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Title: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:47:00 PM
I have the need to haul quantities of water to various spots for drinking, washing, and construction uses. Be it from water for concrete to washing some equipment, I need to have the water mobile.

I also have the need to take fuel to my heavy equipment. Those pieces of equipment can suck up 60 gallons at a time. Driving a 55,000 lb excavator a half mile to a fuel station is just not practical.

The fuel tanks with pump can run well over a thousand dollars, and although nice, are far above what I require. So in this HMMV trailer I have I plan to siamese two 55 gal metal drums and plumb them up for a pump run by an organic 12 volt battery. The water will likewise be pressurized through a organic pump and routed to some standard faucets for convenience

We going to start with the old Armee trailer which has been serving me well for a few years now.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:49:17 PM
Its ugly, I know. But that thing would hide very well under a cedar tree and it has managed to stay in my possession all this time!

First order of business is removal of the existing 325 gal tank and everything else that has accumulated in there
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:49:54 PM
And, yes, its nasty
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:50:48 PM
I had some water exposed to sunlight for a month or so and the algae growth that took place is startling!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:52:19 PM
After disassembly, I fired up that old tried and true pressure washer and got after it
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:53:05 PM
Then came the water tank. It cleaned up like new!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 09:59:55 PM
The next day it is all dried up.

Please note that this is military CART paint. If you breath the dust from that stuff you can develop a nasty cancer. CART paint is much more than just paint. The highly modified formula is actually designed to absorb and hold nerve toxin and some other weaponized chemicals, hopefully preventing those nasties from spreading onto a soldiers skin and subsequently killing him. A pin sized droplet of VX is all it takes to kill you in 45 seconds after contact. Almost as bad as having to listen to or look at Antifa protesters dressed up as female genitalia (As they seem to like doing)

So, I am not going to sand that stuff at all. Nope, just spray paint over it and hope for the best.

I did, however mask the lighted and cool data plates off
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:01:53 PM
GCI paint is oil based enamel and is mixed to the exact mil-spec colors of the era represented by that color.

I used the Army Jeep Paint, WW2 color for Square D, a truck I used to have, which is now covered by dust and ruined again!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:06:30 PM
But this time I monkeyed with the color a bit to make it mine. Reason is, this particular gallon is the color the Armee used after ww2 and into the Korean war. It shifted toward a green with a muddy brown hue, not my fav...

So I opened up the safe. You see, I have been investing in some John Deere green paint, hoping it will be as valuable as they seem to think those tractors are. I pulled a quart and poured it into the Armee slurry to come up with "John Armee Green" a new color previously known to nobody (And that's a good thing!)
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:08:23 PM
Matching the color, will, of course be impossible, but ask me if I care?

Then I thinned the goop and added some hardener to keep the inevitable dog claw marks as minimally destructive as possible
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:11:29 PM
That "Majic" paint is cheap old tractor and implement paint from TSC and very affordable.

For the next 3.5 hours I sprayed and sprayed till I's could spray no more!

And all that turned the trailer John Armee green and placed a smile on my tired face
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2017, 10:12:10 PM
Fifteen minutes later the paint all fell off!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on August 25, 2017, 10:23:13 PM
I like it!!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 26, 2017, 08:05:11 AM
You mean this stuff??
http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_camo_carc2.php

Interesting. If I ever get some mil equip I'll remember not to sand



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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Nate on August 26, 2017, 09:50:37 AM
  :likebutton:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:32:21 PM
You mean this stuff??
http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_camo_carc2.php

Interesting. If I ever get some mil equip I'll remember not to sand



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That's it Tex...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2017, 09:35:27 PM
Being that this is dumb old oil based enamel, albeit with hardener, I am going to give it 48 hours to cure before continuing with this build out.
At S+24 (Spraying time) the finish is hard and completely dry to the touch. Allowing it all day in the sun and another 24 hours should do the trick. I could be back on it by tomorrow
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 26, 2017, 10:02:27 PM
Purdy


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on August 26, 2017, 11:13:18 PM
I'm looking at one of these locally, just trying to figure out what I'd use it for. It would be great for farm duty me thinks.
http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bob Smith on August 26, 2017, 11:40:30 PM

I'm looking at one of these locally, just trying to figure out what I'd use it for. It would be great for farm duty me thinks.
http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/ (http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/)


You own a farm? Maybe just park it on the line and call it a day. You will find a use as time goes by. Looks like you could haul your tuck legal, but what would you use to move it then.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Nate on August 27, 2017, 01:15:12 AM
I'm looking at one of these locally, just trying to figure out what I'd use it for. It would be great for farm duty me thinks.
http://surplusmilitarydepot.com/m1061a1-military-10k-flatbed-trailer-extream-duty/

Honestly that is exactly what don should be using instead of that small trailer.............
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on August 27, 2017, 11:21:47 AM
Bob, no but Don does.
What would I haul it with? ... probably have something that would work.
(Those are purpose built to go behind a 5 ton)

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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Nate on August 27, 2017, 02:00:09 PM
Bob, no but Don does.
What would I haul it with? ... probably have something that would work.
(Those are purpose built to go behind a 5 ton)

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Correct ken, that purpose is actually hauling fuel or water pods


Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on August 27, 2017, 03:15:25 PM
Just looked up the specs on the M1061A1...wow:

Model Flatbed Trailer (M1061)
NSN Number NSN 2330-01-207-3533
GVWR 15,850 Lbs.
Curb Weight 5,850 Lbs.
Tires 12x16.5 LT Tubeless
Wheels 8.25x20 Steel 6-Hole
Dual Axles 20,000 Lbs. Rating
Suspension System Heavy Duty Leaf Spring
Frame Construction Square Tube
Towing Style Lunette (Pintle Connection)
Landing Legs 4, One at Each Corner Beneath Trailer Deck
Brake System Air/Over/Hydraulic
Lights and Service Military Style 24 Volt System
Cargo Tie-Downs MIL-STD-209
Width 96"
Length 242.62"
Height 37"
Environmental Corrosion MIL-DTL-53072 (CARC Paint)
Prime Mover Towing Pintle Connection

Have we dotted this up enough yet?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 27, 2017, 04:58:59 PM
Don, when did you camo up the trailer and what was wrong with water tank on there?

Paint did come out nice.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2017, 07:01:43 PM
Don, when did you camo up the trailer and what was wrong with water tank on there?

Paint did come out nice.
I played around spraying lines on it a couple years, or maybe a year ago, can't recall.

Nothing wrong with it with the water tank on it. Same water tank going right back on in fact, along with a fuel container.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 27, 2017, 07:24:08 PM
Will one of those big square ones fit in there or just a few 55 drums?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2017, 08:42:08 PM
Will one of those big square ones fit in there or just a few 55 drums?
Plan is 55 gal drums...2 or 3
inexpensive
Quick
did I mention inexpensive?
Need room for a 12 volt battery, a water pump, some plumbing and stuff...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 27, 2017, 09:10:09 PM
Plenty of room for that. I thought about adding tanks under mine but that is another project not needed now.

Mount a battery in front where the can went and keep it up with a solar.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:00:59 PM
OK, back on this thing

Plan changed somewhat, as you will see in a little bit

I painted the tank with a whole bunch of two part epoxy paint sealer. Idea being it's hard, and should keep the interior dark to prevent algae from growing
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:02:12 PM
I painted over the trailer support legs as well to get a top coat over the carc paint

I'll make them OD or flat black or something
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:03:00 PM
Managed to keep overspray to a minimum
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:05:17 PM
Here's where I diverged from the original plan where I was going to siamese a couple 55 gal steel drums to hold the fuel.

This tank was on special at tractor supply company, so I splurged and got a ready made 100 gal fuel tank purpose made for this application
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
Reduced from $369 down to $310, good enough!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
And I picked up another 12VDC electric fuel pump
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:08:42 PM
The vented fill cap went in first
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:10:53 PM
Then I ran into my first problem

The extendable fuel pick up tube was too long for this tank
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:15:28 PM
It is not just a simple matter of cutting off the end

You have to trim off both ends of the extendable part, but that sacrifices the o-ring seal

So I cut both ends and stretched some O-Rings over the inner pipe and shoved the business back together.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:16:51 PM
Then the pump was twisted into place and everything seemed to fit OK
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:18:04 PM
Then I attached a fuel filter to the pump using a 3/4" NPT nipple
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
This pump came with ten feet of 3/4" hose. I felt that was a bit too short, so I added another fourteen foot section to it. That should allow me to approach to a safe and stable position if, say, the excavator is semi submerged in some pond and be able to safely fuel it without sinking or tipping my trailer
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2017, 09:24:27 PM
Next the hand nozzle went on and that was all she wrote for available time...Off to football practice.

I didn't realize it, but this middle school team the little pre-ranger plays is amongst the best in the state. They went undefeated last season and only gave up four touchdowns all season long. Our first game last week, our guys destroyed the other team, 44-6. I was really hopping the guests would at least score one TD on their opening game, but that's all they got. Our guys didn't allow the point after either!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 30, 2017, 11:29:54 PM
I like the paint. Ready made tank is a time saver too and 15gpm, sweet!

Have you thought about a cover for that trailer? Keep all that stuff out of direct weather. Looking at mine I was thinking about running a piece of metal along the rail, then add small posts to that. Bend some conduit into "U" shapes and your are done. Works great on my little trailer, but I mounted the posts right to it with bolts.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 30, 2017, 11:34:48 PM
Insert tac top photo please !


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Atkinsmatt on August 31, 2017, 07:48:42 AM
I use the same pump setup on my tank.  I would recommend the swivel for the fuel line to save wear and tear on the hose at the filter end.  I learned that lesson and added a swivel while replacing the line.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2017, 09:34:25 AM
I like the paint. Ready made tank is a time saver too and 15gpm, sweet!

