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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #550 on: February 28, 2019, 09:45:13 PM »
Looks like it is on backwards, wrong side.
You think?
It aligns with the factory LCA in this manner. A raised boss on the control arm aligns with the shorter shoulder, so I was thinking this was the right way. Anyway, I pulled it off, and switched it around and it still was not allowing the LCA to rise without pushing this thing outward. Something is not right with it...
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #551 on: February 28, 2019, 09:46:52 PM »
Next up I built up the Cognito UCA.s I had an option to place the ball joint on either side of the arm. I chose the top side for slightly less lift than if it were on the bottom
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #552 on: February 28, 2019, 09:48:50 PM »
This time around, I have been using a lot of red grease to ease installation, and I have to say, it is making things much easier

I procured new AC Delco cam adjuster hardware, then greased the surface beneath the cams and the pockets where the UCA bushings reside.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #553 on: February 28, 2019, 09:49:34 PM »
I also replaced the defective tabs that the cams ride against with new parts
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #554 on: February 28, 2019, 09:51:07 PM »
I screwed the two halves of the baseball bat lookin' tie rods together to approximate the length of the old tie rod, and screwed them into the steering cross shaft
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #555 on: February 28, 2019, 09:51:49 PM »
Looks like it is on backwards, wrong side.
You think?
It aligns with the factory LCA in this manner. A raised boss on the control arm aligns with the shorter shoulder, so I was thinking this was the right way. Anyway, I pulled it off, and switched it around and it still was not allowing the LCA to rise without pushing this thing outward. Something is not right with it...

If I remember don't these come off and replaced by smaller ones for more travel?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #556 on: February 28, 2019, 09:53:03 PM »
And that made it time to bolt up the steering knuckle
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #557 on: February 28, 2019, 09:54:23 PM »
Looks like it is on backwards, wrong side.
You think?
It aligns with the factory LCA in this manner. A raised boss on the control arm aligns with the shorter shoulder, so I was thinking this was the right way. Anyway, I pulled it off, and switched it around and it still was not allowing the LCA to rise without pushing this thing outward. Something is not right with it...

If I remember don't these come off and replaced by smaller ones for more travel?
No...The BDS instructions said to install the factory bumpstops to the extension brackets

But to get them to fit, I am going to have to cut some of the Bump stop off
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #558 on: February 28, 2019, 09:55:37 PM »
The sway bar got permanized with the addition of the end links. They, too, were treated with the gooey stuff and slipped in place very easily
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #559 on: February 28, 2019, 09:58:09 PM »
Check your clearance on the tie rod boot. Mine rubbed when turned tearing the boots.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #560 on: February 28, 2019, 09:58:28 PM »
So, I do not have the hubs at this point or I could have proceeded with those and the driveshafts. What I did do was to prep those parts with their paint coatings, this time going much more natural using only clear

The shocks got a second coat and are now ready to install. I want to wait so I have more room to wiggle that axle shaft into place before cluttering the space with these larger diameter Fox Shocks
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #561 on: February 28, 2019, 09:59:10 PM »
Check your clearance on the tie rod boot. Mine rubbed when turned tearing the boots.
OK, wilco. SHould have those bolted up tomorrow sometime, I hope
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #562 on: February 28, 2019, 10:00:47 PM »
Check your clearance on the tie rod boot. Mine rubbed when turned tearing the boots.
OK, wilco. SHould have those bolted up tomorrow sometime, I hope

Yours look better. Simple fix was a few washers.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #563 on: February 28, 2019, 10:43:29 PM »
Started on the bumpers tonight.  The rear bumper usually goes together real quick compared to the front, ( just a lot less pieces) so I started there.  Got it all tacked up.  Plan to weld it solid tomorrow night.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #564 on: February 28, 2019, 11:35:33 PM »
Even igloo coolers have rotomolded coolers now


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #565 on: February 28, 2019, 11:41:05 PM »
DOT response, I like the rope vs the solid handles.

Oh, the bumper looks good too,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #566 on: February 28, 2019, 11:44:36 PM »
Ropes hurt my delicate hands.
I came here to see Bear's bumper but phone won't download pic... sucky internet... can't even watch Don put his parts on upside down.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #567 on: March 01, 2019, 04:07:05 AM »
Don where did you come across the torsion bar raising brackets? Never seen anything like that and really like the idea.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #568 on: March 01, 2019, 07:37:47 AM »
That bumper is looking great.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #569 on: March 01, 2019, 08:51:42 AM »
Don where did you come across the torsion bar raising brackets? Never seen anything like that and really like the idea.


