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Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 28, 2020, 01:51:19 PM
So as I have mentioned in the WDYDT thread I pulled the trigger on a parts/core donor.

Donor truck
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Mine
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I’m now in the information gathering stage for WDINTB. What do I need to buy?
Both trucks are at 300k miles, donor has never seen a tune.

Any insight will be appreciated.
I’m going to gather intel and DOT’s here and do the build in another thread hopefully less junked up.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 28, 2020, 02:08:11 PM
what do you want it to do? start there and pull out your checkbook  :cool:
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 28, 2020, 02:42:24 PM
No more than it does now.

The answers I seek are do I need to look a at bearings, crank grind etc.
Just gonna be another dd for me nothing special.

Need to seal up oil leaks refresh what “actually should be” and not a lot more.

My problem is I’m frugal (aka cheap), don’t trust anyone to work on my stuff, and live 700 odd miles from parts.

Oh, once this dem-panic is over and I can go south again I think I’ll stroke the check to Mike L.
I don’t think I want to do the trans, but I may be swayed still too.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 28, 2020, 03:41:19 PM
I support the MikeL trans but mine has been acting funny as of late,   Flare shifts is how I view it,   Rpm increase then a shove into gear.  It didn’t do that new.   Another problem for another thread


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 28, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
are you pulling the motor out and going through it or are these things going to be done in the truck.

if you pull it. i would do head gaskets and a head/valve job. at 300k with no tune or EGR delete i can just about guarantee the intake runners and y bride are going to look like the inside of an 18 century chimney.

LB7 pass side up pipe.
egr delete.
driver side LML manifold.
PCV reroute.

just a few things here and there.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 28, 2020, 04:54:03 PM
There is the whole other idea of a plan like Dons,    Are you planing on a tune?

Tune provides good benefits like MpG, increase HP is not just a ego thing vs ability to pull easier at a higher rate of speed

The turbos you can drop in provide lots of better long term benefits also, keeping the motor temps down and reliability and so forth

The rest I think I would leave stock

A 500hp motor will run a lifetime with basic parts


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 28, 2020, 08:21:13 PM
Everything coming out of the donor for rebuilds.
I’m running as big a tune as a stock trans can hold. I may have limped it last week in the heat.

Heads getting done.
Turbo rebuilt.
Gasket set.
Water pump.
Starter and ring gear?
Staying stock everything.

No “oil changes” on my watch.

Just looking for anything I may not be thinking of
Will be headstuds because but otherwise I think all stock parts.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 28, 2020, 10:10:40 PM
Keep track of costs.  Interested to see where you land


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: longball on July 29, 2020, 09:20:33 PM
Aftermarket down pipe while you’ve got the motor out would help it breath a little better. I may have missed it but what’s the reason for the swap? Something wrong with your truck?


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 29, 2020, 11:09:21 PM
My truck is all good. Just old. I can’t be without it is the reason for the swap.
I’m at the end of 200 miles of gravel.
Parents aren’t getting any younger etc.

Short story is I’m going to do a rebuild/reseal whatever it ends up being then do the weekend swap.
I’m too far from everything to trust things will go well.

So when I got the opportunity for a completed set of spare parts I went for it.

Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 30, 2020, 07:11:25 AM
If it’s out and your tearing it down That far and it were me I would mic the journals and bearings and check the cylinders. Then you can decide on just running it as is or perhaps changing the bearings or something more if there’s a problem. . But at least you’ll know if there is a major issue. Most everything else can be solved from the top of there’s in issue later.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: KensAuto on July 30, 2020, 08:58:14 AM
Ring gear is either good or isn't, but at 300k it would be crazy not to look at the bearings, especially if you're resealing the pan.
Obvious things like accessory pulleys, glow plugs, oil pressure switch..
Can't think of anything else as far as the actual engine goes unless you wanna look at the cam.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 30, 2020, 10:55:25 AM
I have a ‘spot’ or maybe it’s my starter... every once in a blue moon.

So here’s what I was thinking:
Complete tear down, now Ken has me thinking cam should be ok.
Want to measure everything.
Head job, as I don’t think the donor has egr blocked. Studs for install.
Turbo rebuild.
Oil pump, or do they go bad these days?
Water pump.
Starter.
Manifolds(maybe) up pipes for sure.
EGR delete.
New exhaust. Again.

Then address anything else if there is.

Should I have a set of motor mounts?
How hard to check if they are broke?
I have two buddies in town that have at least one broke.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Nate on July 30, 2020, 11:21:31 AM
If your going to replace the water pump, look at getting one that has been pinned.  Unless the newer ones fixed that issue
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: EL TATE on July 30, 2020, 11:26:56 AM
Ring gear is either good or isn't, but at 300k it would be crazy not to look at the bearings, especially if you're resealing the pan.
Obvious things like accessory pulleys, glow plugs, oil pressure switch..
Can't think of anything else as far as the actual engine goes unless you wanna look at the cam.

CPK sensor still an issue in the LBZ like it was in the LB7 with shearing? Should he be looking at the CP4 with that many miles, or at least get it flow tested?

T-case pump rub kit or new rear case half
inspect the G80, make sure your spiders and the flywheel for the governor cam aren't cracked or worse
brg/backlash check on the gears while you're at it
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 30, 2020, 12:04:08 PM
I have a G80 chunk complete if it’s worth the cost of shipping. Only because Tate shamed me into a grizzly locker....


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: EL TATE on July 30, 2020, 12:18:23 PM
I have a G80 chunk complete if it’s worth the cost of shipping. Only because Tate shamed me into a grizzly locker....