Have you thought about a cover for that trailer? Keep all that stuff out of direct weather. Looking at mine I was thinking about running a piece of metal along the rail, then add small posts to that. Bend some conduit into "U" shapes and your are done. Works great on my little trailer, but I mounted the posts right to it with bolts.
I like that idea JR!
I was just going to tie down a tarp across the stuff, but this looks a whole lot better.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: mjmbrown on August 31, 2017, 01:55:15 PM
I just replaced the fuel pump on my toyhauler with that same style of pump, I became a pro at disassembly and "thinning/shaving" of the plastic pump gears after the fuel would cause them to swell and seize the pump solid. motor would sound like it was locked up and I got no flow, lots on the web about this issue. I even considered having a machine shop turn some custom billet gears to replace until I saw how much they wanted   :sad:.... I don't know how else you would keep this from happening...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2017, 03:41:52 PM
I just replaced the fuel pump on my toyhauler with that same style of pump, I became a pro at disassembly and "thinning/shaving" of the plastic pump gears after the fuel would cause them to swell and seize the pump solid. motor would sound like it was locked up and I got no flow, lots on the web about this issue. I even considered having a machine shop turn some custom billet gears to replace until I saw how much they wanted   :sad:.... I don't know how else you would keep this from happening...
Oh NO!

I own two of them!

I'm running a combination of lacquer thinner, sulfuric acid, paint remover in one tank...Sure hope the stuff doesn't melt those gears ;-)
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: EL TATE on August 31, 2017, 04:34:52 PM
You left out acetone,  :grin:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on August 31, 2017, 05:24:19 PM
I just replaced the fuel pump on my toyhauler with that same style of pump, I became a pro at disassembly and "thinning/shaving" of the plastic pump gears after the fuel would cause them to swell and seize the pump solid. motor would sound like it was locked up and I got no flow, lots on the web about this issue. I even considered having a machine shop turn some custom billet gears to replace until I saw how much they wanted   :sad:.... I don't know how else you would keep this from happening...
When I "rebuilt" my toyhauler recently, I replaced the gears in the fuel pump, cleaned the tank, and use it at least every 2 months to keep the varnish out of the gears....last week I went to use it, and it was locked up again. urrr
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Nate on August 31, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
why do all kinds of fiddling with bending pipe and such when you can just buy the correct tarp and bow set for those trailers.......?

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartsList/161/TLRPRT

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/military-vehicle-parts.html?limit=all&mode=list

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&oq=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i21k1.3029.3792.0.4454.2.2.0.0.0.0.118.188.1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.70.5PbPJKVh96M

just to name a couple of sites.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Sammconn on August 31, 2017, 06:39:09 PM
why do all kinds of fiddling with bending pipe and such when you can just buy the correct tarp and bow set for those trailers.......?

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartsList/161/TLRPRT

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/military-vehicle-parts.html?limit=all&mode=list

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&oq=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i21k1.3029.3792.0.4454.2.2.0.0.0.0.118.188.1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.70.5PbPJKVh96M

just to name a couple of sites.
But this doesn't cost money (as much), skin, blood etc.
Thinking tac topper...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 31, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
I found a cover for mine in So Cal for $600, now they are 1200.

Cool sites.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2017, 11:08:37 PM
why do all kinds of fiddling with bending pipe and such when you can just buy the correct tarp and bow set for those trailers.......?

https://www.easternsurplus.net/PartsList/161/TLRPRT

http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/military-vehicle-parts.html?limit=all&mode=list

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&oq=us+army+hmmwv+trailer+tarp+set&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i21k1.3029.3792.0.4454.2.2.0.0.0.0.118.188.1j1.2.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.70.5PbPJKVh96M

just to name a couple of sites.
$1125!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nate
What are you smokin?????
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 31, 2017, 11:20:17 PM
The conduit works great. Tarps are cheap and the 1101 even has loops for straps.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
The conduit works great. Tarps are cheap and the 1101 even has loops for straps.
I liked the idea the second I read it

Rain tomorrow from the Hurricane, so I'll run out and score a pile of conduit, then spend the day fabbing up a cage.

Cover that with something like my wife's old quilt that I can't stand and off we go to the races!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 31, 2017, 11:31:49 PM
I used 4 posts on my little trailer (old chevy love) that has a flat rail I simply drilled into and used long bolts through pipe.

I think 4 would be fine on the 1101 but I would use 1 in.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on August 31, 2017, 11:38:40 PM
I used 4 posts on my little trailer (old chevy love) that has a flat rail I simply drilled into and used long bolts through pipe.

I think 4 would be fine on the 1101 but I would use 1 in.
Well, when I was thinking it over I thought I'd weld longitudinal bars in to connect all of the hoops. Four sound reasonable, although I was thinking of making six. The trailer already has holes in the top rail through which I could run bolts. My idea is to bend the hoops, weld a nut up inside of the tube, then bolt through from the bottom. Simple enough and easily done

I'll fuss with it some tomorrow. I got both tanks mounted today along with a faucet mounted through the back wall. I'll post up pics tomorrow.

Had to rush off for another football game. Pre-Ranger's team smoked up another school tonight. 24-6 this time. that makes 2-0 and have scored 68 points and allowed only 12 points against them. Mine plays center and all over the defense this year.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on August 31, 2017, 11:45:07 PM
Congrads on the wins, must be great to watch. Daughter does cross country. I go but its a yawner.

Looking at all the mounts on the 1101, I thought a piece of 1/8 bar with posts welded on. Tarping it squeezes the out hoops so a simple brace could be in order on top.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2017, 08:28:54 AM
I missed the prices. $1200 yikes!
So yeah, bend some hoops and tarp it.
Given its Big D I'd have to agree minimum 3/4" but 1" likely best (thin wall)
If it's rigid conduit, the 3/4 would likely suffice.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Nate on September 01, 2017, 10:05:43 AM
Hey now!

