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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #100 on: June 03, 2019, 09:25:25 AM »
spent all that time on the seat brackets and you’re still using a napa bucket.

ohh well.. if it works it works!

Seat brackets may be ready, but the floor had to be cleaned. Bucket did work well though!!! I’d have to modify to floor mount a bit in order to make it permanent...

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« Reply #101 on: June 03, 2019, 02:57:01 PM »
Looks pretty good like it sits!


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« Reply #102 on: June 03, 2019, 07:16:18 PM »
Looks pretty good like it sits!


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« Reply #103 on: June 03, 2019, 08:04:29 PM »
Dunno.  I have a bug to do something not structural construction.

I have a bead on a 2008 F250 frame and both axles.  Will start working on a roller with a NV4500 and maybe a 2 speed transfer case to put with the 12V and then figure out what body to drop on it.

Got a lot to learn about straight axle trucks....


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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #104 on: June 03, 2019, 11:38:13 PM »
Got the seat brackets all painted up but no pictures. As well as the core support mounts painted, plus a few other bare steel spots on the frame.

Pulled transfer case and installed the adapter gasket so it would stop leaking.

Started brain storming how we’re going to install the twin sticks on the floor. Several options just trying to figure the best one. May modify the bracket that it currently sits in.



Talked with the wife about it when she got home, and we’re going to create some cardboard cutouts to see if we may want to move it further forward closer to the firewall. Which will also require cutting of the original bracket.


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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #105 on: June 03, 2019, 11:45:08 PM »
Dunno.  I have a bug to do something not structural construction.

I have a bead on a 2008 F250 frame and both axles.  Will start working on a roller with a NV4500 and maybe a 2 speed transfer case to put with the 12V and then figure out what body to drop on it.

Got a lot to learn about straight axle trucks....


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« Reply #106 on: June 04, 2019, 09:21:04 PM »

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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #107 on: June 04, 2019, 09:56:22 PM »
Dunno.  I have a bug to do something not structural construction.

I have a bead on a 2008 F250 frame and both axles.  Will start working on a roller with a NV4500 and maybe a 2 speed transfer case to put with the 12V and then figure out what body to drop on it.

Got a lot to learn about straight axle trucks....


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Remember what Norm said about a 12v and the sterling don't play well.

Well, he was talking about Don & Don’s built 12v and a sterling. There are a couple things you can do to beef them up though. The money in what Charles is looking at though is the front axle and radius arm suspension.
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« Reply #108 on: June 20, 2019, 09:01:27 PM »
Very little to report. Been working on filling orders which puts the truck off.

Found out today we are moving for work, so this needs to be done pronto.

Installed the seats and brackets to see how that all worked out, which it did pretty well. Maybe a little tall but nothing you can fix with a little cut and weld.





Then I attached all the coolant hoses and bypassed the heater core because it is not yet installed.



Made a bracket to replace the lost one for the dash so I can get the AC unit installed.



This is my bench vice



And found the transmission is leaking severely.



That’s where we are currently.


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« Reply #109 on: June 21, 2019, 09:45:34 PM »
So we cleaned the cab out, again. So we can get the sound deadening installed and do some interior painting.



We also cut a hole so we can install the twin stick shifter handle jig thing.

 

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« Reply #110 on: June 21, 2019, 10:48:39 PM »
Stateside or across a pond?
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« Reply #111 on: June 21, 2019, 10:57:48 PM »
Stateside or across a pond?

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« Reply #113 on: June 22, 2019, 10:57:50 PM »
So, in prep for many things we decided to strip and clean the mess before laying sound deaden. She worked with me yesterday and again today.

First we removed the rear window.



Then slathered the aircraft stripper all over things.



Ended up close to ready for direct to metal primer, and other layers of paint.



Outside needs some more cleaning but the majority of the paint has been removed.



Also filled the radiator and drove it around the lot a small amount. It goes and stops well.

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« Reply #114 on: June 22, 2019, 11:23:46 PM »
Stateside or across a pond?

