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Title: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 19, 2016, 06:46:13 PM
I am beyond words at what I am witnessing

Trump is slumping...No surprise since he's being attacked from all sides, even the republican stalwarts.

It is actually starting to look like a landslide victory with the Dems taking the white house, and both houses of Congress

So think about what that will mean

We are probably in the short term looking at some crafty interpretations of the constitution. I'd make an educated guess that the 1st Amendment will be nearly discarded. LBGT groups will tear it apart and try to tear apart us, Christ centered Americans. They will divide and conquer and work their way through everything that doesn't line up with their ideology.

I think the second amendment will become so tampered with that we may be in real danger of a full on confiscation. Long before that actually takes place a real revolution will likely break out.

I don't think folks are actually believing it could/will happen, but I see it laser clear. It's upon us. Hillary has said the American public does not need hand guns. She definitely hates assault rifles and magazines, so I see all that falling under the microscope. She will probably move to allow gun manufacturers to be sued which will cause all of them to close their shops up, and she could regulate propellants like gun powder and bullets as some EPA sponsored environmental hazard.

So You had better think through the long game on all that. I am wondering how anxious police officers might be to answer our calls for help if they are being sued, jailed, charged and scrutinized like life on mars?

We are looking at a complete paradigm shift in what we are to what we are about to become, an enslaved people.

Who agrees?
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: stlaser on October 19, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Rule of law died a long time ago, did I miss something?
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Atkinsmatt on October 19, 2016, 09:37:42 PM
She is demonstrating that she is a well rehearsed liar.
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: fenriswolf039 on October 19, 2016, 10:00:37 PM
Hillary won this before it ever got started.

We are in some serious trouble.  She is such a horrible liar, and people are just suckling at the teat of the lapdog media.

I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination, but she is destined to be one of history's greatest monsters.
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Dawg25385 on October 19, 2016, 11:41:23 PM
The absolute tragedy is we didn't have to be in this position if the GOP could have got behind an electable candidate


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: JR on October 20, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
It is scary and he could have done so much better in the debate. I had to watch on CNN via an app, nasty.

FYI though, Rasmusson had them even and many don't say they will vote for Trump, but will it be enough. Scary times ahead!!

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Rasmussen-Trump-Clinton-Tied/2016/10/19/id/754232/
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2016, 12:25:19 AM
The absolute tragedy is we didn't have to be in this position if the GOP could have got behind an electable candidate


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Well, I agree that is one way to look at it & maybe so time will tell.

However, when we start looking at or for a great tragedy I think the grandest tragedy will appear on Nov 9. You see my thought is that may be the day all those supporters finally wake up who were convinced that if they voted for Trump yeah the same ones who pulled the lever for the GOP back in 12 & were bent over & shafted then too. Well, they come to the realization that there was never a way to vote ourselves out of this mess. When this finally happens it's gunna get loud real quick. I pray all of you are prepared for that kind of noise.
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: JR on October 20, 2016, 12:31:40 AM
Another thing to think of is the unrest if H does not get, or vis vera for Trump winning.
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Wilbur on October 20, 2016, 01:09:04 AM
Well I do think preparing makes sense just as a "watch your back trail" kind of thing. But I am also not convinced Trump will lose. The polls are BS I think. In September and October of 1980 Gallup had Carter up by 7 or 8 points. Reagan won all but (iirc) 7 states. Brexit polls had the UK staying in the EU....until voting actually happened. I saw a poll from the AZ Republic tonight....Hillary by 7 points....but they had 56% Democrats in the poll to 26% (27%?) Republican. I also know (and this is purely unscientific obviously) that I know here in MA there were Obama signs every freaking where in 08....less in 12 but still a lot....and I now can't find Hillary signs anywhere now. I drove 40 miles one way yesterday and saw 4 Hillary signs and two were in 1 yard.

I am significantly worried about voter fraud but we get the kind of turnout I think we might (100k voters in PA switched to the Republican party and 140k more joined the Republican party) and look at the turnout in the primaries. Trump and the Republicans had 39% increase in votes while Hillary and the Dems votes were off by 20% (or more?).

But as I say- be prepared. I could be 100% wrong and the risks are significant. But I remain optimistic!
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: JR on October 20, 2016, 02:02:07 AM
lets be optimistic, but prepared (hold on to wallet and guns)
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 20, 2016, 07:51:13 AM
Hillary won this before it ever got started.

We are in some serious trouble.  She is such a horrible liar, and people are just suckling at the teat of the lapdog media.

I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination, but she is destined to be one of history's greatest monsters.

I agree. Hillary had this bought and paid for before it even started. She made deals with Obama when she stepped down to make way for him.
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 20, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
So who has the cheapest mags and lowers this week lol


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2016, 08:58:20 AM
Another thing to think of is the unrest if H does not get, or vis vera for Trump winning.

Definitely a divided nation, the way the those guys pulling the strings like it I might add.....
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 20, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
The better question is " where will the best place to move be?


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: stlaser on October 20, 2016, 09:22:12 AM
The better question is " where will the best place to move be?


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community will become your country at that point........
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: JR on October 20, 2016, 09:35:31 AM
Alaska or Texas, Otherwise hunker down and hold on for hopefully only 4 years.