Im just trying to prevent another tac topper incident from happening. .......
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 01, 2017, 10:33:10 AM
Hey now!

Im just trying to prevent another tac topper incident from happening. .......

Yeah, we don't need another one of those!!   :likebutton:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 11:14:56 AM
Hey now!

Im just trying to prevent another tac topper incident from happening. .......
Hey G.I., you thinky me rich or sometin'??

Besides, the Tac topper was werkin' just got a bit heavy...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
I missed the prices. $1200 yikes!
So yeah, bend some hoops and tarp it.
Given its Big D I'd have to agree minimum 3/4" but 1" likely best (thin wall)
If it's rigid conduit, the 3/4 would likely suffice.

I'm not that hard on stuff...It's just that stuff isn't as tough as it used to be! ;-)
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 01, 2017, 11:23:17 AM
That 3/4 is stout on the little trailer but is only 5ft across.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:22:11 PM
That 3/4 is stout on the little trailer but is only 5ft across.
Mine is over 7 feet across.
Went to the lumber yard. They had 1/2", 3/4", but no 1"
I'll swing over to SLOWES tomorrow
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 01, 2017, 08:31:23 PM
With being it comes in 10ft lengths it will only be about 16in high with the bends.

May want to join them in the center so you get more height out of it plus they are a little cheaper in a 10 pack.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:51:51 PM
With being it comes in 10ft lengths it will only be about 16in high with the bends.

May want to join them in the center so you get more height out of it plus they are a little cheaper in a 10 pack.
Good idea.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:53:01 PM
First fitting of the water tank with the fuel tank...It was looking pretty tight
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:54:14 PM
I upsized the hose all the way to 3/4" with a corresponding fitting. It is a straight rascal, and that is going to prove to be a problem
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:55:48 PM
With the H2O tank temporarily removed, I scooted the fuel tank around until I found a good spot, forward and offset to the left. That position allows easier servicing and room for the hose
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:57:49 PM
I was able to hit all four bolts in the back, but none in the front side. THings are tight, and there is a whole lot of steel frame in the front. I estimate I might have needed an eight inch long bolt to get through everything!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 08:59:10 PM
For the front, I ran two cargo straps through the loops affixed to the tank, and anchored them to the trailer's built in lifting eye, "D" rings
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:00:21 PM
I painted the trailer aft legs OD green, then secured them, pinning in the cargo strap tie-downs.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
Like I mentioned, things is ah' tight!

The second pic has the water tank touching the fuel tank
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:03:36 PM
Which means the trailer tailgate will not close!  :angry:

Next I fastened the 24 foot hose to the filter
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:04:38 PM
This faucet is going into that hole
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:05:58 PM
Which provides a good spot to protect it brom some offending tree or excavator part
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:07:03 PM
Gravity feed for now to keep this project simple. I do have a pump on the ready if I need it
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:08:21 PM
I'll find a 90 fitting to gain an inch or three, but even with, the gate will not close, so I will just live with it. Tank strappage is just starting to happen at this point
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 01, 2017, 09:13:36 PM
Good start. No way to jockey the tank to clear the fitting? Add a fitting under the filler, lots of flat area it looks like?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2017, 09:15:58 PM
Good start. No way to jockey the tank to clear the fitting? Add a fitting under the filler, lots of flat area it looks like?
I considered blocking that off and installing a bulkhead fitting somewhere else. Jury is still out on that one. Not completely done, and not super comfortable with boring a hole in the side of that tank...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
It looks like there may be room foreword of the tank, or was that pre strapping?
Just rotate the tank a few degrees, and move the bung out of the way.
Unless it will still be in the way of other stuff.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 01, 2017, 10:46:57 PM
I was able to hit all four bolts in the back, but none in the front side. THings are tight, and there is a whole lot of steel frame in the front. I estimate I might have needed an eight inch long bolt to get through everything!

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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 01, 2017, 11:15:36 PM
A little left from s good idea but what about warming up the plastic tank and molding it a little tighter into the fuel tank.  Risky for sure but doable with a good heat gun and some thick gloves


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 02, 2017, 12:17:01 AM
I think he just needs a bigger hammer and work on that tail gate a bit......

I mean he owns heavy equipment, hook that trailer to a tree & use the bucket on the excavator to massage the tail gate a little...... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 02, 2017, 01:00:52 AM
Come on guys, lets be a little more serious here. He could easily cut one side of that tank off, with a chainsaw, and it would clear the tailgate. Bending the tailgate seems a little extreme.  :)
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 02, 2017, 08:22:03 AM
Don will a big extension on a drill/driver and some self drilling screws not work on the front of that fuel tank?


