Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 20, 2019, 10:54:27 PM
As a teaser I’ll start this and work on it this weekend
Since I was getting a recipe dialed in last week I wanted to crono the ammo in a full size pistol. I only had my G30 with a 3.78 bbl length. My G21 is in the safe next to the bed in Houston so I had to scrounge through the stash and pull out a NIB Glock 21 genIII for testing. Now that I opened the box it’s only fitting that I keep shooting it and that means I need to do my favorite mods.
First up will be the Ghost Rocket trigger disconnect that reduces the pull to 3.5 lbs and allows precise adjustment of overtravel.
Then an extended mag release and some trijicon night sights and the maritime firing pin spring cups
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 20, 2019, 11:00:29 PM
Oh boy I can’t wait. I need to put these on that Glock I picked up
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Post by: stlaser on August 20, 2019, 11:52:02 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 21, 2019, 06:32:05 AM
https://ghostinc.com/ghost-maritime-spring-cups-for-glocks-gen-1-4/
https://ghostinc.com/ghost-rocket-3-5-for-glocks-gens-1-4/
https://ghostinc.com/vickers-glock-tactical-magazine-catch/
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product2_hdns.php?mid=8
Not that I plan on shooting underwater but the debris cleaning/clearing aspect in a dirty environment is a good thing.
A person can get crazy with mods but these are the ones that I find most valuable for a defense weapon. A glock is supremely reliable in stock form and generally the more you futz with something the less reliable it gets.
You can make and even lighter and faster trigger but at the expense of reliability imho
Tungsten guide rods and other mods are not necessary
I have a G17 that is my training weapon and it has about 19,000 rounds down it. At about 16,000 I replaced all the springs just as a preventive measure after the disconnector spring broke. All stock except the mods I lost here. Mostly run with crappy wolf steel cased ammo and left dirty and treated poorly.
At one time I wanted to see if I could get it to malfunction. Ran nearly 2000 rounds through it and that wolf ammo had it so carboned up I was using a small screwdriver to pick carbon chunks out of the extractor but it never malfunctioned.
As a matter of fact it’s never FTF or FTE in 19000 rounds
Don’t think Ken can say the same about his 100 year old designed 1911
:-)
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Post by: Camaroz2866 on August 21, 2019, 08:30:16 PM
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 22, 2019, 08:27:47 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190821/647b6981b42d0d7f632ebaac4b36ac12.jpg)There is a specific sight tool that I have and will show it when doing mine
Oh boy I can’t wait. I need to put these on that Glock I picked up
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 23, 2019, 11:30:53 PM
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Make sure its unloaded. Really. Make sure its unloaded.
Ghost rocket disconnect and a disassembly tool and short slide cover plate. Don't attempt this without the short slide cover plate or you wont be able to dryfire and disassemble later.
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Pins get pushed out from right to left. Except the trigger pin which I remove left to right because the slide release spring will only catch once. Push the slide release lever towards the front of the weapon to help the step on the pin clear the wire spring on the slide release lever.
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Once the pins are out pry up on the locking block to remove. Then the trigger group can come out
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 23, 2019, 11:48:46 PM
and it lifts out like such
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and there is the empty lower
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Pry up on the trigger disconnect to create some room to pull the trigger bar from the slot and rotate out of the way.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 23, 2019, 11:58:20 PM
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The factory 5 pound trigger disconnect and the ghost rocket. Note the extra tab which is what creates a over travel limit. The angle of the flat surface at the rear. The lower the angle the easier to disconnect the trigger (fire the weapon)
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To remove the slide cover use a small screwdriver to pry down on the cover. BUT PAY ATTENTION HERE. The firing pin and extractor pin are under pressure. The extractor pin will fly across the room if you dont hold your thumb over the end while sliding the cover off.
