o.jpg)

front spring hangers welded under the frame..
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12304480_10154911708288084_8804097293300543156_o.jpg)

and sleeves welded in the frame
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/12339290_10154911707568084_2800630694064270435_o.jpg)

rear spring hanger plates
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/12339665_10154911709493084_5848372136986410379_o.jpg)

and spring hangers mocked up
rear spring hangers from a K3500 van with CUCV springs and axles (front kingpin dana 60 and FF 14 bolt rear with detroit and 4.56s) no pics of them right now..
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12291307_10154911706923084_4614208276283751466_o.jpg)


alittle purple power never hurt no one..
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12241767_10154911708728084_7995060109899305765_n.jpg?oh=e8e9c4d64dd7ca068549bfce85b9124e&oe=56D3E59D)

when i washed the engine.. it was already painted like this!
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12299251_10154911708148084_3837745613392672246_n.jpg?oh=05f72a5c63631136c4c4f2018a6a8e50&oe=5715CBA6)
just kidding.. it was filty. and those valve covers didn't stand a chance against aircraft paint remover..

my take on the supply and return lines for the heater core.. i thought it was kinda cool looking.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12304460_10154911707813084_59767075776462598_o.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
trans is painted cummins beige as well. still in search of a 23 spline NP 205 with adapter and coupler.

the bodywork has all been dustless blasted and primed. don't know how i ended up with no pictures from that process..

body is immaculate minus the floor of the cab. hunting club before previous owner had carpet in the cab, so its rusted pretty bad. fortunately a FSJ either cherokee or wagoneer is the same floor pan, just a tad longer than the kaiser. so picking up a solid 76 wagoneer shell for the floor and roof (may make a hard bikini top for it) next week hopefully
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on December 11, 2015, 03:29:32 PM
You didn't transpose that right, 23 spline not 32 because i have 1350 and 1410 32 spline output yokes.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
You didn't transpose that right, 23 spline not 32 because i have 1350 and 1410 32 spline output yokes.

sorry.. should have been more specific. 23 spline input shaft to the t case. they are male to male, and the trans has a 23 spline output with a female to female spline coupler between the two male shafts
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on December 11, 2015, 03:40:40 PM
You're brand new here, what, 1 day old and already have two project trucks going!

WHOA

I can just imagine what your contributions will look like in a year.

Guess I had better go buy a bigger web site!

Welcome to the fray!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on December 11, 2015, 03:44:48 PM
You didn't transpose that right, 23 spline not 32 because i have 1350 and 1410 32 spline output yokes.

sorry.. should have been more specific. 23 spline input shaft to the t case. they are male to male, and the trans has a 23 spline output with a female to female spline coupler between the two male shafts

Dang, thought I could help. Good lookin setup there, I'm definitely a fan of the Kaiser, (trucks that is).
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on December 11, 2015, 03:48:49 PM
I'm banning myself- I deleted your sign-up yesterday cause your IP address was from Africa, Carribien and/or Middle East............sorry........glad you resigned-up!  Going to my corner now and putting on my pointy cap!  :(
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on December 11, 2015, 03:51:10 PM
Wow, self banning now!

What's next?

Hari-Kari?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2015, 04:02:59 PM
You're brand new here, what, 1 day old and already have two project trucks going!

WHOA

I can just imagine what your contributions will look like in a year.

Guess I had better go buy a bigger web site!

Welcome to the fray!

they've been going on for a while (the dodge has at least, kaiser has just gotten under way. hahah)

I'm banning myself- I deleted your sign-up yesterday cause your IP address was from Africa, Carribien and/or Middle East............sorry........glad you resigned-up!  Going to my corner now and putting on my pointy cap!  :(

no worries, ida blocked me as well coming in from africa/middle east (too soon..?) haha just glad i was granted asylum

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on December 11, 2015, 04:18:03 PM
Many who have done this use a OEM Dodge 4x4 engine mount cross-member. It fits very well....keep in mind that picture is with a spring over.

(http://i.imgur.com/3MMLuev.jpg)

Wish we were closer, I probably have a half dozen of those transfer cases in stock somewhere in the barn LoL

Looks like a fun project to watch...



 




Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on December 11, 2015, 04:24:55 PM
Many who have done this use a OEM Dodge 4x4 engine mount cross-member. It fits very well....keep in mind that picture is with a spring over.

(http://i.imgur.com/3MMLuev.jpg)

Wish we were closer, I probably have a half dozen of those transfer cases in stock somewhere in the barn LoL

Looks like a fun project to watch...



 





That barn of yours is more like a museum!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2015, 04:29:52 PM
Many who have done this use a OEM Dodge 4x4 engine mount cross-member. It fits very well....keep in mind that picture is with a spring over.

(http://i.imgur.com/3MMLuev.jpg)

Wish we were closer, I probably have a half dozen of those transfer cases in stock somewhere in the barn LoL

Looks like a fun project to watch...

so you're tellin me that that is an unmodified 4x4 dodge crossmember? nothing else needed, apart from 1st gen motor mounts?

we are also doing a SOA as well, but not quite as high on the lift.

and you have a couple of those cases..?! if you're not sky high on prices, I've looked up shipping on them and they're about $150.. if you have the complete set (all 3 pieces) id be happy to liberate one from you..  ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on December 11, 2015, 04:30:08 PM
We were going to clean the barn out.... but after looking at the project we decided maybe we will add on a 20x30' section instead. That seems simpler....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on December 11, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
Well tell you what.... give me a call, so happens I am possibly shipping a Dana 60 yr way anyway.

Check you pvt messages for my #
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 14, 2015, 08:19:15 AM
this is what I've come up with, design wise, if the late 80s dodge 4x4 doesn't work out. and/or I'm unable to locate some 1st gen cummins motor mounts..
we currently have 2nd gen mounts on the engine..

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/12339648_10154935538548084_3689596494676543427_o.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on December 16, 2015, 09:07:02 PM
That design type keeps showing up. I guess the early mounts are the way to go for most.

Never seen with a slot for drop in though, hmmm.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on December 16, 2015, 09:07:41 PM
We were going to clean the barn out.... but after looking at the project we decided maybe we will add on a 20x30' section instead. That seems simpler....

Sure, then you can buy more stuff!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 16, 2015, 09:57:23 PM
That design type keeps showing up. I guess the early mounts are the way to go for most.

Never seen with a slot for drop in though, hmmm.

it really depends on when/what I find. I currently have 2nd gen mounts. but I think is possible to find 1st gens easy. and I think the slots are like that on 2nd gen frame mounts.. unless I looked at something wrong.

I guess ill see what income up with when I get back home later this week. frame has been powder coated. picking it up either tomorrow or Friday. will have some pics up soon
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on December 16, 2015, 11:45:58 PM
I have a set of both, but sure Norm has enough for us all.

I was told by a fabricator they hold and dampen better. (Rob Bonny)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 17, 2015, 08:46:49 AM
the 1st gens hold up/dampen better..? if that's the case.. 'Norm..?!'
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 04, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
small update
i doubt the video works. but we got it running (again) this time after adjusting the pump timing to 15.5* and getting a bolt put in the top of the P Pump
(https://www.facebook.com/seth.bruton.969/videos/10155003560778084/)

mocked up some motor mounts. going to grind off just a small portion of the powder coating and weld those suckers in place. figured it'd be just as easy to do that instead of making mounting plates and through bolting everything..

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12509427_10155003656228084_4953222630927813305_n.jpg?oh=9c7f2788b906389ecb99c648318e8fc9&oe=5705E482)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12508898_10155003656223084_2009770197381836506_n.jpg?oh=769f4d075e07ac532fc6c4d897a52562&oe=56FEA5EF)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12400460_10155003656233084_5929368641430867827_n.jpg?oh=cb220ed89e4a018de26577fa19edbbed&oe=574568B6)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11205491_10155003656243084_3061071611012412977_n.jpg?oh=58778e2467122a7e6dcd3d430122686f&oe=56FBF42F)

cut them out of 3/8" plate, which i think should be just fine. hope to have them drilled and welded up in the next day or two..

man.. she fits. but just barely!

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/10406661_10155003530113084_68160752170672599_n.jpg?oh=42d1b1e8fd63fad9d94c4b809f781099&oe=5711219E)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/6426_10155003530098084_4477156705609406150_n.jpg?oh=e7816defaaa34c982640145c2734a235&oe=56FD25E7)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12474068_10155003530103084_4340197399309872142_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12509433_10155003530108084_4834560636808590222_n.jpg?oh=be202d1a7f9270449f877689bdc6d291&oe=57082419)

biggest hurdle I've seen now that the front has been mocked up is how to get water from the radiator to the water pump. the AC compressor is directly in the way. best thing i can think of so far without actually measuring is to have the outlet from the radiator go sideways through the radiator core support and route it around the air compressor, OR straight down and go under the air compressor..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on January 04, 2016, 06:11:52 PM
Yikes, that is a tight fit!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 04, 2016, 06:28:56 PM
yea.. she's snug. thats for sure. hahah. we still have to drop the back of the engine down just a bit, so that should give us some more clearance between the trans and trans tunnel. but front to back, i think its going to be just fine. its almost as if it was made for it.. minus the fact that we will have to use electric pusher fans instead of a mechanical puller. since my dad doesn't want a huge jacked up kaiser, we are trying to keep it as low as possible, which mean pushing the engine up in the bay as far as possible to clear the dana 60 and springs and crossover steering. (next hurdle)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on January 04, 2016, 07:22:01 PM
That does look a bit snug. Makes me wonder how I will shoehorn a 6bt into my M37...  time will tell.

Given that frame design, I see no issues with the 2nd gen mounts. Other than the possibility of frame spread under the weight.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 04, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
the 2nd gen mounts are exactly 4" wide, so i may end up doing a cross frame tie in from one to the other, under the oil pan. making them bolt up to remove if needed access to the oilman. and I've seen 2-3 other builds of kaisers and old dodge crew cabs that have the same mount design and no cross frame tie in. i hope I'm not speaking too soon, but it seems as if it'll be more than enough. hahah

I'm sure you'll figure out a way for that 6bt in an M37.. and if not you can always send that bad boy east. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Dmaxlovr on January 04, 2016, 09:35:42 PM
Be cool to see that old Gladiator run again! Good luck with the CPR...Awesome project. :)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on January 05, 2016, 07:32:57 AM
Given your Father's plans for the truck, I am sure you could get away with no frame tie in between the mounts. That OEM Kaiser frame isn't any more prone to noodle like behavior than a OEM Dodge frame that's for sure.

Did you check to make sure you have room for your brake booster or hydro-vac or whatever you intend to run?

I'd think steering should be simple.... just use a J series pickup power box and build your crossover steering. I seem to remember that's a bolt in regarding the box.

The J series/wago stuff in latter models had a different core support. It allowed a wider radiator and I "think" it actually positioned it further forward.... might be worth researching this... The M715 Zone web site should be a good place to check this out.


Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 06, 2016, 09:13:35 PM
its getting closer..

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/t31.0-8/12496388_10155008375408084_733226809245704190_o.jpg)

engine is "in its place" in the frame relative to the body and core support, motor mounts are cut out and almost completely cleaned up from the plasma. frame needs to be cleaned up and mounts welded on. getting the axles media blasted tmrw, so they should be painted and mounted by the weekend, maybe the first of the week. shooting for it to being a rolling chassis by next week
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2016, 10:18:38 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on January 06, 2016, 10:19:00 PM
No, I REALLY like it!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on January 07, 2016, 12:11:21 AM
Wish that picture was a little clearer but great work.

I had my 1st and 2nd mounts reversed. 1st are flat, 2nd are round.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 07, 2016, 01:42:50 AM
I'm hoping to get some decent ones of the engine mounts all welded up and the axles once they get cleaned and painted. once it's able to be rolled around, I'm going to push/pull it outside for some rolling chassi glamor shots. hahah. then, it's in to replacing the floor pans in the cab, undercoating and heat insulating ('boom mat' potentially). that's really all the body work that is needed on this truck. to be a '67, it's astonishingly straight and rust free.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 07, 2016, 06:24:09 PM
little glass blasting fun..

Dana 60
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12471892_10155010319868084_3524355239688379528_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/12493630_10155010319873084_8597429555347358452_o.jpg)
 nice and fresh
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/t31.0-8/12485963_10155010319848084_8548084778755439439_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/886260_10155010319853084_8542224436812146245_o.jpg)

corporate 14 bolt
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/t31.0-8/12489351_10155010320083084_8355108725844994076_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10678426_10155010319858084_3259159303019822131_n.jpg?oh=9eea4c01a9298d98fd3c547bd52600f7&oe=570D5AC7)

motor mounts mocked up..
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/t31.0-8/12465854_10155010320073084_7263484214645310892_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/t31.0-8/12418793_10155010320078084_5969869446470670676_o.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on January 07, 2016, 08:36:28 PM
Now that is some hose there. Can you breath?? Can't be good for the lungs right on that.

Mounts look good. Will you weld or bolt them on?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 07, 2016, 08:42:19 PM
that's not me. hahah. dude worked for 25-30 years at Goodyear and smokes like a freight train. I think the glass may be helping his health lol. and the mounts will be welded on. just cleaning off just enough powder coating to weld up, clean up nicely, prime and paint the crap out of it with gloss black to match the coating.

guess I figured they would be easier and possibly stronger welded on and than bolted on.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on January 08, 2016, 11:24:11 AM
I was just going to give you crap about media blasting w/ no gloves or respirator. Meh, mesothelioma is nothin'! Check out the awesome glass beads I injected under my skin!

Good lookin' axles there, what's the vintage on the corp 14?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 08, 2016, 08:02:57 PM
vintage..? its a complete set of axles from an '86 CUCV truck with the 6.2 detroit and TH400 tranny.

4.56 gears. has a detroit locker in it as well.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 11, 2016, 08:10:50 PM
spring hangers are painted and bolted in place. axles, springs and spring perches are all painted. (rear perches are not to be welded in place until transfer case and drive shafts are in place to set angles). mounts will be tacked in place tmrw, engine removed and fully welded. along with (hopefully) axles put under the truck. all that's really left to fab is the transmission support and t case cross member..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 12, 2016, 07:22:25 PM
drivers side engine mount
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12491752_10155021827683084_4883921135500656295_o.jpg)

passenger side engine mount
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/12491951_10155021827688084_8634326191530278066_o.jpg)

front position rear spring hanger (passenger side)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xal1/v/t1.0-9/12376367_10155021827703084_7877754992588424088_n.jpg?oh=aae29274841e007a9302d18ca59e69b5&oe=57395C5E)

rear position rear spring hanger (passenger side)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12507370_10155021827693084_8942371940699714738_n.jpg?oh=b720fc0816172590f7d7c45fc38080f1&oe=570B8006)

oil pan clearance (way more than i expected)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12552689_10155021827873084_5098153594157336083_n.jpg?oh=6ccf0155f10ff24173172cbc62dc3891&oe=5742BF0E)

spring deflection (factory CUCV springs.. anyone know the rating on these??)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10299550_10155021827888084_7956346158563238526_n.jpg?oh=0777826945bd5a432a2706ab2fa48de1&oe=57108A33)

overall shot of today
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12489330_10155021827698084_2989261325101034919_o.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on January 13, 2016, 08:03:50 AM
Those OEM springs should be 1400lbs capacity.

It looks good so far, keep up the good work.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 13, 2016, 08:25:35 AM
think those springs will work for this build..? or should i try and track down a set of 1st gen cummins springs? (both are 48" bolt to bolt)

just one mechanical piece short of having the drive train.. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 14, 2016, 07:35:02 PM
1975 wagoneer body. nearly rust free. identical floorpan and firewall as the kaiser. best i can figure is the military took a J20 pickup truck and 'modified' it to be an M715, so the kaiser-specific stuff will get transported over to the almost flawless wagoneer tub (basically the fold down windshield and cab back with soft top mounts)

pressure washed and degreased the whole thing

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12474076_10155027525163084_1612974708373441809_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12552565_10155027525158084_1633273171768934166_n.jpg?oh=ff89781c7ace55c6a16ca1726c8596a9&oe=56FDDDAF)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12514030_10155027525148084_6744168188305991557_o.jpg)

rockers are rock solid inside and out. underside still had undercoating on it.
really the worst part of the whole thing.. it all only needs a wire wheel and lizard skin/truck bed liner and rust preventer.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/12492039_10155027525153084_2041849332761388266_o.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Nate on January 14, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
I would venture to guess that the civilian market took the military product and modified it to their needs.....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on January 14, 2016, 10:19:07 PM
To bad you cutting that old thing up, they are getting rare too.

Good, you got the parts you need,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 15, 2016, 07:24:33 AM
I would venture to guess that the civilian market took the military product and modified it to their needs.....

i would have said the sam thing, except there are only 'removal of' pieces from jeep and not 'additions to'. the a pillar has been whacked off the civilian models to add the flat dash replacement, hinges and flat windshield. and where the fender wells bolt in the jeep there is a vertical 1" thick piece of folded body that protrudes from the firewall with 2 nutserts, they have been crudely bent over and caulked to allow for the larger wheel well to bolt directly to the firewall. they are slight differences, but it really looks like a J20 with a hacked windshield and bent body folds on the firewire to mash those 37s in there. hahah

and the more we looked at it the more we thought 'man.. too bad we aren't building a waggy, this one would be perfect'
the jeep guy we get lots of parts from bought it from a military guy who had the entire drive train rebuilt, POR15 frame, ARB lockers front and rear in the 44s, everything. and decided to take it apart to fix the body. got in over his head, decided to move, and sold it..

i think the plan of attack is to cut the back cab portion and the flat dash/windshield hinges off the M715, but the waggy floor 1-2" longer in the rear than the kaiser, fold up 90* to help with some rust repair that will be cut out of the vertical back portion of the cab, slip it over the door jambs and be on our merry way..

more posts to come soon I'm hoping..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 01, 2016, 08:21:58 PM
alittle update.

got the wagoneer body cut up, M715 specific pieces off (dash and rear cab) mocked up and welded on

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and all primed up

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mocking up the intercooler

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don't think it looks too bad. my dad is getting the radiator built this week (hopefully) which will make it able to have the core support put on, plumbed and let us run the engine with the correct air and water until it reaches operating temps to check for leaks and such.

4" lift springs to give me enough arch to clear the crossover steering

still waiting on Norm (ha hemm) for the last piece of drivetrain. hahah. build trans support and tcase brace to be able to set driveline angles (which i believe are 3* opposing..?) and weld up rear spring perches. then, body back on i suppose and starting what little wiring is on it (I'm hoping) hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 02, 2016, 12:39:09 AM
Very nice work.

You going to add a cross member under the motor mounts? From the end that frame looks thin and would want the 12v to twist it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on February 02, 2016, 03:04:10 AM
Coming along nicely.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Atkinsmatt on February 02, 2016, 08:13:37 AM
Great project.  Looking forward to seeing it on the road.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 02, 2016, 08:19:43 AM
Very nice work.

You going to add a cross member under the motor mounts? From the end that frame looks thin and would want the 12v to twist it.

we've considered a crossmember and have plenty of room to make one out of 4" channel, but that frame is deceivingly thin. (much thicker than it looks.. not looks heavy duty and really just a tin can) it's fully boxed with what looks to be 2 channel frames opposing each other that are 1/8" full. we may just do one and be sure though. it'll be a bolt in piece either way. want to have easy access to the oil pan for maintenance if required 
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 02, 2016, 08:20:40 AM
Coming along nicely.

thank you sir

Great project.  Looking forward to seeing it on the road.

you and my bad both! hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on February 02, 2016, 09:03:42 AM
Nice Work!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 02, 2016, 11:26:05 AM
I think its a good idea.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 02, 2016, 12:07:30 PM
Nice progress.  Looks good n


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 02, 2016, 01:50:18 PM
I'm ready to have all the mechanical stuff out of the way and get down to body and electrical work. I'll be most thrilled when the rolling chassis and drivetrain is complete
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 02, 2016, 02:41:52 PM
Yes, when the big pieces start to take shape it gets good.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on February 02, 2016, 05:57:03 PM
Good looking project! I always liked the look of the M715!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 02, 2016, 09:50:01 PM
Good looking project! I always liked the look of the M715!

this one may get a hybrid hard/soft camper shell (wagoneer roof for the top with roll down canvas sides. just something to make it alittle different (as if a cummins powered 5.9 isn't different enough) hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on February 03, 2016, 09:23:05 AM
That could be pretty cool!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on February 03, 2016, 09:38:04 AM
That could be pretty cool!

^^^^^I agree!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on February 03, 2016, 01:19:11 PM
I expect to see you at the Yukon booth for SEMA 2016.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 03, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
I expect to see you at the Yukon booth for SEMA 2016.

however amazing that would be (and truly a dream of mine as well) this is not this vehicles purpose. hahah. shooting for an incredibly simple and stout daily driver that gets dirty and well used and is being built as such. however, I do remember seeing a CJ2a named the RatRock there this year (well.. heard about it. not 'saw' hahah) i guess it could be in the same class as that thing.

some guys I work with around the house just finished (and in the process of finishing another) IH Scout II that is SEMA worthy on presentation alone. complete engine and trans swap from mid 00's Tahoe (5.3 4L60 trans) mated to original Dana 300, rebuilt 44s front and rear. shackle reverse. dyna/boom mat everywhere. perfect paint and body work. recaro racing leather heated power seats. power everything. Bluetooth. etc. I'll see if I can snag some pics next time I see it..

I think I just DOT'd my own build thread  :o hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on February 05, 2016, 12:03:11 PM
You mean this guy?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on February 05, 2016, 12:04:17 PM
It's cool and all, but I am much more intrigued/excited about your build.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 05, 2016, 12:27:21 PM
What a waste of Willys sheet metal,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Dyna matt, turbo from the hood. To lang for anything but maybe mud drags. TO each their own.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 05, 2016, 05:44:50 PM
What a waste of Willys sheet metal,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Dyna matt, turbo from the hood. To lang for anything but maybe mud drags. TO each their own.

I was merely stating that the build isn't perfect.. and neither is this thing. but dang if it doesnt look pretty cool. maybe I just look past the sheetmetal and see a sweet Cummings with 1 tons under it..?  ???

but you're right.. it is a waste of some good Willys parts.

It's cool and all, but I am much more intrigued/excited about your build.

I appreciate it! I'm hoping she starts falling together soon. the mechanical stuff I can make happen.. it's just wiring a fuse panel and mainly the flashers (as dumb as that sounds) that I'd like some I put on (never actually fully wired a vehicle.. only added circuits for lights and such up until now) I semi did my XJ when I swapped in a SBC. but I can't say it 'correc' hahah. im thinking just a standard 21 fuse panel and having all the power come in through a race car master kill switch and 200 amp 12 volt contactor to power the fuse panel. looks like that's my next bit of research.. seeing as to how I've already looked at all the big heavy metal stuff for about 6 months straight. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on February 05, 2016, 06:00:47 PM
I like both of these builds, to each his own but I don't think that was a waste of willy's sheet metal. But I'm by far not a purist......
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 05, 2016, 10:14:14 PM
To me, it seems like a waste. I don't like using something vintage for something like that. But to each there own as I was a little short up there.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 05, 2016, 10:19:53 PM
To me, it seems like a waste. I don't like using something vintage for something like that. But to each there own as I was a little short up there.

can only hope you don't look at me the same way. hahah.

really just trying to update the drivetrain.. want to keep the classic look. even through the dash. going with some z series autometer gauges which look pretty dang close to factory. 
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on February 05, 2016, 11:31:40 PM
I'm a little touchy on the Willys Thang myself.  Spent close to 5 years on a 52 cj3 cutting out rust, and realized how hard it is to find straight rust free willys sheet metal. ...even in Az. Of course, they weren't very straight from the factory.
I need to finish that thing now that you gave me a little inspiration ...mine doesn't have a Cummins tho!

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 06, 2016, 08:51:05 AM
the only way he wanted this was if it had a 5.9 in it. lol. we all know these engines will run forever with great reliability and power. he really just wanted to drive the engine around in whatever.. but ran across a killer deal on the 715 (which he's always wanted just bc it looks cool hahah)
Title: M715.9
Post by: cruizng on February 06, 2016, 08:55:28 PM
Then you might not like his one even though it does have a 12V Cummins.

1950 Chevy 4x4

http://abilene.craigslist.org/cto/5394688184.html

I like it.
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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 06, 2016, 11:54:03 PM
Nothing wrong with throwing a old body on a newer chassis or even a rebuilt older chassis.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 07, 2016, 12:49:42 AM
Then you might not like his one even though it does have a 12V Cummins.

1950 Chevy 4x4

http://abilene.craigslist.org/cto/5394688184.html

I like it.
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are you kidding. I love that. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on February 08, 2016, 01:00:28 PM
It's more art deco than functional, steer skull mounted on the steering wheel makes for difficult maneuvering. I hear ya on the factory sheet metal abuse, but I'm not sure if this was even an original vehicle or a body kit that was modified, either way, the wagladiator build is much cooler, especially with the soft top I always wanted to do to mine. Jealous.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 09, 2016, 07:58:33 PM
wagladiator. I can dig it.

just waiting to get back home to see about finding or modifying a radiator for it. then the core support can be mounted, water and air plumbed so it can run indefinitely. my dad already has a fuel tank design mocked up, just have to take it to the local CNC guys to have them cut and fold it up.

found a guy parting out a 1st gen with 4" lift and correct downpipe, so I'll get that when I get back from Cali next weekend. with shortening the front shackles down to a reasonable height and putting 4" springs under it, it should pick the front up to where we need it (currently 1.5" low on the front)

I'll have to check when I get back, but I think most of the holes in the firewall are going to be used and/or have block off plates for them. so once the trans crossmember and tcase/support bracket are bolted up the cab can go on.

found a hydro boost setup from a mid 80s 2500 'burb.. so it should be just about perfect with the 1ton axles as well. just get a proportioning valve from the same year model and let it ride. I'll have to get lines made to go from PS pump to hydro to PS box I believe.. but the unit may come with them on it. the only bit of vacuum the truck will need is for the windshield wipers (figure that on out.. hahaha) since I'm hoping it'll have a vintage air setup going in with its own electric control board.

more to come once I actually get back in NC. 

ohh.. and I was able to snag a millermatic 251 off of good ol CL. so I'll be a welding fiend when I get back. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on February 09, 2016, 08:14:26 PM
Your 12 valve has a vacuum pump in front of the p/s pump, right? Wipers...bam
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 09, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Your 12 valve has a vacuum pump in front of the p/s pump, right? Wipers...bam

ohh I meant.. hilarious that the wipers run off vacuum. hahah. what can/do I need to run the vacuum pump to/hose out of for the wipers? the old truck had manual brakes so it didn't even have a vacuum assist. I'm guessing it ran straight to the intake manifold maybe..? ive guess just a canister will work, or maybe just a straight line from the vacuum pump to the control manifold mounted on the windshield? thinking of running some soft copper pipe for the air line. always thought that would look cool in there. especially against the dark blue gray he's painting the truck
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on February 10, 2016, 08:18:15 AM
Just hook the main hose straight to the pump.
Originally, the fuel pump's upper half was a vacuum pump.(not positive kaiser did it that way but was very common  back in the day )

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 10, 2016, 09:48:56 AM
makes sense. this jeep had an electric fuel pump, and we never really tested the wipers before tear down. my dad didn't drive it on the road before we dismantled everything. it was home maybe a week before it was in pieces all over the place. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 10, 2016, 10:44:05 AM
With the size of that thing I would run a vacuum tank to handle all the duties. You even see then in other smaller vehicles.

Where you heading in Cali?

That is something I haven't crossed yet are my brakes. I have vacuum but probably will go hydro later.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 10, 2016, 11:12:19 AM
I'm in LA for the week. then driving back to NC on Monday. I'm hoping the brakes will fall into place once we get the body back on. can't really see it being that hard. I'd like to run a line lock for the fronts so I can do away with the janky E brake to the rears.. as well as just running 3/4 ton calipers for a rear disk brake swap in the future
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 10, 2016, 12:35:18 PM
I was down there a few weeks back for a model aircraft show "IMS 2016" presented by the AMA. Myself and a few buddies run the indoor flying and they put us up and let use play for 3 days.

Up near Sacramento.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 10, 2016, 12:44:58 PM
that's pretty awesome. we're out here doing a Lincoln POD and a YouTube party/concert or something. not nearly as cool sounding as flying indoor model airplanes. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 10, 2016, 01:10:13 PM
https://youtu.be/DLwXXT5KAfE

https://youtu.be/JGCcGpCAwDM
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 10, 2016, 01:52:44 PM
I watched maybe 45 sec is that and was like  :o hahaha

incredible. that's some hand eye coordination right there. pretty freakin sweet.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 10, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
I can fly the planes well, even the helis, but not anywhere near that.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 10, 2016, 07:56:07 PM
that was wild. I'm guessing the main rotor can pitch past horizontal to keep it pushing air down when inverted..?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 10, 2016, 09:27:29 PM
Yep, inverted hover is no problem.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 11, 2016, 02:41:43 PM
that's awesome. next 'toy' will be some sort of drone with go pro. just cause I wanna see stuff from
up high. like hunting areas. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 07, 2016, 10:05:55 PM
managed to snag an almost perfect looking np 205.. still has factory markings on it.. from a guy a couple hours away. included the coupler and adapter, as well as the shifter.
(norm, still waiting on yours to get here too. hahah)

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we got a TMR NP 205 bracket as well.. but didn't get a pic of it mocked up before pulling i apart to paint and install the coupler and torque converter

both trans and tcase mount/brackets are zero shear designs.. and not a single bolt is needed to hold them in place. they are both rested on top of the frame rails to ensure a fail safe (my dad is a contractor.. its hard to break that from someone. hahah) but i think they'll work just fine, and are most likely over engineered. but they look the part on this machine.

and this.. is the seemingly impossible to find 23 spline NP 205 coupler. the seal around it is the output shaft seal in the 47RH. instead of just pulling the seal completely and allowing trans fluid to fill up the 6 bolt to 8 bolt adapter and possibly getting in the tcase, we thought it might be best to machine down the coupler to fit in the seal.
(if I'm not mistaken, the NP 205 takes gear oil and not trans fluid, correct?)

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 08, 2016, 07:54:57 AM
Yes gear oil
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 08, 2016, 08:40:02 AM
Technically.... the Np205 is supposed to take 50 weight oil. I run http://stores.buyschaefferoil.com/products/schaeffers-110-micron-moly-racing-oil-sae-50w-1-quart.html (http://stores.buyschaefferoil.com/products/schaeffers-110-micron-moly-racing-oil-sae-50w-1-quart.html) in all mine. Given it's rarely cold enough in your neck of the woods to be a issue, I am sure the 80/90W gear lube most use will be fine. I have also run them on GL4 gear oil designed for the NV4500 with no problems. (kinda spendy unless using NAPA's dino oil blend.)

As for those vacuum wipers. Unless you never plan to run the truck in inclement weather I'd advise a swap to electric wipers. Rebuilding those old Tri_co wiper motors you have, and all the assorted headaches that goes with them is usually far more expensive than a well thought out electric wiper swap.










Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 08, 2016, 10:59:20 AM
Thought you would chime in the Norm. When I ran heavy gear oil in my 465/205 combo it would feel like you had to warm it up again after it was started as I bogged in gear (a lot) in the 0* Miinn air.
I like blended oil, now who is the Amsoil guy here? Ken?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 08, 2016, 01:25:30 PM
the wiper motors actually work flawlessly. hahah.

I'll be draining all of whatecer is in there out and replacing with either 50w or 80w90 before the cab goes back on. and while I'm at it.. might need to do my old 89 as well. never checked it actually  :o
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 08, 2016, 01:35:33 PM
but I am all for putting electric wipers on it for simplicity sake.. if the original wipers don't immediately work.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 10:12:38 AM
my dads latest addition to the truck in my absence. think '2nd iteration of SqD snorkel/CAI

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on March 10, 2016, 10:24:42 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on March 10, 2016, 10:26:19 AM
Very very clean work there!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 10, 2016, 10:55:53 AM
Looks right at home there. Nice work.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 11:12:34 AM
V E R Y  Nice... V E R Y clever!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 11:43:57 AM
thanks for the compliments. he has many hours in the intake alone.. but hearing that kind of feedback helps. haha

thinking of something like this for the under hood air filter/box. anyone here happen to know the CFM requirements for an HX35.. Norm..??

600 CFM seems like plenty.. especially since it's forcibly being sucked in and not just passively pulled by cylinder suction.

would like to have a SqD type pre filter on it as well.. where did you source yours from Don?

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/spe-9831?seid=srese1&gclid=CKqNiP2VsMsCFQusaQodWiIFgA (http://m.summitracing.com/parts/spe-9831?seid=srese1&gclid=CKqNiP2VsMsCFQusaQodWiIFgA)

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/SPT9832.htm (http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/SPT9832.htm)

and possibly.. but less likely just based on space:
https://www.doghouserepair.com/store/item/8821/17-2516-air-filter-housing-aluminum-12-body-4-in-4-out-left-side-empi/ (https://www.doghouserepair.com/store/item/8821/17-2516-air-filter-housing-aluminum-12-body-4-in-4-out-left-side-empi/)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 10, 2016, 12:26:43 PM
That looks nice.... as for size that's a tough call. I run 5" on my stationary well plants and honestly I wonder at times if that restricts them. They are stationary so there is no "ram effect" so I'd think the sizing on his has to be close. I guess I'd run as large a filter as you can and give it a try.



Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 01:09:59 PM
there is 4" in and out.. which is what the original filter on my 1st gen has. just not nearly the same filter area as that big 1 gal air filter (which I will be be going back to and away from the puny K&N I robbed from my XJ)

the snorkel/CAI is 4" as well, and the opening on the turbo. so.. I figured continuity throughout was a good idea. just don't want the 6" cone filter element in the air box to limit what I can do..

bear in mind, it's not a drag or pulling truck. it's meant to be a reliable DD with some towing every once in a while. (maybe tractor or jeep)

it seems to be coming together nicely.. the interior and gauges will be where it bogs down until i get back (not that I'm an electrical expert.. but have some understanding of it. hahah. still need to figure out a fuse box..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2016, 01:20:22 PM
Awesome job on the intake!
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 04:16:36 PM
May have figured out how to upload videos.. oh snap

I guess you only need to know how to do that if the engine actually runs.. Don  ;D

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/B9523525-2057-4A1D-9ADB-A8214FC82AC7.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/B9523525-2057-4A1D-9ADB-A8214FC82AC7.mp4.html)

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Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 06:44:22 PM
thanks for the compliments. he has many hours in the intake alone.. but hearing that kind of feedback helps. haha

thinking of something like this for the under hood air filter/box. anyone here happen to know the CFM requirements for an HX35.. Norm..??

600 CFM seems like plenty.. especially since it's forcibly being sucked in and not just passively pulled by cylinder suction.

would like to have a SqD type pre filter on it as well.. where did you source yours from Don?

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/spe-9831?seid=srese1&gclid=CKqNiP2VsMsCFQusaQodWiIFgA (http://m.summitracing.com/parts/spe-9831?seid=srese1&gclid=CKqNiP2VsMsCFQusaQodWiIFgA)

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/SPT9832.htm (http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/SPT9832.htm)

and possibly.. but less likely just based on space:
https://www.doghouserepair.com/store/item/8821/17-2516-air-filter-housing-aluminum-12-body-4-in-4-out-left-side-empi/ (https://www.doghouserepair.com/store/item/8821/17-2516-air-filter-housing-aluminum-12-body-4-in-4-out-left-side-empi/)



I think it's a Donnaldson product. Mine has the spinner inside. Since I flew whirly birds, I connected with it on a very basic level 8-0

I would think that motor needs a lot more than 600CFM.

On my Tundra which was supercharged, when I added the homemade 3" snorkel, it would only make 4 psi boost afterward when before it made 7psi. Turbos pull in a lot of air
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 06:51:28 PM
I have a small K&N cone filter (3.5" inlet or so) on my 1st gen 12 valve with HX35 and 2nd gen IC and I still make ~30ish psi in 2nd..  ??? maybe it will be roughly the same.. not entirely sure though. I suppose I can always go bigger if needed..??

the cobra makes 15ish psi on stock intake and SC.. so maybe quality of air filter is more important than surface area..?
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 06:55:23 PM
alittle better front shot of the engine

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9DCF43EE-A3BA-4EC8-B087-CF1B93FD3895.jpg)

and the freshly painted NP205. I'll see if I can get my dad to take a better pic of the mounts and 205 bracket tmrw.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/174090E2-0E70-4DAE-AB48-49F239A3C733.jpg)
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 06:56:34 PM
I have a small K&N cone filter (3.5" inlet or so) on my 1st gen 12 valve with HX35 and 2nd gen IC and I still make ~30ish psi in 2nd..  ??? maybe it will be roughly the same.. not entirely sure though. I suppose I can always go bigger if needed..??

the cobra makes 15ish psi on stock intake and SC.. so maybe quality of air filter is more important than surface area..?
And let's remember, overall PSI isn't what is making the horsepower, it's the volume.

A turbo capable of making 30 psi placed on a system with an inlet restriction sees 35psi at the point of the restriction and just upstream but flows less than it should. Open the restriction and now the turbo makes 30 psi, while flowing X + 10%.

The cylinder only counts molecules, It doesn't care if they were injected in there, flowed in there or were poured.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 07:33:27 PM
I'm afraid my mind won't let me follow that train of thought at the moment being as I'm 1000 miles away from home and currently thinking of show loads and power distro. hahah. guess I don't see how the intake (of the motor where the gauge is plugged in) can see a higher psi but less volume..?

not saying it doesn't.. just can't wrap my head around it just yet
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 09:32:33 PM
i think I found the pre cleaner you were talking about Don. think it's gonna be en route in the next few days.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5564E518-0EEB-4E41-84E4-3017162BA09A.jpg)
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 09:39:20 PM
Pressure is the function of a given volume against some restriction. If the turbo wasn't hooked up to a hot pipe and just exited to atmosphere, I'll bet the pressure it made at the exit point would be pretty low.

By adding a motor downstream, you have introduced a restriction so the volume of air "Backs-up" creating pressure. Try to shove all that through a 1" opening and as long as you could keep it spinning, it would be making a whole lot of pressure right before the restriction, although flowing very little volume through the smaller hole

Make sense?

And all that is sub sonic lingo, Now get transsonic or even supersonic and a whole new factor comes into play. Compressibility...
Air does not like to compress beyond a certain point, when it is rapidly speeding up.

Bernoullis principle says that when a parcel of air meets a restriction like an air foil, it divides around it. A turbo vane is shaped like an air foil. The distance around one side is slightly further than the distance on the shorter side. Now the principal says that same air parcel will fight to meet again at the end of the restriction (Air foil). So one parcel of air has to go a bit faster. In doing so it "Spreads out" and thins just a bit in this process of speeding up. That creates a slight negative pressure or suction. On a compressor vane or a rotor blade or a wing of a stuka dive bomber that suction lifts the part up. The compressor wheel is shaped and pitched so that the suction it creates pulls more air in (Suction).

All that is fine until the air which is moving along, say 600 MPH and is accelerated from there. At this point to starts to back up against it's own density and can't do the stretching thing well. This sets up a leading edge shock wave. We know that as a sonic boom if you ever experienced one of those. That shock wave is highly disruptive. It actually unseats the air that connects all the air around a lifting surface to that surface. This molecule thin layer is called the boundary layer. If that separates, then we have bad stuff happening.

This is all a bit further along than the restriction thing I started with, but it does relate. It's not simple mechanics that causes the pressure changes, but complex aerodynamics fussin' with your cool intake pipe!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 09:41:52 PM
i think I found the pre cleaner you were talking about Don. think it's gonna be en route in the next few days.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5564E518-0EEB-4E41-84E4-3017162BA09A.jpg)
That's not it

Let me find it...
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 09:45:13 PM
It's a Donaldson "Top Spin"
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 09:47:52 PM
you should write a book.. ??? hahah

the next question would be, how could/would one test the VOLUME as it relates to PRESSURE once all gauges are hooked up? say I see 35 psi on autometer.. how do I know I'm getting good, solid volume and boost in the intake manifold?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 09:49:28 PM
I saw the top spin models. do you see any issue with what i posted? my dad likes the look of the clear sided model.. hhah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 09:57:35 PM
you should write a book.. ??? hahah

the next question would be, how could/would one test the VOLUME as it relates to PRESSURE once all gauges are hooked up? say I see 35 psi on autometer.. how do I know I'm getting good, solid volume and boost in the intake manifold?
well you'll have to purchase a BDPPVMD (Big Don Pipe Pressure and volume measurin' device)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 10, 2016, 10:02:16 PM
I saw the top spin models. do you see any issue with what i posted? my dad likes the look of the clear sided model.. hhah
Well, I have one on my CASE and the darned thing gets all fuzzed up and cloudy lookin'!

Cheap junk if you ask me. Now mine atop Square D says "This guy here who owns me, why, he's intelligent...or legitimate, or something like that. People see that truck and their eyes quickly go to the top spin, which I like to call my "Top Hat" and I can just read their minds "This guy here is intelligent...I can see it in that top thingy!"

That's what I have to say about that!
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Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2016, 10:12:33 PM

the next question would be, how could/would one test the VOLUME as it relates to PRESSURE once all gauges are hooked up? say I see 35 psi on autometer.. how do I know I'm getting good, solid volume and boost in the intake manifold?

You being serious? or trying to keep Dr. D on his toes?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 10:29:02 PM
just trying to clarify. he had said earlier than I could see higher PSI but not the volume I needed or that could be produced in a particular system.

I guess I was thinking of restricting the wrong end. after re reading, you are talking about where it feeds in to the motor, not where it air is coming from (if I understood that after the 3rd or 4th read. hahah)

I guess I was thinking that since the turbo was forcibly sucking air through the snorkel and filter, it was less about surface area of the filter and more about the quality of the filter material. the piping from the turbo into the IC and the intake horn are all factory, so it's as dodge intended. I was mainly concerned with a 6" total diameter cone filter inside a sealed tube only opened to the snorkel being able to flow enough air to keep the HX35 happy.

my 1st gen 12 valve with 2nd gen turbo and IC pushes 32 ish psi. and that probe isn't in the intake horn but the actual manifold itself, past what would be called the 'most restrictive point' (square hole between intake horn and manifold just above cylinders

just making sure we're all on the same page  :-\ hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 10:31:18 PM
I think maybe we were both talking about the same thing, but thinking of what was effecting it coming from different ends.. ???
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Post by: stlaser on March 10, 2016, 10:46:25 PM
I saw the top spin models. do you see any issue with what i posted? my dad likes the look of the clear sided model.. hhah
Well, I have one on my CASE and the darned thing gets all fuzzed up and cloudy lookin'!

Cheap junk if you ask me. Now mine atop Square D says "This guy here who owns me, why, he's intelligent...or legitimate, or something like that. People see that truck and their eyes quickly go to the top spin, which I like to call my "Top Hat" and I can just read their minds "This guy here is intelligent...I can see it in that top thingy!"

That's what I have to say about that!

Question, how does anyone see the top hat on sq d? You carrying a picture of it around taped to your forehead or was this possibly on the way to the diesel mechanics shop on the trailer behind C-max as you were stuck in a mall mulch bed again?  ::)
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Post by: KensAuto on March 10, 2016, 10:46:38 PM
Ahh. Well in plain terms (not fancy pilot ed-you-my-kated terms) if you have a known psi at the intake, and it's what's to be expected from a certain engine (lets say 35psi is max expected) and you achieve that number, then volume is not an issue, because if the required volume isn't met, pressure drops.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2016, 11:15:42 PM
that's how it worked in my mind.. but when he threw in witchcraft gyro copter aerodynamics (or lack there of..) it threw me off alittle. hahah.

what he said makes perfect sense, pushing a lot on air down a pipe into/through a small hole creates a lot if pressure, but no volume. I wasn't concerned with flow from the compressor wheel to the engine intake, I was/am concerned with getting enough air to the inlet of the turbo through a 4" pipe and 6" cone filter

btw Don, it looked as if the top spin is only rated to either 200 or 400CFM (not sure what the LR and HR designations are for).. so maybe that's why SqD isn't running..?  ??? ;D

all joking aside, I can't wait til you upload a vid out of the blue with no intro or hype of it running and driving to the store on its first 'be double E double are you in'
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 11, 2016, 10:28:47 PM
I saw the top spin models. do you see any issue with what i posted? my dad likes the look of the clear sided model.. hhah
Well, I have one on my CASE and the darned thing gets all fuzzed up and cloudy lookin'!

Cheap junk if you ask me. Now mine atop Square D says "This guy here who owns me, why, he's intelligent...or legitimate, or something like that. People see that truck and their eyes quickly go to the top spin, which I like to call my "Top Hat" and I can just read their minds "This guy here is intelligent...I can see it in that top thingy!"

That's what I have to say about that!

Question, how does anyone see the top hat on sq d? You carrying a picture of it around taped to your forehead or was this possibly on the way to the diesel mechanics shop on the trailer behind C-max as you were stuck in a mall mulch bed again?  ::)
I drag folks in there all the time. Then use the snow shovel to remove the dust so they can make out the outline of a truck
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 11, 2016, 11:16:21 PM
I saw the top spin models. do you see any issue with what i posted? my dad likes the look of the clear sided model.. hhah
Well, I have one on my CASE and the darned thing gets all fuzzed up and cloudy lookin'!

Cheap junk if you ask me. Now mine atop Square D says "This guy here who owns me, why, he's intelligent...or legitimate, or something like that. People see that truck and their eyes quickly go to the top spin, which I like to call my "Top Hat" and I can just read their minds "This guy here is intelligent...I can see it in that top thingy!"

That's what I have to say about that!

Question, how does anyone see the top hat on sq d? You carrying a picture of it around taped to your forehead or was this possibly on the way to the diesel mechanics shop on the trailer behind C-max as you were stuck in a mall mulch bed again?  ::)
I drag folks in there all the time. Then use the snow shovel to remove the dust so they can make out the outline of a truck


I have a sneaking suspicion you'll have it running in the coming weeks and it'll just show up somewhere..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on March 11, 2016, 11:40:23 PM
I'm guessing trn's shop by the back of a trailer.....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 11, 2016, 11:49:24 PM
I'm guessing trn's shop by the back of a trailer.....

shots fired! on every recent thread. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 12, 2016, 07:03:06 AM
If it were a crew cab, I'd be standing in his driveway with a couple dollars in my hand.  Dually and trailer with me.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 07:35:52 AM
right there with you. I want a crew so bad. passed up a solid body and rear doors from one guy along with a rolling chassis with all mounts/brackets/axles from another  not too long ago. I had an engine already lined up as well.. and have an extra 47rh to go with it. it would have been pretty awesome.

one day..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 07:07:18 PM
TMR NP205 brace/support

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/643C87CF-C4BA-42F5-A749-F4483BE4C409.jpg)

trans and tcase support/mount
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/ED37A91C-E26A-4964-B5B8-66ABA50E63E6.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 12, 2016, 08:53:24 PM
Man that's going to look good when you are done.  Lets just hope it doesnt turn into a paperweight like SQ D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 08:58:43 PM
Man that's going to look good when you are done.  Lets just hope it doesnt turn into a paperweight like SQ D

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/B9523525-2057-4A1D-9ADB-A8214FC82AC7.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/B9523525-2057-4A1D-9ADB-A8214FC82AC7.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 09:03:10 PM
already once step closer  ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 12, 2016, 09:09:02 PM
Very nice. Remember making one for my old 77 GMC and it was not as nice as yours.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on March 12, 2016, 09:12:08 PM
Where's all the smoke at?  The last one of those that ran on here made a lot of smoke inside a garage and it looked all foggy and such......
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 09:15:44 PM
Where's all the smoke at?  The last one of those that ran on here made a lot of smoke inside a garage and it looked all foggy and such......

ohh it blew lots of smoke to begin with.. I think it was from having sat for awhile. it burned it out and runs pretty clean now.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 09:19:24 PM

this is what it looked like.. it took lots of purple power and naphtha

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/989DBBEF-8BBD-47A3-ADC8-A3B6CF9D2431.jpg)

and it turned to this..  ;D

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E0E53B7F-F86A-4D84-9F4F-D4E0723147C8.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on March 12, 2016, 10:05:44 PM
Nice!


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Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2016, 10:14:28 PM
That made a difference!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 10:36:21 PM
I was amazed when we knocked off the grime and degreased it. shot it with cummins beige and aircraft paint remover on the valve covers, intake and turbo compressor housing. my dad wanted to make it look like a machine, so we did. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on March 12, 2016, 10:38:28 PM
I was amazed when we knocked off the grime and degreased it. shot it with cummins beige and aircraft paint remover on the valve covers, intake and turbo compressor housing. my dad wanted to make it look like a machine, so we did. lol

Looks good.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 12, 2016, 10:45:48 PM
I can't wait to get some color on the body with raptor liner inside. if nothing else just have a body sitting on it behind the engine and a core support for radiator and intercooler to hang on.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2016, 01:19:15 PM
I cant wait either! Inspiring project build here!


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 13, 2016, 02:03:49 PM
this is what I'm thinking.. gauge wise. there is a single panel on the center of the dash that houses everything on the original. and in tying to keep it looking as 'factory' as possible.. use that space again. (forgive the hand drawn graphics and not quite round circles.. was using E tape rolls that happened to be the right size and working off the truck center console during a rain shower..)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F45B02B5-C72B-449D-B5BF-F60E2FC83247.jpg)

they are all organized by full and half sweep (graphics are representative of actual orientation/layout/scale and will all be autometer Z series black face/white letter gauges)

like these:

'full sweep'
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/68A0B36B-05F1-4C5E-8C34-0682FD6A1394.png.jpeg)

'half sweep'
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B2A9E957-4316-4C28-85DC-ABC39B198056.png.jpeg)

the reason for alternating between full and half sweeps are simple bc some don't come in full. so, I tried to make it as visually appealing as possible given the options
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on March 13, 2016, 02:24:56 PM
Those'll look good!


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 13, 2016, 02:29:12 PM
Cool! you thinkin' about having an EGT probe? ...now would be the time!

...nevermind. duh
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 13, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
Cool! you thinkin' about having an EGT probe? ...now would be the time!

...nevermind. duh

yes sir. there is currently a provision in the manifold just before the the flange, but I'm going to fill that with a bolt and put it downstream of the turbo.. so if it does rust and fall off, it's not getting sucked through the exhaust turbine. hahah

that's where mine is on my 1st gen and it seems to read accurate enough. can't see 6" making a huge difference
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 13, 2016, 02:39:01 PM
these gauges. sorry.. video was from showing the bouncy voltage common to these first gens being fixed! (didn't have any pics of the A pillar gauge install)

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/D942B54D-6C5D-449C-AE00-4D349158AF93.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/D942B54D-6C5D-449C-AE00-4D349158AF93.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 13, 2016, 02:40:11 PM
...only about 400 degrees difference under load!!

I personally think running post turbo is a waste. It doesn't give you accurate cylinder temps (I wanna know how hot the piston is when towing) JMO
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 13, 2016, 02:43:30 PM
...only about 400 degrees difference under load!!

I personally think running post turbo is a waste. It doesn't give you accurate cylinder temps (I wanna know how hot the piston is when towing) JMO

that much..? dang. ok. well.. maybe I'll rethink the location then. it's already drilled for one, so maybe just run it and hope it never lets loose and goes zinging through the turbo. haha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 13, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
Yeah, there's a big delay. When you first start pouring the fuel to it, the turbo actually keeps the outgoing exhaust temps down, and if you keep your foot in it, the post reading will eventually climb to actual temps as the turbo heats up, but that could take a while, and then the post temps will show higher temps than actual (cylinder) because of the delay of the turbo cooling back down. Not very accurate (nor quick) at all.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 13, 2016, 03:15:16 PM
makes sense. I guess I wasn't taking into account the thermal insulating properties of the cast exhaust housing.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 13, 2016, 03:54:30 PM
Those look just retro enough fit in but have modern gauges.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 13, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Those look just retro enough fit in but have modern gauges.

that was my hope. glad someone else saw the same thing. hahh
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 13, 2016, 06:27:31 PM
Winner!!  It runs!


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: husker77c on March 13, 2016, 08:56:56 PM

makes sense. I guess I wasn't taking into account the thermal insulating properties of the cast exhaust housing.

Yeah ideal placement from what I've heard.  And where I put mine was on the firewall side of the collector. 

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160314/be018f1b0a7becf64caaba8079352a2b.jpg)


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 13, 2016, 10:28:06 PM
You mean it runs??
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 14, 2016, 10:01:22 AM
Looking good.... and yah what Ken said on the pyro-probe location. If I stop doing yard work, field work, shooting, and other required stuff, I hope to have mine a rolling chassis by the end of this month.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 14, 2016, 11:13:33 AM
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 16, 2016, 01:18:49 PM
radiator is being built and should be done by the time I get back from SXSW. same size as the factory 715, just new guts (same tanks top and bottom) and brackets. so it's a straight bolt in part. need to find some slim line E fans to either squeeze between the rad and IC as pushers, or behind it if there is room. just don't know for sure yet. not until it's all back together
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 23, 2016, 11:19:10 PM
radiator is back. just touching up/doing some PM stuff before I get it all back together..

another shot of the 205 brace. no idea why they don't come standard on anything with a 150lb chuck o steel hanging off the back of an aluminum housing. hahah
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/3D0CE6BC-9FD3-49F3-AE46-43302BC6C9DC.jpg)

added some more cummins beige  8)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/4F8879F4-E462-47DB-AE72-1BA10A57EC16.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/DCB2ED5D-11FB-4C3D-B0B7-56FB24C3588C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/53AD2E4C-7CE5-4201-9091-DB99F3B21629.jpg)

substituted in a different fuel filter head.. one that simply takes a spin on can style and not the hassle of a plastic canister with paper insert and all that loveliness..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/354FB85C-BFBA-4658-AEBD-E3428428030C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/3EB475EE-A2F1-4F4C-9268-1BB52ABA13CC.jpg)

and the new belt routing w/o AC compressor (for now)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/43E1D385-1764-4935-B885-49C309310AF2.jpg)

also serviced the trans with a new gasket and filter. fluids to come later this week. probably going to snag a case of 75/89w 90 gear oil from NAPA for the 205, 60 and 14 bolt. and have a quart or two left over as spares.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/39D072BE-CDA7-45B7-B373-D4DC03ABBAFC.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 24, 2016, 08:20:59 AM
Looks good as new!


Raising boys into RealMen!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on March 24, 2016, 09:21:56 AM
Nice!


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2016, 09:45:52 AM
Dana 44 front! Hmmm, never noticed that before!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 24, 2016, 10:46:54 AM
Looks like a 60 Don. The 60s use studs for the inner leaf mounts and the 44 uses a ubolt.

Plus it does say 60F when you blow it up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on March 24, 2016, 11:32:22 AM
d44 vs d60 identification:

1/2" cover bolts = d44
9/16" cover bolts = d60

And what JR said. he's got a 60.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 24, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
yep, Dana 60 front and corporate 14 bolt rear out of a CUCV.

I don't know if a 44 could hold up that cummins! hahah. I had to push that sucker up a <.5% grade and it was dang near impossible. I'll be glad when it can move under its own power. 1400lb drivetrain is hard to roll. hah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2016, 09:19:34 PM
d44 vs d60 identification:

1/2" cover bolts = d44
9/16" cover bolts = d60

And what JR said. he's got a 60.
I see it now...My bad!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 24, 2016, 10:55:56 PM
c'mon Don.. there's not even any dust on it! hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 25, 2016, 11:20:57 AM
c'mon Don.. there's not even any dust on it! hahah
So you're saying it is still serviceable?

;-)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 25, 2016, 11:02:49 PM
c'mon Don.. there's not even any dust on it! hahah
So you're saying it is still serviceable?

;-)

100%.. ;) haha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 26, 2016, 08:58:31 PM
I think the reason they don't brace the 205 is due to rotational force. When that cummins twists it all up, the 518's aluminum case has to take the stress if the case is anchored vs able to twist. Frame twist (and it will) and drive-train movement are not a linear movement if that makes sense.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 26, 2016, 10:02:21 PM
I think the reason they don't brace the 205 is due to rotational force. When that cummins twists it all up, the 518's aluminum case has to take the stress if the case is anchored vs able to twist. Frame twist (and it will) and drive-train movement are not a linear movement if that makes sense.

so did what I did completely undo mopar engineering..? am I going to crack the overdrive housing on my 47rh? I was worried about it hanging off the back and breaking the housing across the too cross section. wasn't considering it twisting all up and having the back stationary. it in a rubber bushing, so it's not hard mounted/welded to a solid piece of steel.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 26, 2016, 10:10:27 PM
I think as long as you allow it to twist you will be fine. Supporting the 205 weight hanging off the OD unit can't be a bad thing.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:24:09 PM
That one I used on Square D is essentially a collar on the output. Loosen the bolt a tad and it would allow the case to twist away all day, while still supporting all the weight. That's why I chose that design
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 26, 2016, 10:28:21 PM
the 'arm' for the brace is relatively short (we cut off a lot of length to have it hit the crossmember correctly) so maybe the amount of flex is going to be much less than what it would be if it were 6-8" long. (bushing give is going to be the same, but doesn't have to do as much since the radius is much less) and I'm guessing that's why it was sent with a sleeved bushing and not a bolt/welded straight to the crossmember.

I need to dig back though dozens of SqD build pages to find which one you're talking about Don.

I never thought to mount the brace arm to crossmember and flex it to see how much movement it had..  :-\
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:36:44 PM
I wish I could remember about where it is posted. Maybe part 4 or 5 maybe??
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 26, 2016, 11:55:32 PM
Part #5, post #640 is where it starts chief:

http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=458.msg7800#msg7800
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 27, 2016, 06:59:18 AM
ohh man! no idea how I missed that. did you have to add/change the output bearing housing to accept the smooth round mount? I like that. hoping mine won't cause any harm to the driveline.. but would love to use that style on the next one
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 27, 2016, 09:07:35 AM
also, getting fluid today in preparation for cranking the engine sitting in the frame. dextron 3 or 4 ATF for the 47rh should be fine, right? im sure a quick Google search will confirm that, but figured I'd stop here first with some real life experience. hahah along with fluid capacity. I know a 700r4 is 11 quarts bone dry, or about 6-7 with. just a service. there was fluid in the torque converter when it went it, but don't think it was as full as it could be.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 27, 2016, 10:39:06 AM
That would do fine fine but so much is being upgraded to Syn nowadays and not that much more $$ unless you go name brand.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 27, 2016, 10:55:04 AM
ohh man! no idea how I missed that. did you have to add/change the output bearing housing to accept the smooth round mount? I like that. hoping mine won't cause any harm to the driveline.. but would love to use that style on the next one
No, it just bolts right on. Not sure if it is designed to allow rotation, with chaffing and all that, but it certainly could.

With the point Norm brought up, I plan to remove the mount, liberally coat the thing and case with dry film graphite lube and reassemble it and torque the bolt to around 13 ft/lbs. That would allow for movement in high torque situations but at the same time hold everything in place
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on March 27, 2016, 05:06:58 PM
also, getting fluid today in preparation for cranking the engine sitting in the frame. dextron 3 or 4 ATF for the 47rh should be fine, right? im sure a quick Google search will confirm that, but figured I'd stop here first with some real life experience. hahah along with fluid capacity. I know a 700r4 is 11 quarts bone dry, or about 6-7 with. just a service. there was fluid in the torque converter when it went it, but don't think it was as full as it could be.

You could also use John Deere J20a hydraulic fluid, the five gallon pale is around $50 at NAPA.  I been running it for about 50K and has worked out real well
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 27, 2016, 08:37:54 PM
picked up 10 qts of valvoline 80w90 at Napa today. only used a shade under 9.

~3.5 in the Dana 60
~3.5 in the 14 bolt
almost 2 exactly in the 205

going to get it in its final position (drive line angles) and top off everything. doubt it'll take more than a few ounces in each.

got some 3/8" fuel line. going to bypass the fuel heater, so I'm going to step down from 1/2" out of the lift pump to 3/8" back to the tank. and then just a single 5/16" return line. running front and rear diff vent lines as well as NP205 breathers with one way vents in the ends. probably up to the top of the bed for the tcase and rear diff, front will run up to the hood on the firewall.

hoping to get fuel lines run, as well as trans cooler lines at least mocked up with fittings coming out of the trans to loop back on themselves while we get it running.

might have some in-frame running vids with radiator and IC by the end of the week I'm
hoping.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 28, 2016, 07:29:05 AM
I wouldn't worry about the brace. That said I wouldn't worry about not having one either. I use my trucks pretty hard, and I haven't had a transfer--case fall off a transmission yet.

Phil: that's a great idea on that JD fluid, wonder why I didn't think about that?

Make sure you build those transmission lines 1/2" That's OEM size on the CTD 518's. Don't skimp on the cooler, those transmissions can make amazing amounts of heat with a CTD.

looking forward to seeing it running.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2016, 10:46:45 AM
Make sure you build those transmission lines 1/2" That's OEM size on the CTD 518's. Don't skimp on the cooler, those transmissions can make amazing amounts of heat with a CTD.

looking forward to seeing it running.

Ditto on all counts. On certain "newer" years (don't ask me which ones because icr) they used a drain back check valve in one of the cooler lines, which is known to fail/plug up. If you take the valve out, and mount the cooler with the lines pointed down, it takes a few seconds to go into gear when it's cold. Ask me how I know.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 28, 2016, 01:05:54 PM
How good is the heat exchanger Norm. Would you run both or just a good cooler?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 28, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
JD fluid for diffs and tcase? I'll keep that in mind when I go to service the rest of my first gen. any recommendation on the cooler? or will one from Napa/O'Reilly's work just fine? oil compatible soft line will work, will it not? I've always heard that the valve body in those trucks won't flow fluid in park.. so you set the e brake and put in neutral to move some fluid.

I don't have a heat exchanger on this one, it came out of a manual. but another guy I know said he's removed them completely and just run a cooler on his 96 auto.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 28, 2016, 06:02:27 PM
Last one I did, I bought on line( B&M brand). The locals didn't sell any with 1/2 fittings. yes on the hose...oil compatible.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on March 28, 2016, 08:59:19 PM
JD fluid for diffs and tcase? I'll keep that in mind when I go to service the rest of my first gen. any recommendation on the cooler? or will one from Napa/O'Reilly's work just fine? oil compatible soft line will work, will it not? I've always heard that the valve body in those trucks won't flow fluid in park.. so you set the e brake and put in neutral to move some fluid.

I don't have a heat exchanger on this one, it came out of a manual. but another guy I know said he's removed them completely and just run a cooler on his 96 auto.

No just the transmission.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 28, 2016, 09:13:40 PM
JD fluid for diffs and tcase? I'll keep that in mind when I go to service the rest of my first gen. any recommendation on the cooler? or will one from Napa/O'Reilly's work just fine? oil compatible soft line will work, will it not? I've always heard that the valve body in those trucks won't flow fluid in park.. so you set the e brake and put in neutral to move some fluid.

I don't have a heat exchanger on this one, it came out of a manual. but another guy I know said he's removed them completely and just run a cooler on his 96 auto.

No just the transmission.

I guess I'll be grabbing a 5 gal jug tmrw on the trip to town. if it's worked for you, to be sure it'll work for me. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 28, 2016, 10:42:19 PM
also, will the JD fluid need any additive?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on March 28, 2016, 11:57:07 PM
also, will the JD fluid need any additive?

Napa p/n 85-475.  No additive needed. On really cold mornings give the tranny a little time to warm up.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 29, 2016, 07:55:40 AM
I think the OEM heat exchanger system woks fine until you tow. Then it needs assistance.... Dodge offered a additional bed mounted cooler on HD towing options actually.

I am a cooler snob, I tend to only run plate type coolers, usually setrab. Size is dependent on how heavy you tow/use the truck.

I'd run the cooler lines in 1/2 steel tube..it's simple, durable, and the steel tube helps shed heat also, much better than rubber hose.

Also a note on the TP cable... proper adjustment is extremely important to the transmissions health. That Cummins will eat the 518 alive in just a few miles, if it's not adjusted correctly.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 29, 2016, 01:13:29 PM
An in the bed cooler, how does that get air??

I love the plate cooler, don't see a need for much else since they work good. Like to afford setrab but there are many options and good ones too.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 29, 2016, 03:28:57 PM
Bed mounted coolers/radiators actually work quite well in some cases. I had a bed mounted radiator in F150 that cooled so well in the winter I had to make a cover for part of it. It also ran fine in the summer, sans fans unless idling around in traffic.

I agree with JR that most any larger plate style cooler will get the job done in most instances. I ran a B&M Part #: 70266 cooler for one summer and it worked fairly well for towing at speed. It was unable to maintain transmission temps below 245 degrees when plowing. So I upgraded and haven't had an issue since. It's all how you use the truck as to how much cooler it needs.

With the Cummins and 518 it also depends a lot on the converter you run. OEM style create a lot of heat in slow hi torque situations due to being fairly loose. Tighter aftermarket converters make less heat but come at the price of some drive ability loss in some applications.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
I think the OEM heat exchanger system woks fine until you tow. Then it needs assistance.... Dodge offered a additional bed mounted cooler on HD towing options actually.

I am a cooler snob, I tend to only run plate type coolers, usually setrab. Size is dependent on how heavy you tow/use the truck.

I'd run the cooler lines in 1/2 steel tube..it's simple, durable, and the steel tube helps shed heat also, much better than rubber hose.

Also a note on the TP cable... proper adjustment is extremely important to the transmissions health. That Cummins will eat the 518 alive in just a few miles, if it's not adjusted correctly.

how would one go about properly adjusting the TV cable? I'm going to see about getting one from dodge tomorrow. will it hurt it to run in park without the TV cable hooked up?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 09:15:57 PM
trying to figure out the cooler line situation.. it's 1/4" MIP coming out of the trans, so I'm going to have to step it up the either a flare 1/2" fitting for the steel lines or 1/2" barb for rubber. it's currently just looped on itself with 3/8" line since I'm not running down the road, but will be idling for awhile. didn't want it to just blow fluid everywhere. (wasn't sure when it circulated)

also, the PN for J20a is now superceded by 303 hydraulic fluid which is compliant with j20a and j20c. (gave the guy 85-475 and it came back with that) I looked on the bucket and it had listed what standards it met. so that's what in it now. put in a gallon, going to check the level on the stick tmrw morning. just to make sure it's on there.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
core support on. radiator in

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/10EC529F-D3BB-4089-BC8B-3F71BDF2D7B8.jpg)

block heater.. was easier install than I imagined

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/FF1595C4-8B27-4560-BBD4-C63EC46E5BB1.jpg)

lower radiator hose

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/734344D2-0F91-4C2E-ABAF-B06521A71635.jpg)

lower, from the inside looking down

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AF547F18-DA5A-4DAC-8FA0-E9B131C92358.jpg)

upper

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6A8190D7-47D3-4F3C-8B31-AF8A857AC496.jpg)

first firing (my mom got excited)

(http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/05174E51-FA60-4F55-B074-8F88F9420054.mp4.html)

2nd time around

(http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/004C4A9D-5766-40D4-BFCD-3EA62ED8BC3F.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 09:43:45 PM
take one .. again

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/05174E51-FA60-4F55-B074-8F88F9420054.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/05174E51-FA60-4F55-B074-8F88F9420054.mp4.html)

.. and 2

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/004C4A9D-5766-40D4-BFCD-3EA62ED8BC3F.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/004C4A9D-5766-40D4-BFCD-3EA62ED8BC3F.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 29, 2016, 09:47:23 PM
Nice!  Now can you stop by Don's house and do that for his??
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 09:52:03 PM
Nice!  Now can you stop by Don's house and do that for his??

it should be noted that the 3/8" fuel line is stuck in a 1 gal ATF jug and 5/16" return line going back to the same..