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 02, 2017, 09:12:38 AM
I was thinking rotate the water tank a bit counter clockwise might work?  Of course Shawn and Ken had valid ideas too..... :shocked:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 02, 2017, 09:27:33 AM
You can't rotate it because it has molded sides for wheel wells, check the photos in post 75


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 02, 2017, 02:27:07 PM
There is room for rotation, evidently not enough as it's already pointed toward 5:30.  Don, what if you mounted the large screw in bung from the inside and mounted the hose end 180 degrees opposite from how its is now?  Hose would be recessed inside tank allowing just the hose to protrude almost even with the exterior of the tank.  Obviously this would require inserting a pre-ranger by their ankles to screw it in the interior and also depend upon the threads extending all the way to the inside as well.  Just thinking outside the box/inside the tank!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2017, 07:51:48 PM
I was thinking rotate the water tank a bit counter clockwise might work?  Of course Shawn and Ken had valid ideas too..... :shocked:
Shawn and ken are brain dead, certifiable, of course! ;-)))

No one listens to em!

The tank is already rotated as much as it will go...And I was just at HD and forgot the dang blast 90 fitting!!!!!!!!

What kind of cut with the chain saw??? And what pitch chain? 8-0
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2017, 07:55:11 PM
I picked up 14 pieces of conduit.

Check this out. At the local lumber yard, they were asking $15.60 for one stick of 3/4"
I ended up going with 3/4" because I am going to build a lot more than just four hoops. Anyway, I paid $3.84 a stick at HD!

I picked up some 1.5" and some 3/4" gray PVC also to bury for a new circuit running from the shed addition to the camper and shelter additions. I'll have the load to carry more heater for this coming cold spell.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 03, 2017, 06:29:05 AM
Don I can't tell from the photos but can you notch the tailgate to clear the tank? Or just bow it out with the track hoe....


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 03, 2017, 11:45:51 AM
someone didn't read the comments from above^^^

(or maybe he did, and sided with the hippy?)
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 01:20:53 PM
someone didn't read the comments from above^^^

(or maybe he did, and sided with the hippy?)
Sorry Kenneth, still love ya man!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 03, 2017, 03:56:42 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
:popcorn:
Gotcha man, here goes:

So today I fetched all the parts for the hoop system. I decided to make it simple and quick, albeit gud-enough. That's a state of being where the darned thing can't be seen anyway, so let's just get this thing done already!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
Had to pause there for some spaghetti with the grand kids. The smallest one is wearing about half of it, and the rest was happily consumed. The middle of the pack girl when asked, "Who's your favorite, Poppy or the dog?", answered, "Poppy!" So I'm ridin an emotional high right now, having nudged out scout for the fav for the evening.

FYI, all you Armee trailer, HMMV style, owners out there. All those mystery holes contain a 3/8" SAE coarse thread nut-sert

Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 09:59:39 PM
So I fabbed up four pieces of angle which I salvaged from the Sawmill crate into the hoop bases which each catch two of the bolt holes
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:01:05 PM
The four corners present differently, so they each got their own mount as well. I had a bunch of frame bolts left over from the SquareD incomplete build, so I put them to work
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:02:05 PM
Using the supplied holes, the math worked out to having four hoops front to back
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:03:39 PM
I created the legs for the hoops from electrical conduit, following the suggestion from one of you boneheads. The leg length is 23"
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:06:22 PM
This is not an NHRA roll cage, and it doesn't need to be complicated. All it really needs is to stand up to the weight of a pre-ranger who undoubtedly will nap up there hiding from me so he can escape some work. I do believe in slavery and I think it all starts at home!

So  we will keep it stupid simple and just use electrical conduit sleeves and elbows and just screw the things together.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:07:13 PM
Starting with either stupid or simple, not sure yet, here's the legs:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
The cross bar is 68 7/8" long
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:08:52 PM
And just like that, I had four each legs looking for a place to stand!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:10:19 PM
Using clamps, a big square and my trusty assistant (to whom I'm married) I applied sparks to where things touched and it became like a man and a woman in marriage (As one).
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:12:52 PM
Here is an actual, not staged, shot of her holding things together prior to tacking. Saw this and had a flashback...I thought I was downtown Kandahar looking at a woman or a sack of rice...Appearances are similar.

She fears the sparks!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:14:54 PM
In as much time as democratic pollsters can change a hundred ballots, I had all four standin' at attention, awaiting follow on orders!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:18:38 PM
I was going to leave it that way for the evening, but one of the curtain climbers was eyeing the setup. He was seeing a playground jungle gym thing, so I decided to start reinforcing the thing.

First up is two longitudinal braces just down from the elbow. I'll create a strong box below, then work off that to brace up the roof areas

And that was all I felt like sweating over today...Off to shower land and spaghetti...Yippee!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 03, 2017, 10:31:32 PM
Looks good,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2017, 10:32:11 PM
Looks good,,,,,,,,,,,
Long ways to go yet...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Sammconn on September 03, 2017, 10:34:22 PM
That's a good start for sure.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: cruizng on September 03, 2017, 10:55:45 PM
Here is an actual, not staged, shot of her holding things together prior to tacking. Saw this and had a flashback...I thought I was downtown Kandahar looking at a woman or a sack of rice...Appearances are similar.

She fears the sparks!

Well she has had close encounters with carnage like motorcycle wheelies and who know what else most likely developed a healthy dose of self survival when in the Big D operating area. Even with the potential of losing some fashion flair.


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 03, 2017, 11:01:43 PM
Don, I don't care what these guys say, you are a halfway decent fabricator


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 03, 2017, 11:15:35 PM
Don, I don't care what these guys say, you are halfway to being a decent fabricator


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 :tongue:

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 03, 2017, 11:39:27 PM
Don, I don't care what these guys say, you are a halfway decent fabricator


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That may be so, but who did he hire to paint the trailer? It looks really good!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 03, 2017, 11:58:05 PM
Using those 90s was a good idea, I just used a bender. Those connectors will need a cover of some sort or the tarp will wear right through.