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« Reply #115 on: June 22, 2019, 11:33:00 PM »
I see the boss is wearing don type foot gear....lol
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« Reply #116 on: June 22, 2019, 11:34:09 PM »
I’m impressed the better half was helping!  :likebutton:
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« Reply #117 on: June 23, 2019, 12:17:15 AM »
I’m impressed the better half was helping!  :likebutton:
I see the boss is wearing don type foot gear....lol


Nate, she put pants on so flip flops was ok. She want running the wire wheel on the grinder so I thought mostly ok.

Shawn, she has always taken an interest in it, just doesn’t know where to actually help. Usually it’s just “what did you get done today” but with needing a full size truck time now, she’s like let’s get it done.

She is taking a week off in July so we can begin the process of sorting what is going where, so we’re hoping to have it usable by that time.

If anybody is bored and wants to come help build come on down!

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« Reply #118 on: June 23, 2019, 06:13:22 PM »
Finished up the inside of the cab that will be getting paint, and almost all of the back side of the cab. Needs to be proper grit sanded for the direct to metal primer I will be using.





Everything you see that’s green will be covered by other materials, so We chose not to paint those areas.

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« Reply #119 on: June 23, 2019, 11:55:01 PM »


Does anybody have a need for a twin stick cable shifter?

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« Reply #120 on: June 24, 2019, 10:02:22 AM »
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« Reply #121 on: June 25, 2019, 12:49:26 AM »
More paint prep.... took a wire wheel to all the hard to reach spots, then sanded everything to 120grit.

Half way through the 120, can you tell which side :)



Fully 120 grit sanded.







Then finished out the night by putting down some direct to metal 2k stuff. I like how it sprays and the end result.





I probably should have done some body work on the rear of the cab, but opted not to in hopes to save a few hours of work right now.

I found that there is a “shop” in our new town that I can rent a paint booth from. Soo I may do a paint over in a couple years. At which point I will also pull dents and hammer/dolley some more.

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« Reply #122 on: June 25, 2019, 06:26:38 AM »
Looking great, Turner.  You need to have a “voodo” dent somewhere.  I believe that having a small dent wards off other dents.  If its perfect, you are bound to attract a dent....


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« Reply #123 on: June 25, 2019, 07:37:51 AM »
Looking great, Turner.  You need to have a “voodo” dent somewhere.  I believe that having a small dent wards off other dents.  If its perfect, you are bound to attract a dent....


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Thanks and Yea there is some weird truth in that. Our GMC we had got its first real dent by a log wife tossed just short. Was two years before the next one.

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« Reply #124 on: June 25, 2019, 08:32:44 AM »
I found that there is a “shop” in our new town that I can rent a paint booth from. Soo I may do a paint over in a couple years. At which point I will also pull dents and hammer/dolley some more.

the auto craft shop is not the best, but it does have lifts and all kinds of stuff for people to do this kind of work to their own vehicles without having to pay crazy high shop prices.  just a heads up, you will have to take their little class on shop safety before they will let you use anything.
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« Reply #125 on: June 25, 2019, 10:27:33 AM »
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« Reply #126 on: June 25, 2019, 05:49:46 PM »
I found that there is a “shop” in our new town that I can rent a paint booth from. Soo I may do a paint over in a couple years. At which point I will also pull dents and hammer/dolley some more.

the auto craft shop is not the best, but it does have lifts and all kinds of stuff for people to do this kind of work to their own vehicles without having to pay crazy high shop prices.  just a heads up, you will have to take their little class on shop safety before they will let you use anything.

Yea I’m familiar. The auto hobby shop on Lejeune was huge, and required you to watch a video class thing. They could easily shorten it to one sentence, but hey not my call, so I’ll get edumacted patiently!

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« Reply #127 on: June 25, 2019, 05:50:38 PM »
Stateside or across a pond?

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« Reply #128 on: June 25, 2019, 08:50:04 PM »
Stateside or across a pond?