What will be left though if she gets 3 judges?
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 20, 2016, 10:41:33 AM
The better question is " where will the best place to move be?


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A large part of my old community lives in South America.
Chilie seemed to be the local of choice, but Columbia, and Panama were pretty popular as well.
If you had an income of $1,000 a month and, say $40K cashola to buy your land and house, you could make a good run of it. That would buy you a house south of the capital, in a countryside resembling Germany, with a maid quarters and a garage on maybe 40 acres. The 1K a month would pay for a full time maid/cook and gardener and have you eating out quite often.
The Special Forces guys liked it there, and Costa-Rica, but that has gotten expensive, and in Columbia. Some went to El Salvador and some to Guatemala. One of my old door gunners owns the Harley dealership in G-City. SF dudes own hotels, dive shops, sports fishing operations and other things.
Security is pretty good in all those places, and health care is W AAAA Y less expensive. Eye care in Columbia is the best in the world. Food grown and raised in South America is non-GMO. The schools in those places, the private schools are really well above the US system. For example in southern Chilie, your child would graduate high school with lots of college level classes complete and speak English/Spanish/and German.

Hang around for awhile and I just may have a whole other place to resettle to...Stay tuned...
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: turn_one on October 20, 2016, 01:01:53 PM

A large part of my old community lives in South America.
Chilie seemed to be the local of choice, but Columbia, and Panama were pretty popular as well.
If you had an income of $1,000 a month and, say $40K cashola to buy your land and house, you could make a good run of it. That would buy you a house south of the capital, in a countryside resembling Germany, with a maid quarters and a garage on maybe 40 acres. The 1K a month would pay for a full time maid/cook and gardener and have you eating out quite often.
The Special Forces guys liked it there, and Costa-Rica, but that has gotten expensive, and in Columbia. Some went to El Salvador and some to Guatemala. One of my old door gunners owns the Harley dealership in G-City. SF dudes own hotels, dive shops, sports fishing operations and other things.
Security is pretty good in all those places, and health care is W AAAA Y less expensive. Eye care in Columbia is the best in the world. Food grown and raised in South America is non-GMO. The schools in those places, the private schools are really well above the US system. For example in southern Chilie, your child would graduate high school with lots of college level classes complete and speak English/Spanish/and German.

Hang around for awhile and I just may have a whole other place to resettle to...Stay tuned...

I like your train of thought here...
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 20, 2016, 01:09:25 PM
We were talking about it just last night!
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: turn_one on October 20, 2016, 01:37:10 PM
Yo hablo español?
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 20, 2016, 02:13:46 PM
Yo hablo español?
Nein!
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: EL TATE on October 20, 2016, 03:08:51 PM
Yo hablo español con fluidez, y viajé en sudamerica después de la secundaria en vez de Europa como todos. I have pretty extensive knowledge of Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, Venezuela, Peru, and Argentina, as well as many customers in those countries that are loyal Yukon distributors. We could all build off road toys for a living. I also understand and roughly speak Portuguese.
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: KensAuto on October 20, 2016, 03:31:13 PM
I'm in!
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Farmer Jon on October 20, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
I'm just glad we live out in the country. I've got My garden and some chickens and ducks. Soon to add some geese. My brother next door has has a few pigs. We should be alright.
 If Trump wins there will be riots in the cities. I'm staying home. I feel for people who have to be out and about that night.

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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 21, 2016, 07:24:16 AM
Don I'd like to hear more. I was thinking CONUS because of firearms but I have friends in Mexico living well. I'm assuming your SF buds have a stash or access just in case?


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Dawg25385 on October 21, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Idaho. Alaska or MT?


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: TexasRedNeck on October 21, 2016, 08:26:43 PM
Yeah. Idaho is on my list.  Wife is thinking S America


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 21, 2016, 08:55:55 PM
Yeah. Idaho is on my list.  Wife is thinking S America


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I think the Militia from all over the US is planning on making Idaho the new national redoubt (Check out the Swiss meaning of the word. So if you are there it will be under their rules. GTG as long as some small groups here and there don't become opportunistic...
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: stlaser on October 21, 2016, 10:02:17 PM
Idaho, Montana, Wyoming & parts of Utah......

Part of the reason I didn't complain too much when the wife was offered this gig out here. Wyoming is an hour north.
Title: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 22, 2016, 09:11:17 AM
Utah will take it with stride.  Most people were planning for the end of the world from the day they got baptized.  Two years food storage, stock piles of Ammo and weapon cashes, underground dwellings. 


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
You might want to take notice of what's going on at a quiet not-so-little place just west of you...

And south down to Denver
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 22, 2016, 09:11:18 PM
Where you talking about Don?


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Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Flyin6 on October 22, 2016, 10:31:23 PM
Where you talking about Don?


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Dugway
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: stlaser on October 23, 2016, 12:39:13 AM
Where you talking about Don?


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Dugway

I've read about that place & what's to make of "& south to Denver" bit?
Title: Re: Planning suggestions for Hillary win
Post by: Bigdave_185 on October 23, 2016, 01:14:35 AM
Doug way is sure a real neat place. They have all kinds of fun things going on


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