The brace is just burned on right? Watch those fumes when welding plated metals, deadly stuff. I need to add those, wish there was a bolt on piece.

Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 04, 2017, 12:29:54 AM
I'd buy that as a kit


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 04, 2017, 04:01:55 AM
Heck, I will do that before winter here. Just a few hours job for so much benefit!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 04, 2017, 08:35:40 AM
Don, I don't care what these guys say, you are a halfway decent fabricator


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I can feel the love!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 04, 2017, 08:36:33 AM
Here is an actual, not staged, shot of her holding things together prior to tacking. Saw this and had a flashback...I thought I was downtown Kandahar looking at a woman or a sack of rice...Appearances are similar.

She fears the sparks!

Well she has had close encounters with carnage like motorcycle wheelies and who know what else most likely developed a healthy dose of self survival when in the Big D operating area. Even with the potential of losing some fashion flair.


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So true
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 04, 2017, 08:37:42 AM
Don, I don't care what these guys say, you are a halfway decent fabricator


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That may be so, but who did he hire to paint the trailer? It looks really good!
Sometimes I get things right by total accident!

This is one of those rare instances...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 04, 2017, 08:38:36 AM
Using those 90s was a good idea, I just used a bender. Those connectors will need a cover of some sort or the tarp will wear right through.

The brace is just burned on right? Watch those fumes when welding plated metals, deadly stuff. I need to add those, wish there was a bolt on piece.


I was thinking of getting some foam pipe insulation and covering those areas

Yes, just heavily tacked at the moment, but burned in is all I'll do.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 04, 2017, 09:53:59 AM
Don, I don't care what these guys say, you are a halfway decent fabricator


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I can feel the love!
Do you guys need a room? Lol


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 04, 2017, 10:58:05 AM
ROFL.....
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 04, 2017, 11:39:36 AM

Do you guys need a room? Lol


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Don just built it,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 04, 2017, 12:25:27 PM
Need to build a upper level and put a bunk bed in there


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 05, 2017, 10:05:15 PM
Need to build a upper level and put a bunk bed in there


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Request again after 48 hours for final disapproval!
Title: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 05, 2017, 10:29:16 PM
Rev:B

How about enough to support a hammock?


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
Rev:B

How about enough to support a hammock?


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See earlier note^^^^^ :wink:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 06, 2017, 01:41:50 PM
Just trying to position myself a place to crash when we all come down there to visit is all


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 06, 2017, 03:26:37 PM
No sleep for you^^^^^

Dave and Nate will be cooking the entire time!!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Atkinsmatt on September 06, 2017, 03:27:19 PM
It already has 3 hammocks.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 06, 2017, 04:15:19 PM
I'll cook what you all bring.  Sure enough


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 06, 2017, 10:54:25 PM
I'll cook what you all bring.  Sure enough


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:32:03 PM
Next up is the battery box. I drilled six 1/4" holes through the box, and into the wheel well.I then installed nutserts in keeping with the way the trailer was constructed
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:33:14 PM
Then, using fender washers and some spacers so the lid could fit, bolted the plastic box into place
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:34:19 PM
That heavy Exide deep cycle battery came next
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:35:38 PM
The power cable for the fuel pump was attached, and the excess cable tied off and stowed. The cable itself is secured to pillow blocks glued into place
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
I tested the circuit, and the pump is motoring like gangbusters.

Then back to bracing the canvas frame.

These small braces will triangulate the sides against longitudinal movement.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:38:51 PM
it is getting pretty rigid at this point
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:40:11 PM
Then either end got some diagonal support
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:41:11 PM
Some more decals showed up for duty
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:42:57 PM
The battery will be topped up every day compliments to the coleman 6 watt trickle charger
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:44:46 PM
I really took my time carefully placing the panel onto the fuel tank

The masking tape should hold it until it migrates onto the roof once the canvas shows up
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Back to the tailgate, I am still forgetting to get that 90 degree fitting
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 07, 2017, 11:46:16 PM
Like! Can't wait to see the cover.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:48:01 PM
I still plan to weld in two more longitudinal stiffeners and fix a sheet of plywood to the roof prior to covering with canvas.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 07, 2017, 11:49:43 PM
Anyway, it is now ready to carry water and fuel, so I have planned a shakedown run tomorrow to transport fuel and water to the farm.

When I bring it back, Sunday, I will add the missing parts and cover with canvas.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 07, 2017, 11:58:08 PM
And maybe a 90* fitting?

How are we to sleep up there with plywood on it,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Wilbur on September 08, 2017, 12:39:04 AM
 :likebutton: that looks great. I was going to ask about running pipes between the "hoops " to add more rigidity. I think I saw that somewhere on military trailers with similar canvas tops. But sounds like you beat me to it! I think this will work great!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 08, 2017, 12:44:31 AM
The new tac topper with built in flame thrower.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 08, 2017, 06:12:21 PM
Wilbur, that's what we were "ribbing" him about back a few posts, about how cheap he was in not wanting to spend 1200 on the mil version. lol
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:07:11 AM
Shake down run was a brilliant success!