Don..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 10:19:00 PM
*edit* most of the ATF was removed before filling with diesel.

 it's good fur de injectorz
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on March 29, 2016, 10:22:32 PM
Nice!  Now can you stop by Don's house and do that for his??

it should be noted that the 3/8" fuel line is stuck in a 1 gal ATF jug and 5/16" return line going back to the same..


Don..

Boy, that seems like a really simple process....... :D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 10:24:09 PM
What was that strange sound after you engaged the starter?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on March 29, 2016, 10:30:24 PM
Where's all the smoke? JK.  8)

Nice work so far!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
What was that strange sound after you engaged the starter?

are you referring to the loud, high pitched squeal.. or a low ~700 RPMs of a 100lb crank turnning over?  ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2016, 10:36:44 PM
Quote

Boy, that seems like a really simple process....... :D

it really is quite simple. almost so easy a.. a pilot could do it  ;)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 29, 2016, 11:20:02 PM
...almost. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 30, 2016, 12:22:37 AM
That sounded great, Even Don likes it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don't helis and diesel run about the same fuel?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 30, 2016, 07:07:49 AM
Won't be long it will be driving...looking/sounding good so far. Now comes the hard part...the body LoL Your giving me ideas for my M715...maybe next year.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 30, 2016, 07:57:52 AM
That sounded great, Even Don likes it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don't helis and diesel run about the same fuel?

I think it's pretty close. my brother is a crew chief on a C130 and if I remember correctly their jet fuel is a high grade kerosine.. or something very close to it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 30, 2016, 09:03:41 AM
^^^Korrekt! Give that man a gold star

Aviatin' fuel is refined to have little to no H20's floatin' around.

The aqua-glo numbers for jet gobblin' gas is way lower than over the road stuff. But if you happen to have diesel #1, #2, # 3.14, heating oil, or kerosene, just throw it in the rather large tanks of a helo or jet and it really won't know the difference. Can even push gasoline down the tailpipe. Just runs hotter and flames out from time to time (like take-offs and landings, and hovering over alligator pits...times like that)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on March 30, 2016, 09:11:59 AM
I didn't know you guys ran missions on the local sight seeing tourist type gator farms? ???
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 30, 2016, 12:38:24 PM
Now seeing flames out those dual turbines would be cool.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 30, 2016, 12:51:40 PM
DOTs.. the lot a'ya

now.. back to the TV cable. will running at idle mess it up.. since it's not supposed to be moving anyway? and how does one set it correctly. I'm tempted to put the whole thing on a roll back and take it to the trans guy in town..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 30, 2016, 07:31:30 PM
Shouldn't hurt it to idle no... as for setting it. In a nut shell you want to adjust it so any movement of the throttle starts to move the cable. So no slack....once it's driving down the road, you may want to fiddle a bit and fine tune it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 30, 2016, 08:46:41 PM
so.. on the 47rh, relaxed is in the forward postion (just like 727 and 518) the cable attaches in a bracket at the rear of the transmission case  on the drivers side.

there is a bit of slop/play in the first maybe 20* of rotation (from front to back) when it feels like it hits a springed lever in the trans, at which point resistance begins. (not a lot.. but noticeable)

is the transition point betwee completely free slop and the springed lever the point at which it should be at idle.. and as soon as the throttle moves, immediately begins pulling against 'resistance'

or should be from the forward most postion, pulling a through slack and then to resistance

(the first makes more sense so me..)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 31, 2016, 12:01:59 AM
so.. on the 47rh, relaxed is in the forward postion (just like 727 and 518) the cable attaches in a bracket at the rear of the transmission case  on the drivers side.

there is a bit of slop/play in the first maybe 20* of rotation (from front to back) when it feels like it hits a springed lever in the trans, at which point resistance begins. (not a lot.. but noticeable)

is the transition point betwee completely free slop and the springed lever the point at which it should be at idle.. and as soon as the throttle moves, immediately begins pulling against 'resistance'

or should be from the forward most postion, pulling a through slack and then to resistance

(the first makes more sense so me..)

This one.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 31, 2016, 07:14:25 AM
This one.

copy that
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 31, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
Yes...X2 what Ken said. I recently rebuilt my injection pump. In the process I redid a few things to get proper WOT and in the end I picked up about a 1/16th of slack in the TV I had not noticed. The first half throttle acceleration spiked trans temps close to 280 degrees in a city block. Not good..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 31, 2016, 10:37:45 AM
Just like the ford EODs, from the 90s....1/16" one way or the other could cause failure!...and that's why I don't mess with trannys ...it's a whole other ball game(keep it clean guys) lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on March 31, 2016, 10:48:52 AM
So I am sitting here thinking "clean" imagining Ken spraying down the TV linkage with brake clean to reduce the last vestige of dust impending proper operation.... and then it hit me... Never mind LoL

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 31, 2016, 01:58:04 PM
Sounds just like the 200/700 trans TV cables on GMs. Take out the slop, then fine tune. Heck even just moving it around the shop should hurt a thing. No load and basically idle.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on March 31, 2016, 07:55:34 PM
Oh boy Ken...you opened up a big ole door there... :)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 31, 2016, 08:57:12 PM
installed (mocked up) the IC and piping this afternoon..

test ran it after we got it all hooked up.. forgot to put the lines back on a fuel tank. so.. it quit. now having to bleed lines and wait for battery to charge. dumb
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 31, 2016, 09:28:02 PM
I can sleep better tonight. went back out and got it going..
cold side:
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/23510CB1-DA9A-4E1E-BB72-C551226C8D24.jpg)

had to get creative on the hot side since the fenders are so dang big and come to the middle of the frame rail.

so this is the solution:
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/EE923606-296A-4B17-9FCA-9B33FDB6EB4B.jpg)

check out that sweet set of rims/tires
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F2CBD850-32E6-4AF2-B5CD-ADC490EBA622.jpg)

that's the color of the truck as well.
small-ish IC.. but I figure it's about the same size as the later model 1st gens.

put the fenders (inner and outer) and the hood on to see what we were dealing with. did some bar stool calculations and came up with an overall size of this thing. figured it'd be about the same size as my 04 f250 with 295 75r16s on it. almost exactly. same step into the truck, roof height, and hood height. except.. with 44" diameter fenders and 36"-39" tires. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 31, 2016, 09:49:58 PM
Those IC pipes look good. Did you buy some pre-bent tubing, or do it yourself? just curious
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 31, 2016, 10:44:57 PM
Those IC pipes look good. Did you buy some pre-bent tubing, or do it yourself? just curious

bought the IC and piping as a kit. it was the 26" core IC, couplings, clamps, 3 straight, 2 45*, 2 90* and 2 u turns (that's what the hot side is.. a U cut in half and spun 180*) just need to pick up one more 79-87mm clamp for the hot side elbow on turbo. the others are 80mm are just a tad small. but I had one around to put on the intake horn.
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Post by: JR on March 31, 2016, 10:59:03 PM
That does look good. What kit was it for?

You leaving it shinny or paint?
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Post by: swbhobie16 on March 31, 2016, 11:09:55 PM
can't recall right off hand. it was a universal 24" core IC. (I'm sure for some ricer something.. but it's the only thing I could fit behind that skinny facia) I can look it up.

I'm thinking leave it aluminum. maybe hit it with some clear so it doesn't oxidize. not other than that, leave it. I like the look. and it'll have a chrome grill in front of it too (original '69/'70 Cherokee grill with emblem).

I'll see if I can stick it up there tmrw morning and snap a pic.

pulling the cab back off tmrw before I head out for the weekend so my dad can lizard skin the bottom of it before I get back. going to mount the IC as well on 3/4" rubber washers on the bottom
and small 1/4" rubber washers and mounting brackets up top to the inside core support.

gonna see about getting pics of the holes and door trim pieces in the core support where the IC piping goes through
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Post by: JR on April 01, 2016, 02:01:03 PM
I want to use something for mine that I can get anywhere if need be. I have had really good luck with Ebay stuff but if I need a cooler or radiator down the road somewhere, I want to say give me something for a ford 7.3 or dodge 12v.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 01, 2016, 09:22:05 PM
I want to use something for mine that I can get anywhere if need be. I have had really good luck with Ebay stuff but if I need a cooler or radiator down the road somewhere, I want to say give me something for a ford 7.3 or dodge 12v.

great idea if you have the room. I'd almost bet the farm that if you got a 2nd gen IC and radiator, you could put it on the front of the old square body Chummins and be good to go. im sure the rad in there will cool it just fine, and the IC, turbo and piping will be a straight bolt on. just 2
small holes in the core support, lower bracket to hold the IC up and pipe washers to hold the upper section of the IC off the core support. I can get some pics of my 1st gen setup, since the front of your 'burb is almost idential to a 1st gen in dimension.

can also check out a build online that is a crew cab version of what you're doing. 99% certain he has a 2nd gen cummins IC in his. just look for twin turbo Chevy crew cab. it's amazing truck, right up until the last few trim pieces go on and then he lost me. it's a bright red engine with chrome injection lines, valve covers and intake horn. you'll recognize it when you see it. hahah
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Post by: JR on April 01, 2016, 09:27:53 PM
If that is over 6bt I have read many of them. If not a link would be nice. Plus a dodge rad would solve the hose sizing issue.
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Post by: OldKooT on April 02, 2016, 06:56:52 AM
My next one will be built with no IC because I am odd like that LoL

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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 02, 2016, 07:44:27 AM
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=f1564154e800e4d933608631a7f92aeb&amp;amp;topic=25678.0

it's a ton of pics. but it's in there. crazy build..
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 02, 2016, 08:14:17 AM
My next one will be built with no IC because I am odd like that LoL

I hear it makes your blinker fluid and exhaust bearings last longer.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 02, 2016, 10:35:13 AM
Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 02, 2016, 10:46:06 AM
Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time

yea. it is. i think I've looked at every picture on there. hahaha.

I one day wish to build a either a square body crew, 'burb or 1st gen crew.

may have a line on a 1st gen crew now that I mention it..  ::)

Guy I found on CL had multiple he's built, but found a 2nd gen crew (aka.. unicorn) and I'm trying to convince him to let the '82 go. hahah
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Post by: OldKooT on April 02, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
TRN we all have the time, we just have to not do other things, like work LoL

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Post by: OldKooT on April 02, 2016, 11:01:01 AM
Finding a Dodge crew is easy.... finding one for a reasonable price, not so much. I might get mine done one day LoL
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 02, 2016, 11:47:13 AM
I have longed for a big white suburban with a 454, 1989 or similar body style.


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Post by: JR on April 02, 2016, 12:04:32 PM
I have seen that truck on a couple forums and youtube.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 02, 2016, 12:37:56 PM
Finding a Dodge crew is easy.... finding one for a reasonable price, not so much. I might get mine done one day LoL

well.. I have a line on one that if it goes at the price I threw out, would make your head spin. and it's body, frame, axles and 93 front clip. only 'fixing' it needs is a front driver floor floor pan. which I might have swung into the deal as well.
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Post by: husker77c on April 02, 2016, 12:52:15 PM

Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time

My thoughts exactly. 


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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 02, 2016, 01:30:22 PM
Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time

I love it right up until he put the new HD mirrors, completely white front end and massive stacks. everything else, amazing
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Post by: OldKooT on April 02, 2016, 08:03:17 PM
I'd be VERY careful of a crew especially with a rusty floor. 75% of them have bad roofs and it's very hard to tell by looking at them. But rusty floors is a common sign, especially on the DS.  I have seen Arizona crews with bad roofs. It's a byproduct of poor assembly seam sealing and the fact on a crews larger roof, they will literally makes water during temp cycles. So use a screwdriver under the seam sealer and look for softness on every square inch of the roof seam. Also the pillars behind the front doors...in the pinch welds.

Also while your at it the crews are bad for cracking the rear body mounting areas, check those also carefully.
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Post by: JR on April 02, 2016, 08:27:57 PM
My burb has rust through above the door pillar. Otherwise pretty good but have spray stop rust for a few spots.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 02, 2016, 10:55:23 PM
I'd be VERY careful of a crew especially with a rusty floor. 75% of them have bad roofs and it's very hard to tell by looking at them. But rusty floors is a common sign, especially on the DS.  I have seen Arizona crews with bad roofs. It's a byproduct of poor assembly seam sealing and the fact on a crews larger roof, they will literally makes water during temp cycles. So use a screwdriver under the seam sealer and look for softness on every square inch of the roof seam. Also the pillars behind the front doors...in the pinch welds.

Also while your at it the crews are bad for cracking the rear body mounting areas, check those also carefully.

very good info. I'll check it out if/when I head down to check it out.

thanks again, as usual, Norm
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Post by: wyorunner on April 03, 2016, 12:28:40 AM

I'd be VERY careful of a crew especially with a rusty floor. 75% of them have bad roofs and it's very hard to tell by looking at them. But rusty floors is a common sign, especially on the DS.  I have seen Arizona crews with bad roofs. It's a byproduct of poor assembly seam sealing and the fact on a crews larger roof, they will literally makes water during temp cycles. So use a screwdriver under the seam sealer and look for softness on every square inch of the roof seam. Also the pillars behind the front doors...in the pinch welds.

Also while your at it the crews are bad for cracking the rear body mounting areas, check those also carefully.

Sadly, I can attest to these rust issues... Didn't inspect close enough, but I also 1800 miles to pick up the truck, so I also probably forced myself to go through with the sale.. Oh well, we like the truck, even if it's in pieces. If you want pictures of what Norm is talking about send me a PM. My solution is an entire floor replacement.

Sorry to add to the DOT of your thread. Also of note, there is a 2wd crew down here for sale.


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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 03, 2016, 09:07:17 AM
I have experienced the same issues on my single cab 95% certain I have stopped the roof leak, now have some issues with the cowl and where the shin vent on the driver side is. I'm
trying my hardest to keep myself from tearing the truck apart to fix, mostly because I want those efforts to be toward a crew. I think I might have caught it soon enough and can efficiently cut out rust and replace as needed. not a whole floor. I hope to make it down to see it next weekend. would be great if it worked out, since it's already 4x4, slightly above stock lift, body and frame.

we shall see.

DOT away. just enjoying the conversation.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 03, 2016, 10:06:34 AM
lizard skin applied. (lots of costs under the passenger floor board and trans tunnel

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/76F945DF-B6C8-486A-B2CA-24D130289159.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/BFFF7CCF-0E55-43F5-9E6A-D9D8005F7B75.jpg)


closer shot (and dry)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/713D733A-25EC-4721-A3F5-B4121A79DFF8.jpg)

keep in mind this tub started out as a rust free 1975 wagoneer. zero body work (apart from moving the M715 stuff) had to be done.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D9C1D0B6-A2F8-4D02-B469-E9C7A21967A8.jpg)

inside raptor liner
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A2F8551E-AC93-4AE3-97D7-7BC790B3F159.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/00F58786-898F-43B1-ACD4-783A6113AA8D.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E94B0CA7-9684-4D12-9EC2-82BECF890D3A.jpg)


anybody have a source for body mounts for a wagoneer/Cherokee chief or Kaiser? would love to put new ones on. especially since I'm missing 1/4-maybe 1/2 of the originals
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Post by: KensAuto on April 03, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
That looks really nice!
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Post by: stlaser on April 03, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
It does, very nice attention to details
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Post by: JR on April 03, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
Is someone paying you to do this?

You are moving so fast an doing so great work.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 03, 2016, 05:07:51 PM
Is someone paying you to do this?

You are moving so fast an doing so great work.

no sir. not yet. working this as a driving billboard. would like to do this one the side/possibly turn it in to something.

again, thanks for the compliments. great motivation
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Post by: JR on April 03, 2016, 05:36:32 PM
I do know the feeling when working on something and getting really "into it"
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 03, 2016, 06:25:22 PM
I do know the feeling when working on something and getting really "into it"

it's a lot of fun, and the motivation of having it for a daily driver is pretty good. (needs/wants it ASAP. so there's a kind of push, but want it running too)
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 03, 2016, 08:37:16 PM
and speaking of getting back 'in to it'.. when do you get vertical again and able to work on the 12 valve 'burb?
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Post by: wyorunner on April 03, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
So, I'm sure you have posted what liner you are using, but I seemed to have missed/don't recall what it is. Sure looks good and would be nice to do on our crew when I replace the floor. Did you or dad spray it on or is it all rolled?

If you want to get some practice on a crew come down to southeast AZ, I'd love some help and the expertise. I can manage but I am by no means good at it.

Thanks for the info on your liner.


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Post by: JR on April 04, 2016, 12:34:43 AM
and speaking of getting back 'in to it'.. when do you get vertical again and able to work on the 12 valve 'burb?

2 weeks and I get a walking cast. Been doing a little cleanup and odd things but climbing up or over is out until at least then.

Plan is;

Get it running again solid (gas)
Interior and exterior cleanup (seats, coatings, some paint)
Lift, tires and wheels
Go over the 6BT and tranny during this and then the swap.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 04, 2016, 07:43:42 AM
So, I'm sure you have posted what liner you are using, but I seemed to have missed/don't recall what it is. Sure looks good and would be nice to do on our crew when I replace the floor. Did you or dad spray it on or is it all rolled?

If you want to get some practice on a crew come down to southeast AZ, I'd love some help and the expertise. I can manage but I am by no means good at it.

Thanks for the info on your liner.


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the interior stuff is raptor liner.  it's a Napa product, comes on 4 1 quart jars along with about a pint or so of hardener. you can get the gun from there too. mix the hardener in the jug and screw the whole thing to the bottom of the gun (air) and spray. my dad did the Kaiser this weekend, but we've both done it before. it's about a 1/4"-3/8" pickup tube and orifice. the further you hold it away the more coarse it gets because it solidifies while flying through the air. closer, smoother. I did the inside of me jeep black and outside impact orange maybe 4 years ago and it still looks like I just did it. exterior feels about like an orange peel. depending on number of layers and distance sprayed, you can get just about any texture.  ohh.. and you can also tint raptor liner. there is a straight black mixture, and then there this a tintable one as well. can get the color at Napa. I believe it's between 3 and 4 ounces of color and 4 ounces of hardener per quart of liner.

as far as coverage, I did the outside of a 1989 jeep Cherokee in color with 4 bottles (one package from Napa) and the inside in black with 4 bottles (went over some areas a lot more than others) so your crew should only take a package so long as you're not looking to do the roof. but you should be more than fine with one and still get good coverage. especially if you are dyna/hush matting the interior as well as carpet.

in regards to the lizard skin, first time we've used that. and it's sprayed as well. but from a pressure pot and not a screw on gun. one of the scout guys put it on his 79 frame off LS swap, but hasn't put it on the road yet. norm gave a great review for some home brew 'skin but this was off the shelf and dang near free. (unused from said scout guy) and he had the gun.

I'd love to get some practice on a crew, but believe me I'm no expert.

last time I was down that way I had the cruise on 80 heading back from LA. drove from Holbrook (just outside New Mexico) to Memphis that day. hahah. I was ready to be back home
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Post by: wyorunner on April 04, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
Thanks for the info! And that is a LONG drive for one day. But I understand wanting to be home, that's how I always am on the return trip.


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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 04, 2016, 12:15:32 PM
no problem.

it was right around 20 hrs and 1300ish miles. lots of diesel. hahah
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Post by: OldKooT on April 04, 2016, 05:46:54 PM
"IF" we do our crew next and not a M37 (still debating) I will likely use a lizard skin type product on the inside of the firewall and under the dash area. I will likely leave the floor just paint on the underside for sure...gravel we have here chips "liners" and then moisture gets under it and poof you have rust. I might also do the inside roof, those dern crews get "boomy" with the long floppy roof skins.

Who knows I am a long ways from that stage yet LoL I still have to find a passenger side rear door that's nice....and come up with a plan on how to build it.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 04, 2016, 08:48:17 PM


Who knows I am a long ways from that stage yet LoL I still have to find a passenger side rear door that's nice....and come up with a plan on how to build it.

well k have a plan.. just need the canvas. hahah.

the paint on the bottom sounds like great for out there.. since you actually drive at speed on the gravel. only rock this one will see is down the path at ~10mph and farm paths. nothing wild. which is why we decided on lizard skin and not paint. plus.. we aren't doing any sort of interior sound deadening (like dyna mat and such). I'm doing the interior of my 1st gen at the moment, and it'll have rhino, hush mat and carpet inside. I'm hoping that I can get 2 small water leaks taken care of soon, and know it keeps water out before I do much more. interior is out, wire wheeled all the big stuff down and hit it with rust converter. I have a sizeaxle hole on the pass side that needs addressing, and everything else will be cleaned and painted/lined. I'll get some pics once it gets to looking alittle better. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 05, 2016, 09:56:36 PM
passenger side floor on my 1st gen is patched. going to address the drivers side tmrw and get some 1" square tubing for the bucket seat/center console bracket. going to have that done while the interior is just metal to keep from messing up good carpet and hush mat. hahah

still waiting for add a leaves to show up for the 715. couldn't find a 1-2" lift, so went with AAL for a 1st gen cummins (since that's essentially what it is) that advertises ~2" lift which will be just about right by the time the front gets a bumper, winch, brush guard, cooler mount etc.

going to see about a trans cooler since it'll be situated between the IC and radiator (still assuming the fans can fit between the rad and front of engine). I can buy some space with an oil fil relocator valve cover and fill cap plug in the timing case. that gets me ~1.5" right where a fan motor will sit inside the engine bay. between this week and next, hoping to have a cab sitting on the frame with front fenders and facia assembled. would be great to have that before heading to FL for the week. waiting on rim O rings for the HUMVEE rims (if anyone knows where to get some.. speak up! haha) and a local guy is getting me some 37" wranglers as well.. I'm hoping.

once the AAL is installed, ill know about steering as well (thinking full high steer/crossover.. bc it will never be easier to install hi steer arms over crossover arms.. and only about $50 or so more right off the bat)
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Post by: stlaser on April 06, 2016, 01:29:57 AM
McMaster.com or mscdirect.com both sell the o-rings, there are two different sizes they claim are correct (not true) imo I've had better luck with the slightly smaller size if memory serves me correctly.

O-ring Info:

They are a buna rubber o-ring the two sizes they claim will work are below

2-458 & 2-457

When I owned GLO and built the hummer wheel parts (rock rings and centers) I built a lot of these and personally ran them on both my 73 EB crawler and my 04 Rubicon shop truck. I had purchased both sizes and kept them in the shop. My memory isn't the greatest but I believe the larger size tended to not want to seal as easily at times. I think there was a bit too much slop in the o-ring. Now understand I always had the wheels blasted bare and then powdered. The military for some reason liked to coat these wheels with 30 layers of a very thick and nasty paint like substance. So my theory on this is that the reason the larger O-rings may work better for some is in how they prepped or lack there of prior to assembly.

Now, a word worth noting when you do go to assemble them make sure you use plenty of grease on the o-ring. I used to use leather generic steel shop gloves and sacrifice one to the grease gods when assembling. Basically grab a handful of grease and lather up the o-ring really good. I think it is hard to use to much imo.
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Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 10:05:15 AM
You can also get them here http://www.trailworthyfab.com/H1-Hummer-Wheel-Replacement-O-Ring-SKU175211.html (http://www.trailworthyfab.com/H1-Hummer-Wheel-Replacement-O-Ring-SKU175211.html)
If you look around their sight, they have most everything required to refurbish those wheels, including tires, inserts, hardware, the works.







Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 06, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
http://pma4x4.com/product-category/military-surplus/

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 06, 2016, 09:30:41 PM
thanks everyone

got the add a leaves in today. put them on and gained pretty much exactly what was advertised. need to relocate the holes in the rear position front shackles (need to drill holes closer to the frame so there isn't quite as much of a gap between spring eyes and bottom of frame) which should put us back to being dead level on the truck. if anything it'll be nose down a hair, in which case I can lose a 3/4" thick overload spring on the rear and drop it back down.

think I'm going high crossover steer from NWF. the kit seems reasonable and will give me almost horizontal and parallel draglink and tie rod. and all over-the-spring. hoping to get the ball rolling on this sooner rather than later

dropped the drive shafts off down the road to have the front lengthened and the rear swapped from slip yoke NP208 from the CUCV to splined 1410 yoke for the NP205. should be done end of this week/first of next

the very next thing will be to O rings everyone so generously helped out in locating. I greatly appreciate that.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 09:41:51 PM
My next one will be built with no IC because I am odd like that LoL


Come on Norm, you're odd in lots more ways than just that! ;-)

BTW, I requested a Norm sighting pic of you and Duane...What's up with that?

Everyone, Duane, on a drive back from Wyoming, stopped by to say hello to Mr. Norm!

That'd be a two for one pic!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
You swapping that 14 Bolt to 1410 also? Now is the time LoL 



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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 06, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
You swapping that 14 Bolt to 1410 also? Now is the time LoL

wasn't going to.. think I should?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 10:06:01 PM
Crap, I know-ed we forgot something..it's bad enough someone local snapped a picture of my truck at Starbucks and sent it to everyone with the caption "Look, the farming elite drinks Starbucks, whats next a new pickup?"

Duane and his son were very cool people, glad to have had the chance to say hello.

I am investigating the source of said text/picture, I suspect a local LEO is behind it.... we shall see.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 10:07:43 PM
The 1350 rear shaft in Anvil has held up... but it's also a trophy truck type shaft. So, not sure LoL
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 06, 2016, 10:16:01 PM
You swapping that 14 Bolt to 1410 also? Now is the time LoL

wasn't going to.. think I should?

If it's 1350 i'd leave it, stronger than 1410 imo, same cap size in smaller package (thus less leverage than the more spread out 1410)

Edit: I once sheared off a Dana 44 pinion with a 1350 u-joint & ran the u-joint after that even. Believe pics are still on glo site under the u-joint girdles we designed & sold.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 06, 2016, 10:58:00 PM
Yep, good time to match it all up.
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Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 11:46:17 PM
Yah there is a solid argument for the 1350 joints more compact size/ears. I once broke a 205 in half and the 1350 was just fine. Where the 1410 gains advantage is in it's operating range at an angle, and the 1410 style yokes have more "beef" in a U bolt style yoke. So in your application...maybe no advantage as stlaser noted. I was thinking abused trail rig mode... your building a much different machine.

If your using the Chevy 1028 rear driveshaft, that tube will fail before the 1350 will anyway. What I have found myself, I never mix Joint series on one shaft if possible....for some reason that hasn't worked so well for me in the past. So your cheapest easiest solution... buy a 1350 yoke for the 205 and keep it simple LoL 
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Post by: swbhobie16 on April 07, 2016, 06:34:03 AM
I need to make a move if I'm going to do it since both shafts are at the machine shop getting prepped. I can call the guy today and get him to put 1350s on both ends, but I may just let it ride (literally) and see which goes first.. if ever.

the guy is going to inspect the Chevy slip yoke shaft to see if it's able to be used. he said there were 3 different sizes it could be and wouldn't know without cutting it open. the front will be easy, since it's a 4 bolt flange to a yoke on the axle. just needs to be lengthened. the rear is the tricky part. hahah


vote for changing the 205 yoke to 1350
                           -OR-
just leave it and see what happens..

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 07, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
OldKoot is right on the 1410 angle with suspension flex but since that doesn't matter I'd also agree with him whatever route you go to keep them the same size. I always did it to make it look clean & less spare parts to keep in stock.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 07, 2016, 09:54:45 AM
It seems the CUCV shaft is already 1350 both ends so that would be the low buck approach and likely just as strong. The only issue is the strap style yokes, and well honestly on a largely street driven truck, not a huge issue. I myself have actually been thinking about this a bit for the Crew project. A three piece 1410 shaft will be a spendy undertaking. I already have a heavy wall 1350 3 piece shaft I built for when the truck had a monster stroker big block....so I bet that would be just fine behind the Cummins. I will just need to build a new front section to offset the difference in length between the old 727/205 and the new NV4500/205. I can then build a front 1350 shaft and run the same joint throughout. At least that's my thinking ATM
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 07, 2016, 12:23:22 PM
Add Glo u-joint girdles & straps ain't an issue any longer......
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 07, 2016, 12:42:48 PM
I have been eyeing those GLO straps/girdles myself. I was trying to decide in my farmer engineering mind why those wouldn't be stronger than the u-bolt style retention. I decided they almost have to be stronger. Only draw back is I already have all U-bolt style yokes in 1350 LoL
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
I concur with the strength of the 1350

However, I swap up to 1410 just for the increased strength at big angles. On Square D, I kept the front 1350's but changed the rear's to 1410's on both ends of a reworked freight truck drive shaft.

I'm leaning toward 1410's in an off road truck with a diesel engine. Just less you'll need to think about
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 07, 2016, 07:07:57 PM
I upped my D60 front to 1350s when I got my parts from Randys. Probably stay with 1350s for the entire truck for parts sacs.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 07, 2016, 07:37:26 PM
I have been eyeing those GLO straps/girdles myself. I was trying to decide in my farmer engineering mind why those wouldn't be stronger than the u-bolt style retention. I decided they almost have to be stronger. Only draw back is I already have all U-bolt style yokes in 1350 LoL

I can't recall the name now but there is a nascar chassis builder up hither yonder in eastern Canada that bought quite a few sets off of me a couple years back. I thought that spoke highly of their strength though.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 08, 2016, 07:29:17 AM
all of this is noted, but had to be run through my dad ultimately. he can be of the mindset of 'it worked for 30 years.. let it keep going' sometimes. but.. I can sometimes sway him with 'they're all the same, so when it comes to scavenging for parts during an apocalypse, you only need to be looking for one vehicle/axle to pull from.' hahah.

I'm inclined to say that he's going to want to keep them all the way they are for now, and address any issues as they come up. I'm more of a preventative maintainance guy myself. and actually enjoy fuel line changes, filters, oil, gaskets. etc. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on April 08, 2016, 02:17:02 PM
I need to make a move if I'm going to do it since both shafts are at the machine shop getting prepped. I can call the guy today and get him to put 1350s on both ends, but I may just let it ride (literally) and see which goes first.. if ever.

the guy is going to inspect the Chevy slip yoke shaft to see if it's able to be used. he said there were 3 different sizes it could be and wouldn't know without cutting it open. the front will be easy, since it's a 4 bolt flange to a yoke on the axle. just needs to be lengthened. the rear is the tricky part. hahah


vote for changing the 205 yoke to 1350
                           -OR-
just leave it and see what happens..

I run 1410 everywhere, just because I only wanted to carry one spare.  The custom rear shaft I had made is a double cardan but 1410.  Dodge in their wisdom or cheapness used a 1310 on their D60 fronts from the factory, I converted to 1410 u-bolt type yoke.  I was thinking it was way over built for the RC until I put it on the scale and then I thought it was a good idea that I did it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 13, 2016, 10:03:36 PM
drive shafts are back. my dad decided to build a lower windshield frame and hard top that will all come on and off as one unit.

autometer gauges, crossover high steer, air filter box and hummer rim master kit are all ordered. should be back by the time we come back from Florida.

in bed fuel cell/tank is all drawn up and ready to be built.

brake lines need to be run, pinion angle set so the rear perches can be welded on. and I'm gonna have to swap out front axle u bolts for longer ones since the add a leaves went on. but.. it's gonna have to wait a week or two until we get back and brown Santa starts showing up!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 10:10:44 PM
Sounds like another SD, solid build with even more fab work. But your motor runs,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 13, 2016, 10:21:18 PM
man.. it is relentless. hahah

the trans works as well. shifting it front park, to reverse. neutral and drive (all with no shaft) it spun, stopped, changed directions and spun again. so I'm happy with it for now. no more messing with it until we get it driveable and then it's off to the trans guy to have a once over.

from the cab forward has been painted and the cab is just loosely sitting on the frame. still need to take a look at one or two injectors so the inner and outer fenders aren't on.

IC will be mounted and bracketed once the front facia goes on.

a big hurdle once the wiring starts will be figuring out what/how that military switch operates. going to try and keep it as original as possible inside, so the switch layout will have to be sorted out. it's really only going to run a handful of relays that power lights, gauges, and a few accessories. I imagine an 8-10 circuit fuse block, all powered by a 150-200amp 12 volt contactor should do the trick.. ?

any and all thoughts on wiring will be most helpful..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 13, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
ohh.. and the 4x4 switch actually works! gonna save us $150. hahah. I'm hoping I can pull the one off mine and clean it the same way. maybe get a light in the dash. 
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
Put it all in a box somewhere and find some loom that looks right for the time.

