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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #650 on: January 29, 2020, 01:46:00 PM »
I got my last 40gal tank for around $200 on amazon. Was a nice tank to for the 91 sub. Plus it is setup for FI pump.

You will need to fab upper mounts since it is a wrap around cradle with straps. Not hard though.
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #651 on: January 29, 2020, 09:52:10 PM »
I got my last 40gal tank for around $200 on amazon. Was a nice tank to for the 91 sub. Plus it is setup for FI pump.

You will need to fab upper mounts since it is a wrap around cradle with straps. Not hard though.
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #652 on: January 29, 2020, 10:22:48 PM »
Wish I still had all the pics, long gone. Just used a couple 1/8 straps over the top of the tank to conform. Yours will be harder, my bed was off when I did mine. I ran the fill straight up through the bed. Run yours to the wheel well.

Just be sure to get a FI tank when ordering. Replace the cheapo TPI 14psi pump with a hp FI pump (same size) and you still have all the right lines on it.

You can see the tank and straps in this pic.

Here is a teaser of the inside
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #653 on: January 30, 2020, 09:46:56 AM »
JR, I think mine would be dirt simple.

Just run the same fill line that is already there, and drop the fuel transfer pump from the burb stock aux tank into the new tank. Hang it and motor on

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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #654 on: January 30, 2020, 10:52:16 AM »
King of DOTs ^^^
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« Reply #655 on: January 30, 2020, 11:27:19 AM »
King of DOTs ^^^

Yep, maybe we should be in the Suburban thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,me bad
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« Reply #656 on: January 31, 2020, 11:45:12 AM »
Sorry!
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« Reply #658 on: February 02, 2020, 03:40:18 PM »
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so far.. no broken bolts, curse words, lost (thrown) wrenches or more dents than we started with.. :beercheers:

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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #659 on: February 02, 2020, 05:32:40 PM »
Time for a swap! (and paint)
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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #660 on: February 02, 2020, 07:43:48 PM »
Is it finished yet?  :tongue:
Living in the remote north hoping Ken doesn’t bring H up here any time soon…..

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« Reply #661 on: February 03, 2020, 08:23:54 AM »
Is it finished yet?  :tongue:
Time for a swap! (and paint)

believe me.. it feels like it already. been sitting for at least a year untouched. and to have moved shops, pulled it inside and starting to disassemble all in a week feels amazing

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« Reply #662 on: February 04, 2020, 09:38:57 PM »
Is it finished yet?  :tongue:
Time for a swap! (and paint)

believe me.. it feels like it already. been sitting for at least a year untouched. and to have moved shops, pulled it inside and starting to disassemble all in a week feels amazing

I have so many things going I get overwhelmed sometimes.
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« Reply #664 on: February 07, 2020, 08:39:24 AM »
Worried about losing your chains?

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« Reply #665 on: February 07, 2020, 09:25:33 AM »
Worried about losing your chains?

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hahah. it’s a friend of mines setup. he actually pulled for motor without me. i’m on a trip to VA in the pete at the moment.

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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #666 on: February 07, 2020, 02:18:48 PM »
I like the single headlight fronts better. What I have on the 91 gasser. Way more room for cooler and lights.
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« Reply #667 on: February 09, 2020, 06:42:30 PM »
pretty clean frame



no tanks, brake lines, fuel lines or wiring


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« Reply #668 on: February 09, 2020, 06:50:48 PM »
Sure wish I had the 1/4 frame like yours. 2500 subs are .180.
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« Reply #669 on: February 09, 2020, 06:57:00 PM »
not sure exactly how thick it is. but i want to say it’s shy of 1/4”. but def not .180

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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #670 on: February 09, 2020, 07:03:24 PM »
You're sure the longer tanks won't fit?
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« Reply #671 on: February 09, 2020, 07:10:36 PM »
You're sure the longer tanks won't fit?

yessir. 14” coming out of the frame. and there’s a cab mount right in front of where the long bed tanks currently sit. and a channel in the middle of the tank that goes under a cross member on the body if i’m not mistaken.

biggest thing is the cab mount 1” in front of the front the tank.

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« Reply #672 on: February 09, 2020, 07:12:00 PM »
Makes sense
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« Reply #673 on: February 09, 2020, 07:30:28 PM »
Cool, factory is always better for fuel tanks.

Found this for 40 gallon tank, had mine all the way back.

https://youtu.be/lppl_ONgzLA
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« Reply #674 on: February 09, 2020, 07:32:07 PM »
This is better, more like I did.

https://youtu.be/z7u6dKOg2mk
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« Reply #675 on: February 09, 2020, 07:42:54 PM »
Cool, factory is always better for fuel tanks.

Found this for 40 gallon tank, had mine all the way back.

https://youtu.be/lppl_ONgzLA

going to explore this for sure. can’t wait to get to that point.

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« Reply #676 on: February 09, 2020, 08:31:01 PM »
Recall it was pretty easy and I had the bed off too. Same time I added a crossover for filling.
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« Reply #677 on: February 09, 2020, 08:55:38 PM »






tentative cut marks for the short bed swap


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« Reply #678 on: February 09, 2020, 09:05:18 PM »
Think you need all the room in the rear. Can't you just cut the center?
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« Reply #679 on: February 09, 2020, 09:18:50 PM »
Think you need all the room in the rear. Can't you just cut the center?

no sir. gotta cut the back too. short bed is 6’6” long. long bed is 8’. 14” from center leaves around 4” that has to be had from somewhere. from what i can tell, different year model long beds require different lengths to be removed from the back. some are ~2”. some as much as ~5” if i’m not mistaken.