Post and pics to come
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 07:57:26 PM
Pictured here is with 325 gal of water and no diesel
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 07:58:34 PM
Topping up the diesel tank.

I actually added 84 gallons of the good stuff before my wallet screamed for me to stop!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
It rode along great! Far better than I would have expected. I maintained normal speed and off road, well that trailer with the big 37" (Actually closer to 35") mil tires handled the rough terrain very well
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 10, 2017, 08:02:17 PM
I used it to top off the fuel tanks of Sarge and Chief, then pumped the balance into the resident fuel tank.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 10, 2017, 10:00:59 PM
Did that only fill it 1/4?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
Did that only fill it 1/4?
Yea, what was left after topping up Sarge and Chief.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 11, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
I thought you put all 85 into her and it was just a 1/4.

What you going to cover it with?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 12, 2017, 01:00:10 AM
Looks like combat max needs a bigger lift so it will match the trailer.  :)

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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 12, 2017, 07:26:36 AM
Ken I was thinking the same thing but wasn't going to say it.  Glad you did.   Perhaps a drop hitch turned upside down to at least make the trailer sit level.

Something like this

https://www.etrailer.com/Pintle-Hitch/Curt/C48341.html?feed=npn&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIsamDxcSf1gIVjB6GCh2h6g-zEAQYAyABEgJKmvD_BwE


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 12, 2017, 08:24:35 AM
Glad I'm not the only one bothered by that truck / trailer setup.....
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 12, 2017, 09:59:34 AM
I thought you put all 85 into her and it was just a 1/4.

What you going to cover it with?
JR,
I want to find one of those oiled canvas tarps. Out on the hunt today actually under this cover of rain!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: wilsonphil on September 12, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
I thought you put all 85 into her and it was just a 1/4.

What you going to cover it with?
JR,
I want to find one of those oiled canvas tarps. Out on the hunt today actually under this cover of rain!

Mcmaster has them!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 12, 2017, 03:05:35 PM
Phil is in the house!

Don, I bought some off amazon. They will shrink, but that's the nature of oiled canvas..this is the largest one I bought (2 years ago and it has shrunk about 10" length wise)
https://www.amazon.com/12-Olive-Drab-Canvas-Tarpaulin/dp/B009ACBHZ6
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:44:18 PM
I finished up the canvas bow structure today along with about everything else except for the canvas cover. But, time to put the trailer into service. I'll top up the fuel and water and transport it farmside, then temporarily cover it all with a tarp. We will revisit the proper canvas top at some point in the future.

I added a hook to stow the rubber garden hose inside the trailer
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:45:37 PM
Then tacked in the rest of the structure. Even just tack welded the thing was pretty strong and rigid
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:48:00 PM
Then I pulled it off being careful to drag it all across every new painted surface within 50 feet, just to give the thing a "beaten" appearance ;-0

I welded the whole thing, then ground the welds and protrusions, then cleaned it with a wire wheel and degreaser
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:49:54 PM
I coated the feet with a rubberized product, and even though it is galvanized, sprayed it with acid etch primer and a good quality gray enamel
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 19, 2017, 08:50:08 PM
Does the tailgate close?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:52:11 PM
Then again being careful to scratch everything I previously missed, I raked the sharp edges all over the fresh green paint to make it look like it just spent the day driving through a B-52 Arch-Light strike...It does!

Oh somewhere during that process, it became remounted amid all the damaged and scratched paint.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:52:24 PM
Does the tailgate close?
Nope
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 19, 2017, 08:53:16 PM
Does the tailgate close?

 :facepalm:

Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:54:09 PM
The a piece of 7/16 OSB found its way onto the top and was secured with a whole buncha' zip ties
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:55:34 PM
I purchased the elbow fitting that is going to buy me another 2" of room, allowing me to nearly (possibly??) close the gate. I'll install that after draining 320 gallons of water!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 19, 2017, 08:56:13 PM
And I threw in the rubber hose.

THis thing is operational!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 20, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
Why is nothing the same color? Why not the mixed military green to match the trailer? Why the truck wheels not military green? 


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 21, 2017, 10:36:37 AM
Why is nothing the same color? Why not the mixed military green to match the trailer? Why the truck wheels not military green? 


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Truck wheels military green

Hmmm...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: longball on September 21, 2017, 01:38:00 PM
Why is nothing the same color? Why not the mixed military green to match the trailer? Why the truck wheels not military green? 


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Brilliant!!! Why hasn't that been suggested before? Sometimes things are so obvious, they go unnoticed by almost everyone.


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: KensAuto on September 21, 2017, 01:45:15 PM
Truck wheels military green

Hmmm...
I dare you!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: longball on September 21, 2017, 01:45:45 PM
Truck wheels military green

Hmmm...
I dare you!
I double dog dare you.


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: EL TATE on September 21, 2017, 01:49:51 PM
Truck wheels military green

Hmmm...
I dare you!
I double dog dare you.


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I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!!! (And then, the coup de grace of all dares, the sinister triple-dog-dare)
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Tommy13 on September 21, 2017, 02:29:07 PM
Truck wheels military green

Hmmm...
I dare you!
I double dog dare you.