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Here you can see the short slide cover installed. Press down on the firing pin when sliding the cover back in and then press down on the extractor spring to get it to slide the rest of the way
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 24, 2019, 12:12:59 AM
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Here is the unmodified ghost rocket disconnect
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Here it is after taking a little off the tab with a dremel. go slow and only take off a bit at a time.
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reinstall all the parts and try to fire it. At first it won't fire so you have to reach in through the short slide cover and push down on the release to get the pin to fire. Keep disassembling and filing a small amount until the wepon just barely will fire. Then just a hair more and your done. Note how there is no overtravel and a very short reset.
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Post by: KensAuto on August 24, 2019, 11:50:19 AM
Post by: Camaroz2866 on August 24, 2019, 12:15:24 PM
Post by: JR on August 24, 2019, 12:52:34 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 24, 2019, 06:31:35 PM
When you have the slide end plate off, simply slide the firing pin out
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Here are the maritime cups. Note they are not solid all the way around. They ride on the small ridges which allow water and debris through without jamming the pin up
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Set it on its end and compress the spring with your fingers by pulling down on it. Then use the other hand to remove the factory cups by using a thumbnail to lift up on each half. Simply insert the new ones as the reverse of removal and you are good to go.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 25, 2019, 12:56:22 AM
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 25, 2019, 06:38:11 AM
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Post by: JR on August 25, 2019, 01:48:57 PM
Video will be required.....as long as you’re wearing trunks.
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Yep, or it didn't happen
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2019, 09:30:38 PM
Darned gun won't blow up??
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 25, 2019, 09:37:57 PM
She’d freak, especially if she thought it would damage the plaster on the pool
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Post by: JR on August 25, 2019, 10:48:23 PM
Please, no manly :rolleyes: shots of you,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: dave945 on August 26, 2019, 03:46:52 AM
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Post by: JR on August 26, 2019, 10:45:16 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2019, 06:43:06 PM
Like the Apache pilot said when he was about to fly between two trees, "Watch this!"
I dun wanna see ma texan hard-headed friend lose any dexterous part of his anatomy.
Post by: BobbyB on August 28, 2019, 09:20:53 PM
That just sounds unsafe
Darned gun won't blow up??
There are videos of people firing Glocks and etc underwater. I don't recommend people doing it,and I'm pretty adamant that they don't perform unsafe acts, however that's my personal opinion and people will do what they please.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 28, 2019, 10:32:48 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 01, 2019, 10:27:24 PM
Trijicon tritium sights
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This is the glock sight tool They make one for straight sided sights and beveled. This is the straight sided one but as you will see it works just fine on the beveled.
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you can see that it has a rail that the slide rails slide on to and then the wheel tightens it up to hold the slide tight
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Then by turning the side handle it shoves the sight laterally out of the groove. Installation is the reverse
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Front factory sight is plastic and it has an expanding pin in the underside that holds it in place. Punch it out from the bottom
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Post by: stlaser on September 01, 2019, 10:28:31 PM
I was extremely disappointed....
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 01, 2019, 10:31:11 PM
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It requires a special socket , very thin wall. I have the correct one now. In the past I used a standard socket that I ground down to make it thin wall
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Use lock tite
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Finished. will check windage at the range tomorrow
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And in the dark
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 01, 2019, 10:39:54 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 20, 2019, 09:30:00 AM
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Post by: stlaser on November 20, 2019, 06:48:57 PM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on November 20, 2019, 06:50:47 PM
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Post by: stlaser on November 20, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
Been in the case under the back seat of the truck since I got it. Gonna maybe out shiny things on it and up sell it for $$ than I paid
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Bedazzling is so 2010...... :popcorn:
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 04, 2021, 10:26:21 PM
This time in addition to the maritime cups I also went with a totally new spring package including a lower power spring for the safety plunger, lower power (4lb) firing pin spring, and a 6 lb trigger spring (higher spring pressure on the trigger makes the pull lighter). The 4 lb firing pin spring is not recommended for self defense due to possible light primer strikes.