Still need a builder-rebuilder for my 518. An up grade to the 47 might be OK as I have both bell housings. Just not looking for a lockup.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 13, 2016, 10:49:28 PM
that lockup should make a world of difference in your hwy drivability. drop a few hundred RPMs. and if you have the 518 PCM, all you need is a toggle or pressure switch that's run through your brake pedal and kickdown switch on the gas pedal that will disengage when activated. (passing gear)

you'll have to machine down the trans->tcase coupler to fit the output shaft seal (it's only like 1/16" or so.) make sure your machine shop centers it from from the splines and not the exterior of the coupler (the two don't have the same center axis)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 10:54:00 PM
No pcm on this rig. All relays and pressure sensors. I understand the benies of a LU, but we all did really good w/o for 50 years.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 13, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
I mean.. ppl survived with no AC or instant Mac and cheese for awhile too. but dag on if it isn't nice, and difficult to go back to not having it once you do! hahaha

if I had a 518, i would have put that in there. with a low stall TC, should still get 20+ mpg. even norm gets that in patch and I'm not entirely convinced he even knows that there IS a brake pedal in that truck. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 13, 2016, 11:42:47 PM
Shots fired!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 11:50:56 PM
Thats why I went back to the VE as I have the 518/205 and I think it is good too. It had a torn flexplate telling me it was still working well.

20mpg in the burb should be easy with that setup.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 11:53:18 PM
Shots fired!

Heck, we are strafing now!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 13, 2016, 11:54:07 PM
I'm not entirely convinced he even knows that there IS a brake pedal in that truck. hahah

I believe he's aware of it being there I just don't think they work is all!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on April 14, 2016, 07:08:41 AM
That was probably his cousin then who knocked Kay outta the truck - that Ford had no brakes too I bet!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 14, 2016, 09:41:14 AM
My brakes work very well. Patch even has a new used caliper (not painted) on the right front even, complete with better used pads.
It will lock up 3 wheels at 60mph no problem, just did it yesterday dragging 15K behind it with no trailer brakes. I should fix those....

I will let you in on a secret. The Cummins doesn't care if you have a lock up or not. Mileage changes little to none in real world situations.
A tighter converter is nice on the freeway... they suck in ice and snow city driving as the cummins trys to and succeeds in powering through the converter. I hated the last "low stall" Huges converter so much I took it out and made it into a stand for a bench grinder. Bet no one else here has a $700 bench grinder stand LoL

As for the Military rotary dash switch. It's just 24V circuit breakers on a rotary switch. I'd just wire the entire truck like a OEM M715 and motor along happily LoL They even make wiring harnesses for them and everything =P



Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 14, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
so, what you're saying is.. it can handle all the current being pulled through it and doesn't need relays and such??

I was planning on isolating each lead as it comes out of the switch and having it run relays for dash lights, headlights, and running lights. but what I think you're saying is that each lead can just be run straight to the accessory..?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 14, 2016, 10:32:08 PM
brown Santa showed up today!
only one missing is the fuel, and it should be here next week.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AE324C87-5CAE-4F26-A074-8F3A8F4AE4D6.jpg)

any suggestions on a sending unit? having an in-bed slip tank built that will be 18" tall at its deepest, and I know they are length-dependent for resistance readings..

hopefully showing up next week will be air intake box and crossover/high steer. then, it should just about be down to putting it all together and seeing if it'll drive down the road (brake lines and hooking up accel cable and PS/hydro boost)

.. but there is an end in sight!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 15, 2016, 12:10:28 AM
It depends on the gauge I believe. There are universals or just adapt an OEM in the correct spot.

Hope you got all the steering items on sale, lots of emails lately for that. I have to watch as many big names are here in Kali and I have to pay tax on top.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 15, 2016, 05:38:57 AM
i think I found the correct sending unit. just need to check my order to see which z series gauge I got.

and I believe I got a decent price on the steering, it's all components, no DOM. which I can get locally for cheaper.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 16, 2016, 06:00:11 PM
alittle side tracked on the 715 yesterday to help some friends get an LS back going.

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/AC873C0E-CEDF-49B5-B7AF-395CB4064BA0.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/AC873C0E-CEDF-49B5-B7AF-395CB4064BA0.mp4.html)

05 Chevy tahoe motor and trans (36k miles on engine, rebuilt trans) and rebuilt Dana 300 attached to Dana 44s in a 1979 international scout II

I believe the steering showed up to my grandfathers house yesterday, now just waiting on fuel gauge, sending unit and air filter housing. We'll be back to work on it in a week or so. fuel cell should be getting built this upcoming week, then taking the bed down to have the bungs welded on in the correct locations. what do y'all think about having an 8"x 12" removable plate where the sending unit, fill and fuel pump (for either pushing out or sucking in) bungs are located? (mostly for accessing the inside should the need arise)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 16, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
Good planning is what I'd call it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on April 16, 2016, 07:35:52 PM
I agree as well.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 16, 2016, 09:02:49 PM
Sounds good. Thought of doing the same for the burbs.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 20, 2016, 04:26:20 PM
fuel gauge and air filter/box are in.

next question on the sending unit (about to be ordered) is: do you think it'll be ok for the top of the sending unit to be out in the weather? (there will be a debris shield.. or 'skid plate' if you will. but not weathertight) that ok..? it's just a couple ground leads.. no?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 20, 2016, 05:21:29 PM
Just spray them with a marine sealer or battery sealer. Actually that is good for any connection not sealed up.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 20, 2016, 09:10:49 PM
Shouldn't hurt the sender... people do it all the time on auxiliary tanks that are bed mounted. I'd probably seal up the connections well but otherwise it should be fine.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 20, 2016, 10:20:19 PM
Shouldn't hurt the sender... people do it all the time on auxiliary tanks that are bed mounted. I'd probably seal up the connections well but otherwise it should be fine.


Just spray them with a marine sealer or battery sealer. Actually that is good for any connection not sealed up.

that'll work for me. hopefully have the tank back relatively soon and bed painted=bed on and tank in.

just need to get an injector looked at (leaking from between the body of the injector and it's hold down nut in the head) and then the front can start to be put together. which means it can get exhaust. and then run to temp to get an idea of any other leaks and how the radiator will do. which reminds me that we need slim fans and a trans cooler
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 26, 2016, 05:32:47 PM
small update while I'm out of town.

36" free goodyears mounted on rims and truck. (spacers on front, none in the rear yet)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6C958E8D-21FD-41D5-AC9E-2545230E067F.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/58284C78-5B13-4078-BB63-F297451C7F8B.jpg)
how about that custom fuel tank..  ;D

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/03C43917-5EBD-4F7B-B358-7E91ADD3321A.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/844BB16D-4B64-4DC8-8F0B-6667E91D2FE3.jpg)

and with a fender mounted. I dare say.. it needs bigger tires. hahah
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/42D3B94C-0E21-4ECA-B328-38DF59595674.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 26, 2016, 06:06:38 PM
Think you can let Don borrow that custom tank for SQ D? :D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 26, 2016, 06:09:40 PM
Think you can let Don borrow that custom tank for SQ D? :D

I suppose I can lift the patent and release the design.. just this once
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on April 26, 2016, 06:22:23 PM
Shots fired!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 26, 2016, 06:52:45 PM
Looks good but it does need bigger tires.

Why would SD need a fuel tank???
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 26, 2016, 07:22:14 PM
Looks good but it does need bigger tires.

Why would SD need a fuel tank???

We're thinking it might just need an unobstructed one like above......
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 07:50:18 PM
Looks good but it does need bigger tires.

Why would SD need a fuel tank???
Ya know!!!!

I'm gonna stick the fuel line in a bucket of diesel tomorrow and see if it starts...I'm tired of all this fussin'
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bob Smith on April 26, 2016, 08:24:56 PM
Looks good but it does need bigger tires.

Why would SD need a fuel tank???
Ya know!!!!

I'm gonna stick the fuel line in a bucket of diesel tomorrow and see if it starts...I'm tired of all this fussin'

Only because we care Don. Of course the fact nothing has been done on it forever counts too.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on April 26, 2016, 08:51:44 PM
Get r done!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on April 26, 2016, 10:17:24 PM
That's the same da&^*&** tires I took off my 73 gmc...those things were miserable!!!!! the "original" Humvee tires.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 26, 2016, 10:19:44 PM
Looks good but it does need bigger tires.

Why would SD need a fuel tank???
Ya know!!!!

I'm gonna stick the fuel line in a bucket of diesel tomorrow and see if it starts...I'm tired of all this fussin'

Pics or it didnt happen.....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on April 26, 2016, 10:34:05 PM
Can we get a video & maybe a notorized report verifying this took place? :o

Look at the upside Don, you now hold the record outside of any of your builds for the most comments (posts) about any single subject on this site. Hands down, no one is even close!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 27, 2016, 08:10:06 AM
That's the same da&^*&** tires I took off my 73 gmc...those things were miserable!!!!! the "original" Humvee tires.


believe me.. not my first or second choice. but.. they were free and at least give us a better idea of how it will sit. ultimately, I'd love to see some 18" bullethole rims with 37-40" terra grapplers or open countries. or.. possibly a set of patriots that the diesel brothers now have..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 27, 2016, 08:11:13 AM
I just want to get the thing running down the road. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on April 27, 2016, 10:33:42 AM
Yah Ken those tires are "special" to drive above 30 mph LoL 

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 27, 2016, 10:51:29 AM
Yah Ken those tires are "special" to drive above 30 mph LoL

it's only for a short time..

sheesh.. Don, I know what you feel like and it's only been a day. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on April 27, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
Hey, a day is actually 24 whole hours!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 27, 2016, 05:14:11 PM
Hey, a day is actually 24 whole hours!

I stand corrected.. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 28, 2016, 09:39:14 AM
That's the same da&^*&** tires I took off my 73 gmc...those things were miserable!!!!! the "original" Humvee tires.


believe me.. not my first or second choice. but.. they were free and at least give us a better idea of how it will sit. ultimately, I'd love to see some 18" bullethole rims with 37-40" terra grapplers or open countries. or.. possibly a set of patriots that the diesel brothers now have..


I stopped in at the shop they have here in my neck of the woods tires look like s solid idea. I might try a set in the coming fall
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 02, 2016, 09:03:02 PM
small ish update:
passenger side high steer arm on, TRE sitting in place
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D5F49C6C-BCF4-4CF3-8972-A155AD3C8937.jpg)

driver side
 (http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/BD9F9944-D76F-4D21-B817-2A28B9405B73.jpg)

and we got slightly sidetracked on Saturday by the oldest continuous flying display in American history.. amazing those planes are over 30 years in service

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9D0EC58B-D3B0-4B34-8DDB-BE2605FC9479.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F9F8019F-EB3C-4CB6-A139-6B6753599633.jpg)

tie rod was fitted today, slightly bent down 1 pipe width offset from spring to spring to better clear engine oil pan. drag link will mimic this on the passenger side as well. (to get down on the same plane as tie rod)

question is.. how far in should the TRE be placed initially in the weld bung/DOM end?

I'm thinking 3/4" in initially, with 3/4" adjustment in and out and still keep the TRE at least 1" inside the weld bungs.

thoughts?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 02, 2016, 09:07:44 PM
ohh.. and we picked up the correct pedal for the wagoneer body/firewall, along with an accel cable from a '97 PPump. fits perfectly.. both in the firewall and attached to the pedal. doesn't give me full lever movement on the PPump.. but it's close for now. can shorten the pedal inside the cab is needed. and, the FSJ pedal came with a kickdown switch which I can wire to take it out of OD when passing.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 02, 2016, 09:23:09 PM
Actually the F18 Super Hornet was introduced about 20 years ago (square inlets and still to old) and still being produced today.

It was based off the original Hornet built in 1978.

On your crossover I am interested as the burb gets it too. Not sure on the tierod yet but I have all that too.  I understand the center tierod is less stress, but the high steer gets less damage.

I would say have at least as much thread as the tubing diameter for max strength. 3/4 adjustment is OK, but a little more won't hurt.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 02, 2016, 09:32:48 PM
im sure norm will fill in all the blanks. and the pros and cons of each. after we got the kit (by then my dad had up his mind.. mostly bc of the $$ spent on it ~$75 more than just crossover arms) that we were going to keep the high steer and do away with the lower tie rod location. (it'll look cleaner, just more complicated to build and align. if it gets too far out of hand, we will just get another piece of DOM and put it back down in the original location with new TREs.

but, I said all that to say that there doesn't seem to be a 'need' to go full high steer on these. a simple crossover arm on the passenger side and new springless cap for the drivers side, built drag link and new tie rod in factory location will be just fine on a Dana 60.

what lift are you running on yours.. do you know yet? I have no idea how far down in the engine bay the cummins sits in a square body Chevy..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 02, 2016, 11:59:17 PM
Yep, that is what I have too. I am looking now for the adapter to move the axle forward and inch. It will help with clearance for the tall wheels which the GMs are not famous for.

Running 6 inch springs in the front and moving it all forward some will help with wheelbase and when the cummins goes in. I understand the steering and the pan get close.

Funny thing is when I just got my interior parts the guy had 2 drivers drop dana 70s. My mind when wild for a few moments about those.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 03, 2016, 07:11:02 AM
with 6" springs up front you should have no problem running the tie rod straight across the top of the springs (for high steer) and only doing a slight 'down and level' bend combo for the drag link. we are only running add a leaves on factory CUCV springs, which only put them slightly in the 'positive arch) position. (and not in the negative that 80s models Chevys are known for. hahah)

I'll take a look today at how far past the frame rails the cummins oil pan sits. I think it's only 1-2" max. and I'd imagine yours being the same.. or at least close.

and driver side Dana 70s? didn't even know you could get front Dana 70s..? hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on May 03, 2016, 07:51:41 AM
I think there are a dozen ways to steer a Dana 60 equipped truck. Every chassis is a bit different. There is not room to high steer a Dodge with less than 6" of lift IMHO. But you can run a crossover with as little as a inch or two of lift if your creative.

Jr on yours I'd talk to the boys at ORD in Co and see what they have found to be the hot ticket. They have done about every possible conversion known. Another guy that does some cool stuff with Chevy's is Kurt at DIY 4x4 he has a "b52" front bumper/spring mount you may want to look into...both businesses have a "easy inch" type of deal that will allow you to move yr axle forward also if using OEM spring lengths. Building a Chevy is easy peasy.... the hardest part is deciding how, there are so many available options already worked out.

US Dodge guys we have to do tings all on our own LoL



Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on May 03, 2016, 08:07:32 AM
Someone a little closer who is a Chevy full size nut is Randys 4x4 out of Azusa, ca. He's a good friend give him a call & tell him Shawn w/glo sent ya.....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 03, 2016, 09:54:03 PM

US Dodge guys we have to do tings all on our own LoL

do i get to be lumped in to that.?! hahah

my drivetrain is dodge.. if that counts for anything.

..and the suspension is Chevy. lol



I stand by (well.. behind in years) to norm on his 'dozen ways to steer a Dana 60'
and with a square body Chevy, just about everything under the sun has been used, upgraded, broken
and rebuilt bigger and stronger. just gotta pick  ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 04, 2016, 02:45:53 AM
The GMs have a little issue with the 6BT and the firewall so moving the axle solves a few problems. My springs are Tuff Country which searching showed the best bang for the $$$. They are made for a SB or BB, but I had a military wrap spring done local to assist with the 6BT 1000lbs.

Azuza, my old stomping grounds. Thx Norm. I have both Suspension connection and Ruffstuff an hours away. Many parts from DIY are waiting here now.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on May 04, 2016, 07:04:01 AM
LoL I didn't say I was going to part it out. I have a standing offer or three for the truck complete, if I decide I will part with it.



Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 04, 2016, 07:59:10 AM
LoL I didn't say I was going to part it out. I have a standing offer or three for the truck complete, if I decide I will part with it.

ohh I know. I was just messing. hahah.

can't wait to see the crew come together
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on May 04, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Yeah I'd like to see the crew done about last week. Problem is I need a long box pickup for daily use so that,s going to be the first "issue" at hand until resolved.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 04, 2016, 06:57:08 PM
gauge cluster coming together. may look alittle crammed, but we/I was trying to make it fit in the original hole in the dash and mimic the factory cluster in size and shape. I think it's going to end up cummins beige since the dash is gray and gauges are black face.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/ADD59698-B70A-4966-8399-D9BC8FFA8AFC.jpg)

just don't have a trans temp gauge yet. figured we'd forego that until it was running back down the road. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/4B6FC63F-4507-49D1-9BDE-7D0639FB3779.jpg)

high steer tie rod

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9E6ED2BB-DAFD-4212-AC24-F1714981507A.jpg)

driver side

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6F6F13BC-509A-4EE4-8ABC-E823D0C687F3.jpg)

diff cover/oil pan clearance. at full lock it misses the top of the diff by 1/8", with tie rods 'wobbling' as much as they can.

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 04, 2016, 07:17:19 PM
Very clean looking steering there, nice job.

I know you already did the cluster but what about the speedo, tach and say oil in one line on top, with 5 across the bottom?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 04, 2016, 07:30:00 PM
honestly, it came down to what gauges (application) came in what sweep style (full or half).
the top row, all full sweep. and moving from most to least important. bottom, half sweeps and (arguably) most to least important. and all 3 'temp' gauges are all the way to the right. it was mostly design/aesthetics then functionality.. and what needed to be seen first I suppose.

but the main reason they are split is bc of gauge availability/application
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 04, 2016, 10:05:32 PM
Really nice work!
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Post by: swbhobie16 on May 04, 2016, 11:01:53 PM
thank ya sir. hoping to have it cut down to size, cleaned up on the sides and painted.

im thinking of putting a a 4x4 indicator light to the left of the speedo. any good ideas..? don't want anything too big. something subtle.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 05, 2016, 12:48:19 AM
Do a little search on ebay. I find so much there it is crazy.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 05, 2016, 09:05:17 PM
gauge cluster cut down to size/all cleaned up

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/32A8D33A-EA19-471E-A722-B0C8F23B5710.jpg)

thinking of just leaving it this color/finish and seal it with some satin clear. it has a cool patena on it. the edges are just about as straight as i could make them. a few hours with a file, 320 sand paper on a durablock and some fine steel wool almost make it look lazer cut! hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 05, 2016, 09:13:56 PM
Nice work, looks so uncluttered with the bezels removed.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 05, 2016, 09:21:49 PM
Nice work, looks so uncluttered with the bezels removed.

yea. it does look fairly seperated. I was trying to working within a defined space. if I could have pushed it out some, I might would have. but didn't want to get too scattered or cut up the original dash more than needed. as it stands, we only have to removed a piece is the 45* corners on the drivers side of the cluster to have it fit nicely. and.. there will be another plate very close to it on the passenger side (build/ID plate) that I've been able to locate new badges for that will be made from the same sheet of metal. Hope to have it come out with a similar finish.

thoughts on just clearing the piece..?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 05, 2016, 09:27:31 PM
Clear coating?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 05, 2016, 09:31:48 PM
Clear coating?

yes. to seal the metal from further wear and keep its old look.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 05, 2016, 09:49:18 PM
Just a clear spray MAY work but once the corrosion starts it may not stop even sealed.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 05, 2016, 10:02:17 PM
gotcha. there is absolutely zero rust or loose debris on it. it's had an air wheel, 320 sand paper and steel wool all over it on both sides. and files down to bare metal in the edges. it will be thoroughly degreased. I guess if it does happen i can always pull it off and paint. hahah.

I like the way it give it an old, worn aircraft look. maybe that's what's so appealing to me
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 05, 2016, 11:48:26 PM
True, and the rustic look will be nice. To bad you already have the gauges as they do make them for the time era.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 06, 2016, 12:29:50 AM
we still have the full set from the original. full wiring harness as well. just wanted some modern accuracy to accompany the newer drivetrain. hahah. plus.. I rather like the juxtaposition of vintage rustic and shiny penny new. (even though they almost look as if they could have been from that era..)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 06, 2016, 12:45:38 AM
Vintage at Summit;

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/nvu-40141-01/overview/
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 06, 2016, 07:39:47 AM
That's steel?

I thought it was aluminum...

Aircraft thing

I put a totally new dash in my Piper Comanche 250 airplane. We made that from .125" aluminum. Pretty easy to work with. Sprayed it with my favorite Lycoming gray paint...looked 50's classic. Since my Comanche was a 1960 model, it worked quite well.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 06, 2016, 07:51:41 AM
yes sir. steel. I think it's 12-14 gauge. been awhile since I bought that particular piece. hahah. just the way it's worn and patena'd makes me want to keep it. can't make metal look like that ovenight. lol. I don't know, I'll stick the gauges in once the trans temp comes and snap a pic.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 08, 2016, 12:18:21 AM
crossover high steer done

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/737668C8-0DF4-4848-9624-D0C3117DFCC9.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F10B7E59-53B6-4978-BF24-0E7157656024.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2A7A9274-5948-4F37-BE80-72D2AE9544D0.jpg)

started some gauge plumbing. all running through the copper line back to the firewall. oil pressure, tach and water temp all coming from the front opening. pyro and boost coming from just a above the turbo and between the 4th and 5th valve covers.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D18E4F97-152B-4AF2-970E-056B81F384D7.jpg)

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 08, 2016, 12:27:30 AM
Nice and clean. What bender you using for the DOM?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 08, 2016, 08:10:35 AM
it's a manual hydraulic bender. I'll snap a pick of it when I get back to the house
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 08, 2016, 10:26:06 AM
Clean work !
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on May 08, 2016, 10:38:01 AM
Looks great. Nice work on the steering!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 08, 2016, 10:43:53 AM
Caution on the copper riser coming of your exhaust manifolds holding the wire housing - it's a highly efficient transmitter of HEAT so though it looks awesome, might want to change out for a less efficient conductor.  Great idea for tidying up the wires!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 08, 2016, 12:05:44 PM
I'd thought about the risers. but was going for continuity of material. hahah. if I can come up with a decent alternative, definitely going to go that route. I just realized that the braided wire from the pyro may bring heat inside the loom and might not jive well with the plastic tube from the oil and boost..  :-[
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 08, 2016, 07:50:29 PM
cleaned up with all the wiring run through and into the firewall.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/FF4CA8E9-1437-4356-A1D4-C8B57E1A5F6A.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on May 09, 2016, 09:23:23 AM
It may not be an issue but I have found copper and plastic to fatigue and break on Cummins. These days when I run gauges I now just use braided line. Yours looks to be nicely routed so it may like I said be a non issue.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 09, 2016, 09:50:37 AM
I was hoping that since it's not really hooked to anything that the copper won't fail. as mentioned before, the risers are all that have any sort of contact and compression on them. the 3/4" line is just suspended. I suppose we will see. hahah

just wanted to see something alittle different on there, and almost look like it could have been bought like that. I dunno.. maybe I'm just alittle weird
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 10, 2016, 08:25:42 PM
slipped the last gauge in place

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E9D32A6A-9119-4AF4-B446-14EB7734C23B.jpg)

and decided to do alittle wiring

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/82E3ADA9-C2AA-4E78-8171-974BD0867771.jpg)

no light/not quite dark outside

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and 20 sec later hooked to a 4wheeler battery with small gauge alligator clips (still.. not too bad)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/89C03C20-1BA2-4F47-87D3-6F0CA8149536.jpg)

slipped back into place in the dash

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/72113035-B632-4A8F-B9DB-026BE42B9292.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 10, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
That is just outstanding!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 10, 2016, 11:23:38 PM
All put together it lost much of that cluttered look. Much Better!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on May 11, 2016, 11:18:33 AM
Very nice work!


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on May 11, 2016, 11:55:55 AM
Looks great!
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Post by: KensAuto on May 11, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
Great job!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on May 11, 2016, 02:53:07 PM
Looks great.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 13, 2016, 10:50:10 AM
thanks to all. I'm at a stand still for the moment. fuel tank should be done soon, but have to compile an order to hopefully get it rolling again. down to brakes, wiring, shifting and fixing the fuel leak. I think that just about covers it. but it's gonna take quite a bit of work yet..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 16, 2016, 09:03:39 PM
95% certain I have fixed the fuel leaks on #3 and #5 injectors. need to grab some carb cleaner to get it fully dried to double check. but it wasn't pouring out like it was. (I think there were paint chips down in the line flare.. but I also replaced return line washers on those 2 as well)

cranked it up and the tires immediately turned all the way left, PS pump and gear box worked. hahah. but.. why would it push it all the way left. and, when I grabbed and turned the steering shaft right, it was dead.. it bumped and then pushed itself all the way right with no input. I grabbed it again and pulled it center where it stayed. shut the engine off, turned it back on and it stayed the next 2 or so cranks. maybe it just needed to be worked both ways alittle..?

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 16, 2016, 10:27:15 PM
Could be air, too much pressure from the pump, a bad box, or..........




....hoses hooked up backwards!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 16, 2016, 10:41:29 PM
I like the first couple of possibilities. hahah. I don't think it's even possible with the fitting size that it's hooked up backwards. how could it be regulated down to appropriate line pressure, assuming that's what's causing it and not air? I'll inspect more tmrw once I get some brake cleaner for the injector check and have it run alittle longer as well. I'm hoping that once I hook up the hydroboost itll create enough resistance to bring the pressure down some. it moved. both directions on its own the first full movement. then after that seemed to only be responding to my inputs. I'll check again. was more concerned with fuel leak than that, but once I know I've solved to first, I'll move on to the latter.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 16, 2016, 10:46:56 PM
I only mentioned backwards because that's what can happen (bumping both directions with no input), and thinking that maybe you built the hoses.
The hydro should make a difference, pressure wise.. Was the truck jacked up when this happened?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 16, 2016, 10:55:25 PM
no sir. sitting on the ground, with worn out 36s holding up the whole weight of the 12 valve. I was surprised it turned it so easily. at first I was just glad it worked, then I started to wonder what would cause it to do that! hahah.

I wasn't thinking about the hydroboost not being hooked up yet, and I've already alloted for a PS fluid cooler as well. (smaller than the trans fluid cooler I'll be ordering in a few days.. but needed none the less)

hoping to have the brake pedal assembly at least mocked up in the next day or so. going to use the original Chevy push rod and build an adapter to go from the M715 pedal to pushrod. so long as it applies pressure and pushing in a near straight line, it should be just fine.. correct? (as if it were still in the Chevy) also, I shouldn't be able to push the pedal with no PS fluid in the HB or engine running.. correct? cause it's pretty tight at the moment. lol.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 16, 2016, 11:00:08 PM
It will be real tough to push, but you can still push it.

Oh, and yeah, just keep it straight...no side force...should be gtg



I hate to harp on the "lines being crossed" theory, but if they are, you could easily break your arm, so please double check it. Pressure line towards the radiator, return towards the column....and I'm pretty sure they can be swapped on a dodge (but maybe I'm just getting old and can't remember important facts anymore...ha)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 16, 2016, 11:52:13 PM
Without going back through the thread does it have ram assist? I don't see how a regular steering box could do that alone as it only responds to input.

If the ram is hooked up backwards, that would account for it unless there is a bad seal inside.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 17, 2016, 06:48:16 AM
no ram assist. it was/is supposedly a remanufactured unit for a 70s/80s FSJ.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on May 17, 2016, 09:20:05 AM
Like Ken said the hoses reversed...or even more likely, there is a broken O ring in the direction control valve. They are very easy to tear while reassembling the box. Worse case deal just rebuild the box. The seal kits are inexpensive enough...
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 17, 2016, 09:20:57 AM
95% certain I have fixed the fuel leaks on #3 and #5 injectors. need to grab some carb cleaner to get it fully dried to double check. but it wasn't pouring out like it was. (I think there were paint chips down in the line flare.. but I also replaced return line washers on those 2 as well)

cranked it up and the tires immediately turned all the way left, PS pump and gear box worked. hahah. but.. why would it push it all the way left. and, when I grabbed and turned the steering shaft right, it was dead.. it bumped and then pushed itself all the way right with no input. I grabbed it again and pulled it center where it stayed. shut the engine off, turned it back on and it stayed the next 2 or so cranks. maybe it just needed to be worked both ways alittle..?


That's a hydraulic control valve
Either failed, broke in half, leaking internally, or assembled backwards.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 17, 2016, 11:47:05 AM
could it be the sector shaft preload adjustment on the top
of the box not putting pressure down on it? I vaguely remember my dad messing with it.. maybe took all the pressure off it?

I'll have to double check what its doing when I get home and fire it back up..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 17, 2016, 11:50:07 AM
No expert but doesn't the shaft just affect gear mesh?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 17, 2016, 12:09:42 PM
The input shaft has a spring steel tang down the center (that's what the roll pin is at the top). When you turn the wheel, that thin tang flexes and opens the passage way in the valve. That's why you have a little bit of play in the wheel even when the box is adjusted up tight, because the first bit of movement is the "flex" valving.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 17, 2016, 07:15:06 PM
well.. I think I fixed the leaking injectors!

and the steering didn't do anything funky when running today. alittle jerky, but I think it's bc of air. nothing serious. it turns well enough.

now, ordering electric fans, trans cooler and shifter. brake lines will need to be run soon too..

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 19, 2016, 01:58:44 PM
mocked up.. notice the straps suspending it. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D0F0B6BD-9E42-4F02-8A81-4C7F6F8C5C3A.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/24E91ECB-B4B3-4BAE-A343-0202C8DDFDDF.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 19, 2016, 02:24:51 PM
mocked up.. notice the straps suspending it. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D0F0B6BD-9E42-4F02-8A81-4C7F6F8C5C3A.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/24E91ECB-B4B3-4BAE-A343-0202C8DDFDDF.jpg)


And while using weld quality precision wooden blocks!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 19, 2016, 02:50:09 PM
That is a man sized drive shaft!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 19, 2016, 06:18:21 PM
it was modeled after my.. never mind.

stock CUCV rear shaft shortened with a splined slip shaft welded in. front is a factory CUCV axle that's been lengthened
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 19, 2016, 06:49:06 PM
so.. since the previous post, welded on front and rear brackets to the tank, slung a rear crossmember between the frame rails, and drilled a couple holes. going to clean the inside of the tank and line it with tank liner. then, it'll get cleaned, primed and painted on the exterior. bungs, ball valve and plugs will go in and hooked up. (supply and return lines) going to get the sending unit heading this way as well.. along with a fuse panel of sorts. and a headlight switch. once that's here, can put the dash in.. hook the gauges up and see what happens.

e fans, trans cooler and power steering cooler will also be heading this way via brown Santa soon too.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on May 20, 2016, 07:22:59 AM
Brown Santa is on my "bad list" this week... they keep running two-3 days late on delivery. Why the tank sealer? Guarding against welding pin holes or?

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on May 20, 2016, 05:00:48 PM
Brown Santa is on my "bad list" this week... they keep running two-3 days late on delivery. Why the tank sealer? Guarding against welding pin holes or?

He probably owned a Ford Pinto once........actually saw one in beautiful condition here recently owned by a father dropping of his children for school!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 20, 2016, 06:33:09 PM
Hey, we had one of those and loved it. Got us to Yosemite and taught me to drive in it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 20, 2016, 08:53:09 PM
Brown Santa is on my "bad list" this week... they keep running two-3 days late on delivery. Why the tank sealer? Guarding against welding pin holes or?

tank sealer just to ensure that nothing seeps through any of the smallest pin holes. and protect against rust. Red-Kote is what we used. looks like blood running through the inside of the tank. but, I think after the 12-24 HR dry time, it'll be hard as a rock and keep things from oozing out.

Hope to get some pics of the tank painted and hung on its own weight/bracketry tomorrow.

any guesses on the tank color..?? hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 21, 2016, 01:45:42 PM
y'all are no fun






red. the color is red
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2336F146-A378-4971-A9F5-1A369D38E5CC.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2B19F06A-9386-4177-A463-D2CBFD66E78C.jpg)
keep in mind, the upper line is just slipped in the bung (return) just so we could put fuel in it and crank it up. there will be a brass fitting on the top pointing down.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 21, 2016, 01:51:57 PM
Thought the red was for the inside?

Are those other tanks for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 21, 2016, 10:24:47 PM
someone say RED??  I like it!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 22, 2016, 10:07:53 AM
Thought the red was for the inside?

Are those other tanks for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

red is/was for inside as well. the tank liner is called Red-Kote, and it looks like blood. hahah. but.. works very well. it's advertised as only having 200 mishaps in tanks in over 1 million applications since 1985.. and some of those first year tanks are still riding around today on the original coat.

there is fuel sitting in the lower sump section now, just making sure it the bung doesn't leak and to keep fuel in the supply line. once we pick up some elbows, we will drain the fuel to check volume (to know what is below the sending unit) and discoloration to make sure the Red-Kote adhered properly.

the 6"x6" square hole is where the sending unit will be mounted on a seperate plate. it's an 11" long internal float so sloshing won't effect it's reading. figured, that once it read 'empty', that really just meant the large 10"x24"x32" upper section was empty, leaving a 'reserve' if you will, in the lower section. (obviously, once to E, refuel). there will also be a 5 gal Jerry can mounted in the factory location (forward of fuel fill) that will hold what I'm hoping is an additional 100 ish miles worth of diesel.  there is a drawing in the works for a 10" deep x 16" tall x 62" wide slip tank that will be bed mounted and has a fuel pump mounted to it for either delivery or pickup of fuel from various tanks/vehicles if needed. may also be plumped in to the lower under bed tank and transferred via ball valve should the need arise, or simply pump it in with the fill nozzle.

as it stands, there is ~33-35 gal usuable fuel under the bed. another 4ish on the exterior.. which I'm hoping will land us somewhere in the 6-700 mile range. closer to 800 is the goal, but it just depends on how the automatic likes those 4.56s and 37/39s

and the additional 40 gal slip tank should push us way into the 1500 mile range.. or some I'm hoping.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on May 22, 2016, 10:19:43 AM
Nice
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 22, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
This thing is just beautiful!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 22, 2016, 11:13:30 PM
He is way farther ahead than I am for sure!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 23, 2016, 04:28:29 PM
This thing is just beautiful!