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« Reply #680 on: February 12, 2020, 05:50:20 AM »
got alittle done last night. just temporary fitting to make sure we did it right. hahah









had to set the turnover ball plate on to see what it looked like



just have to clean up the welds some more and get alittle bit of reinforcement done on the inside.

thinking of through bolting some 5” x 1/4” plate on either side with graded hardware. thoughts??

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« Reply #681 on: February 12, 2020, 09:34:40 AM »
Looks good. I’d just weld a box section in that spans 12 inches each side of the cut.


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« Reply #682 on: February 12, 2020, 10:49:04 AM »
Box section or plate it at least.

Wish they had really made that.
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« Reply #683 on: February 12, 2020, 11:16:45 AM »
thanks everyone.

and yes, would have been awesome. this is going to be a crew cab short bed 4wd 1 ton running gear ‘89 3+3. took just 9 calendar days from pulling it in the shop to having it ‘roughly’ done. hah

still needs considerable clean up and reinforcement. but should be good to get 4wd swap stuff on there next week (scheduled delivery is monday..)

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« Reply #684 on: February 16, 2020, 07:49:29 AM »
rolled her outside for the first time.



then started pulling stuff off. doors and glass are completely removed.



if you look at the side shot, it looks like the bed is alittle downhill. but i think what’s going on is the cab body mounts are deteriorated some up front and causing it to look like it’s ‘bent’ some.

we measured the frame after chopping it down and the section under the cab is parallel to the very rear section of frame behind where the spring hangers mount. and it’s < 1/16” cross taping from front bed bolt hole to rear bed bolt hole.

could anyone else with a c/k series truck confirm the parallel frame sections for me? (bottom of main section under cab, top of frame over the axle, and bottom of rear section of frame behind spring hanger. all of mine are parallel)

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« Reply #685 on: February 16, 2020, 08:58:20 AM »
and of course this just popped up close by me.

im really tempted to figure out how to pick this up..




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« Reply #686 on: February 16, 2020, 09:40:05 AM »
I like. What are they asking?


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« Reply #687 on: February 16, 2020, 10:10:42 AM »
I like. What are they asking?


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way high. thanks to mecum and barrett jackson. lol. but it is a really cool and rare truck.

that being said. 6800 for basically the shell and frame. would obviously need 8 lug conversion and engine/trans. new rear axle. but all i see when i look at it is COOL!

also, i ive hit a snag on the rear tank swap. i believe the 10 series and blazer/burb trucks all had shocks outboard of the frame. mine are inboard. does anyone see an issue with moving the shocks outboard? between frame and leaf springs. i think i can source the mounting tab from either my dads old junk K5 or scrap yard. and then just get some nice clean weld on tabs for the axle. can anyone with a burb get some measurements of the tank itself and where exactly it sits?


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Re: 3+3 2500
« Reply #688 on: February 16, 2020, 12:37:09 PM »
It's welded? Might have to start shimming.
I remember having a similar issue when I body swapped my 73. I think I had to shim the core support but honestly don't remember the details.

Still need measurements? Anything I can get with the bodys still in place?
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« Reply #689 on: February 16, 2020, 01:11:18 PM »
It's welded? Might have to start shimming.
I remember having a similar issue when I body swapped my 73. I think I had to shim the core support but honestly don't remember the details.

Still need measurements? Anything I can get with the bodys still in place?

just angles of the main section under to cab and the tail end of the frame just before the bumper. doesn’t need to be level.. just need to know if they’re in the same plane (if that makes sense..)

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« Reply #690 on: February 16, 2020, 01:23:53 PM »
Looks good, looks like you have the full tach dash to. Getting hard to find.
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« Reply #691 on: February 16, 2020, 01:31:01 PM »
Looks good, looks like you have the full tach dash to. Getting hard to find.

yessir. that’ll go away with the dakota digital dash that’s going in with the LBZ

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« Reply #692 on: February 16, 2020, 01:43:31 PM »
If you go with the Dakota, that stock dash will fetch a nice penny.

Still have one for my Sub, but need to figure the tach drive out.
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« Reply #693 on: February 16, 2020, 02:48:36 PM »
If you go with the Dakota, that stock dash will fetch a nice penny.

Still have one for my Sub, but need to figure the tach drive out.

what’s a reasonable price for it?

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« Reply #694 on: February 16, 2020, 03:31:04 PM »
When I last looked, they were going for in the $250 area for the tach option setup. Got mine for $100 way back.
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« Reply #695 on: February 16, 2020, 03:45:04 PM »
When I last looked, they were going for in the $250 area for the tach option setup. Got mine for $100 way back.

ohh man. that would be great. just about cover the engine mounts or trans mount for the LBZ/allison


i’ve heard back from another friend of mine who has a crew and all the ‘flat’ spots on the frame are all within .5° of each other. so i’m good to go from here on i think.

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« Reply #696 on: February 16, 2020, 08:57:28 PM »
When I last looked, they were going for in the $250 area for the tach option setup. Got mine for $100 way back.
I converted mine into a tach. Iirc, it was from an 80s Camaro. Not going to work now.
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« Reply #697 on: February 16, 2020, 09:00:09 PM »
When I last looked, they were going for in the $250 area for the tach option setup. Got mine for $100 way back.
I converted mine into a tach. Iirc, it was from an 80s Camaro. Not going to work now.

what’s not going to work..?

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« Reply #698 on: February 16, 2020, 10:23:42 PM »
The conventional tach we talked about.
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« Reply #699 on: February 17, 2020, 02:40:02 PM »
ahh. i gotcha. well.. i’m sure it can be sorted out

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not my work.. but look at that tig skill. amazing.

i can’t wait to get it coated and bolted in to place.

 

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