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Nah it’s ok Chief, good for the career. You know how it goes.
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« Reply #129 on: June 28, 2019, 11:21:30 PM »
Paint is the order of the day, hopefully will get it finished up tomorrow. It’s probably too hot to be spraying but..... oh well.  Primer didn’t turn out very good but I’ll just smooth it out

Sanded everything, put a tiny pinch of bondo on some welds, taped the seams and then filled them with SEM, put truck back in garage and went to town with a qt of primer.









You can see the texture... pretty sure the paint was coming out basically dry or so I think. Too much activator maybe? I don’t know not a paint specialist. It certainly didn’t come out as nice as the first set of DTM primer or the firewall.


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« Reply #130 on: June 28, 2019, 11:35:48 PM »
Yep, dry. Maybe to far away?
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« Reply #131 on: June 29, 2019, 07:39:16 AM »
Been too long since I sprayed but might be air mixture. Need to be picking up more liquid.


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« Reply #132 on: June 29, 2019, 09:39:47 AM »
Been too long since I sprayed but might be air mixture. Need to be picking up more liquid.


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I wondered about this while spraying as I never could seem to get it dialed in. First coat went pretty well but still just not quite right. Oh well it had to be sanded for base coat anyways, just now it’s a little more than originally planned.

I should still end up with two solid coats of primer, plus the DTM under that.

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« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2019, 02:11:20 AM »
Ok, got a little further today, sanded it down this morning before we left for Tucson lightly with 120 to knock down the big stuff.... should have used 220.

Then came back this afternoon and everything got 320 treatment.





Then ate dinner and went back out for some color... 2qts and I’m sure plenty wasted... we have this.







This is pre sand of the base and pre clear coat. That will happen tomorrow. And this little piece will be done. Then only a roof, four doors, two fenders, and a hood to strip DTM, sand, prime, sand, base coat, sand, clear coat, buff and polish. I now understand why good paints shops charge a lot, Ive only done what, maybe an 1/8th of the total amount, I’ve easily got 40 hours into that probably lots more.

Lessons for others that might be thinking about doing this:

- best possible prep will save time in the long run.
-Proper equipment saves even more time. I’m using less than hobbyist tools, but getting it done.
-Mix less up front so you don’t end up wasting, especially base coat as it can be quickly mixed and sprayed without sanding in between coats, it’ll Save you money.
-start by stripping everything, vs working in sections, will save you time by reducing feathering and matching at a later date. Also would allow you to spray the excess you may have foolish mixed.... speaking from experience
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« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2019, 09:32:00 AM »
Only thing I would mention is that you shouldn't sand between base and clear, if at all possible.
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« Reply #135 on: June 30, 2019, 12:41:28 PM »
Only thing I would mention is that you shouldn't sand between base and clear, if at all possible.


I don’t think I have a way around it if I want it to be smooth. The section that was really textured with primer ended up textured with basecoat. Was going to hit it with something like 8-1200 in hopes to knock down the texture. It’s not orange peel, it’s that crappy too far away maybe drying from the gun spray stuff. Like a dust, or possibly an effect of the instant humidity when I started.

Should I just clear 7 coats and polish that smooth?
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« Reply #136 on: June 30, 2019, 03:50:29 PM »
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).


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« Reply #137 on: June 30, 2019, 05:08:15 PM »
You gonna post up a pic of the gear you're using, or should I..as payback for that comment?!?!

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« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2019, 05:31:31 PM »
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).



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« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2019, 08:16:48 PM »
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).



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why so mean to ken?

I never mentioned any names....

But since Ken did ask about my poor mans spray gun...



Everything I’ve sprayed so far has been with this 30$ siphon gun with 1-1.5” spray pattern.

Picked up a 10$ gun from harbor fraught I’m going to try in hopes it’ll cover better, question is whether or not our compressor will operate it... eh I’ve wasted more money on lesser items so what’s the harm.