Completely agree!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 23, 2016, 06:44:30 PM
thanks guys.

and.. it looks like im going to be replacing an injector line. there is a 'step' in the bevel where it mates to the top of the injector.. hence the leak.

hydro boost bracket has been mocked up, just need to clean and paint the assembly and bolt it to the firewall.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 23, 2016, 09:56:01 PM
What I also like about this build is that you get to do it under supervision and with help of your father.  Years from now, Lord willing you outlive him, you'll look back on this and really relish those memories.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 25, 2016, 07:53:58 AM
got a visit from brown Santa yesterday. only lacking the cooling fans, silicon boot for the intake, shifter and whatever we decide to do about steering. trying to get him to go with borgeson components to link the old steering shaft to the gear box. 2 needle bearing universal joints and some 3/4" DD rod would make for a clean, simple and durable fix.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9AA28B64-FFBE-4168-BB5D-DFBFFB68875B.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 25, 2016, 10:45:35 AM
Brown boxes are always good. You gonna use the pull through mounts or make something solid.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 25, 2016, 12:46:38 PM
for now.. just going with pull through mounts on the fans. the trans and PS cooler will most likely get hard/solid mounts. the trans cooler is going to be a booger to get between the IC and rad.. we shall see
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: rpar86 on May 25, 2016, 09:26:37 PM
got a visit from brown Santa yesterday.

Funny you say that... old neighbor never did much in the way of christmas lights, but he did have a plastic blow-mold Santa that he'd put in the front window... he had somewhat of a brown tone to him...lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 01, 2016, 09:40:43 PM
thinking this may be fuel leak issue..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/43BF45C1-B061-477E-952B-3A3D70F240CE.jpg)

new on the left, old (hopefully faulty) one on the right.

a friend of mine here told they were non reusable lines which is why there is a shoulder on this one. is that true?

I'll have a progress report in the morning after I fire it up..  sure hope this fixes it

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 01, 2016, 10:39:42 PM
Never heard of them being non reusable.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 01, 2016, 10:51:51 PM
nor have I. I'm hoping it was leaking due to the shelf cut into the line. or from being misaligned. anything. and that the new line will solve my fuel leak.

fingers crossed. will know in the morning
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 01, 2016, 11:21:57 PM
I would suspect the little channel as a problem. But they should be reusable.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 02, 2016, 09:35:12 AM
Don't be shy when you tighten them....they have to seat in.

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 02, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
well I cranked it up. let it run for a bit and it didn't seem to have any weeping. turned it off, rolled it back in the garage for the night and it seemed alittle damp. so i put the wrench on it and gave it a 'bump'. felt like it settled and that was it. sprayed with carb cleaner and let it sit for the night. will crank again tmrw in hopes to find a bone dry injector. the line on the pump is perfect. only the injector end, but it might have been bc I was skidish of over tightening. that's what I'm hoping for..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 03, 2016, 10:19:06 PM
got the E fans mounted. still not wired yet. going to figure out a fuse block location, mount it and run a main power wire on a relay for it. then start the task of wiring what little needs to be done on the truck.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/35D3ED64-3B85-4901-A6B5-2E5A0B101630.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/317F2150-4899-4154-8728-6B0B6C289C4F.jpg)

hoses everywhere!
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/DE1D2CE9-D356-4033-BA74-F6573EED67AD.jpg)

hydroboost all plumbed. there is some order to it once it all gets its final placement. just need a new coupler for the steering shaft to be able to bolt the wheel/column and brake pedal in place. hopefully running some brake lines next week and starting to put some fenders on!

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E3E03368-5618-4350-9470-7E4B94292673.jpg)

there are all kinds of coolers on this thing. trans cooler. (above) radiator (duh). intercooler and a PS cooler (first 2 pics). the only cooler it doesn't have as of yet is a Sidney cooler (my dad.. no HVAC right now) hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 03, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
Looks good. I am still debating if I want to use electric fans or the stock belt drive.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 04, 2016, 06:42:58 AM
I think if you can squeeze the belt drive in, do it. it's going to flow more air than the E fans.. and as norm said, they don't always need cooling, but when you push them hard you're gonna need all the cooling you can get. sure it's gonna sap some HP from the motor, but they still do this day use mechanical fans on them from the factory, so I can't see it being a huge deal. and you're not building a race truck.. if I could have fit the mechanical one in there, I would have
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 06, 2016, 07:44:25 PM
picked up some brake line today, hoping to have it all run this week. once the steering is addressed and brakes are plumbed, front end can go back together. center console to house the shifter will need to be built, then it can be put in gear and creep around!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 06, 2016, 09:23:30 PM
Sweet, before SD even!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 06, 2016, 10:22:31 PM
don't say that! it's still a long way from done, and not nearly to the level SqD is. I feel like I'm in the short rows now, which is both good and scary..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 08, 2016, 01:21:21 AM
tonight's project

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B44D1F6F-DB7D-4791-B938-42E3721C5921.jpg)

starter relay re purposed to run my fuse block (seen underneath the relay.. will make a plate to cover that I believe)

wire running up and left through the firewall is the ground strip on the fuse block. 12 or so ground spades on the block as well. makes things convenient. both the 12V and ground wires are run from the starter.. which is where they will stay. going to put a main battery kill switch in place as well (like on industrial generators. to completely cut off power to everything (it'll be hidden as well)

and below is the dash. (only a fraction of all the switches that will be in place eventually hahah)
left is going to be the starter relay interrupter. which will be powered off of the fuse block, so the relay can't close until the block has power and ensuring the cooling fans will come on when needed. it's going to control a relay that passes power through the foot switch (common in old military vehicles apparently) its on the trans tunnel. I wanted to ensure that you couldn't drops something on it going down the road and engage the starter, hence the interrupter relay. (and anti theft lol)
the right toggle is the control voltage for the main relay on the outside of the firewall.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C4EDCB38-3D90-48DD-95DB-912D2D1B3548.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on June 08, 2016, 09:41:57 AM
A note of caution on the solenoid you are using. Make sure that it is a 100% duty cycle unit. Not all are, and not sure how you could tell if you don't have the info. It looks new, so you may.
A buddy has dual winches on his quad, and until he had the 100% units they would get real hot and burn out.
Just an FYI so you do t run into problems later.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 08, 2016, 01:13:24 PM
this particular one did not have whether it was 100% in the book, but it was identical to a model for a mid 80s dodge that was 100% duty cycle. this one just looked better (finish) and seemed idential to the one labeled 100%. if something happens to it, it is set up the exact same way, so I can swap it out for a less visually appealing one that will absolutely work..

I know I know.. shouldn't matter what it looks like. but it matters to me  :( hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 08, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
Looks are always important unless jerryrigging!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 08, 2016, 01:56:33 PM
I'm trying to stay away from that. hahah

this one is a Borg Warner S63, but can't seem to find the specs on it online. any way one of you guys can cross reference it..?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 08, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
Hmm, that won't even cross to the brands I use.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 08, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
Wait, it back crosses to another number, that can cross to a Standard #, and Standards version is Not 100% duty (as with most starter solenoids)....and Standard/BWD are the same company.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 08, 2016, 04:58:36 PM
so.. sounds like a I need to order a 100% duty cycle solenoid that has the same comfiguration as this. the heaviest thing it's going to run is 2 cooling fans.. 
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 08, 2016, 05:31:34 PM
How many amps? You can get regular relays that will handle up to 40 amps. You using a fan controller/thermostat?

I've used these with success. Pretty cheap considering the adjustability:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hda-3647/overview/



...oops, I think i misunderstood why you were using the solenoid. I would still consider that fan controller tho.

If you want a solenoid that is meant to stay engaged for long periods , you can get a latching relay like motorhomes use for switching batteries. It looks like a solenoid, but works differently. The duty cycle numbers of a starter solenoid pertains to the coil inside, as well as how many amps it will hold. The coil gets hot from holding the contacts closed, no matter the amp draw. A latching relay doesn't use hardly any current to hold it closed (sometimes none), therefore has a 100% duty cycle.

example:
https://www.waytekwire.com/item/77025/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwhN-6BRCJsePgxru9iIwBEiQAI8rq8xLP5jZlUTkoFnRrPikjyn2GL3gQeHTs7pwZZdAYipkaArVU8P8HAQ
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 08, 2016, 11:47:00 PM
yep. that's exactly the latching solenoid I need. and that's the exact same fan controller I have too. adjustable t stat, 2 fan, AC over ride (ours will be 12V toggle for the moment.. to keep ahead of any rising temps)

guess I'll keep going as is for now, and get that solenoid ordered or see if they have one at O'Reilly's or Napa and return the current one.

thanks for the info
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 12:13:16 AM
what I managed to get done tonight in between putting paint and poly on a set or cornhole boards..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B06A542A-CCAB-41CD-BAD3-7C409D67E509.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2485D606-AB57-4F69-B408-7FF569D804CB.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D06CC487-2A5D-497B-806C-1EAB4ACE3310.jpg)

pyro (top right) seems to be alittle dim. maybe it's from whatever mechanism drives it. I noticed that when I turn power ON, it pegs to 0, very faintly hums for a sec or so,
then pops to the temp (which was about 70 in the garage). and when I turn power OFF it stays on the temp. maybe some sort of memory card or something..? going to hook up the tach tmrw and crank it up to see what it looks like. volt meter, fuel and water temp all seem to work just fine (already tested water temp gauge previously) trans temp gauge bumps but doesn't have a sensor as of yet (need a deep trans pan, if any of y'all have one laying around  ;D ) oil and boost are as of right now untested. hoping it all comes to life tmrw morning ish..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 09, 2016, 12:53:37 AM
Looks good and I would like to see a video of that!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on June 09, 2016, 10:10:06 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 09, 2016, 10:40:58 AM
Very sharp sir. Well done.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:51:44 AM
I just love this project.

I have to admit, talking to SquareD the other day, it admitted to me that "It" was a bit jealous of this M715.9 thing...
I'm thinking of gettin' it some counseling.

Will involve sparks, leaks, steel, new and old parts...
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 12:56:44 PM


I have to admit, talking to SquareD the other day, it admitted to me that "It" was a bit jealous of this M715.9 thing...
I'm thinking of gettin' it some counseling.


maybe let em move in together. I have a stepdeck I can come get it  ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 12:59:16 PM
fuel shut off 'solenoid'  :P just a standard universal choke cable..
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/920B2EAD-ADBD-4D51-8EC3-4E7A8EB895A0.jpg)

the working end
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7E494791-1669-4262-A623-A39CFD6D52A3.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 09, 2016, 01:19:26 PM
Anything is legal today. Not right, but legal.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
Anything is legal today. Not right, but legal.

not sure if that's a complement or..? hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 09, 2016, 01:31:34 PM
They are cousins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 01:38:48 PM
I'll take it. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 06:40:19 PM
first crank with the gauge cluster in  ;D

(http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/5D8EACB3-BD3D-40D9-ACC3-DE544002297B.mp4.html)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 07:00:20 PM
lemme try again. forgot it wasn't a pic. hahah

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/5D8EACB3-BD3D-40D9-ACC3-DE544002297B.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/5D8EACB3-BD3D-40D9-ACC3-DE544002297B.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 09, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
Sure sounds good. That oil pressure is off the chart though. No boost yet?

I like the intake too. I would like some kind of snorkel on the burb, but not hanging way out the side.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 07:13:16 PM
calibrated (at least a lot closer) tach

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/C3ECFB1D-F947-457E-BA37-8227A88A972F.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/C3ECFB1D-F947-457E-BA37-8227A88A972F.mp4.html)

it has boost. just nothing at idle. and you gotta punch it high to get anything suince it's not 'working' yet.

only thing not hooked up yet is the trans temp, and that's bc I don't have a deep tranny pan with bung..

I think my dad said he has 9-10 hrs in the cowl section of the intake lol. and it doesn't have a cap yet.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 07:43:04 PM
and the kill switch

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/EF75FAAE-4A02-4B4E-8F7C-6698C60BAB23.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/EF75FAAE-4A02-4B4E-8F7C-6698C60BAB23.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:55:05 PM


I have to admit, talking to SquareD the other day, it admitted to me that "It" was a bit jealous of this M715.9 thing...
I'm thinking of gettin' it some counseling.


maybe let em move in together. I have a stepdeck I can come get it  ;D
Good idea! Maybe some Lycoming gray will wear off on the Armee Jeep!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 09, 2016, 11:31:11 PM


I have to admit, talking to SquareD the other day, it admitted to me that "It" was a bit jealous of this M715.9 thing...
I'm thinking of gettin' it some counseling.


maybe let em move in together. I have a stepdeck I can come get it  ;D
Good idea! Maybe some Lycoming gray will wear off on the Armee Jeep!

possibly. but between the industrial blue gray body paint (which is pretty darn tough) and the cummins beige.. not sure much is going to be rubbing off on it. hahah.

I do envy that dry trans in your thread though
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:03:08 AM
Me too. Like that white paint without the red drops all over it. Amazing how much can leak out of a tiny little fitting
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: OldKooT on June 10, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
Looking good.....I should build a snorkel for the Circus Wagon...hmmmm
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 10, 2016, 11:37:17 AM
Looking good.....I should build a snorkel for the Circus Wagon...hmmmm

just 4" exhaust pipe, 2nd gen I take elbow and a spectre air filter can. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 10, 2016, 11:40:04 AM
Me too. Like that white paint without the red drops all over it. Amazing how much can leak out of a tiny little fitting

I'm hoping my leak is from the trans pan gasket. it has the hydraulic fluid recommended to me from folks on here, so o guess we will see what my trans guy says about it. hahah.

that lycoming (sp?) may just very well end up as engine paint on the next cummins I aquire. hahah.

I am fond of the industrial teal green though..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 11, 2016, 10:25:14 PM
my video upload isn't working, but.. she moves!!

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/4480070F-3ADD-409E-BD57-26C37C0C381B.jpg)

tcase shifter in place

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B3E03A21-97FB-4163-B6A0-62D90644F298.jpg)

the Art Carr bracket had to be slightly modified (since it was intended for a 727 with no OD or LU connection on the case. but with alittle ingenuity and grinding of the trans mount/isolator.. it all works

(looking from pass to driver side, between trans and tcase)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E8964F7D-B9EA-42C7-8D75-4FB1B78E21B1.jpg)

and from driver side, front of vehicle to the left
the crudely finished flat plate bracket will be taken off, rounded, cleaned and painted and most likely triangulated to keep it stationary before final assembly.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/971EA5D2-D0E9-4FC7-94A6-7901AD0C0095.jpg)

some quick glamor shots of the built/chopped top

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/CF0ED49C-26B3-47A4-9FDD-454902B38320.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/FE88A4D5-7762-4A68-8C62-C3EF50383175.jpg)

yep.. that's a split window. hahah. figuring it would add to the character alittle but.. being a flat vertical piece of glass from a Vietnam era military truck. the 4 brackets you see on top are lift points and will function as bases for the roof/cargo rack. LED light bar will be tucked up under the lip of the top, above the windshield in front of the 3" piece of flat sheet metal (should almost disappear when installed)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on July 11, 2016, 11:07:46 PM
Looking fantastic!
Love the split windshield.
Truck looks plain mean, I love it!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on July 11, 2016, 11:22:28 PM
Sweet, just plain sweet. You have the only build going somewhere. keep up the great work!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on July 12, 2016, 01:19:58 AM
Me too. Like that white paint without the red drops all over it. Amazing how much can leak out of a tiny little fitting

I'm hoping my leak is from the trans pan gasket. it has the hydraulic fluid recommended to me from folks on here, so o guess we will see what my trans guy says about it. hahah.

that lycoming (sp?) may just very well end up as engine paint on the next cummins I aquire. hahah.


I am fond of the industrial teal green though..

I just drained my entire tranny system for my flex plate issue, the tranny looked like new inside a very very small amount of metal on the magnet and that is after 45K miles the hyd fluid still looked and smelled good.  The only draw back is if it's really cold the tranny will "whine" until the fluid gets warmed up.  I am very happy with the JD fluid.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on July 12, 2016, 01:23:34 AM
The project is looking real good
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on July 12, 2016, 03:40:46 AM
Looks great. Solid old school build.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 12, 2016, 06:06:44 AM
Me too. Like that white paint without the red drops all over it. Amazing how much can leak out of a tiny little fitting

I'm hoping my leak is from the trans pan gasket. it has the hydraulic fluid recommended to me from folks on here, so o guess we will see what my trans guy says about it. hahah.

that lycoming (sp?) may just very well end up as engine paint on the next cummins I aquire. hahah.


I am fond of the industrial teal green though..

I just drained my entire tranny system for my flex plate issue, the tranny looked like new inside a very very small amount of metal on the magnet and that is after 45K miles the hyd fluid still looked and smelled good.  The only draw back is if it's really cold the tranny will "whine" until the fluid gets warmed up.  I am very happy with the JD fluid.

this is great to hear. I still have a small leak, I believe from the pan gasket. but since it's not a crucial piece to finish the truck, it will be addressed once it's driving.. and it'll end up with a B&M deep pan with temp sensor port eventually. it's the only gauge I have that doesn't do anything at the moment, but wanted it there when I wired it all in so I knew what I was working with and could make the wiring as neat as possible. I'll just wait until the deep pan goes on to fix the gasket unless it looks like that might take awhile..

also, it never really gets 'really cold' here. hahah. so I might be in decent shape so far as that goes. there's a brake fluid leak on the pass caliper that needs to be addressed.. but other than that I think the 'stopping' is just about buttoned up. id like to put a line lock in for the rear brake/parking brake. that'll do away with the cable and foot pedal for the Ebrake as well. I have a place for it once we get it going, just plumb it in after the fact.

next hurdle is bolting the top down, finishing up work on the bed and painting that. then mating the two back together for the first time in 8-10 months.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5079EC47-C8E1-431F-A647-71C838E251CA.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F8FC6585-F46B-44D2-841D-0050B135EA54.jpg)

the open stake pockets have been capped with sheet metal to prevent water from entering and rusting the inside. some more tie down points will be welded in place before it gets line-x'd. we will also be adding a 5th wheel mount that bolts to the frame and is accessible through a cubby hole in the bed. (I believe that is still his plan) not that it'll tow all the time, but would be nice to have the option to hook a trailer with my moms CJ on it and cruise to the beach for the week
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 12, 2016, 06:29:49 AM
and thanks to everyone else for the kind words. it reassures me that I'm going in the right direction with the build knowing that others like it as well. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 12, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
the moment you've all been waiting for..

he's as happy as a kid on Christmas. now, if it'll do 70mph.. he'll be thrilled.

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/7C79448D-E793-4EBC-944D-7D90767AF2E3.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/7C79448D-E793-4EBC-944D-7D90767AF2E3.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on July 12, 2016, 11:11:17 AM
Yup, he has a smile like a kid. I would.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on July 12, 2016, 04:54:13 PM
Me too. Like that white paint without the red drops all over it. Amazing how much can leak out of a tiny little fitting

I'm hoping my leak is from the trans pan gasket. it has the hydraulic fluid recommended to me from folks on here, so o guess we will see what my trans guy says about it. hahah.

that lycoming (sp?) may just very well end up as engine paint on the next cummins I aquire. hahah.


I am fond of the industrial teal green though..

I just drained my entire tranny system for my flex plate issue, the tranny looked like new inside a very very small amount of metal on the magnet and that is after 45K miles the hyd fluid still looked and smelled good.  The only draw back is if it's really cold the tranny will "whine" until the fluid gets warmed up.  I am very happy with the JD fluid.

this is great to hear. I still have a small leak, I believe from the pan gasket. but since it's not a crucial piece to finish the truck, it will be addressed once it's driving.. and it'll end up with a B&M deep pan with temp sensor port eventually. it's the only gauge I have that doesn't do anything at the moment, but wanted it there when I wired it all in so I knew what I was working with and could make the wiring as neat as possible. I'll just wait until the deep pan goes on to fix the gasket unless it looks like that might take awhile..

also, it never really gets 'really cold' here. hahah. so I might be in decent shape so far as that goes. there's a brake fluid leak on the pass caliper that needs to be addressed.. but other than that I think the 'stopping' is just about buttoned up. id like to put a line lock in for the rear brake/parking brake. that'll do away with the cable and foot pedal for the Ebrake as well. I have a place for it once we get it going, just plumb it in after the fact.

next hurdle is bolting the top down, finishing up work on the bed and painting that. then mating the two back together for the first time in 8-10 months.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5079EC47-C8E1-431F-A647-71C838E251CA.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F8FC6585-F46B-44D2-841D-0050B135EA54.jpg)

the open stake pockets have been capped with sheet metal to prevent water from entering and rusting the inside. some more tie down points will be welded in place before it gets line-x'd. we will also be adding a 5th wheel mount that bolts to the frame and is accessible through a cubby hole in the bed. (I believe that is still his plan) not that it'll tow all the time, but would be nice to have the option to hook a trailer with my moms CJ on it and cruise to the beach for the week

If you have a few hours to kill there is a pretty good discussion here about some of the different fluids that people are trying and using. 

http://www.theturboforums.com/threads/303735-Tractor-fluid-instead-of-ATF
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 12, 2016, 10:38:41 PM
so this is what my dad has come up with as a second iteration of the center console. not sure if I like the angled shifter and cut out adjacent to it on the passenger side.. but it's taking shape. the forward sloping section between the front of the shifter and bottom of the dash is for mounting either a radio head unit or Vintage air HVAC control, whichever comes first. (I'm hoping HVAC since it currently has no heater either.. 24 volt original. hahah)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F9DA7717-DCD9-4FF1-B774-E8B70D173B77.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/76304C30-3B78-442B-A0D0-7336442CF38C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/4A9793D9-509E-481A-8289-BF647E66F134.jpg)

this was the first go-round

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/068DD4D9-894C-42D1-89D6-8638F621E528.jpg)

the final will have 2 cup holders and most likely a pistol holster clip/recess to easily slip a concealed holster into and still have access to it. and no the '
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 12, 2016, 10:52:27 PM
This is a sweet build. Was kind of hoping it would go up for sale, jus sayin :-)


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 12, 2016, 11:05:44 PM
This is a sweet build. Was kind of hoping it would go up for sale, jus sayin :-)


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everything is for sale.. hahaha.

I'll be more than happy to build you one, put it on the step deck and send it to the lone star state..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on July 12, 2016, 11:06:13 PM
Taking shape nicely.

For concealed setup, try the push to open magnetic furniture clasps or just magnetic. I have been thinking about those on mine. Totally concealed but easy access with a push.

So are you staying 24v or going 12v?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 13, 2016, 05:52:25 AM
it'll be a 12 volt system. just to keep things simple
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 09:16:20 AM
I totally enjoy watching this build!

We have to have a pic of that thing sitting next to SquareD and Sarge...Kinda like a reunion of long lost cousins!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on July 13, 2016, 09:17:03 AM
I totally enjoy watching this build!

We have to have a pic of that thing sitting next to SquareD and Sarge...Kinda like a reunion of long lost cousins!

Who's going to tow Square D to the photo site?




 ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 09:42:47 AM
I totally enjoy watching this build!

We have to have a pic of that thing sitting next to SquareD and Sarge...Kinda like a reunion of long lost cousins!

Who's going to tow Square D to the photo site?




 ;D

Oh no, you just didn't go there, Airborne!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on July 13, 2016, 10:00:44 AM
I totally enjoy watching this build!

We have to have a pic of that thing sitting next to SquareD and Sarge...Kinda like a reunion of long lost cousins!

Who's going to tow Square D to the photo site?




 ;D

Oh no, you just didn't go there, Airborne!


I did.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 13, 2016, 11:19:11 AM
I mean.. we have a step deck that can fit both of them on there to bring them to NC..

or my brother can arrange a transfer via C 130 to MCAS cherry point.. he is a load master ya know.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 23, 2016, 11:03:56 AM
picked up the exact same thread sert tool don grabbed and started putting the center console together

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C30EB5E6-0CF9-48AE-873D-91FF27DB5363.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D3FDB522-B6BD-433B-BB18-5C6BD405E957.jpg)

I'll get some better pics of it once I get back home tomorrow. hoping my dad is able to get the bed body work done too to be able to paint both the bed and console at the same time (going to keep it body color to flow into the dash)

and more brown Santa parts!!

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/853F3AE4-7E31-4418-A3C1-673EAEE2EFA4.jpg)

hot rod turn signal switch that 'thinks' for itself when pressing the brake and turn signal on at the same time, with integrated hazard light switch and 40" LED light bar to hang under the visor on the front. now, it can be bolted up and the excess visor cut off to clean it up and allow for paint.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on July 27, 2016, 12:36:42 PM
So you and your dad don't do this kind of fabrication work professionally?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: rpar86 on July 27, 2016, 06:33:32 PM
Isn't the battery in the driver's foot well going to make things a little cramped?  :o


;)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 27, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
So you and your dad don't do this kind of fabrication work professionally?

no sir.

at least.. not yet. hoping this turns in to sort of a rolling billboard of sorts. we shall see
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 27, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
Isn't the battery in the driver's foot well going to make things a little cramped?  :o


;)

with another $500k in Govnt grants, thousands of miles road tested and a panel of people off the street.. we will know whether or not it is.

hahaha

battery trays will be be cut into the inner fender wells, just behind the front core support/just outboard of the radiator on either side.  hopefully that takes shape after we get back from Manhattan
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on July 28, 2016, 10:35:25 AM
So you and your dad don't do this kind of fabrication work professionally?

no sir.

at least.. not yet. hoping this turns in to sort of a rolling billboard of sorts. we shall see
Well, RMTWS is happy to promote you right along. I/we appreciate good craftsmanship.

Now if you want the project to really matter on another level

When someone gets all interested in this

and they will

Remember to tell them about the one who gave you these skills

Then watch what happens to this thing and your perspective business!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 28, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
well.. I can guarantee it isn't all by my doing that's for sure. someone somewhere has a greater thing in mind that just tinkering in my parents basement. I was just fortunate enough to be a vessel through which they are visible..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on July 29, 2016, 10:33:22 AM
Maturity in one's Christian walk comes with the realization that all that good stuff...Wasn't you

It was the holy spirit within you!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 05, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
cup holders.. installed

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C6FA4257-7A77-4CC6-AF28-6B47706BB03D.jpg)

one the trans switches are located in the console, hopefully it'll be ready to paint and then install.

working on the bed metal work (holes cut, D rings installed and sending unit hole in floor of bed cut/installed) before it gets line-x'd next week (tentatively)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 05, 2016, 08:47:42 PM
Important items for sure.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 07, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
got some work done on the truck this weekend

new 'black out' light.. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/08005D65-FFC9-41E6-99B1-22383AB70294.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6D2B6722-0ACB-4A48-9988-B1D3457C3B2C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/81FACF44-EB12-4738-B2C5-45BBE9CB6C6C.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 07, 2016, 10:10:53 PM
center console painted and bolted down

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E2706A72-0C13-4CEC-A4D4-E38ABC8D79DC.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/01C97FCD-B81B-4F46-9463-FF87F1D8D1A9.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/91922CEF-11F7-4DAC-AAA8-B3DF5A5EA68E.jpg)

semi poor quality.. but decals on the fuel fill cap

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C081349C-3F05-4794-919F-E5E37065ABA9.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/85D412FA-9A96-4D8A-A262-C47F37DCA706.jpg)

if it appears that there is one black and one white letter decal cap, it's bc the second picture is taken with a flash. that's military grade black reflective tape. appears as a semi gloss black decal in day light, but lights up like tapetum lucidum when hit with a light.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 08, 2016, 12:48:21 AM
Reflective black? Why would they want that?

It all looks good, whats the news on that seat?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on August 08, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
Looks good! Like the console...may have to come up with something like that on my Scout, once I get to where I can work on it again.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 08, 2016, 07:55:30 PM
I can hook you up with a decent scout console.. hahaha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 08, 2016, 08:02:18 PM
what do you do with a perfectly good Reese trailer ball wrench?

..cut it in half. hahah
new transfer case shifter

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B3F9B2DA-10B3-40A0-84D6-5886552B0237.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9E58E64E-0AE8-492B-BF75-BC06EF77E31F.jpg)

and alittle engraving work. had to put the shift pattern somewhere..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A98322A4-14CF-4BDB-8C5A-F76A48ACE097.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/19BE269B-7904-4AD5-9EC6-5672E6B1C165.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 08, 2016, 10:17:11 PM
nice touch
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on August 09, 2016, 10:52:25 AM
nice touch
x2!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on August 09, 2016, 01:52:18 PM
got some work done on the truck this weekend

new 'black out' light.. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/08005D65-FFC9-41E6-99B1-22383AB70294.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6D2B6722-0ACB-4A48-9988-B1D3457C3B2C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/81FACF44-EB12-4738-B2C5-45BBE9CB6C6C.jpg)


That is

NOT

a Black out light ;-)

Creative!...Love it!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on August 09, 2016, 01:53:03 PM
Looks pretty black from here! :P
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 09, 2016, 02:46:17 PM
I mean.. the back side is black??  :-[ hahah.

plus.. it's gonna get a red film over the lens to dull the bright white. make it alittle easier on the natural night vision too. the 40" light bar will get 50% window tint on it to kill the shiny silver backing but not diminish the brightness too badly..

AND.. we just moved it from the house garage to building. all on its own!  the tcase shifter works fantastic as well. placement is great. shifts with ease. perfect clicks. now to install an indicator light in the dash and all is well (already tested the  switch..)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on August 09, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
Love it!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on August 11, 2016, 04:02:01 PM
Fantastic!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 11, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
this weekend/next week inner fenders will be notches to accept batteries (one on either side), prepped, painted and hung. might do quarters as well. I'd really like to pull the front off and replace the front crank seal and timing case seal again. I reused the crank seal and think I kinked it putting it back on last time. (my 1st gen one slipped right on and hasn't leaked a drop.. not so lucky with the PPump) and I only patched the timing case leak with RTV for testing purposes, so I'd love to fix it finally. drain and refill with anti freeze before the winter.. etc.

with front inner fenders and quarters on, fans can be wired with adjustable relay and headlights as well. along with running lights to the front.

bed will be line x'd soon, which means it can be bolted down and have lights run rearward (running and tails) so it's almost down to wiring at this point. need to make sure the solenoid I have is indeed a latching one and not a starting solenoid.. then I'll be on the clear. will have a part number to be run tomorrow.

can't wait to have the bed and can reunited after almost a year!! pics will be coming soon.. I promise. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 14, 2016, 05:43:48 PM
driver side battery tray. there will be an identical one on the passenger side as well.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/4B9C4588-2C4D-42F7-92AE-CE9552A0A374.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/22550DC1-D710-4431-805B-9D747965BD48.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E19E6F0D-B003-4348-957C-8182679D1887.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 15, 2016, 11:59:08 AM
exhuast shield: 5" ceramic coated stainless steel tube with a cap on the top. going to run the 4" pipe up to maybe 6-10" from the top to keep it from flowing out of the lower holes..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E11148A6-15FD-432F-9810-8090F947CC60.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AF68F577-AA91-448C-8862-ACC6428228A5.jpg)

sits just inside the fender flare. the tires will sit ~1" outside the flare with 2" spacers (hummer rims have lots of positive backspacing..)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2A56D249-054B-47D2-9697-3C42B37B6222.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 15, 2016, 12:00:59 PM
and the passenger side battery tray. still needs to be welded in place but that should all come together this week

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C3927402-1FDC-4453-A58B-A0DEEC476769.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 16, 2016, 01:15:57 AM
Is the wood for sound deadening??? 8)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 28, 2016, 07:42:42 AM
of course it's for sound deadening. hahah

disassembly stuff.. just cause. hahah. but really.. has to replace the timing cover gasket.. and since I was in there, replaced front crank seal

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7E3B03DA-5D37-4EAB-8FE9-2BD03634EA01.jpg)

the speedy sleeve is the ticket..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/157A8314-C5DE-45D9-85F7-B1B5BD7648ED.jpg)

and done..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C5043929-DD7F-47A9-8BC9-AC97129E16EB.jpg)

well.. now that it's done. we can continue putting the front together.  my dad got the battery tray/inner fenders welded, seam sealed and painted. so hopefully it'll start falling back together soon
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 28, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
I don't see the killer the killer dowel pin fix on there. Did you do that?

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 28, 2016, 12:44:44 PM
there wasn't a KDP present..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 28, 2016, 12:53:27 PM
I seem to be having some difficulty with the latching solenoid. it's working, but i can't seem understand why. (I know that sounds dense.. hahah)

i have battery in/battery out correctly. and 12 volts to the S terminal. but.. it didn't work that way. I had to ground the I terminal to make it close. and now that it does.. it seems to be warming up. too much. and all it seems to be running is the gauge cluster at the moment. no fans, lights etc.

it's a BWD S5052 if that means anything to anyone.

can't seem to find a solid diagram on how it's supposed to be wired.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 28, 2016, 02:11:54 PM
current (hahah.. get it) situation

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B824DAE4-CD76-48D0-8765-26A0DB496467.jpg)

left large red wire to large lug: from starter/battery
left small red wire from large lug: 12V to switch
bottom small red wire: S terminal/other side of 12V switch
right large red wire from large lug: to fuse block
top small black wire from I terminal to ground
left small black wire going through firewall: fuse block ground
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 28, 2016, 02:43:02 PM
well.. according to Murphy's law (or whose ever it is that says once you buy/say something you either A: find the original part or B: find the bit of info you were missing)

apparently I have it right. just wondering about the temp it got to. I could put my had one it so it was scalding.. but it was warmer than I was expecting I guess is what I'm getting at..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 29, 2016, 08:40:35 PM
alittle bit of progress today.  the front end it mostly back together. both passenger and driver inner fenders and quarters are on. as well as the hood hinges.

real tailgate has been cut in to..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/148D3927-70DD-40D7-9DC0-66EA6556F595.jpg)

these are halo stop/turn/tail lights just like my first gen cummins. with 3 LED white reverse lights

once the intercooler secured in place, the front facia will go on and then the all important grill. hahah. I'm waiting on most of the body to be together before I start wiring the headlights and tail lights so I know what/where I can go with runs
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 31, 2016, 08:17:36 PM
progress!!

