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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #300 on: December 10, 2018, 08:52:19 AM »
I was hoping for Teflon paint so the air doesn’t stick?


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« Reply #301 on: December 10, 2018, 09:39:32 AM »
Paint on the intake will help the tube not rust when the open air cleaner lets water in during T storms.  :grin:

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« Reply #302 on: December 10, 2018, 10:07:42 AM »
Can you say why you painted the inside of the intake tube?


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« Reply #303 on: December 10, 2018, 10:12:17 AM »
List of people who just got banned:

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Anyone named Dave
Nate
(Well, maybe Nate, I mean if I ban him, who's gonna work on the site fixin' stuff)
Any other no-good who doesn't make gud comments bout Don's work!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #304 on: December 10, 2018, 10:52:15 AM »
Can't even make the fun list anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just don't get the high end coils. Always heard they don't do a thing.
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« Reply #305 on: December 10, 2018, 10:59:45 AM »
Can't even make the fun list anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just don't get the high end coils. Always heard they don't do a thing.
Fun list?

No, that's "The wall of shame"

You're one of the very few goodins

Those other people are not good role models at all

Shameful really  ;-))

Ya, stock coils are fine, thanks, and I knew that

I have some LS experience. Built a 11 sec Camaro SS I owned

And I did the Hummer H2, a Caddy 6.2 and a Denali 6.2 too.

This one will be leaps and bounds ahead of those builds (Except for the Camaro) I have long been impressed with the potential in this little GM motor that could.
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« Reply #306 on: December 10, 2018, 12:15:35 PM »
Can't even make the fun list anymore,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Just don't get the high end coils. Always heard they don't do a thing.
Suck up


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« Reply #307 on: December 10, 2018, 02:58:50 PM »
Suck up

Jealous? I'm not "that" good, I just pic my battles,,,,,,,,


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500
« Reply #308 on: December 10, 2018, 03:03:32 PM »
Suck up ain't the same as jealous JR.
..crap I just sided with a trouble maker.
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Never mind..guessing you called Dave jealous.  Lol
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« Reply #309 on: December 10, 2018, 03:13:22 PM »
Go play with your new toy!
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« Reply #310 on: December 10, 2018, 03:16:18 PM »
Ken gets a new toy and gets all abrasive with everyone while trying to make a point!  Don't be so edgy Ken, sharpen that keen rapier whit of yours and go cut-up on someone else!

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« Reply #311 on: December 10, 2018, 04:08:00 PM »
The hostility on this place, can you believe it?

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« Reply #312 on: December 10, 2018, 05:10:21 PM »
Great burn Mike. That's all I have.
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« Reply #313 on: December 10, 2018, 06:02:15 PM »
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« Reply #314 on: December 10, 2018, 07:18:20 PM »
Great burn Mike. That's all I have.

You actually work, I just hone that punnyness on SA teenagers over the last 33 years!
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« Reply #315 on: December 10, 2018, 07:24:45 PM »
Great burn Mike. That's all I have.

You actually work, I just hone that punnyness on SA teenagers over the last 33 years!
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« Reply #316 on: December 10, 2018, 07:29:21 PM »
Don's 64th build/gossip thread...

So as I got busy starting on the headers and exhaust, I got tangled up with the spare and spent some time wranglin' through all of that. Anyway, in true "Don" fashion I'll get a bit more involved in the project with a divergence or two. You see pulling on stuff, old stuff, I got some Oregon dirt in my Mark-1 eyeballs and decided right then and there, that this truck gets a good pressure washing before all that purdy new stuff goes on.

Pressure washin' begat some weather proofin' and paintin' n' such, so I think I saw some of the exhaust system off to get more access to what lies beneath and get that done in the morrow
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« Reply #317 on: December 10, 2018, 07:37:02 PM »
So now we know for sure, 14 bolt semi floater  :cry:

Yea, I know its OK, but I really wanted a FF hangin out back there
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« Reply #318 on: December 10, 2018, 07:39:04 PM »
All the stock stuff is still there. Spare looks period correct and the spare tire tools which will not be replaced or reused were complete in Chevy packaging. I think I'll sell that stuff off, unless someone on here actually needs it, then its shipping only.
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« Reply #319 on: December 10, 2018, 07:40:40 PM »
Things got dicey when I tried my best to lower the spare tire the normal way. Something wasn't meshing and I never got the tire winch to move! I ended up cutting the tire retainer off and just dropped the tire
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« Reply #320 on: December 10, 2018, 07:50:02 PM »
Next up, the spare tire which will move to the back bumper shortly is supported by a heavy cross member and a backing plate. I always pull that junk and save the weight. I think all in total I'm somewhere between 75-100 lbs removed today. That total is getting up there, and will grow as I replace that massively huge stock exhaust system and replace with the lightweight stainless stuff.