Installed and adjusted the trigger control tab to get near zero overtravel and short reset and polished all the mating surfaces and it it the lightest trigger pull Ive ever had on a glock. Not sure I would recommend it or allow anyone to shoot it that I didnt know for sure had solid safety and trigger control.
It’s smooth and no stacking or creep but scary soft pull. I may go back to the higher power firing pin spring but I’ll run some rounds through tomorrow to function check.
AAR tomorrow.
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Post by: JR on July 04, 2021, 10:39:05 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 04, 2021, 10:45:26 PM
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Post by: JR on July 04, 2021, 11:00:51 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 05, 2021, 11:30:05 AM
A little El Presidente and some basic draw from concealment and moving and shooting.
First up I always like to confirm if what I’m carrying will actually fire the first time when needed. First mag was Winchester 147gn hollow point.
Then I ran training ammo, wolf steel case.
No FTF, no misfires. Just shoots like all glocks.
It’s a very smooth light pull and definitely makes you mindful of safety discipline.
My only complaint is that on some double taps that the follow up is actually a bit too fast and I wasn’t back on target before it fired the second time. Minor complaint and it will just take a little getting used to but at close range it won’t matter like shooting. 5.5x7.5 ipsc at 10 yards.
So out of curiousity I compared primer strikes from this glock to my standard glock 17 with standard springs.
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Standard on top , light spring on the bottom. If there is a difference it’s really hard to tell.
Overall very pleased but I may swap the firing spring if I decide to EDC it.
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Post by: JR on July 05, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
Post by: KensAuto on July 05, 2021, 05:38:56 PM
Mine are off center.Is that what happens when you leave a plastic gun in a hot vehicle?
Post by: JR on July 05, 2021, 08:18:18 PM
Mine are off center.Is that what happens when you leave a plastic gun in a hot vehicle?
Is that what H told you???
Post by: stlaser on July 05, 2021, 08:24:02 PM
Mine are off center.Is that what happens when you leave a plastic gun in a hot vehicle?
Is that what H told you???
What happens when H sits on things, must be why Ken prefers hammers
Post by: JR on July 05, 2021, 08:26:39 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 13, 2021, 07:00:38 PM
Modded another glock, a 23 this time with just the maritime cups and the Ghost Rocket fitted trigger disconnect at 3.5lb and the Ameriglo tritium night sights. Another fine shooting Glock it is.
Picking up another 27 tomorrow and will work on it in the coming weeks and then determine if I keep EDC the 23 or go to the 27. Likely will keep the 23 as primary and put the 27 in a new ankle holster I got recently.
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Post by: Atkinsmatt on July 13, 2021, 08:04:02 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 13, 2021, 08:43:26 PM
More of a universal holster. The band above the calf seems to make the holster much more stable
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Post by: JR on July 13, 2021, 11:34:30 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 14, 2021, 05:56:11 PM
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About to see if it fits in the ankle holster.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 14, 2021, 06:02:56 PM
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 14, 2021, 06:18:34 PM
Post by: JR on July 14, 2021, 06:19:20 PM
Post by: EL TATE on July 14, 2021, 06:19:45 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 14, 2021, 06:43:38 PM
Tate, I knew that would bring a comment. The young guys at the office have me wearing all the goofy socks now.
Holster seems to hold up the weapon from riding down and moving about. I’ll report back after some more long term wear.
Now on to night sights, maritime cups and 3.5lb trigger fitting.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 25, 2021, 02:10:16 PM
Went to a new site called The Glock Store www.glockstore.com and bought some of these gizmos that fill the gap when using the longer higher capacity mags in a small frame weapon
Here is the one for the G22 mags when used in a G23(works for 17 in a 19 too). I also got the one for the 23 mag to be used in the 27
Factory mag in 23
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X Grip next to the 22 mag
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X Grip installed on 22 mag
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X Grip and mag installed in 23
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Post by: JR on July 25, 2021, 02:23:38 PM
Have you seen the new one with green laser going on sale for $90?