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/1BF1892A-BC98-4794-95CB-FC5C14F6B14B.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 31, 2016, 09:12:17 PM
And nice progress it is!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on August 31, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
That grill just makes that front end.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2016, 09:27:24 PM
Yes that is awesome.
Looks great!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on September 01, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
Very cool sir.

I remember this solenoid conversation from before...I think you still need something like this:

https://www.waytekwire.com/item/77025/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwhN-6BRCJsePgxru9iIwBEiQAI8rq8xLP5jZlUTkoFnRrPikjyn2GL3gQeHTs7pwZZdAYipkaArVU8P8HAQ
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 02, 2016, 07:50:28 AM
thanks all.

and I agree with you on the solenoid Ken. I'll most likely get one ordered in the near future. about to head to NYC for a few weeks for work. so the 715 will have do wait a bit for some more parts :/
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 09, 2016, 08:47:45 PM
stuff has been happening.. i've just been lazy on the updates (and my phone keeps telling me that it's full. silly little thing. hahah

top it getting there (more pics to come on it)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B730BACD-CF3E-43EA-BC4E-477BAF1C8DD9.jpg)

also, the bed and body are reuniting.. after nearly a year!
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/BDD3D16C-D755-449E-9E8E-27B72E093E65_1.jpg)

and DONE!!
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7BF04A5C-028C-48B0-8716-180F26863375.jpg)

fully line-x'd bed, tool holders and top (for insulation.. both sound and thermal)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 09, 2016, 08:56:18 PM
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/017F9795-3E26-46BE-976B-85909ADEF64A_1.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 09, 2016, 09:16:06 PM
breather
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A8872F46-B2FF-429D-B414-2082F6C55B56.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/39CA53D2-978A-4365-AA51-0DB0415A1D26.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5D2E12EC-CF2A-4713-9911-C9F2938A2103.jpg)
set of deep cell opimas we picked up used for $92.. total  8)
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/EB9B9F0C-9C94-49A5-871A-55887EE4BA64.jpg)

and.. here is the exhaust shield. i'll work on adjusting the storage i have to get all the pics on here. it's getting down to the short rows now.. just need to wrap it up. can't wait!!
http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/F40C49C8-6E13-4769-81BE-9CD0471A8E81.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/F40C49C8-6E13-4769-81BE-9CD0471A8E81.mp4.html)

also.. after the exhaust was on and diverted further south, i was able to hear the engine cleanly. and i always noticed a funky thumping sound.. but couldn't place it bc the exhaust was right there. but it sounded and felt like it was coming from the oil pan. sure enough.. pulled it off (to change the gasket as well) and there was a knick-ish in the pan from the 2nd cylinder connecting rod cap. the pan was pushed in alittle causing it. so.. put a sand bag under it and knocked it back out with a dead blow, put it back on and fired it up. all the difference in the world. there was some slightly unsettling stuff in the pan.. but it runs so good to be anything major. it was copper ish stuff. but it could be from a rebuild or something (caps were marked 1-6) im not going to worry about it at the moment since it seems to be just fine otherwise. oil pressure it good. doesn't knock (hahaha) but sounds normal. for a 12 valve. 2 of the rod caps had alittle.. and i mean a little.. front to back.. movement. i just can't believe that it's something bad with how it runs. some of it could have been from the gouge in the oil pan.. but the copper is the only thing that really concerned me. we shall see i suppose

any and all input will be appreciated.. as always
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 09, 2016, 10:04:27 PM
I love the stack and you were smiling more than the kid. Wait, you are the kid!!

Could you get a feeler gauge between the rods?

Maybe send out the oil to see what it really is??
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 09, 2016, 10:21:07 PM
that's my dad and his grandson/my nephew. hahah. i didn't try to get a feeler between it. but it definitely wasn't much. there were 4sq/ft of dripping oil on me.. so i was just feeling it all without trying to look directly into oncoming oil. hahah.

i would love to change the oil and send out the oil for testing. but don't even know where to start. it's hard for me to think that it's major.. just bc of how it runs. maybe it'll blow apart tomorrow.. but i highly doubt it. hahah.

what i really want to do is to get another oil pan ($116 from cummins) and have a bung welded to the back of it so i can put a quick drain/lock on it AND get all the oil out of it as well. cummins pans won't let you get the last 3/4" out of the bottom (which i'm thinking might be the cause of the copper in it.. maybe from the oil pickup tube that back drained after new caps..? i really don't know.) so with the back oil bung.. it protects tre quick drain and lets me get it all out.

we shall see soon i'm hoping. i always like changing the oil. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 09, 2016, 11:06:37 PM
Still bet you were smiling big,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just $120 huh? Mine is flattened on the bottom from sitting there. Think they would have used wood to the block base, it is so easy!!

I too like getting ALL the oil out, that sounds like a plan.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 10, 2016, 06:19:24 AM
yes sir. i called the local cummins place and they quoted me $116 for the pan and another $16 for another gasket. not terrible i didn't think. i'll have the new bung welded to the back so that the quick drain will be protected and not hanging straight down.  and the thought was to have it completely done on a new pan, cleaned and painted before we pulled the old one off.. so it would just be a swap and not have to do all that to the old one
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 10, 2016, 10:03:05 AM
Coming together......... nice!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on October 12, 2016, 10:30:24 AM
I really like this build!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 12, 2016, 08:14:57 PM
glad i have SDs approval. however.. i think hes getting jealous and wondering why the M715.9 is running and moving around and hes not. just sayin.. hahaha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 12, 2016, 11:50:31 PM
I think he is busy with turkeys,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 16, 2016, 01:22:43 PM
exhaust shield in place. spaced off correctly to have it plumb.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D1D374AE-C628-460A-A0A5-476B829C8438.jpg)

one optima temporarily hooked up to see how it would do. fired right up the first time. snagged some 2/0 cable from a jobsite to custom cut/make the cables. they'll be paralleled and each having a jumper coming off to cam lok lugs on the front just inboard of the headlights (won't have to open the hood to jump or be jumped)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/617B7598-38B0-4CEA-B8F4-D526ACFCB195.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 16, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
I am jealous for sure. Maybe a little heat shrink on the cables?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 16, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
I am jealous for sure. Maybe a little heat shrink on the cables?

ohh yea.. these are just the ones we had around the house. i'll make some correct length cables to run across to the pass side/jumpers to the cam loks and all will be heat shrinked.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 16, 2016, 08:07:21 PM
How much did you pay for them batteries.  I asked on Friday and they said I'd be $ 189 for the red tops


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 16, 2016, 08:49:12 PM
How much did you pay for them batteries.  I asked on Friday and they said I'd be $ 189 for the red tops


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don't shoot me.. $92 total.  :o

street side auto has red tops for $147 with free shipping
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 16, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Thats good, summit has em for 156 with FS, but sometimes you find a coupon.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 19, 2016, 01:57:45 PM
dual battery setup

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7D8B111A-8060-4565-975D-C2D54BA25816.jpg)

and alternator wired. sitting just at 14 volts. metering 14.15V at the batteries
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2DBECBBF-8441-4366-8E36-5B2CC0C1A19E.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7C63125E-E4A6-48DB-AEEA-4FD108992F82.jpg)

and poll time. where to put the emblem (not in finalizes locations.. just areas. i'm thinking about having an 'M715.9' CNC out of 11 gauge metal in old school jeep font. it would go behind the fender/in front of the door. (if the emblem doesn't go there)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6B59DC99-F4D8-42BD-B3A5-7D0B0B5B93EE.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/1E43BCEF-D346-4DA9-A023-FF4DF06D68BE.jpg)

and alittle walk around.. just for fun hahah
http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/B24440FB-1F77-42DB-9365-D8175C65A415.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/B24440FB-1F77-42DB-9365-D8175C65A415.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 19, 2016, 02:27:13 PM
You probably stated already but what size tires are going to fill up those fender wells again?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on October 19, 2016, 03:02:22 PM
Looks and sounds amazing!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 19, 2016, 03:42:07 PM
Up front, be different.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Wilbur on October 19, 2016, 04:10:04 PM
That is sweet! Nice work!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 19, 2016, 06:25:13 PM
Up front, be different.

the '03-05 cummins' (year models of the emblem) went up front. that's why i'm leaning towards putting it up front. they moved them behind the fender and almost doubled the size of them in '06.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 19, 2016, 06:27:53 PM
You probably stated already but what size tires are going to fill up those fender wells again?

i'm shooting for 37" MTRs from the newer hummers. but it may even end up being 40" toyo open country MTs. the MTRs are readily available at swaps and surplus.

the tires that are pictured measure out to ~35" tall. maybe a hair more. but no where close to 37s
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 19, 2016, 06:33:40 PM
Nice, in my humble opinion if the rollers are measuring 35" I think this needs a 40" tire......
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 19, 2016, 08:18:53 PM
i agree. priority #1 is to get it to run down the road at 60. once my dad sees that and knows it runs.. might be a tad easier to get $2k out of joe pocket for the toyos. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cruizng on October 20, 2016, 08:23:14 AM
Very sweet build. Thumbs up!   :)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 21, 2016, 07:38:34 AM
No emblems. Just me but I hate emblems.  Stealth mode


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on October 21, 2016, 09:15:44 AM
No emblems. Just me but I hate emblems.  Stealth mode


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I second this.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 21, 2016, 10:20:18 AM
I could see that with no emblems. Would look good.

Keep the tire thin for that classic look.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 21, 2016, 11:31:38 AM
$2k for toyos, what rim size??
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2016, 11:34:27 AM
Not even a cool decal for improved aerodynamics???
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 21, 2016, 12:51:08 PM
$2k for toyos, what rim size??

well.. the 40s come in 17", 18" and 20". so i'm going to have to find a set of 17/18s and upsize from the 16.5" hummer rims.

I could see that with no emblems. Would look good.

Keep the tire thin for that classic look.

i'm thinking about having some M715.9 emblems cut from 11 ga sheet metal in the same font as the 62-67 gladiator J200 and J300 fender emblem. in which case, it would go behind the tire/in front of the door. these would be painted semi gloss black. and i'm highly considering cutting 'turbo diesel' off the cummins badge and painting the C semi gloss as well.. with either red or beige lettering. these are all fit and finish/detail.. but i like thinking about them while i'm not able to do physical work on it. hahah. im not sold on the cummins emblems completely.. but they were a good deal and NOS. so i grabbed em.

also.. they're going to have to be at least 12.5" wide.. can't seem to find any tires 37"+ that are less than that. which won't look bad. not going 13.5-15.5 like the TSLs and IROKs come in..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 21, 2016, 01:05:37 PM
Not even a cool decal for improved aerodynamics???

That only works on toolboxes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 21, 2016, 01:28:07 PM
12.5" wide and 40" tall will still look skinny, don't worry about that. I like the old Jeep emblems, and the cummins emblem. While you're fabbing emblems, why not a cummins emblem in the jeep script? something to the effect of "M715.9 powered by Cummins" but in that cool Wagoneer script? Also, what about tires like these?

I was looking at the 700-16 NDT's but couldn't find you anything in 40" or anything that wasn't biasply poly, which suck w/ weight and hwy use.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 21, 2016, 01:36:20 PM
I like the tires and those are surplus now right?

Maybe like this;

   
                                M715.9
                              CUMMINS
                          TURBO DIESEL
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 21, 2016, 05:14:35 PM
I was thinking like this font, reminds me of the old Wagoneer emblems
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 21, 2016, 05:38:30 PM
i like the funky M715.9 in wagoneer script. i'm sure it'll be something of the sort. those are some rather large tires. i'd be ok with them, but bear in mind that this is an old mans (50 yr old.. hahaha ;D) kaiser. i'm thinking we will put a set of 37" hummer MTRs on it and see how they look/ride. ive already prepped him for 40s should the need arise.. but he would like 37s to work. hahah. once i get back from england i'm hoping to wrap up the steering, trans hookups (OD and TC) along with shocks and wiring. stay posted.. and keep shooting ideas at me for emblems.

cheerio!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 21, 2016, 06:01:57 PM
Tom McIntyre at Acsco. There company has made several custom emblems for SEMA builds, and are in CA. 818-953-2247 is his direct line. Tell him Tate at Yukon Gear & Axle recommended him. They can do CAD examples, one offs, you name it. http://www.acsco.net/emblem/inner/Productsemblem.shtml
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 21, 2016, 06:29:36 PM
Tom McIntyre at Acsco. There company has made several custom emblems for SEMA builds, and are in CA. 818-953-2247 is his direct line. Tell him Tate at Yukon Gear & Axle recommended him. They can do CAD examples, one offs, you name it. http://www.acsco.net/emblem/inner/Productsemblem.shtml

that sounds great man. thanks a lot! i'll let you know what he says when i get in touch with him. my dream is to have something someday good enough for a SEMA booth.. but everyone knows that's like making it on the starting 9 in the big leagues.

one day.. who knows

again.. i appreciate it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 21, 2016, 08:50:15 PM
37x13.5x20 are more than $500 each. I sold my set with 60% on one pair and nearly 80% on the other for $950


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 22, 2016, 09:12:35 AM
Not even a cool decal for improved aerodynamics???
Don wants racing stripes I think


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2016, 12:20:18 PM
Not even a cool decal for improved aerodynamics???
Don wants racing stripes I think


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Like my fav car, the 70' SS 454 Chevelle?
Like those?
I could see it...





Well, not really
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 22, 2016, 04:01:26 PM
Not even a cool decal for improved aerodynamics???
Don wants racing stripes I think


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Like my fav car, the 70' SS 454 Chevelle?
Like those?
I could see it...





Well, not really

hahah. i mean.. maybe.

i doubt this thing will ever see 80mph.. let alone need racing strips to be 'cool' lol

speaking of '70 chevelle though.. i am currently helping put together one.. blue with black racing stripes. built 408 motor. TH400 trans. resto interior..

i'll get some pics when it's more complete.

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 26, 2016, 11:16:05 AM
For SEMA, all you really need to do is talk to one of the vendors of the diesel products you have on the motor. Your build is SEMA quality thus far, and I've been every year since 2008, so I have a good perspective. it's the details.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 26, 2016, 04:18:29 PM
For SEMA, all you really need to do is talk to one of the vendors of the diesel products you have on the motor. Your build is SEMA quality thus far, and I've been every year since 2008, so I have a good perspective. it's the details.

dang man.. that means a lot. like.. a whole lot. never thought i'd ever get there. it's reassuring to know that it's there. always been a dream to go at some point. and that's just the assurance i needed.

thanks

now.. to get back to the states and finish the 715! hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on October 26, 2016, 09:00:37 PM
Tate knows.
If you've seen some of the stuff that is shown there, you wouldn't think twice about trying...all it takes is an "In".
...or a bag of money.
For example, there's a shop here in my little city, which has a less than stellar rep, and he's building a 70ish chevy truck, and it's sponsored by PPG paints. That's his "IN". I haven't seen it myself, but I guarantee it's not half as nice as your 715. Guaranteed!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 26, 2016, 09:27:40 PM
Buddy of mine a few years back was telling me about this rock crawler build with 4 link tabs just tack welded in place. Actually a heart surgeon we both knew had bought it this way from sema floor, yes more money than sense....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 27, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
Yup. There are some gems and some turds. yours would be the gem variety
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 27, 2016, 06:44:23 PM
i had no idea. i really appreciate the kind words and votes of confidence. it really would be a dream come true to be there. maybe not with this truck (as cool as it would be) but one of the next. i guess i just need to put some feelers out there and/or change some parts on the cummins. hahah.

y'all really don't know what this means.. just to hear it from someone. gratifying and humbling..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 27, 2016, 06:56:33 PM
i had no idea. i really appreciate the kind words and votes of confidence. it really would be a dream come true to be there. maybe not with this truck (as cool as it would be) but one of the next. i guess i just need to put some feelers out there and/or change some parts on the cummins. hahah.

y'all really don't know what this means.. just to hear it from someone. gratifying and humbling..

For the record, from someone on the product supply side for after market. If you're going to go to the trouble of getting it to SEMA let the vendors help pay for your next build. You can use this build as a show case of past work and get a lot of money and or parts thrown your way. You will have to commit to a timeline and your intent up front but guys who manufacture parts will gladly help you out. Just my 2 cents
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on November 02, 2016, 04:43:07 PM
These are true statements. Anything built and showcased on this forum for example as well.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 02, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
These are true statements. Anything built and showcased on this forum for example as well.

Except SQ D, that build turned into a rolling parts bin...... ::)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 02, 2016, 05:51:07 PM
Except SQ D, that build turned into a rolling parts bin...... ::)

Well, he did use a lot of parts from many companys. Maybe all of them!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on November 02, 2016, 05:58:46 PM
These are true statements. Anything built and showcased on this forum for example as well.

Except SQ D, that build turned into a rolling parts bin...... ::)
Shawn, I think you're going to get fired again!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on November 02, 2016, 07:04:49 PM
Yea, he's on the border (again)

Square D is alive and fine. I'll get back on it, but have more pressing things at the moment (Meaning: the past year!) ???
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 02, 2016, 07:05:16 PM
These are true statements. Anything built and showcased on this forum for example as well.

Except SQ D, that build turned into a rolling parts bin...... ::)
Shawn, I think you're going to get fired again!

Was I rehired after the last incident? Can't recall & I won't ask Don because he had that traumatic injury in front of the family n all so I'm sure he's lost track when you figure that and his age..... ;D
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 02, 2016, 07:12:27 PM
been working on the truck alittle lately. i'll get some pics up tmrw once it all gets placed. mostly little things. accessories. rear view mirrors. good larches. etc. and some cool jumper cable plates. pics and explanation mañana hahaha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 03, 2016, 09:45:15 PM
alittle hoodlatch update

KISS

.. regular looking hole in the hood

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/658ECDA1-C0D5-444E-A881-AA73E0A077FD.jpg)

but wait..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/097BB524-18EF-4673-84B4-974B7E6F995B.jpg)

TAADAAA

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/0AA16202-1ECC-43D0-8F11-2743BE2D7049.jpg)

exterior hood latches

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/843C36EA-FC46-44E9-AB46-ED71796855F8.jpg)

block off plates and jumper cable connections

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6746D103-FF08-4BC5-92C3-F323669D303F.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/CF9721B3-5CED-48F3-B6F0-F6719C1783C0.jpg)

some LED headlight/turn signals

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/DDFFD366-A341-43AF-8890-85D8DE08D3F1.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C06E1624-E57A-4D69-A21A-FDFE742C7787.jpg)

and a close up. bear in mind that they still have the plastic film on them. the smaller 3/4" holes will either be amber running lights or white hazard strobe lights.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/33C41E05-BF84-4943-A2D7-DDA1A679A78C.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 03, 2016, 11:16:05 PM
Looks great


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on November 04, 2016, 11:12:45 AM
Anyone else having issues with seeing the pics?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on November 04, 2016, 12:08:06 PM
yup. nothing cool to look at for me.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 04, 2016, 12:10:23 PM
What happen,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 04, 2016, 12:21:02 PM
I see it ha ha


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on November 04, 2016, 01:12:30 PM
I had them last night but now just boxes.

It looks great once they turn up again!

Edit. Just noticed a bunch of mine are MIA too.
I'm thinking photobucket is having issues, I checked mine and was getting a connection error, no internet connection etc type messages.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2016, 08:51:21 AM
yea.. i got a message like that when i opened up my photobucket earlier. not sure what's happening. hang in there with me, maybe it'll come back. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2016, 10:17:53 AM
most recent.. with the light bar, hood light and headlights (none of it hooked up.. yet)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A6FB9F22-5E9C-4F18-87C2-62430C36FE84.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on November 05, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
most recent.. with the light bar, hood light and headlights (none of it hooked up.. yet)

That looks like a good wallpaper image.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on November 05, 2016, 01:17:34 PM
Looking great!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2016, 03:07:22 PM
most recent.. with the light bar, hood light and headlights (none of it hooked up.. yet)

That looks like a good wallpaper image.

wait until the brush guard is back on and we have a new set of 37" HUMVEE tires w/spacers on the back..  :( hahah

but thank you. it's getting there. slowly but surely
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on November 05, 2016, 03:21:51 PM

wait until the brush guard is back on and we have a new set of 37" HUMVEE tires w/spacers on the back..  :( hahah

but thank you. it's getting there. slowly but surely

I like the tires that are on it. But regardless it looks good. Can't wait to see the end result.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 05, 2016, 04:08:27 PM
Is that a dobi in the background
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 05, 2016, 04:40:28 PM
most recent.. with the light bar, hood light and headlights (none of it hooked up.. yet)

That looks like a good wallpaper image.

wait until the brush guard is back on and we have a new set of 37" HUMVEE tires w/spacers on the back..  :( hahah

but thank you. it's getting there. slowly but surely

Why not just recenter the Humvee wheels to get back spacing you desire?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2016, 05:21:18 PM
got what i thought was a latching solenoid in today.. turns out it's just another starter solenoid. so.. i'm sending it back and have a true latching solenoid (cole hersee 24200) coming in the mail. hopefully will be there before i get back from nyc next week. that, along with borgeson steering components should be at the house soon.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
most recent.. with the light bar, hood light and headlights (none of it hooked up.. yet)

That looks like a good wallpaper image.

wait until the brush guard is back on and we have a new set of 37" HUMVEE tires w/spacers on the back..  :( hahah

but thank you. it's getting there. slowly but surely

Why not just recenter the Humvee wheels to get back spacing you desire?

id love to do that. just not sure where around me does that sort of thing..
that.. and in a year or so i want to go to 17/18s so i can get some 37-40" toyos or nittos for a better ride. the hummer stuff is just to hold us over until then. make sure it all runs correctly
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 05, 2016, 08:32:58 PM
You can weld them in yourself, not hard I've done hundreds & can walk you thru it if needed.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2016, 09:36:57 PM
that would be awesome. do you need to find/buy the new centers or just reuse the ones you cut out? i'll ask and see what he wants/plans for in the future. 16.5" tires are just hard to come by in decent tires (name brand stuff at least.. if that makes sense) it would, however, be nice to have a set of rims that worked/correct backspace that fit hummer tires (easily found in the surplus market)

decisions decisions.. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on November 05, 2016, 11:09:00 PM
most recent.. with the light bar, hood light and headlights (none of it hooked up.. yet)

That looks like a good wallpaper image.

wait until the brush guard is back on and we have a new set of 37" HUMVEE tires w/spacers on the back..  :( hahah

but thank you. it's getting there. slowly but surely

Why not just recenter the Humvee wheels to get back spacing you desire?

id love to do that. just not sure where around me does that sort of thing..
that.. and in a year or so i want to go to 17/18s so i can get some 37-40" toyos or nittos for a better ride. the hummer stuff is just to hold us over until then. make sure it all runs correctly
I did it on the Square D thread

Talk about custom...I'll back Shawn in encouraging you to do it yourself

Know that getting the run flats out of those tires is going to get tough!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 06, 2016, 06:42:01 AM
think you could post which section you did it in? i feel like i remember seeing it now.. just can't remember which of the 200 pages it's on! hahaha.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on November 06, 2016, 11:13:59 AM
think you could post which section you did it in? i feel like i remember seeing it now.. just can't remember which of the 200 pages it's on! hahaha.
It's in Part 3, in around post 156 or so.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 06, 2016, 02:51:27 PM
I saw a guy on youtube pulling the RF out with his truck, using a tree for an anchor. Sure looked easy that way.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 06, 2016, 03:17:56 PM
Two styles of run flats, there are the rubber & the 2 piece magnesium. I always bought the mag style & can verify that you can install them in a 33 x 12.50 bfg, a lot of kicking and not so nice language but they will go in....... ;)

& if you want a custom cut set of centers I can draw them up & have a guy who can cut / ship them to you (flat plate centers).
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 06, 2016, 03:42:19 PM
we have the mag style. so they bolt together i believe. we won't be putting 33s under this  8) lol. i'll ask my dad if he'd like to re center them. bc that would be cool. and make me feel better about riding on them. (no spacers). if the 37" hummer tires look right on the truck.. we will definitely re center and run surplus tires from here on out. if they need to be bigger.. we will have to jump to 17/18" rims to hold 40" toyo/nitto/goodyears (silly manufactures don't make 40s for 16.5" rims  :()

any suggestions on custom center styles? i like the bullet hole style.. but not sure what would look best.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 06, 2016, 06:22:43 PM
I have no personal preference other than I like the styles where the outer edge of the wheel center has no cutouts. With those styles you can welds the full exterior of the center on both sides. They do add some weight to the wheel so a few cut outs will help reduce that to some extent.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 06, 2016, 11:14:51 PM
i completely agree with that.

to change gears (literally.. hahaha) what do y'all think about this for controlling the OD/LU function on the 47rh? https://jet.com/product/detail/7cedfae626f44b05ba54e6aadc38867e?jcmp=pla:ggl:a_nj_dur_gen_vehicles_parts_a2_b2:vehicles_parts_vehicle_parts_accessories_a2_other:na:PLA_627454470_31308594922_pla-156918307740:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&gclid=CKiF6cbildACFUKbNwod3cAF5Q&gclsrc=ds (https://jet.com/product/detail/7cedfae626f44b05ba54e6aadc38867e?jcmp=pla:ggl:a_nj_dur_gen_vehicles_parts_a2_b2:vehicles_parts_vehicle_parts_accessories_a2_other:na:PLA_627454470_31308594922_pla-156918307740:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15&gclid=CKiF6cbildACFUKbNwod3cAF5Q&gclsrc=ds)

the thought is to run 2 of them from the same port. set one to maybe 35-37psi (mph) / and the other to around 48ish? have the grounds that control each solenoid run through a console switch and then thought the PSI switch.. so i could turn them off if desired.. or leave the toggles on all the time to allow the pressure switches to do their thing..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 09:45:23 AM
also.. found some recentered H1 inserts from trail worthy fab. seem like a good price and amazing reviews on both his website and forums alike. seems pretty straightforward after reading dons write up and some quick pic searches.. even got the go ahead from my dad as well. hahah. so i believe they're gonna be on the way soon.

http://www.trailworthyfab.com/H1-Hummer-Bead-Lock-Pressed-Wheel-Centers.html (http://www.trailworthyfab.com/H1-Hummer-Bead-Lock-Pressed-Wheel-Centers.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 07, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
I am still in the air about re-centering mine. Got to see how it looks with balancing versatility.

I like the idea of no PCM for the 47rh. Read up on it and it looks simple with kits to do the whole thing. I have a 46r right now.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
I am still in the air about re-centering mine. Got to see how it looks with balancing versatility.

I like the idea of no PCM for the 47rh. Read up on it and it looks simple with kits to do the whole thing. I have a 46r right now.

a46 would be one less switch! hahah.
i think those NOS safety switches will work for it. PATC sells a kit for $325 ish that actually kicks itself out of LU and OD as needed relating to throttle position. i might start with the NOS switches set to different PSIs for closing grounds.

can anyone confirm that the 47rh shifts 1, 2, 3 OD then LU..?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 07, 2016, 02:10:36 PM
I know you can build it for way less than that. I mean it is just 2-3 pressure switches and relays, right? Set it up with a harness and adjustable PS and you can do adjust as needed.

I can't verify the shift pattern, but that look OK. Think I would like the option of LU in 3rd also though, but that is easy.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 02:17:32 PM
i just read a couple guys breaking input shafts shifting into OD locked up.. but i wanted to make sure that the OD didn't need the extra pressure from the LU to operate. the PATC system also has a $10 cole hersee normally closed pull switch to act as a TPS to kick it out of LU (which i can make work to drive a relay to kick it out..)

you don't want a 47rh do you? i have one in trying to get rid of to swap in that getrag. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 07, 2016, 03:00:00 PM
Well, I am interested as with the upgrades I need it is better to get a whole 47. Hardened input are avail and it has better internal parts.

The 46 has no LU and they all use the same OD unit. What is the output since I have a 205 for mine?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 03:09:32 PM
they're the same output. 23 spline. it's the same trans, but with a locking TC. only you we had to do was machine down the female coupler maybe 1/16" to have it slip in the output shaft seal of the trans. i'll post a pic when i get a minute.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 07, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
I understand and can do that easy. I guess you are to far for an afternoon drive,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on November 07, 2016, 03:17:59 PM
i just read a couple guys breaking input shafts shifting into OD locked up.. but i wanted to make sure that the OD didn't need the extra pressure from the LU to operate. the PATC system also has a $10 cole hersee normally closed pull switch to act as a TPS to kick it out of LU (which i can make work to drive a relay to kick it out..)

you don't want a 47rh do you? i have one in trying to get rid of to swap in that getrag. hahah

You can go this route, IMO the cleanest way,

http://www.bmracing.com/products/70244-converter-lockup-controller-for-gm-automatic-transmissions-using-lockup-style-torque-converters/?mk=&yr=&md=&smd=&eng=

Go to reply #45 to see how it was done

http://ramchargercentral.com/diesel-talk/'de-computerize-your-dodge'/msg2203154/#msg2203154
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 03:20:02 PM
you don't have to do the machining.. can simply pull the seal out. but.. it'll allow fluid to seep into the front housing/adapter for the tcase. figured we go ahead and turn it down a bit. just to keep everything where it was supposed to be AND didn't have to worry about sealing the joint between the 205 adapter and OD of 47rh.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/1CA262B2-E11B-4B2F-ABC5-5C20A59A6AC6.jpg)

and i guess that all depends on how long you wanna sit in a truck. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 03:21:10 PM
not sure why some stuff is posting twice. just deal with it.. hahaha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 03:37:19 PM
that B&M setup is awesome. the last i read he was ordering it to see if it worked. and it did!!

so that's fantastic. which also means that i might do this swap on my 1st gen.. JR, hurry up and come get it so i can do the 5 speed swap! hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 04:02:11 PM
but now.. i have to find a speedo cable for this bad boy to work. anybody.. anybody..? hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 07, 2016, 04:18:48 PM
Well, maybe we can find someone making a trip out to ca somewhere? Hwy 80 and 10 are the main routes and I have friends down in the LA area and I am in the Sac area.

Just don't see a trip like that right now with all 3 kids in school, sports and scouts. Not that wouldn't love a nice road trip!! been years,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Speedo, that should be easy.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on November 07, 2016, 04:32:35 PM
So if JR doesn't want it are you serious about selling it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 04:48:13 PM
everything is for sale.. hahah

but really.. yes sir. i can't see needing it in the near future. esp if you have something for it to go in asap
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on November 07, 2016, 07:59:17 PM
but now.. i have to find a speedo cable for this bad boy to work. anybody.. anybody..? hahah

Unless you need the cable for a speedo or wan to remote mount the sender you can use the supplied jumper that comes with that kit.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 07, 2016, 08:07:06 PM
but now.. i have to find a speedo cable for this bad boy to work. anybody.. anybody..? hahah

Unless you need the cable for a speedo or wan to remote mount the sender you can use the supplied jumper that comes with that kit.

i need the cable to drive the autometer speedo on the dash. so the search continues..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 08, 2016, 07:32:55 AM
but now.. i have to find a speedo cable for this bad boy to work. anybody.. anybody..? hahah

Unless you need the cable for a speedo or wan to remote mount the sender you can use the supplied jumper that comes with that kit.

i need the cable to drive the autometer speedo on the dash. so the search continues..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 08, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
heater mocked up..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/5CEC7DDB-9410-4129-AFF4-D31CFD78FF8D.jpg)

i love getting pics like this from my dad. makes me want to get back home and get this on the road. once i get backing. taking it to town to wire it in a big warehouse where the scouts are.. can't wait
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on November 08, 2016, 02:33:48 PM
^^^ See that

Something no one under the age of 50 has ever seen

Room under the dash!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 08, 2016, 03:21:02 PM
^^^ See that

Something no one under the age of 50 has ever seen

Room under the dash!!!!!!!!!!!!

there's enough room to stuff MULTIPLE cats under the dash.. not that i've tried or done any sort of scientific research to confirm a number. but will if there is enough interest in it..  ;D hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 09, 2016, 09:16:45 AM
order placed to borgeson. needle bearing vibration damper u joint for the steering box, telescoping 3/4"x1" DD shaft and 3/4"DD-1"DD u joint for the column. should be in by the end of week. fingers crossed
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on November 09, 2016, 11:44:51 AM
^^^ See that

Something no one under the age of 50 has ever seen

Room under the dash!!!!!!!!!!!!

there's enough room to stuff MULTIPLE cats under the dash.. not that i've tried or done any sort of scientific research to confirm a number. but will if there is enough interest in it..  ;D hahah

ANSWER:  Whatever the number, it's NOT ENOUGH!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 09, 2016, 03:39:38 PM
more progress. she can almost drive in the cold now!! hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/95141503-88C0-4D87-BEA4-8567CC90802A.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on November 10, 2016, 02:56:55 PM
Looking real good!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 10, 2016, 05:03:34 PM
finalized location for plate/heater

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/336C927E-2B61-49C2-B4C4-74863E2D6B7A.jpg)

inside

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/7DC0087E-252B-4BB5-AC4B-ECFCD494607E.jpg)

possible windshield..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/27F3C78B-014A-4D96-AD5C-CF52BEB5BDCE.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F6A24A2C-A426-4929-90D7-DC6C2FFF11C6.jpg)

borgeson components came in today..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9C4CB1DF-B13B-423A-8FC8-5C1CE1AEF89E.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/FA9B7D59-16B2-49C6-910C-9F89DC5797CC.jpg)

collapsed

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E160BC70-A735-4C13-A2F7-F72F3482AED3.jpg)

extended

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/78E6B64A-2C19-4ABB-AC80-1C4BA17ED774.jpg)

side by side comparison of old and new

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/32DEC8BF-69DE-4218-AB92-A3C7BC125494.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 10, 2016, 05:09:58 PM
Looks great and no more rag joint!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 10, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
cleaned off end of steering shaft (sans crappy little square alignment nuts for coupler)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/28E5C592-E019-4FD4-BE69-8623A9591CE7.jpg)

knocked out pin and removed sheath

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C976B1DF-A36A-4B00-AF56-CF696DF457BD.jpg)

much better than stock.. if i do say so myself

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/203515CD-4C7A-4B89-8984-7BA9BAC63A18.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on November 10, 2016, 10:11:11 PM
Tell your pops that they actually make smaller heater hose clamps.....they come in all different sizes! Haha
Sorry,  that's the only thing I could find that would fit my smart butt agenda. ;)

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 10, 2016, 10:19:20 PM
hahahaha. touché

i noticed that too

he's so excited to see an end to this.. i think he wants to get it driving.. then go back and touch up some details.

it's so close..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 11, 2016, 03:15:28 PM
That light bar is growing on me.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 12, 2016, 09:12:38 AM
That light bar is growing on me.

thank you sir. it's going to have the least dark (50-75%) window tint that i can find just to knock down on that sliver/white glare and make it disappear alittle (don't want to look too modern..) and some red film for the 4" round light on the hood for good night vision when riding down farm paths..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on November 12, 2016, 04:19:12 PM
thank you sir. it's going to have the least dark (50-75%) window tint that i can find just to knock down on that sliver/white glare and make it disappear alittle (don't want to look too modern..) and some red film for the 4" round light on the hood for good night vision when riding down farm paths..