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BDS, Fabtech, and I think one other were the only manufacturers who offer the correctly (IMO), designed kits
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #570 on: March 01, 2019, 08:53:48 AM »
Started on the bumpers tonight.  The rear bumper usually goes together real quick compared to the front, ( just a lot less pieces) so I started there.  Got it all tacked up.  Plan to weld it solid tomorrow night.


Brian,

That looks really great. Be fun to watch these go together, then arrive here, get painted, then finally find their new home on Ravin'8
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #571 on: March 01, 2019, 09:25:56 AM »
I should give a brief explanation for the name I have given to this Suburban.

So we know that it is going to be something related to the military, foregone conclusion...

So when I first became an Army pilot back in 1980, my first assignment was as an Aeroscout Pilot in the 3rd Infantry Division stationed in Germany. I was in the "Scout" Platoon of "A" Company 3rd ABC. ABC stands for "Aviation Battalion, Combat."

Alpha company was known as "The Ravens"

Each pilot had a call sign, mine was "Raven 8."

So anytime we went flying, we filed the flight plan with our call sign as the flight's call sign, so wherever I talked to ATC or anyone else, I used that call sign.

Well, in that company, I had a bit of a reputation. That very reputation was what later drew the attention of a then top secret organization that was recruiting pilots to fly our then named "Delta-Force."

I was pretty aggressive in those days. I flew like a wild man and I trained all the time. I was actually attached to a German Army aviation company in the summers to fly night missions with them in my Jet Ranger and in their Alouettes. I was one of the five or six pilots authorized to fly on the East/West German borders and over the years, I got to see and do some interesting things. I was issued a .38 smith by the Army, but I always carried my stainless .44 magnum. That fostered my reputation. When I flew the commanding general, he would often ask me, "Chief, hand me that "hogs head" I want to show the boys what my pilots carry.

I participated in and won second place in the European "Heli-cup" an Olympics like event held for NATO pilots/crews, and on that year was nominated as "Army Aviator of the Year." I didn't win that lofty position, but it led to the name I am giving to my Suburban.

A Sergeant, a dammed good one who ran operations made up a board of poker chips. Each one had a name on it...Raven 01, Raven 02, Raven 66, Raven 80 and so forth. But for some reason, mine was purposely misspelled and lumped together. It was changed to "Ravin8"

I later found out the pilots had taken a secret poll once amongst the lift, Huey, guys. The voted on who they thought would be the very first pilot in the unit to be killed when we initially engaged the Russians and East Germans. Apparently 100% of them voted my name. But a very good friend of mine said, yea, they're gonna kill Don, but as that flaming helicopter comes screaming down, he will crash it into the nearest Russian tank he can find.

The sergeant was smitten by that comment and came away thinking I was a Raving lunatic, and thus, I became not Raven-zero-eight, but simply the misspelled, "Ravin8"

This Burb will be off the hook. It has 8 cylinders which are gonna have to work hard to push its massive hulk. It is owned by a guy who once proudly used that unit given call sign. So, "Ravin8" it becomes!
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #572 on: March 01, 2019, 11:56:35 AM »
It also seats 8 (before removing the back seat).


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #573 on: March 01, 2019, 02:06:46 PM »
It also seats 8 (before removing the back seat).


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« Reply #574 on: March 01, 2019, 02:36:50 PM »
good name I like it......I need a name for this truck we are building......I have nothing at the moment

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #575 on: March 01, 2019, 02:43:40 PM »
That’s a much better name than “Back Scratcher”!!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #576 on: March 01, 2019, 03:20:19 PM »
good name I like it......I need a name for this truck we are building......I have nothing at the moment

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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #577 on: March 01, 2019, 09:23:32 PM »
good name I like it......I need a name for this truck we are building......I have nothing at the moment
Koo-T would work!
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« Reply #578 on: March 01, 2019, 09:24:15 PM »
That’s a much better name than “Back Scratcher”!!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #579 on: March 01, 2019, 10:23:20 PM »
I like it, diff and a history of the owner.

The other NTBD lift is Cognito, the lift I had. Their knuckles are also formed and welded with just a 1/2 inch spacer.

Were Fox shocks part of the package?
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #580 on: March 01, 2019, 10:52:39 PM »
I like it, diff and a history of the owner.

The other NTBD lift is Cognito, the lift I had. Their knuckles are also formed and welded with just a 1/2 inch spacer.