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« Reply #140 on: June 30, 2019, 08:19:45 PM »
On a different note, (kind of) what are the suggested cutting buffing polishing compounds to use? Mixtures of the above?

All three rigs need some attention. Wish I could just park hers and pick it back up three - 4 years from right now.

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« Reply #141 on: June 30, 2019, 11:57:29 PM »
Ok, if at first you fail, ask for pointers and try again.

The critter spray gun you see above works, no denying that. It however had a lot of waste due to overspray. I made it work, for the most part, just slowly.

Then came today, and I was talking with Ken, and I thank you sir for the pointers, he suggested I try a low voc spray gun, so
I suggested the 10$ harbor fraught, and purchased it because it would probably spray better no matter what than the critter.

It did, significantly. As in the critter cost WAY MORE than it’s worth due to over spray.

In trying to put another layer of clear on tonight with the 10$ spray gun, I had a mishap and wasted well over half of the clear I had left, literally by it just flowing out of the gun.... I made a huge mistake and missed installing the spring to keep the valve closed.

Once properly fixed and the little bit of clear still in the tank, I went to spraying. 5 minutes later I had the inside of the cab that is getting paint, cleared for a HEAVY third time, and started on the back then ran out.

Unfortunate and mildly expensive learning experience, but learning has occurred none the less.

Ken, thank you for suggesting to try a different spray gun for my tiny compressor. 

Sorry for the long post but hopefully someone else can learn from my mistakes.

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« Reply #142 on: July 01, 2019, 08:56:56 AM »
After taking with a local-ish hot weather car repairman painter builder guy who supposedly has googly eyes for large unstable kankles, I went ahead and laid down the clear as thick as my gun would allow. Got two coats down going to let it cure and then do some smoothing (out of clear anyways).



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« Reply #143 on: July 02, 2019, 01:32:44 AM »
Tell you what, I have several of those HF guns and they work great. Got spares for just $10.
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« Reply #144 on: July 02, 2019, 09:53:06 PM »
So more sanding more painting.... probably not surprised I know. However, progress!



Of course new gun, and then hi temp activator, bound to have runs. I was using mid temp up until today, because that’s what I had.



I will get this cleaned up tomorrow evening and then polished.

Then finally we can make some real progress of re assembling the interior with sound deaden install and ac box install. I wanted this bit of paint done before sound deaden to keep the mess off it. Glad i waited for all this to be finished, it was never not a messy day.

And just because...



First in five years we’ve been successful in growing sunflowers. Such an easy plant supposedly! We’ve got a dozen or so this year.
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« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2019, 11:41:12 PM »
FINALLY, got this piece finished. It ain’t perfect, but I’ve never done all this paint work before. Probably could have got it even better, but this tiny little project has enough hours into it.



So in the theme of saving money I bought a polisher from harbor fraught, their variable speed 7” drill master. WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK!

It’s variable alright, so much so that it never holds constant speed and sometimes doesn’t even function. Thankfully I just picked it up a couple days ago, so it is going back.  DO NOT BUY DRILL MASTER POLISHER!

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« Reply #146 on: July 04, 2019, 12:30:50 AM »
Progress!  :likebutton:
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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #147 on: July 04, 2019, 10:17:58 PM »
Looks good from this angle!
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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #148 on: July 04, 2019, 10:24:32 PM »
Looks good from this angle!

It could be much better, BUT, since it’s going to be hidden anyways. Boss and I are happy with it.


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Re: 74 w200 cummins crew cab build
« Reply #149 on: July 04, 2019, 10:33:25 PM »
Ok, so with so much right now needing completion the boss came out and installed the first step of sound deadening while I worked on other pieces. We used a product called fatmat, and there is a better method to sound deaden but the guy closed up shop so we went with this as the first step.

Beginning of the day.





Here she has over half done and working on the driver side.



Laying down the final piece.



Finished product.







While she was working on that, one of the items needing addressed was the gas pedal/cable connection hole. So I turned a round hole into a square hole.






 

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