Adding a red filter isn't going to help guide the way. It'll help you from losing your natural night vision (yes Chief I know fancy pilots like blue-green or cornflower blue or something fancy like that), but won't give you much advance warning.. Unless that light is ridiculously bright then disregard.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 12, 2016, 05:51:56 PM
thank you sir. it's going to have the least dark (50-75%) window tint that i can find just to knock down on that sliver/white glare and make it disappear alittle (don't want to look too modern..) and some red film for the 4" round light on the hood for good night vision when riding down farm paths..

Adding a red filter isn't going to help guide the way. It'll help you from losing your natural night vision (yes Chief I know fancy pilots like blue-green or cornflower blue or something fancy like that), but won't give you much advance warning.. Unless that light is ridiculously bright then disregard.

this will be for very low speed travel <15mph. and just to look cool. the 40" bar and LED headlights should throw a significant enough beam when traveling at warp speed. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on November 12, 2016, 08:36:23 PM
this will be for very low speed travel <15mph. and just to look cool. the 40" bar and LED headlights should throw a significant enough beam when traveling at warp speed. hahah

Ah nice. Disregard my previous then. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 13, 2016, 09:55:28 AM
so.. in his haist, my dad miscounted the splines on the vibration damper for the steering box. and the u joint is now painted cummins beige. no returns on painted items, so if any of y'all need a
3/4" DD x 3/4" 36 spline borgeson vibration damper ujoint.. let me know.

i guess i should have known that it was 30 since it's off a FSJ.. but he was at the house and i in NYC and said it was the same as what came off originally.

either way.. part is in hand and never used. just painted.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 13, 2016, 11:23:04 AM
on second thought, the 3/4" 36 spline fits the first gens steering box (i believe) just not sure about the shaft size of the steering rod. if it's 3/4", i can make it a 3/4"DD and put the damper on the end and call it a day.

can anyone with a 1st gen confirm that for me? (still out of town.. but it seems as if the steering box is 3/4" 36 spline)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 13, 2016, 08:33:10 PM
decent looking piece of hardware..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/83630FB3-A83D-47CC-9A6E-6EEA86C63144.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B8228C09-A0D9-49CC-8B78-BDB88A4B92F3.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 15, 2016, 05:05:31 PM
FINALLY got the cole hersee lockout solenoid in the mail and talked my dad through how to hook it up. with a momentary 12V pulse, it locks. and the next pulse unlocks it. flawless.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/6620042D-8437-4B1F-954D-0DBF187CA717.jpg)

alittle 'in action' vid..

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/7DF4845B-222A-4646-9169-470ADBB1438E.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/7DF4845B-222A-4646-9169-470ADBB1438E.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 20, 2016, 09:34:38 PM
loaded her up and took her to town for alittle wiring party..

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F763ACEC-EA6B-4081-9815-EB19FDDB5F2D.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C991985B-A08B-401C-B9EC-D83BE1745AD2.jpg)

nothing flew off going down the road.. so that's a good thing. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 20, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Lettin it breath a little. Those tire almost do look to small, maybe its from sitting down in the trailer.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 20, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
they're definitely too small. those are worn out 36s. measure out to about 35". it needs hummer 37s or even some toyo open country MT 40s  8) hahah

first, i want to get it wired and running down the road at a decent clip (40ish lol) then comes tires..

stay tuned..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 21, 2016, 06:54:50 PM
started on the wiring today. got the headlights (hi/lo) wired. rear running lights (halo, like the dodge) and turn signals (correct flasher will be in tmrw to confirm operation) the front halo running lights/turn signals don't work as of yet bc the harness itself from the factory doesn't seem to be wired correctly. so, going to see about getting them swapped out for an operational one. it going to run rear cab running lights (3 centers) and the 2 outsides tomorrow, with the outer ones being run through a tailight converter so as to function as running and turn signals (same with the front 2 over the jumper cable cam loks) and do the reverse lights as well. then it's hood light, light bar and rear work light along with trans switches. may even get it down the road a bit tomorrow. who knows!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 23, 2016, 06:04:53 AM
alittle preview of today's work. doesn't look like much. the taillights are operational as well.. but without a stop switch (just on a master kill, dukes of hazard style.. hahah)

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/843C5030-4D2A-4EEC-B1AE-85B6049E07E4_1.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/843C5030-4D2A-4EEC-B1AE-85B6049E07E4_1.mp4.html)


cab corner run/turn lights are next. then reverse and aux work lights. then trans OD and LU and heater. might take it down the road to see if it shifts at least through a couple gears today. haha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: kampfitt on November 23, 2016, 11:19:39 AM
Nice job!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 23, 2016, 01:08:59 PM
SOP
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 23, 2016, 10:41:41 PM
front demo vid (rear one is being slow and won't upload before bedtime and quack hunting in the AM..)

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/4EF8FF17-BB7F-42F0-A5FE-F0AA81BE7628.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/4EF8FF17-BB7F-42F0-A5FE-F0AA81BE7628.mp4.html)



and trying to be cool like all the heli-kopter peeps..

switches for days
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/89CC31F5-05AB-4D43-95C3-AF7D9178D70B.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on November 23, 2016, 10:59:04 PM
Very nice progress
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on November 24, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
OOOOH, We like switches...
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on November 28, 2016, 04:07:55 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on November 28, 2016, 05:08:45 PM
front demo vid (rear one is being slow and won't upload before bedtime and quack hunting in the AM..)

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/4EF8FF17-BB7F-42F0-A5FE-F0AA81BE7628.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/4EF8FF17-BB7F-42F0-A5FE-F0AA81BE7628.mp4.html)



and trying to be cool like all the heli-kopter peeps..

switches for days
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/89CC31F5-05AB-4D43-95C3-AF7D9178D70B.jpg)

Looks awesome! More importantly, did you get any ducks??
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 28, 2016, 06:18:23 PM
alittle bit of motion..

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/2C770666-4DC8-443C-B45A-EB07E9F08EAA.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/2C770666-4DC8-443C-B45A-EB07E9F08EAA.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 28, 2016, 06:20:53 PM
front demo vid (rear one is being slow and won't upload before bedtime and quack hunting in the AM..)

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/4EF8FF17-BB7F-42F0-A5FE-F0AA81BE7628.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/4EF8FF17-BB7F-42F0-A5FE-F0AA81BE7628.mp4.html)



and trying to be cool like all the heli-kopter peeps..

switches for days
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/89CC31F5-05AB-4D43-95C3-AF7D9178D70B.jpg)

Looks awesome! More importantly, did you get any ducks??

a clean pair of mallards and a drake woodie @ ~10 yds or so.. batting cleanup/right hand passing shot for my buddy.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on November 28, 2016, 06:33:40 PM
I've got about 100k snow geese out here in the Skagit valley I could use a hand with. puddle ducks are way out in the bays with the warmer weather, but once it gets nice and cold they'll start in on the harvested corn and wheat fields.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 28, 2016, 09:27:49 PM
you just make the call and i'm there..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2016, 03:52:37 PM
finally was able to get the rear ligh vid uploaded

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/E05EF980-9BF3-4BBE-8038-3EED5470B984_1.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/E05EF980-9BF3-4BBE-8038-3EED5470B984_1.mp4.html)

had a lot going on lately and got called out of town unexpectedly this weekend. so hopefully my dad can get them bushings and front shims at least ordered and possibly put on.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on December 11, 2016, 06:33:48 PM
Says not there?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on December 11, 2016, 08:32:16 PM
I seen it.
Looks great. Nice additional rear lighting.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 11, 2016, 09:26:11 PM
maybe this one will work..

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/E05EF980-9BF3-4BBE-8038-3EED5470B984.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/E05EF980-9BF3-4BBE-8038-3EED5470B984.mp4.html)

thanks. those corner marker/turn lights were a bit tricky.. but i think more than worth it.
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Post by: JR on December 11, 2016, 11:42:43 PM
That works, looks good.
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Post by: cruizng on December 12, 2016, 11:14:29 AM
maybe this one will work..

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/E05EF980-9BF3-4BBE-8038-3EED5470B984.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/E05EF980-9BF3-4BBE-8038-3EED5470B984.mp4.html)

thanks. those corner marker/turn lights were a bit tricky.. but i think more than worth it.

Very nice.. really like the touch of adding the lights on the back of the cab. Thumbs up!
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Post by: cj7ox on December 12, 2016, 02:48:58 PM
Looks good! I really light the back-up with the spot.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 29, 2016, 06:06:00 AM
quick update while we await the arrival of the front axle shims

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/EB93BEB1-E9C3-4ECF-AED4-41A980017A51.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/3373033B-AB4E-4671-9ED1-DCF399F2C844.jpg)

identical dimensions to the original, without the 3/8" rod covering where the grill is and out of slightly heavier material. just mocked up for now.. needs some mounting tabs and some black paint to finish it out.
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Post by: Flyin6 on December 29, 2016, 09:14:26 AM
Very nice!
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Post by: cj7ox on December 29, 2016, 02:07:13 PM
Looks good! I'm really digging the whole look of the front end. Love it!
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Post by: BobbyB on December 29, 2016, 03:43:11 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 31, 2016, 11:27:07 AM
front shims came in. i'm at the beach, but my dad is working on getting them installed as well as rear spacers for the rear axle/tires. updates to come..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 04, 2017, 09:42:59 PM
oh man oh man OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN oh man oh man oh man ...i

see that. doppler effect.. with words hahaha

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/5A5CDE1B-0A16-4C5F-8655-B8ACE52C6D9A_1.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/5A5CDE1B-0A16-4C5F-8655-B8ACE52C6D9A_1.mp4.html)

http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/10FEEF4C-86EF-4633-9324-7B977D39600F.mp4.html (http://s620.photobucket.com/user/swbhobie16/media/10FEEF4C-86EF-4633-9324-7B977D39600F.mp4.html)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 04, 2017, 09:53:01 PM
the issue now is.. a rather substantial trans fluid leak. between the trans and tcase, in what should be an empty void in the adapter.

we machined down the coupler from the output shaft is the 47rh to the input of the NP205 and the guy told us he chucked the outside of the coupler, not the interior/spline/rotational center of it and it's off by .010".. which  either worn out an already tired seal or torn/knicked it going in. either way, it's coming out of there pretty steadily..

so.. tcase has to come off and get the other end of the coupler turned down chucked on the inside and replace the 47rh output seal. what's another days worth of labor.. huh? hahah

i still need to correctly adjust the TV cable. it's shifting from 1-2 around 6-9 mph (guessing) then immediately into 3rd. like.. immediately. fairly certain it's not tight enough.. but how tight is too tight? still need to mount the OD and LU switches (they're wired, just not mounted) and then fix the leak, then test the last 2 trans switches.

if i'm thinking correctly, 1st should run to maybe 10-12 mph, then 2nd to 20ish, and 3rd to whenever he decides to hit OD (maybe 40) then LU after that.

do those 1-3 numbers sound like a good goal?

also.. definitely need tires. (not that i didn't already know that..) but the front pass tire is 'wobbling' 1/4"-5/16" (measured from a fixed point in the shop to side wall of the tire)  so yea.. hahaha
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on January 05, 2017, 09:45:26 AM
But, it runs and moves down the road under its own power! Nice!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 07, 2017, 05:53:51 AM
that it does. first things first.. will be addressing the trans leak. my suspicion is either A:coupler was machined down by chucking the outside and not inside (causing .010" wobble) and leaking past or
B: (and more likely given the amount and flow rate of leak) the coupler wasn't machines far enough down the exterior, allowing the shoulder to come forward until the trans output shaft hit the snap ring inside the coupler which could have eaten the lip of the seal.. causing massive damage to sealing surface. just have to get in there and figure it out.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on January 10, 2017, 07:11:05 PM
if you haven't gotten the LU and OD take a look at this unit also,

https://www.hgmelectronics.com/products-compushift-controllers/csm-chrysler

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Post by: JR on January 10, 2017, 07:36:36 PM
Nice product and price.
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Post by: swbhobie16 on January 12, 2017, 11:16:07 PM
man i like that. seems as if i ran across that awhile back.. but never saved it. i think once we are able to get it speed, no wobbles. decent tires. and minimal to no leaks, that will be a 'must have' for daily driving.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 12, 2017, 07:47:58 AM
did alittle detail work on the kaiser the other day

35% ceramic tint

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E5001B7A-A00D-4110-A503-CCC3B8A6CA4F.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AD9ED0B6-ACD3-4E6C-969D-103E74ACB67C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/3366AE4D-BCEB-4C6C-B7BF-8020AEAD3DD9.jpg)

before worklight had headlight tint applied (like the polaris)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/79A6CA53-A4D0-4C9E-A8E3-2B8F906D464C.jpg)

and after

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/1F5E97C8-635D-422D-B06C-06DE47CCADC9.jpg)

hoodlight (started out as same as rear work light color)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2302901C-C307-475B-ACCA-3C32128235E9.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F24E811F-F1A3-499F-AD81-0F911ADD9A7A.jpg)

the lightbar will get the same window tint as the worklight and 4wheeler lights once i return.

we also set the TV cable, but later realized that the ppump injection pump throttle bracket and lever weren't set to factor spec before we started adjusting the TV cable. so.. i have to set the accel pivot stud to back of bracket where the cable comes through to 5" (currently at 5.25") which is throwing the TV cable off and not allowing me to get full travel from it/high/hard enough shift points either..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on February 12, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
Looks good. What all is left on the punch list?


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 12, 2017, 09:23:00 AM
rear metal panel/glass.
window to b pillar metal corners. to close the cab up.
windshield epoxied and Z channeled on. (new glass cut, what's there is just lexan).
alignment
i want to put a deep trans pan on/fluid flush and band adjustment at the trans shop
OD and LU switches mounted.
heater hooked to 12 volt switched (already installed and proven to work)
heater ducts run (1 to a manifold in the console under the dash to act as floor heat. and another duct     
   run to the defroster/driver side dash vent for driver head heat.) i believe the heater will smoke you     
   out of the single cab, bit id like to have at least one duct to blow on your chest/head on driver side
brake light switch installed (currently on a toggle. lol)
dyna mat inside of doors/center console to kill a lot of rattle/clank when shutting doors and shifting     
   gears
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 12, 2017, 09:23:44 AM
ohh.. and shocks. front and rear. that's a big one. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 12, 2017, 01:20:57 PM
Looks good.

I would love to see a how to on the tranny rebuild. (or a good link)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 12, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Looks good.

I would love to see a how to on the tranny rebuild. (or a good link)

let's not speak that evil just yet. hahaha. i'm hoping it's alright. just needs some adjusting/resealing i'm hoping. will keep you posted on progress though.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 12, 2017, 03:49:50 PM
lightbar done

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/24335617-135B-4158-A0B4-BAFB355C6700.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AE7BA76F-475D-4AAF-A723-A1935952233A.jpg)

knocks down just enough to work

really liking the stance from the front now

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F78C50DB-83B3-4AB9-B21D-4BC396C60F23.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 12, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
Mine may be OK too, just don't know. When I got it the flywheel was sheared.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 24, 2017, 07:27:57 PM
most recent pic. brush guard painted and on. front shocks installed and according to my dad 'made a huge difference'. well no kidding.. considering it was just leaf springs before. lol.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/0AAE8D31-D45D-4AB7-85AB-D604E29C0410.jpg)

needs trans bands adjusted. fluid flushed and replaced when we put the deep B&M pan on it (will also be able to hook up trans temp gauge too) rear shocks. the last 2 trans switches mounted and a rear glass/metal panel. along with some sound deadening in the doors, dash and console.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: BobbyB on February 24, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Mrwoody on February 24, 2017, 10:42:27 PM
So we never did hear the cause of the trans leak. Any updates?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 25, 2017, 06:58:21 AM
when we machined the coupler down to fit in the output shaft seal of the 47rh, i failed to realized/think about the fact that the inside of the splined coupler was hollow. so, we had a good seal around the outside.. but fluid could just run right through the middle!!  :facepalm: so.. we pulled the tcase off, cleaned out the tcase adapter and RTVd the 6 bolt round mating surface well. reinstalled the case, let it dry over night. and VUALA.. no more leak. just had to put some more trans fluid in it. but i don't want to drive it any more without having the bands adjusted/inside inspected. new fluid and a deep pan with trans temp gauge installed.

then there are a few oil leaks on the motor. i believe they are all fairly easy fixes. seems to be the turbo drain line to block seal, 2 on the power steering pump (oil drain line and the seam where the PS pump mates to the vacuum pump) and maybe the timing pinn seal. none are spewing.. just oozing. and i'd like them fixed before driving daily.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 25, 2017, 10:59:57 AM
Glad all the leaks were nothing major. Sure pulling the T case was no fun though.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 25, 2017, 09:31:46 PM
it actually wasn't to bad with a floor jack with transmission adapter and some 4x4 blocks and a short ratchet strap. just jigged it up, strapped it down and pulled it back apart. not too bad at all.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on March 02, 2017, 11:34:27 AM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 10, 2017, 02:30:08 PM
adjusted the ppump throttle bracket location (supposed to be 5" from center of stud to back of throttle cable bracket where it 'plugs' in) and didn't adjust the TV cable from where it was (which in turned tightened it up..) so the trans shifted like it was supposed to.. or at least according to my dad.. when he drove it up the path the load on the rollback to take to the trans shop. going to get it looked at when the pan is off. TV correctly set, new filter and gasket. deep oil pan with trans temp sending unit and filled back up with ATF.

she's coming together..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on March 10, 2017, 03:20:29 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 16, 2017, 12:33:01 PM
small update.




an unauthorized 2" hole appeared in the passenger side of the block.



500k mile 5.9 build to follow..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on March 16, 2017, 12:36:38 PM
Oof! That's got to be hard on your fuel mileage.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 16, 2017, 12:44:52 PM
Oof! That's got to be hard on your fuel mileage.

well..considering the ol gal won't even make 1 revolution, id say 0mpg is all that's possible.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on March 16, 2017, 01:12:59 PM
Dang man. That's a rough setback. Sorry to hear it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 16, 2017, 02:00:33 PM
Ouch, any idea why? Pics please.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on March 16, 2017, 02:08:17 PM
That sucks!!!


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 16, 2017, 02:36:25 PM
i'm traveling back from TX today. been in austin for SXSW with work.. so i haven't even seen it yet. transmission guy called and told me about it 2-3 days ago.

apparently it threw a rod. not sure if it's wrist pin or bearing end.

but i've already got a builder lined up.. so hopefully it'll get started soon. shooting for a solid, reliable, 300-350 hp truck with daily driving abilities and time tested components. only 'upgrades' it will be receiving will be 60lb valve springs, 3200/4k GSK, balanced rotating assembly and the 90hp nozzles that are supposedly in it (going to have them pop tested while it's apart). no reason this one should do anything weird. builder is a local guy who teaches diesel mechanics at a local tech/comm college that i bought some stuff off of last year.

guess that means the engine will get a new paint job.. so that's a plus. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 16, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
Sounds like how I want mine setup, but maybe a little more with turbo.

Funny how it never was an issue until the tranny guy got it?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Wilbur on March 16, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
dang sorry to hear that....that's not good.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 16, 2017, 04:52:01 PM
So, the trans guy blew it up, or it blew up while the trans guy was driving (samesame)? Ouch
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 16, 2017, 09:53:30 PM
he's a fairly reputable guy in town (not a very large city) and knows me from previous work.. so i doubt it was something they did specifically. i can't know 100% that the guy that was driving it didn't do anything to make it mess up.. but i have to have alittle faith in ppl. i'm too young to be to cynical. lol. and on top of that, if it was going to blow with alittle too much skinny pedal.. i'd rather find out now than when my dad was driving it. bc at least now it seems like 'well.. it was going to happen' instead of 'what did we do wrong' ya know?

and on top of all that, we will end up with basically an brand new motor. so i can gripe and complain all i want, but in the end it will be done right. i just have so much in front of me right now it may and to take a seat at the  back until i can get some other things shuffled out of the way/completed. if my engine builder comes through, all i'll have to do is pull it with a fork lift and deliever it one day for head and IP removal/work. and go pick it back up when it's done. slip it back in and fire her up.. we will see how well/quickly that is able to happen..

fingers crossed
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 16, 2017, 10:31:53 PM
Great attitude. Se la vie. Look forward to updates


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on March 16, 2017, 11:48:06 PM
Yah, didn't mean to sound negative towards the guy. It was more of, I would have hated to been in his shoes and have to make that phone call to you.
... it would be great to find out what caused it though.

Sent from a spaceship

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 17, 2017, 11:05:00 AM
my mom went up there to look at it while i was still in texas and when she talked to the guy, he said he was dreading calling me to tell me just bc of how hard we had worked on it and the fact that he had kids/what a crushing blow it would be to hear that.

he genuinely is a nice guy and i'm pretty sure he would come forward if it was his fault. i just don't think there was anything that anyone could have done to prevent it.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 17, 2017, 11:14:38 AM
Still a tough deal, sounds like he is OK. End line is you think he's honest, thats enough for me.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: tlane3546 on March 19, 2017, 04:41:27 PM
 JR,
Is this the thread you wanted me to look at?


Lane
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 19, 2017, 06:26:19 PM
Yep, this is what I was referring to.

Waiting for pics of the real damage.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 19, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
will hopefully have them tomorrow or tues at the latest. will get good pics once it's out. but will try to get some as soon as i get to the truck
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 21, 2017, 08:03:43 PM
here's the damage y'all have been waiting for..

passenger side
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/3596FF1D-29CA-4B8F-AE54-45D1D203E5B5.jpg)

drivers side
(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D3FF984C-2C57-4236-A8CE-0DE1947BB51F.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on March 21, 2017, 08:12:31 PM
Looks like that rod did a number...
But like you said, better now than later.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 21, 2017, 08:18:13 PM
That is some tough luck!

Sorry that happened...
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 21, 2017, 08:42:16 PM
Ouch, both sides to boot!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 22, 2017, 02:23:41 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear.

Looks like the motor mount was too tight. :-)


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 22, 2017, 06:56:29 PM
Wow. Sorry to hear.

Looks like the motor mount was too tight. :-)


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that's exactly what it was! i should have known..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 22, 2017, 07:05:04 PM
To tight on the block or squeezing it?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 22, 2017, 07:30:43 PM
i was being facetious. hahah. i highly doubt that was it. using factory mounts and isolators.. just about identical to the way they came in a 96 cummins
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 23, 2017, 12:08:23 AM
You got me. That rod really did a job. Need pictures of inside when you get there.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on March 23, 2017, 11:00:36 AM
Don't worry JR, had me going too. Better go get the metal stretcher and fill that blinker fluid :knucklehead:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Don't worry JR, had me going too. Better go get the metal stretcher and fill that blinker fluid :knucklehead:
Blinkers have fluid???








;-)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 23, 2017, 11:16:43 AM
Oh no, lets not talk about fluids!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on March 23, 2017, 11:24:54 AM
And make sure to check your muffler bearings...
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on March 23, 2017, 06:32:12 PM
Perhaps the antenna didn't have enough RF grease.....


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 23, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
Perhaps the antenna didn't have enough RF grease.....


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The plastic one?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: rpar86 on March 23, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
Don't worry JR, had me going too. Better go get the metal stretcher and fill that blinker fluid :knucklehead:
Blinkers have fluid???


;-)

Mine does -- maybe that's because i crunched the tail light last year and it filled with rain...

Backup light, too.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 25, 2017, 09:07:22 PM
i know this is what y'all have been waiting for.

carnage pics

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2420A071-FB5A-4B76-9A19-6769E0A68C47.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/C1F6457E-7026-4157-9A29-2B984F29C008.jpg)

these things are supposed to be together lol

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AD233B6D-0D53-4946-A2E5-F1AA0130F905.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/1083973C-A30E-498F-928E-16CC26AEBCBF_1.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/F49D36A6-F69C-4333-906F-3E7B015D75FC.jpg)

that's a connecting rod jammed against the driver side block, breaking the cam at the same time.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/DFB4C55D-4AA3-4A3E-A079-10959E5D12EF.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E94F1ECD-C698-4AF6-9728-D5C33A11F43F.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/213B9751-6B30-4A8A-A2E7-380F6522E03A.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B49F7512-4AF3-476C-97E9-7F8A424885AC.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bob Smith on March 25, 2017, 09:17:19 PM
Darn, I hate it when that happens...a few days wrenching and a new block and you should be good to go
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 25, 2017, 09:20:57 PM
i sure hope so. pulled the engine without pulling the front core support/fascia off. it was alittle tight and will have to finish disassembling the front to put the motor back in (easier access to 'stuff' with more room)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 25, 2017, 09:30:04 PM
Wow, that is nasty!!

So it took out the cam too? Looks like the crank got hot also.

You hear about this so rarely. Any idea on what happened?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 25, 2017, 10:02:35 PM
cam is in 4 pieces. the 2 lobes in #4 cylinder are independent. leaving the from 3 cylinders connected and the rear 2. hahah.

best we can figure: 1 connecting rod bearing cap bolt backed completely out. which allowed for the cap to 'stretch' apart.. wiping out the bearing. after a couple revs (not many i assure you) second connecting rod bearing cap bolt bent and let loose.. jamming the cap in pass side. the connecting rod pendulumed and when the turbo pressure went in through the intake valve, pushed the piston down the cylinder, allowing the connecting rod journal on the crank to make contact with it, pushing it to the drivers side, and wedging itself in tight. at the same time wiping the cam out.. and making it impossible to move via the harmonic balancer.

we had to pull the pan, jiggle the cam lobes loose (push rods and lifters fell out also.. nearly hitting my dad in the noggin) then using a 2' pry bar, had to jamb it between the DS block and connecting rod bearing journal to pry it against the crank to get it to turn so we could get the torque converter bolts out.

7 hrs start to finish. but it's out and sitting on the stand (sweet score from the 4bt purchase) and awaiting transport to greensboro where it'll be worked on/built
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 25, 2017, 11:34:44 PM
Great work on getting it out fast. To bad you had too.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on March 29, 2017, 08:38:16 PM
well these showed up today. ordered them when i was in texas and before i found out the motor blew. was dyooosed to be an 'it's running!' surprise for my dad.

but.. they're still cool.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E79C35BF-3055-46A2-A772-100EE3771D90_1.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on March 29, 2017, 11:49:22 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 07, 2017, 10:34:59 PM
blown motor is at the guys shop who will be doing the tear down/reassembly and the block is being measured at the machine shop for parts to be ordered. hope to have something done by the end of next week.. even if it's just parts ordered.

we shall see
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on May 11, 2017, 01:46:16 PM
Any news?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 11, 2017, 11:16:03 PM
engine builder said he was hoping to have the machine work wrapped up this week. which means next week is assembly. have to finish a house in less than 10 days, move my fiancée and continue wedding planning until mid june. hoping to get a day or two to install it fairly soon. guess it depends on how things are moving along. we will see..

stay tuned, hope to have pics and/or better updates by next week
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 27, 2017, 11:49:00 PM
non photo accompanied update.

builder has the block. all the parts, sans the intake/exhaust springs (60#) and a set of 4k gov springs are in his possessions. they are ordered and en route to his house. hoping to have a completed engine by next weekend.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 28, 2017, 12:08:46 AM
Blown motor and still faster than me or SD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just sayin!!!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 28, 2017, 12:22:10 AM
Blown motor and still faster than me or SD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just sayin!!!!

i didn't want to be the one to say it.. glad someone else did!! hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 28, 2017, 06:31:28 PM
You people thrive on:

1. The suspense

2. Gossipin'

3. DOTn'

4. Pokin on SD or its builder... :undecided:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on May 28, 2017, 09:55:11 PM
You people thrive on:

1. The suspense

2. Gossipin'

3. DOTn'

4. Pokin on SD or its builder... :undecided:

AND,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on May 29, 2017, 10:32:22 AM
Nothing...

Just pointing that out! ;-)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 29, 2017, 04:38:09 PM
littering and.. littering and..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on May 29, 2017, 05:13:13 PM
Give them something to read and they might not litter, just sayin'. :P
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on May 30, 2017, 02:16:11 PM
first pics from the builder!

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B3C9E6F5-DBBE-4791-9858-DC282FC2B677.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/2E076E97-583E-4F39-9119-A7D34F408405.jpg)

doesn't look like much.. but all the aluminum/steel stuff (injection lines, intake, compressor housing and valve covers) have all been bead blasted clean and clear coated. engine will return to its natural color (cummins beige of course) and i'll keep the hot and cold water lines to the heater core their blue and red. exhaust manifold will be black or course.  a couple of new rubber hoses to clean off the look. i'm giddy. i can't wait to see it back together.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on May 30, 2017, 02:45:35 PM
littering and.. littering and..

"...headed north for some French fries and gravy. Poutine sir..."
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 02, 2017, 06:35:58 PM
the kaiser gets a windscreen!!

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/96365864-9735-4934-AF73-7A1D0AAF3D2D.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/8D43817D-842E-4D80-BF93-8CD909907DD4.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/21E9A87D-0D9D-4F30-B68F-00F1A98CDF16.jpg)

gray laminate windshield glass. cut to fit both sides. with universal 1/8"-1/4" metal/glass gasket. matches the side windows (35%) perfectly. the rear will be done the same way. (single pane)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: rpar86 on June 02, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Windshield... and the thing isn't even running at the moment. Kind of a Square-D moment...??  :facepalm:

(kidding)  At least it ran for a little bit  :grin:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 02, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
Nice adding the tint.

How is the motor coming?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 02, 2017, 09:18:46 PM
motor should be done by next weekend. all the parts are at the builder. he was waiting on main bearings to be swapped out and for valve springs/GSK to come in. he told me he'd either start this weekend or on monday and most likely have it done in 2 days.

my dad got the glass today and couldn't stand it so he drove 30 min to the shop and put them in. i think he's beside himself with the way it looks and with the engine nearly done. going to have to thread a needle with putting it in after my wedding and before i head to NYC and ohio for nearly a month starting early july. but.. i think it's doable. more pics to follow once i get word from the builder.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 02, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
Yep, the windows do ad something. At least getting the motor in is not making up mounts and all, should be quick.

Trying to get my burb at least driving but just bogered up the stock TBI (broke off blade screws)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 05, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
another builder pic. he's trickling them to me. it's terribly agonizing. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/72CFED1E-30AA-478B-B890-27F5D872ECB2.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on June 05, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
... it's terribly agonizing. hahah

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/72CFED1E-30AA-478B-B890-27F5D872ECB2.jpg)

I bet it is!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 13, 2017, 11:35:28 AM
it's getting there! just waiting on an oil pump to get there. everything else should be good to go soon

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A2A2F776-3B8E-4EC5-BDA0-A08D66506338.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/B360A854-A9F7-4746-BB58-45D1894B5303.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2017, 07:41:13 PM
Thise motors are some serious beef!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 21, 2017, 08:40:42 AM
a few more!!

they're trickling in.. but i'm glad to see any of them. it looks amazing

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/D4712DE1-4920-438C-9C8B-25DFD63469C0.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/A2F8C4E4-1BCF-4464-8C0F-C33DAC14ACD5.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/AC5A1FF4-8DE0-43EE-BE45-43691565C491.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/4AE3D2C0-A7CD-48F6-8E9B-096F4D5FC66A.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on June 21, 2017, 09:12:40 AM
Looks good.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on June 21, 2017, 12:21:00 PM
Nice to see it coming together.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on June 26, 2017, 08:02:22 PM
more pics! hoping to have the IP lines and valve covers on tomorrow. along with exhaust manifold and turbo.