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I TRIPLE DOG DARE YOU!!!!! (And then, the coup de grace of all dares, the sinister triple-dog-dare)

We'll all excuse the slight breach of etiquette.  Skipping the "Double Dare" and the "Triple Dare"  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: EL TATE on September 21, 2017, 02:59:08 PM
Had to "go right for the throat!"
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 21, 2017, 03:04:03 PM
I only ever ventured to the double dog dare you level once. Kennedy was president. Seems, if I remember correctly, when I was a youte my friend double dared me to shimmy out on this limb of a sassafras tree overhanging an excavation in the gravel pit. The drop was ah, maybe 25-30 feet.

The branch gave way, as fate would have it, and, branch in hand I cleared most of the embankment only banging off things long enough to break bones.

I walked home carrying my broken arm which was like boken and floppin'

My neighbor, Mrs Greenfield saw me walking down the street and came out running. "Donald, Donald, you're arm is broken" "I know, have to go tell mom, the branch broke that Mark double dared me to climb out on."

So, checked that block, there'll be no more...
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 21, 2017, 03:16:58 PM
I only ever ventured to the double dog dare you level once. Kennedy was president. Seems, if I remember correctly, when I was a youte my friend double dared me to shimmy out on this limb of a sassafras tree overhanging an excavation in the gravel pit. The drop was ah, maybe 25-30 feet.

The branch gave way, as fate would have it, and, branch in hand I cleared most of the embankment only banging off things long enough to break bones.

I walked home carrying my broken arm which was like boken and floppin'

My neighbor, Mrs Greenfield saw me walking down the street and came out running. "Donald, Donald, you're arm is broken" "I know, have to go tell mom, the branch broke that Mark double dared me to climb out on."

So, checked that block, there'll be no more...

Was there a dare involved when you wheelied that motorbike in the yard and banged yourself up or was that just you trying to prove you could still pull a successful wheelie? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 21, 2017, 03:42:14 PM
I only ever ventured to the double dog dare you level once. Kennedy was president. Seems, if I remember correctly, when I was a youte my friend double dared me to shimmy out on this limb of a sassafras tree overhanging an excavation in the gravel pit. The drop was ah, maybe 25-30 feet.

The branch gave way, as fate would have it, and, branch in hand I cleared most of the embankment only banging off things long enough to break bones.

I walked home carrying my broken arm which was like boken and floppin'

My neighbor, Mrs Greenfield saw me walking down the street and came out running. "Donald, Donald, you're arm is broken" "I know, have to go tell mom, the branch broke that Mark double dared me to climb out on."

So, checked that block, there'll be no more...

Was there a dare involved when you wheelied that motorbike in the yard and banged yourself up or was that just you trying to prove you could still pull a successful wheelie? :popcorn:
Neither

Wife was filming

Need I say more?
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Nate on September 21, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
I only ever ventured to the double dog dare you level once. Kennedy was president. Seems, if I remember correctly, when I was a youte my friend double dared me to shimmy out on this limb of a sassafras tree overhanging an excavation in the gravel pit. The drop was ah, maybe 25-30 feet.

The branch gave way, as fate would have it, and, branch in hand I cleared most of the embankment only banging off things long enough to break bones.

I walked home carrying my broken arm which was like boken and floppin'

My neighbor, Mrs Greenfield saw me walking down the street and came out running. "Donald, Donald, you're arm is broken" "I know, have to go tell mom, the branch broke that Mark double dared me to climb out on."

So, checked that block, there'll be no more...

Was there a dare involved when you wheelied that motorbike in the yard and banged yourself up or was that just you trying to prove you could still pull a successful wheelie? :popcorn:
Neither

Wife was filming

Need I say more?

and did she do/say something like "and that's what protects our country" all the while shaking her head and saying to herself "what a klutz....but I still love him regardless"!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: stlaser on September 21, 2017, 04:11:00 PM
It was probably more like darn it another er visit as she ran to the rescue in her high heels..... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 21, 2017, 07:41:46 PM
Post the video. It's been long enough


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Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: JR on September 21, 2017, 11:52:24 PM
Post the video. It's been long enough


Yep, enough teasing. It didn't happen without video!
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Atkinsmatt on September 22, 2017, 07:43:05 AM
Does the tailgate close?
Nope

It has been awhile but I seen to remember hinges for these tailgates that extended due to long loads such as generators or commo rigs.  Maybe you can fab up a couple hinges and top fasteners allowing the same thing.
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Flyin6 on September 22, 2017, 09:09:31 AM
Does the tailgate close?
Nope

It has been awhile but I seen to remember hinges for these tailgates that extended due to long loads such as generators or commo rigs.  Maybe you can fab up a couple hinges and top fasteners allowing the same thing.
Probably won't need to Matt,
I haven't even installed the ninety which will give me a couple inches room, and then if the gate closes most of the way, then why bother fixing something that really doesn't need fixing?
Plan A: install the ninety when the tank is empty (Down to 200 gallons presently) then latch up the day and give it no more thought!

Plan B: Go with Plan A
Title: Re: Army Trailer into a Farm Service Trailer conversion
Post by: Atkinsmatt on September 22, 2017, 11:47:47 AM
Plan A is the route that I would follow more than likely as well.
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