Were Fox shocks part of the package?
They were an option. BDS gas shocks were standard
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« Reply #581 on: March 02, 2019, 05:50:08 PM »
Don,  you have lived quite the life. Good name!


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« Reply #582 on: March 02, 2019, 05:52:50 PM »
Don,  you have lived quite the life. Good name!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #583 on: March 02, 2019, 08:24:47 PM »
Still cleaning and painting some things. I had that Chevy orange left over, so, what the hay, the keys needed some paint...They got some

I am liking that Chassis black paint from HF. Inexpensive as it is, the stuff goes on well. one to two coats gives complete coverage and the flatness is about right. Price is way good too!

THe bars are stamped right and left with arrows to show intended rotation, but I taped over the tags to preserve the factory label
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« Reply #584 on: March 02, 2019, 08:26:06 PM »
And these nice Timken parts came in and in a quick jiffy were installed and painted
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« Reply #585 on: March 02, 2019, 08:27:15 PM »
The axle shafts went in without a fuss coupled to their plastic spacers and socket head fasteners
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« Reply #586 on: March 02, 2019, 08:28:54 PM »
The Fox 2.0 aluminum body shocks were next in line. Bushings/bolts/washers and mounts all got a good coating of synthetic grease
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #587 on: March 02, 2019, 08:30:43 PM »
That's like a way low, lotza lift for a simple 1.5" leveling kit!  :wink:

I gave the rotors a coating of clear, but they are heavily nickle plated and well machined
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« Reply #588 on: March 02, 2019, 08:33:11 PM »
Yes, they are installed in the correct sides for the grooves and rotation.

Tex is gonna like the calipers. Basically just stockers with a good rebuild and red powder coat finish

But Don forgot to purchase the bolts to attach them, so I was at a work stoppage point. I'll have them tomorrow. Dorman replacements are like $6 for one caliper.
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« Reply #589 on: March 02, 2019, 08:34:25 PM »
They came with ceramic, low dust pads. Good enough, I would have used the factory material. I actually didn't check if that is semi-metallic or ceramic...?
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« Reply #590 on: March 02, 2019, 08:37:23 PM »
You can see I was exercising the BRI (Box reduction Initiative) which cleared up a lot of shelf and floor space.

I feed everything to my boiler, so this would be trash is actually producing BTU's to warm up the garage where these schneghanians are taking place!

Its getting there. Could be resting on the suspension tomorrow if I had the tires mounted (Not)
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #591 on: March 02, 2019, 08:47:47 PM »
That’s one fine looking lift kit.   New inner fender wells?


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« Reply #592 on: March 02, 2019, 09:58:58 PM »
That does look good and lots of new parts!
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« Reply #593 on: March 02, 2019, 10:05:48 PM »
That’s one fine looking lift kit.   New inner fender wells?


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Reason, is after all the washing I have done, there is still sand like silt running out of the bottom. My concern is that they may store up mud in the void which could cause rust. I think I'd rather avoid the collection of debris and just lose them now
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #594 on: March 02, 2019, 10:11:01 PM »
Truck is looking great, can’t wait to see it in person in Dacono Colorado!  :beercheers:
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« Reply #595 on: March 02, 2019, 10:20:38 PM »
I think the factory flares look good on that body style. My truck lived in Missouri salt country for 7 years before I moved to Alabama. I kept it for another 4 years after moving and never had any rust issues around the fender flares. Never removed them to clean behind there either. Either way, Ravin8 is looking really good Chief.


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #596 on: March 02, 2019, 10:29:10 PM »
I would keep them too unless you want monster flares to cover the rub lines.

By the way, I dropped the SAS on my Dmax. Going with a standard lift again.
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #597 on: March 02, 2019, 10:39:13 PM »
Looks great. I'd leave the flares.

I bet a roof pod would sure come in handy for the trip now that you have less room in the back. A nice color matched pod :wink
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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #598 on: March 02, 2019, 11:18:26 PM »
I have pulled mine twice now in six years of owning it.   There is no rust.  I live in an area where the other trucks rust out freely.   I think pull em new double sided tape and reinstall.  They look so much better with the factory flares.  Painted to match.  Clean and simple Don

Jr. You just sold all the lift kit stuff!!


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Re: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 2
« Reply #599 on: March 02, 2019, 11:20:53 PM »
I would keep them too unless you want monster flares to cover the rub lines.

By the way, I dropped the SAS on my Dmax. Going with a standard lift again.

You bought a kingpin axle for it though?!!
Living in the remote north hoping Ken doesn’t bring H up here any time soon…..

 

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