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/117F0EC3-0C9D-44A6-BB60-6A5715AF6CAC.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/DC982024-046F-4773-9E6E-F776DA3F129C.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9B0CE5A4-B55C-49DC-A704-8AE91CF58D1E.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/E8305C5B-E2CA-4CE6-83BF-C381AD537313_1.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/9A89F5F6-71F2-450F-9309-9467A158EF76.jpg)

(http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt284/swbhobie16/000CAE99-0AC9-4731-A279-70D59BA891A7.jpg)

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 26, 2017, 08:50:07 PM
oooooohhhh.  progress!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 12, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
after waaaay too much waiting.. the injectors have finally arrived at the builders shop. so hopefully this afternoon/tmrw morning he will have it assembled and possibly running before he's out of town this weekend.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on July 13, 2017, 02:30:57 AM
photobucket does not like you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 13, 2017, 09:00:51 AM
no.. no it does not. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on July 13, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
Welcome to he photobucket hate crowd.

I'm sure you're in the same boat as me trying to figure out what to do.
I've got a ton linked. Not sure how many you have but I know there a bunch as well.

Stupid photo bucket.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on July 13, 2017, 11:54:20 AM
Maybe there will be a class action or something keeping the old status quo. All of a sudden 1000's need to pay hundreds to keep a service that was free?

I never really licked linking things but always posted smaller pics for that reason.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 09, 2017, 03:24:44 PM
well.. the day has come. it's about time to fire the motor. engine builder is setting it up now to crank and run for a bit.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 09, 2017, 03:33:28 PM
Must have video,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 09, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
:popcorn


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 09, 2017, 08:50:15 PM
if photobucket was being a little B id have one up..  :angry:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 09, 2017, 11:22:41 PM
I think half the world is mad at PB. They just turn it off one day after years of free use, what a scam.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2017, 11:39:10 AM
inmean.. it's there prerogative i suppose. but still..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
so.. engine was cranked yesterday. fired right up. ran strong. no leaks.. or so he thought. 

had the oil pressure gauge hooked up. only get 20 at idle. 25 at rev. ran for 30 sec or so. didn't change at all. he shut it down.. sat down and was sick.

looked under the valve covers. not getting oil to a couple rockers. weird.

thought about it.. called another buddy who builds engines. asked if he has any issues like this before. the guy immediately asks who did the machine work. he told him, to which the other builder replied 'last one he did for me, he left the oil journal freeze plug out of the tappet galley' (where push rods go up from cam to rockers)

so.. my guy pulled the pump and tappet cover in about 45 min and found out it was indeed gone. which was just letting oil ooze out of the oil journal and not pushing it up to the rockers OR allowing oil pressure to build.

called cummins by my house this morning and they had a couple. so my dad went to pick them up as well as fuel supply washers to replace the used ones and headed to greensboro to help install and break it in once it's all back together. will know this afternoon if it runs like it should..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on August 10, 2017, 11:59:47 AM
hopefully no accelerated wear from lack of oiling for that short period. I know from gas engines the first few minutes of run time are crucial, but I've got no real experience with diesels and their much more HD components. sucks, hope this fixes it for ya.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2017, 12:06:40 PM
20psi is plenty for all the low end components.. which were what was creating the pressure anyway. the pushrods and rockers only see slight movement at their intersections, and it was only for 30 sec. the cam is what is super crucial, and it was a 'used' cam that checked out great when inspected.

but you're absolutely right. the first little bit of a gas motor running esp with a new cam are very important. the guy didn't seem to think that we're were any issues at all with it doing what it did. could and would have been had he not caught it, or knew where to look. we will see..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on August 10, 2017, 12:12:51 PM
Right. If the cam was used, it had already been load hardened and should be fine. Good to hear.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2017, 12:17:14 PM
yes sir. came out of an LP engine so it has alittle different intake and exhaust lift/duration. (apparently cummins makes an LP engine with spark plugs instead of injectors and a distributor run off the cam/crank with fuel injected in to intake horn..?) either way.. he said it would let it breathe alittle better. he's done a couple at school/in his class like that i believe.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 10, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
At least it was an easy fix and it fired right up. Hopefully as stated no damage done.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on August 10, 2017, 01:10:05 PM
Curious to hear more about how the cam does once it's in the truck. Sounds like a slight improvement but nothing over the top.


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 10, 2017, 01:34:36 PM
Something better than stock would be nice.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2017, 01:52:29 PM
yea. i'm looking forward to hearing it again/seeing the oil pressure come back.

the cam is 'stock' but not to a 12 valve diesel. lol. interested to see how it does myself. i think it'll be awesome. interested to see what kinda mileage we get too. anything over 16-17 will be amazing. guy i know has a 12 valve swapped excursion on 35s with 3.54s and knocks down 24 mph on the hwy..

my dad got the plug up there and took about 3 seconds to put in. last i heard they have the pumped timed at 16.25* and reassembling everything to fire it up.. again.

my dad took the rad core support up so it can be plumbed with the radiator we have along with the IC and intake horn that it'll have on it in the truck.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 10, 2017, 02:20:43 PM
Is there a number on the cam? I still keep getting parts for mine.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2017, 04:03:09 PM
i'm sure i can get it from the builder.

update: she's alive. amazing oil pressure. runs great (according to my dad)

cold
65-70 psi idle.
90ish at rev.

i think my dad is ecstatic
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: rpar86 on August 10, 2017, 07:08:37 PM
if photobucket was being a little B id have one up..  :angry:

youtube.  :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cruizng on August 11, 2017, 07:49:38 AM
Saweeet! Glad it was only a minor blip.

 :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 19, 2017, 07:42:09 AM
back together. and back at the trans shop to have them install the filter extension and trans temp bung that they didn't install the first time around. so.. once that's done i'll set the idle with the optical tach i ordered, install a 1quart stainless steel overflow tank and hook up some trans switches for OD and LU..

stay tuned!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Sammconn on August 19, 2017, 03:36:47 PM
Nice! Bet you guys are itching to get her back together.
 :beercheers:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 27, 2017, 10:08:29 PM
she lives!!

once i can come up with a way to post some vids and pics, i will.
but for now.. know that a heart beats and the kaiser drives on its own!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 28, 2017, 12:03:56 AM
Sweet, we await pics.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 02, 2017, 06:16:11 PM
(https://www.flickr.com/gp/94796841@N06/02WY56)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 02, 2017, 06:17:23 PM
well.. flickr doesn't work for photos. crap
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: rpar86 on September 05, 2017, 04:43:16 PM
What do you mean?

Are you using the bbcode link?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 08, 2017, 10:37:08 AM
i thought i was. i copied the URL and tried to link it on the forum, and got nothing.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 08, 2017, 10:41:24 AM
Try the insert image, lower left icon.
Title: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on September 08, 2017, 11:49:26 AM
By popular demand.....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/e12b6d6155e126fe088190bb234ea79d.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/8240d0ace079a431094e95191bb7b833.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170908/ae95bcbdc96104f173d3b2f4a9f71e93.jpg)

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 08, 2017, 01:20:35 PM
that's what i thought i was trying. pasting the URL in the insert image icon..

but wyo got it uploaded somehow. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on September 08, 2017, 03:49:44 PM
About time!

 :likebutton: very nice....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 08, 2017, 04:35:13 PM
Looks great. How does it run?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on September 08, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
It lives!! woohoo!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 08, 2017, 06:16:03 PM
it runs amazing. had to adjust the tappet cover gasket slightly bc of a leak, but i think it's all good now. and had to barely snug up an injection line bc of fuel leak. but it's good now from what i can tell.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 08, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
Great news!  Now, saunter over to N. Kentucky and see what you can do with another similar type vehicle that's currently burdened by an crushing layer of dust and neglect!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 08, 2017, 07:32:39 PM
hey.. i wouldn't mind doing that. provided i was supplied with sufficient amounts of bacon and booze. anything is possible!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 08, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
hey.. i wouldn't mind doing that. provided i was supplied with sufficient amounts of bacon and booze. anything is possible!!

Heck, that would let Don off cheap!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 08, 2017, 11:14:51 PM
did i miss the hourly rate too..

yea.. that's gotta be in there too. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on September 09, 2017, 02:14:49 AM
Can't you just do it for the sake of all the viewers here? And for the future ones to come? And maybe a bottle of good bourbon?


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 09, 2017, 07:57:30 AM
I think we'd set up a go find me page. I'll throw in a slab of bacon and a 1.75 of Jack


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 09, 2017, 09:29:35 AM
Can't you just do it for the sake of all the viewers here? And for the future ones to come? And maybe a bottle of good bourbon?


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you make a convincing argument.

but nothing settles an arguenent  like benjamins hahhahaah

speaking of the name that isn't to be spoken, where is that honkin 1st gen of his..?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on September 09, 2017, 09:54:13 AM
Where? Well it's sitting right where it's been since they discovered dirt!  :popcorn:

Near Florence KY


Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 09, 2017, 02:15:21 PM
Where? Well it's sitting right where it's been since they discovered dirt!  :popcorn:

UNDER THE SURFACE DUST OF Near Florence KY
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 12, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
low blows guys. low blows.

hahaha.

been pretty busy with these hurricanes in the SE, bit hoping stuff slows down to where he can complete it soon. needs some weatherproofing. and sound deadening. but it's pretty good so far. seems to move itself well and the trans is proving to be ok. LU and OD function on switches, but he's already said he wants to move to a stand alone controller. lol. i knew that wouldn't take long.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on December 17, 2018, 11:31:21 AM
Hey you still Alive???  Any updates???
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on December 18, 2018, 05:42:38 AM
Hey you still Alive???  Any updates???


Phil, not sure he gets on here much or if at all any more. This build is finished and been on the road for a while. His newest build, the Chevy he bought a while back, is where he is at now.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Nate on December 18, 2018, 10:26:24 AM
did he finish it here?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 15, 2019, 05:02:40 PM
i’m not dead and neither is the kaiser!!

hopefully this works..

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0uF5-m_Jl16yio6N2wPDcJ2hQ#Downtown_Wilson,_NC (https://share.icloud.com/photos/0uF5-m_Jl16yio6N2wPDcJ2hQ#Downtown_Wilson,_NC)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on January 15, 2019, 05:09:33 PM
It does and looks great, but post it here too!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on January 15, 2019, 05:40:04 PM
i’m not dead and neither is the kaiser!!

hopefully this works..

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0uF5-m_Jl16yio6N2wPDcJ2hQ#Downtown_Wilson,_NC (https://share.icloud.com/photos/0uF5-m_Jl16yio6N2wPDcJ2hQ#Downtown_Wilson,_NC)

404 bad gateway brother. I was just thinking about you. Found my old type 3d chrome Wagoneer logo in storage last weekend.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on January 15, 2019, 06:15:51 PM
Link works for me. Looks great. Welcome back, now post up some more pics slacker!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 15, 2019, 06:22:19 PM
if anyone would kindly inform me of how to post directly here.. i’ll be more than happy to post as many as you’d like. hah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on January 15, 2019, 06:53:17 PM
I can’t open it on mobile but excited to see hat heavy duty monster


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Nate on January 15, 2019, 07:04:21 PM
if anyone would kindly inform me of how to post directly here.. i’ll be more than happy to post as many as you’d like. hah

You should be good to go now for posting the pics and the info
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 15, 2019, 07:16:32 PM
maybe this
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on January 15, 2019, 07:55:13 PM
Nice, plans for a front bumper?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on January 15, 2019, 11:24:41 PM
JR, I think the front bumper is done, but I may be incorrect.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on April 04, 2019, 06:54:35 AM
no real/build updates at the moment.. just wanted to share that there have been approx 2k trouble free miles on the truck (since speedo was hooked up) and it gets driven nearly every week.

we’ve tossed around the idea of a 4500 swap and i fortunately located a 29 spline dodge tcase with coupler that came out of a running driving crew cab first gen dually with 5600 in front of it for what i felt like was relatively cheap.

(https://i.imgur.com/VLiaD34.jpg)

sister cases. 29 spline on the left, 23 on the right. now.. what to do with them. hahah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 22, 2019, 10:38:05 AM
finally got the 4500 home and the D60 DRW picked up from my house. pretty sure the case is NOS 99 gas (not H.D.). from what i can tell, i should be able to swap out input shaft and bearing collar and call it a day. leave the 23 spline output to adapt to the 23 spline 205 that will get E brake and twin stick. anyone see any issues with leaving the 23.. or should or swap to 29 and do the 5th gear fix? i know norm has beat on patch relentlessly with a 23 spline 205 and it seems to be holding up..

i only want to do this once. whatever that entails. i have both tcases and couplers so that’s no longer an issue. just need to know which direction to go with input and ouput/which case to tear down, clean, paint and reseal.

internals are all the same.. no?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 09, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
bump on the 4500 question

but, since it’s in my shop and won’t leave until it’s all one color..

(https://i.imgur.com/XWu4ej4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ekIo0Yb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mIpePtQ.jpg)

should have taken some pics of the inside. it’s new. like.. never been in a truck new (story told to me.. and i believe it) 

but. it’s all buttoned up now. going to do a cummins input shaft swap and leave the 23 spline output and use another 23 spline 205 here in the shop to ‘build up’ some for this swap

that being said, the 47rh/205 will soon go on the market. so if anyone wants or knows anyone that wants it, let me know.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on August 09, 2019, 07:18:45 PM
send me  a PM I might have a use.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on August 09, 2019, 10:44:45 PM
send me  a PM I might have a use.

Fastenal will freight it to AZ for about 250. Were headed east next month maybe ship it somewhere  in my route and I’ll bring it back? Throw me a bone for fuel, got a bunch of stuff that needs to come to you anyways, what’s one more :)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 10, 2019, 12:10:07 AM
4500 is an iron case right?

47, is that electronic like the 48 or in between?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2019, 06:21:37 AM
4500 is an iron case right?

47, is that electronic like the 48 or in between?

4500 is iron case with aluminum top plate, bell housing and tail housing.

the 47rh is hydraulic shift for 1-3, then a ground signal for OD and torque converter lock up. the 47re and later 48re are electrically controlled from the PCM. they only made the 47rh from ‘94-‘95 (maaaaybe ‘96.. but i don’t think so) right now they are on 2 switches on the dash. but there are several companies that make a small computer to operate those functions with a simple VSS and adjustable speed settings for LU and OD
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on August 10, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
47RH(618) for the Cummins and V10 was only  94-95,  they did have 47RH behind the V8 in 93-95  it has two latching solenoids on for the OD and another for the LU.  No electronics on the RH series.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 10, 2019, 11:43:37 AM
i thought that was the case. just couldn’t remember if it was a 2 year only trans or continued on for another. (i knew the cummins started having them in 94 though) i got deep into the info when putting it together, but i’ve switched gears (hahah) to an allison driven build in my head.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 11, 2019, 02:30:13 PM
Think I have the 46 but understand the 47 is better. Kinda on back burner now while land is getting set up and home projects finished.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 12, 2019, 06:19:30 PM
hoping to get the trans painted tomorrow. and possibly the tcase cleaned off and primed. still need twin stick shift rails and NWF pinion E brake kit. as well as a cummins front input shaft and bearing retainer
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 13, 2019, 07:57:03 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Mqugk9T.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/X7huqa7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eOtoBCR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/44XGqK4.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 13, 2019, 09:50:48 PM
Nice and even with the factory label.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 16, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
before

(https://i.imgur.com/T2vtjry.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fg80EdC.jpg)

after (ish)

(https://i.imgur.com/AfjPlso.jpg)

primer

(https://i.imgur.com/8XEBXED.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rUfxsAx.jpg)

beige

(https://i.imgur.com/8g1ucfp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cjWWskA.jpg)

popped a new front output seal in after this. and pulled the adapter off in preparation for twin stick.

also, rear bearing housing will be replaced when we do pinion brake.. which is why it’s semi unpainted
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 17, 2019, 11:54:44 AM
Looks good
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on August 17, 2019, 12:13:54 PM
Kummin's Kolor...Kool!
Title: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 22, 2019, 09:10:30 AM
I scrolled to the top of this thread all of your early photos are gone

Not sure what I had missed, this was completed and running, had a complete motor failure and now going back together correct?

Why are you rebuilding a transfer case ?

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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 22, 2019, 09:35:01 AM
completed.  :cheesy:

catastrophic motor failure.  :cry:

built motor installed.  :evil:

~2k miles since back together.  :beercheers:

swapping out to NV4500 in place of the 47rh   :cool:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on August 28, 2019, 07:01:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oCjfbCd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nsyGH9w.jpg)

bumper and brush guard back from powder. and also tow points.

nearly ready for her 5 speed swap

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on August 28, 2019, 07:42:25 PM
Very Nice!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on August 28, 2019, 08:53:09 PM
Kinda reminds me of a bull with brite nose rings.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 14, 2019, 07:33:14 AM
next big ticket (hard to find) item i’m searching for is is a cummins bell housing for a 4500 (and not spending an arm and leg for it)

i got a factory cummins input shaft for the 4500 and a new (well.. better condition) 23 spline input shaft for the 205) will show comparison pics when it gets here.

twin stick shift rails showed up yesterday. waiting on pinion brake..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 14, 2019, 09:01:08 PM
also.. thinking about clutches.

really think i need something in the 350-400hp range

valair: NMU70279-01-5SCE

thoughts?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on September 16, 2019, 10:27:20 AM
next big ticket (hard to find) item i’m searching for is is a cummins bell housing for a 4500 (and not spending an arm and leg for it)

i got a factory cummins input shaft for the 4500 and a new (well.. better condition) 23 spline input shaft for the 205) will show comparison pics when it gets here.

twin stick shift rails showed up yesterday. waiting on pinion brake..

Sorry I couldn't do much for you on that one sir; not sure why we only carry the upgrade, guess they got tired of warrantying out remans, lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 16, 2019, 08:03:19 PM
not a problem in the world man. found what looked like a good used one and and want to keep it as factory as possible.

just thinking about clutches now.

but this showed up today.

new ish 23 spline input for the 205

(https://i.imgur.com/uKQSpaT.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5kkTWUu.jpg)

the splines are much much cleaner than the one in the case now. pics of that to come tmrw
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 16, 2019, 08:07:30 PM
Looks pretty good for used, wonder what mine is?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 16, 2019, 08:11:39 PM
Looks pretty good for used, wonder what mine is?

what what is?

might have missed what your school ride was. if so, my apologizes. busy hah
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 16, 2019, 08:16:07 PM
Have the stock driveline setup for my 6BT, R46, w/205. Drive flanges on both sides,

Also have 2 bell housing adapters, think one in for auto, other for man I hope.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 16, 2019, 08:22:24 PM
Have the stock driveline setup for my 6BT, R46, w/205. Drive flanges on both sides,

Also have 2 bell housing adapters, think one in for auto, other for man I hope.

that’ll be a 23 spline 205.

pics of the bell housings will help. but auto is ~1.5” thick. manual is ~3” thick. i have a manual one hanging on the wall

and a 47rh/205 that will be coming out ls the kaiser soon. if anyone is interested.

from torque converter to shifter/dipstick.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 16, 2019, 09:17:01 PM
47 would be cool in the sub but that is sorta on hold now with everything have going on right now. I will check my adaptors.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 16, 2019, 09:22:27 PM
not looking to make a fortune on the trans/tcase. just wanting it gone once it’s pulled and to offset some cost of the 5 speed.

would be amazing in the sub for sure
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 17, 2019, 03:01:03 PM
definitely glad i decided to pull it apart.

(https://i.imgur.com/vhsY6Rk.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NbsEsIa.jpg)

twin stick shift rails and rail interfaces installed. and the trans adapter back in place.

(https://i.imgur.com/clio3mi.jpg)

adjustable detents as well

(https://i.imgur.com/aHIu0gT.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 17, 2019, 04:38:18 PM
Maybe a little water in the oil, or no oil?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 17, 2019, 05:29:45 PM
not entirely sure to be honest. i’m thinking that the vent tube was stopped up (which it was) and every surface that didn’t have a lot of oil on it (those splines and the empty spot you see rusted) condensed water and just rusted over time.

either way.. all good now. just waiting on pinion brake
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on September 17, 2019, 06:10:27 PM
jb on the shift rails? Who's e-brake?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 17, 2019, 06:20:51 PM
jb on the shift rails? Who's e-brake?

yessir. JB rails and interface/adjustable detents.

pinion brake is NWF with a wilwood mechanical caliper.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on September 17, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
I have a set of those jb ss rails, you think the adjustable detents are needed?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 17, 2019, 08:53:02 PM
I have a set of those jb ss rails, you think the adjustable detents are needed?

NEEDED.. maybe not.

but after seeing how infinitely adjustable these are.. for $28 i don’t see why not. plus the varying shifter lengths and pivots/fulcrums etc it makes it nice and not just a set pressure from the factory bolts/springs
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 18, 2019, 04:37:40 PM
out with the old
(relatively speaking.. all that stuff looks brand new hah)
(https://i.imgur.com/sFJrvG5.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oYyAQjJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/n0Y55JG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DPSAf8Q.jpg)

in with the new

(https://i.imgur.com/T9dnKwG.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wyorunner on September 20, 2019, 11:07:24 PM
I have a set of those jb ss rails, you think the adjustable detents are needed?

I’m sure glad we had them on ours, made things a lot easier during the two times of him under the truck adjusting and me moving the sticks back and forth. Found that mix of what works well!

Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on September 21, 2019, 08:53:16 AM
I have a set of those jb ss rails, you think the adjustable detents are needed?

I’m sure glad we had them on ours, made things a lot easier during the two times of him under the truck adjusting and me moving the sticks back and forth. Found that mix of what works well!

 :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 27, 2019, 06:28:55 PM
mocked up. just to make sure it all goes together and will turn. lol

(https://i.imgur.com/jSvwGcV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nhh0x4T.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on September 27, 2019, 07:23:41 PM
very nice, does it turn.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 28, 2019, 08:36:23 AM
very nice, does it turn.

it does indeed.

even with just alittle fluid in/on the gears it shifts into every gear and turns freely. will adjust the detents once the shifter bracket is fabbed up.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on September 29, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
picked up a clutch, pressure plate and flywheel today.

valair NMU70119-04 with ~500 mi on it.

still waiting on a bell housing.. we shall see
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 11, 2019, 07:15:22 PM
got the 2nd to last piece on the drive train..

(https://i.imgur.com/nNvKPrr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/H014lk2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/E7vkkkq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mOiLzKF.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: EL TATE on October 14, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
Not just the caliper Charles :grin:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 14, 2019, 03:24:33 PM
Hey, a clean 205 much less painted in sexy!

Last one I did was black with SS hardware, looked great!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on October 15, 2019, 10:18:02 AM
So, I should install something like that on my Suburban.

I am using captured hydraulic pressure at the moment as a parking brake, which doubles as a solid wheel lock should I have to winch, but this seems more, well, "Normal" (And pretty darned kool!)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 15, 2019, 09:50:49 PM
So, I should install something like that on my Suburban.

I am using captured hydraulic pressure at the moment as a parking brake, which doubles as a solid wheel lock should I have to winch, but this seems more, well, "Normal" (And pretty darned kool!)

 https://www.highangledriveline.com/np231&241.html (https://www.highangledriveline.com/np231&241.html)

i think this is what you’d need..? NP241 in the burb i’m thinking?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 15, 2019, 11:08:51 PM
I was gunna ask why you went north of the border when Jesse has the same stuff.....
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 16, 2019, 07:25:07 AM
it’s who/what my duramax guy sells. and i didn’t realize there was another pinion brake setup here in the states. the brake from NWF just complimented all the other billet pieces i got for my GM 205 when i built it for the allison, so i just went with the same setup for my dads..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 16, 2019, 08:28:58 AM
Copy, yeah I bought one of these from Jesse almost 20 years ago. Think it’s actually his design as back then NWF wasn’t heard of, both make nice stuff though.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on October 18, 2019, 04:28:02 PM
So, I should install something like that on my Suburban.

I am using captured hydraulic pressure at the moment as a parking brake, which doubles as a solid wheel lock should I have to winch, but this seems more, well, "Normal" (And pretty darned kool!)

 https://www.highangledriveline.com/np231&241.html (https://www.highangledriveline.com/np231&241.html)

i think this is what you’d need..? NP241 in the burb i’m thinking?
OK then!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 27, 2019, 09:49:35 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jtKvtiB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/m2f2usc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iKVy8U3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yIXY3nL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VSA2aFy.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on October 27, 2019, 12:45:10 PM
 :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 29, 2019, 05:16:51 PM
gasketed/bolted together for final install. up next, wooden dolly/platform to roll it all around and under the truck as one unit to jack it up and into place.

(https://i.imgur.com/L4XmNGN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rJedj4y.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cbV1fuL.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 29, 2019, 05:42:18 PM
She’s a real bute Clark.


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Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: stlaser on October 29, 2019, 05:56:22 PM
As always very clean!  :likebutton:
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 29, 2019, 11:18:18 PM
no build would be complete without a dolly!!

(https://i.imgur.com/HWApjEM.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/D3iBs7N.jpg)

tmrw.. it may come within sight of its new home. hopefully making the trip over to my parents house where it will get put in maybe this week or next.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 30, 2019, 05:28:58 PM
off to its new home!

(https://i.imgur.com/m92K8wP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EGGQpfp.jpg)

she made it

(https://i.imgur.com/yhjSBk9.jpg)

hopefully pulling the auto tomorrow. and getting the manual in.. we shall see
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on October 30, 2019, 05:38:29 PM
Looks so nice!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on October 31, 2019, 07:50:08 PM
out with the old

(https://i.imgur.com/E3Q1EZ7.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/O9jN7Rh.jpg)

she was still warm from the test drive/video session this morning when the came out from under the truck

this wasn’t in the old setup..

(https://i.imgur.com/KhrIfBN.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ELr5lyg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/765PpFq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/q0zupQM.jpg)

paint inside trans shifter. i swear it’s NOS..

(https://i.imgur.com/ZBjT69o.jpg)

getting ready..

(https://i.imgur.com/QPWNy4V.jpg)

and bam! she’s in (if only it took 3 seconds in reality..)

(https://i.imgur.com/9mAatee.jpg)

brake clears too

(https://i.imgur.com/M0LuHVE.jpg)

master/slave cylinder is all that’s left

(https://i.imgur.com/sJqDDuI.jpg)

when getting a master/slave setup, is there a particular year i should look for? i want one that bolts to the firewall.. not the half turn in a correctly sized hole.

also.. push rod: just make one that attaches to the clutch pedal? does it matter how far it travels? (will it self regulate in the slave cylinder) anyone know how far it NEEDS to push?


also.. this is now for sale if anyone wants/needs it. just shoot me a message.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on November 01, 2019, 09:51:42 AM
You have good access to those hard to get to bolts. I'm sure that counted greatly in the relative ease of the swap. Wouldn't it be nice if the trucks stayed that clean?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 01, 2019, 10:28:23 PM
how’s that for clean (definitely believing it’s NOS..)

(https://i.imgur.com/CRyfL7J.jpg)

not a single spec of oil on the inside PTO cover. perfectly clean
(https://i.imgur.com/B3MTU1g.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 02, 2019, 11:48:40 PM
twin stick bracket/PTO inspection plate cover

(https://i.imgur.com/OAmHkhw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jAC2SwV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Winuiko.jpg)

look at those 3 pedals!

and it all works. without the drive shafts so far, but it engages and disengages. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on November 05, 2019, 10:32:59 AM
Looking good, man!!!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 05, 2019, 11:54:53 AM
Very nice. Who has dibs on the old unit?
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 05, 2019, 08:55:11 PM
Very nice. Who has dibs on the old unit?

well.. a local ish guy said he wanted it. but no $$ yet. anyone here interested? i’ll be in contact with said guy this week and report back
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 10, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
speedo gear question.

i our the old gear from my GM 205 in the dodge case. (GM one was red, but appeared to have same thread pitch as the chewed up yellow one) the yellow was 5 tooth. unsure what the red one is since it’s at my dads house in the truck. i compared it to the 29 spline dodge 205 i have here too. it’s a yellow 5 tooth gear as well. the kaiser is burying the speedo past 80 at ~60 mph.

the drive gear i pulled out of my GM case has 18 teeth and was mated to the red gear. the drive gear diameter is .92” diameter.

the dodge drive gear from 29 spline is .75” and 14 tooth. so.. it seems as if the drive gears interchange to adjust speed. but i guess i just need to pull the one in the truck out and compare to the auto/205 gear that came out of the kaiser (bc it was dead on) worse comes to worse, ill just pull it all out of the old tcase and put it in the new one. bc i know it worked right. just trying to avoid doing that. would rather just swap drive gears..
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on November 10, 2019, 01:38:54 PM
Sounds rhetorical?

If the speedo used a standard drive any gear should work inside the case since it just turns the shaft.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: wilsonphil on November 10, 2019, 01:48:05 PM
What speedo are you running?

some of the Dodges had an auxiliary gear box coming off the transfer case to drive the speedo, the proper gear and then the correct "gearbox" will correct it.  If you need that you might not be able to do it with just a different gear.

https://transmissioncenter.net/shop/54ra2-gm-dodge-ford-ratio-adapter/  this is a speed up version not waht you need but i think they have the slow down version also.   you can also call them Speedometer Gears 1.888.201.2066   WARNING they are not real good from a customer service point of view at least that was my experience with them.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on November 12, 2019, 08:24:13 AM
so, i believe i’ve found the issue.

when putting the case back together i just grabbed the red one that came from the GM one. well.. turns out it’s 7 tooth. the one that came out of it was a yellow 5 tooth. so is the one in the auto setup that was just pulled. as well as the 29 spline 205 in the shop. and all 3 drive gears are the same 14 tooth gear. so, going to pull the old one from the auto setup and swap it over. should solve the issue.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 17, 2019, 08:25:59 AM
pulled the e brake assembly and output bearing retainer housing off yesterday and swapped out the red 7 tooth gear for a yellow 5 tooth gear. back to being ~2% off in speed. which is highly acceptable considering it’s all mechanical and no adjusting/GPS calibrated speedo.

also, located and fixed the semi severe (in my mind at least) oil leak on the DS of engine that was subsequently oozing and smearing all down the side and bottom of engine.

a bad o ring on the timing pin inside it’s housing was the culprit. grabbed the pin and it flopped back and forth in the housing with zero resistance. went down to cummins and picked up 2 (just in case) pulled the retainer clip off and slid it out. the o ring that was on the pin actually had a smaller OD than the outside of the timing pin.. rendering it essentially pointless. so, with that replaced we degreased the engine fairly well to check for further leaks. and after ~50 miles she seems to be good.

for today, we hope to source a trans tunnel cover from a <‘79 waggy or cherokee from a junk yard to properly fit the new trans shifter and get all that buttoned back up
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on December 17, 2019, 03:26:32 PM
Better progress than me, nice.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 18, 2019, 09:09:27 PM
205 twin stick shifters coming along. hoping to be on tomorrow. and a new auto trans tunnel sourced to cut a new hole for the 4500 in. and block a massive sound hole. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on December 25, 2019, 02:57:31 PM
twin stick shifters in and functional. all that’s left for the new trans setup is the disk brake cable install.

need to sound deaden the trans tunnel, but it’s in and working nicely with a square hole allowing for the shifter.

i’ll try and snag some pics today if possible.

ohh.. and
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 03, 2020, 07:33:47 PM
got the wilwood e brake cable installed on pinion brake. after adjusting.. man is it strong. parked it on a +/-20° hill at my parents house and it held. i’ll try and get a pic of it in place that’s as accurate to portraying ‘level’ as possible. but it’s strong. tires actually slid on wet grass a bit but weren’t rolling. lol
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: Flyin6 on January 03, 2020, 08:38:56 PM
got the wilwood e brake cable installed on pinion brake. after adjusting.. man is it strong. parked it on a +/-20° hill at my parents house and it held. i’ll try and get a pic of it in place that’s as accurate to portraying ‘level’ as possible. but it’s strong. tires actually slid on wet grass a bit but weren’t rolling. lol
I very well may be going to that setup myself in the burb
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on January 04, 2020, 07:13:11 AM
got the wilwood e brake cable installed on pinion brake. after adjusting.. man is it strong. parked it on a +/-20° hill at my parents house and it held. i’ll try and get a pic of it in place that’s as accurate to portraying ‘level’ as possible. but it’s strong. tires actually slid on wet grass a bit but weren’t rolling. lol
I very well may be going to that setup myself in the burb

i’m using the same setup in the square body duramax but will be running it off the foot brake. we used the factory twin stick levers and hand e brake on the kaiser. looks pretty cool. now he just needs to finish the tunnel and then make some bolts (most likely out of canvas.. ya know. MIL SPEC circa ‘69 hahah)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 11, 2020, 07:57:53 AM
my dad finally got the trans cross member built and installed. clears the drive shaft and is still pretty clean looking i’d say.

(https://i.imgur.com/4tF7XIw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Ukxan51.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OEVrzoh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NzRFQ4j.jpg)
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: JR on February 11, 2020, 10:48:27 AM
Clean and solid
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: KensAuto on February 11, 2020, 10:53:57 AM
Really clean job. What did he end up using for the clutch hydraulics? Looks like the (cast?) slave was a direct fit.
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: swbhobie16 on February 11, 2020, 11:06:54 AM
all ‘99 dodge master and slave. bolted right up. all that’s left is a little bracket to hold reservoir under the hood. temporary zip tied to brake master cylinder
Title: Re: M715.9
Post by: cj7ox on February 11, 2020, 04:36:26 PM
I love this rig.  Super clean work!
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