And here it is, all gone!
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« Reply #321 on: December 10, 2018, 07:52:06 PM »
And

We see this truck has the dual tank thing going on

Good sized sucker, what close to 10 gallons??
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« Reply #322 on: December 10, 2018, 07:54:41 PM »
Wait,  that thing has dual tanks? I don't believe I've had one of those in the shop, in that body style.
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« Reply #323 on: December 10, 2018, 07:56:00 PM »
That tank will likely stay, although I could fab a tank that got a bunch deeper if I took a notion to do so, we'll see.

Look at all the junk liberated from my truck. That stuff will NOT be going back on
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« Reply #324 on: December 10, 2018, 08:00:25 PM »
Wait,  that thing has dual tanks? I don't believe I've had one of those in the shop, in that body style.
BK (Brother Ken), you see it. Pretty sure it's not a DEF tank or smugglers device, so my monnee sez its a gas tank!
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« Reply #325 on: December 10, 2018, 08:02:24 PM »
Next up, these are history...CYA
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« Reply #326 on: December 10, 2018, 08:04:10 PM »
That's all I got through today

I would have had the exhaust off, but monkeying with that spare tire took a bunch of time up. Stay tuned...
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« Reply #327 on: December 10, 2018, 08:06:03 PM »
Oh and BTW, that air intake made no difference at all save a bit more noise (Of the good kind) and it looks performance oriented.

But

When a cammed six liter starts gulping loads of air, in that engine bay, it will weigh in substantially
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« Reply #328 on: December 10, 2018, 08:06:23 PM »
Things got dicey when I tried my best to lower the spare tire the normal way. Something wasn't meshing and I never got the tire winch to move! I ended up cutting the tire retainer off and just dropped the tire

They never function properly on those GM’s, I believe there is an official GM bulletin that in fact states you have to cut the retainer to use the spare. It’s really handy when your tire blows crossing the Ohio river on I75 north bound into Cinci, not that I have any experience with that... :popcorn:
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« Reply #329 on: December 10, 2018, 08:08:40 PM »
Things got dicey when I tried my best to lower the spare tire the normal way. Something wasn't meshing and I never got the tire winch to move! I ended up cutting the tire retainer off and just dropped the tire

They never function properly on those GM’s, I believe there is an official GM bulletin that in fact states you have to cut the retainer to use the spare. It’s really handy when your tire blows crossing the Ohio river on I75 north bound into Cinci, not that I have any experience with that... :popcorn:
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« Reply #330 on: December 10, 2018, 08:28:06 PM »
I have had to cut two off of the trucks in the past, the current spare tires doesn’t fit there anyway so it’s be all removed


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« Reply #331 on: December 10, 2018, 09:27:32 PM »
Things got dicey when I tried my best to lower the spare tire the normal way. Something wasn't meshing and I never got the tire winch to move! I ended up cutting the tire retainer off and just dropped the tire

They never function properly on those GM’s, I believe there is an official GM bulletin that in fact states you have to cut the retainer to use the spare. It’s really handy when your tire blows crossing the Ohio river on I75 north bound into Cinci, not that I have any experience with that... :popcorn:
That’s not a good place to blow a tire anytime. The fact there is no where to pull over anywhere close is bad enough, the other irate idiot drivers make it even more dangerous.


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« Reply #332 on: December 10, 2018, 09:30:26 PM »
Things got dicey when I tried my best to lower the spare tire the normal way. Something wasn't meshing and I never got the tire winch to move! I ended up cutting the tire retainer off and just dropped the tire

They never function properly on those GM’s, I believe there is an official GM bulletin that in fact states you have to cut the retainer to use the spare. It’s really handy when your tire blows crossing the Ohio river on I75 north bound into Cinci, not that I have any experience with that... :popcorn:
That’s not a good place to blow a tire anytime. The fact there is no where to pull over anywhere close is bad enough, the other irate idiot drivers make it even more dangerous.


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« Reply #333 on: December 11, 2018, 08:23:42 AM »
That's all I got through today

I would have had the exhaust off, but monkeying with that spare tire took a bunch of time up. Stay tuned...
So you’re saying your spare tire was getting in your way?  Sounds like time for a new exercise program. :)

Let me know if you need someone to throw headers at, or someone to take pictures as you’re dropping exhaust parts on your head.


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« Reply #334 on: December 11, 2018, 08:49:33 AM »
That's all I got through today

I would have had the exhaust off, but monkeying with that spare tire took a bunch of time up. Stay tuned...
So you’re saying your spare tire was getting in your way?  Sounds like time for a new exercise program. :)

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« Reply #335 on: December 11, 2018, 11:04:26 AM »
Guess I should check my spare operation. Got a 35 to hang there but would like it to come down when asked.
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« Reply #336 on: December 11, 2018, 11:09:13 AM »
Guess I should check my spare operation. Got a 35 to hang there but would like it to come down when asked.
How’d you manage to get a 35 under there? I didn’t think anything bigger than a 285 would fit.


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« Reply #337 on: December 11, 2018, 11:18:15 AM »
I had my bfg there but couldn’t get the nitto.   To wide and rubbed on my differential


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« Reply #338 on: December 11, 2018, 02:56:48 PM »
Things got dicey when I tried my best to lower the spare tire the normal way. Something wasn't meshing and I never got the tire winch to move! I ended up cutting the tire retainer off and just dropped the tire

They never function properly on those GM’s, I believe there is an official GM bulletin that in fact states you have to cut the retainer to use the spare. It’s really handy when your tire blows crossing the Ohio river on I75 north bound into Cinci, not that I have any experience with that... :popcorn:

The plastic gear teeth in the winch assembly bring the tire up, but most people get them caught on the receiver or the backside of the bumper, and crank and crank until there's some nice flat spots once they get it all the way up. they're not very waterproof, either, so couple corrosion with a flywheel missing some teeth and she'll go up but not back down, not without a fat guy hanging off the spare. like Shawn, pulled that move in the snow at night on US2.
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« Reply #339 on: December 11, 2018, 03:27:02 PM »
How do you get a flat in the snow Tate?
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« Reply #340 on: December 11, 2018, 05:59:44 PM »
Got some more done, but have domestic stuff to do before posting.

Question: Before and after the cats about transfer case longitude there are a couple of O2 sensors. The new exhaust has no where to mount them, so what do I do?
I'm thinking there is an O2 sensor "Fooler" plugin that attaches to the wiring harness and keeps the computer happy. Am I correct?
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« Reply #341 on: December 11, 2018, 07:06:53 PM »
Hope you are not going too radical on the cat back system. I did and man was it loud inside the cab.

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« Reply #342 on: December 11, 2018, 07:40:01 PM »
Sometimes the front 02s are not heated and the rears are.

Tuning could fix all that, but 02s are good for closed loop running.
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« Reply #343 on: December 11, 2018, 08:31:13 PM »
Hope you are not going too radical on the cat back system. I did and man was it loud inside the cab.
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Now it has a straight through 4" muffla' so that does not speak to quiet running. But I have a trick or two up my sleeve. Remember that discarded MBRP 4" muffler off C-Max??? Well, it wouldn't be unusual for me to run two mufflers, in line to tone down the noise. I do not like loud exhausts.
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« Reply #344 on: December 11, 2018, 08:31:39 PM »
Sometimes the front 02s are not heated and the rears are.

Tuning could fix all that, but 02s are good for closed loop running.
They are heated, they are 4-wire sensors
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« Reply #345 on: December 11, 2018, 08:33:23 PM »
So today with the help of a new recip saw I picked up at HF, I cut off the factory monstrosity of an exhaust. THis is going to be another big weight savings.

Starting here aft of a really big muffler
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« Reply #346 on: December 11, 2018, 08:34:09 PM »
Just look at all of this stuff!
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« Reply #347 on: December 11, 2018, 08:35:22 PM »
My hand serves as a point to compare the huge volume of that muffler. It almost looks like it just stores up the exhaust, never expelling it!
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« Reply #348 on: December 11, 2018, 08:37:07 PM »
It's way too heavy, too complicated, just space hoggin, performance killin unnecessary hippie junk!
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« Reply #349 on: December 11, 2018, 08:39:48 PM »
And the new system side by side.

The new system is not a bolt on. I'll have to cut it at the point where the two 3" pipes blend into the 4" diameter of the massive muffler connection. I have done this before, twice. Not a big deal really, just work
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