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Not possible when you have no shame sir.  :wink:
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 30, 2020, 01:13:25 PM
CPK sensor? I don’t know this one...
Good idea on the CP3.
T-case, donor is new...so I’ll likely pop it open and swap it.
Diffs I’m quite frankly scared of, no experience. So I’ll be in touch with pics when I venture there.
On that note, how long do the bearings hold out in a diff?

Charles, likely not worth the cost of shipping, but I’ll keep that in mind.
And there is no shame in a grizzly...
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: KensAuto on July 30, 2020, 01:31:07 PM
Crank position sensor Sam. The trigger wheel is on the crankshaft. I don't have any first hand knowledge on those issues. Haven't seen a dmax oil pump go bad either but I bet it's happened.
Definitely mounts at 300k.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: stlaser on July 30, 2020, 03:36:13 PM
I have a G80 chunk complete if it’s worth the cost of shipping. Only because Tate shamed me into a grizzly locker....


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Did you opt in on buying rubber stock when you made that purchase?  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: swbhobie16 on July 30, 2020, 07:25:02 PM
note.

if you want to pull the upper pan, there are 2 bolts that are ‘horizontal’ behind the flywheel. and the crank to flywheel bolts are single use bolts. so if you want to pull the pan to inspect bearings..  make sure it’s done in order. don’t want to buy $60 worth of bolts twice. hahah.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 31, 2020, 09:56:55 AM
Good tidbit there.

So are all of the fasteners inside single use now too?
Something tells me they are.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on April 22, 2021, 10:32:32 AM
Welp, been a while I hold here.

I’m starting to order parts for the motor.

Our “workers” are out on strike rotating different groups and being a giant pita.
I was supposed to stay at the cabin for breakup and do gazebo 2.0.
Now I’m looking at motor as I can’t be gone being management.
Hopefully it ends soon but who knows.
Government interference biggest problem as a crown Corp.

Anyhow.

Getting carts together and trying to sort out the finer points.
Need to figure out who to trust with my heads.

Added to the previous lists are up pipes and manifolds.
Water pump alternator all the wear out type stuff.
CP3 on mine holds 26k+ all day long so I know it’s good(ish) do not know state of donor, and being untuned won’t have the needs the tune does. May have to think about this one some.

Not sure what all else.

Then a thorough oil change on the suspension, noticed I’m leaning to the port side a couple degrees when I had it in at work I change the oil. Will be new leaf packs and hardware t-bars and all that fun stuff. Not looking forward to eating all this dirt but that’s the cost of business of a 300+k truck.

A payment is not even being considered.
Looked at the box of my donor truck a little more yesterday, I think it may be worse than the current. Oh well. I’ll sort that later.



Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on April 23, 2021, 08:42:11 PM
So I think everything’s on the way save for head gaskets.
All ARP fasteners, some of the less critical not going to be ARP.
PPE manis and up pipes made the list.
Started on the “truck” parts too.

And for Dave, I’m about 4K Canadian in, so 3-ish USD.

Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 23, 2021, 10:14:50 PM
That’s so awesome.  Gettin it done ! Saving money and learning new shstuff


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on March 27, 2023, 12:18:47 PM
Hey there.
Another year another project.

Since I refuse to get a new piece of crap sensor laden vehicle, I need to clean up my rust bucket.
Well one or two of those are true.

Cab corners, rockers, wheel wells and wheel houses ordered.
13 x 26 tent shed ordered.
Bodywork stuff inbound and to be picked up shortly.

The I hope I’m not screwing up thoughts going through my mind…

Going to be a project of a different nature this year. Lol.
Just hope it’s warm enough for paint when I’m at that point.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on March 27, 2023, 01:51:09 PM
Well, this is interesting.

So, this is going to keep you on the people side of the river for quite a long time...You good with that? The cabin will be crying out, but the truck will be lovin' it!
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on March 27, 2023, 04:19:37 PM
Well, this is interesting.

So, this is going to keep you on the people side of the river for quite a long time...You good with that? The cabin will be crying out, but the truck will be lovin' it!

My goal is to hit it hard over breakup.
Based on a couple videos I’ve seen and a couple guys hat have done them, the rockers and cab corners “should” only take a couple days. So I’ll call it a week.
Then the box, that’s the great unknown, but that also should only take a few days.
So there’s two weeks I’ll hate myself for.
Heck. Most likely will pull the box off for frame restoring as well as potentially making life easier for paint. Not real sure how it will all play out but I hope I’m three weeks I can knock it out.

That plan “should” get breakup done.
Oh, HH6’s  car will not be around either so there’s that added motivation.

Worst case if I get it to primer I’m better off than I am now.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on March 28, 2023, 09:01:40 PM
I can see saving the cab with all the wiring and such, but just get a rust free bed? Sure you may have to drive and get it or have shipped (costly up there). Driving you just drive to bed, switch and drive home. Just an idea?

Dang I love my LBZ and she needs a little TLC too.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on March 28, 2023, 10:08:51 PM
I can see saving the cab with all the wiring and such, but just get a rust free bed? Sure you may have to drive and get it or have shipped (costly up there). Driving you just drive to bed, switch and drive home. Just an idea?

Dang I love my LBZ and she needs a little TLC too.

I’m over 5k to get one to the border.
I’m still looking but for about 500 bucks and some time I’ll buy a few years I hope.
Then maybe a road trip to Texas or Arizona to find one.
The shipping is the killer.

But you’re right, a rust free bed is in the future, just not this year.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2023, 10:27:05 AM
Yea, JR is onto something. Drive to the southwest, buy the bed, toss it on, discard the old one, then drive home...no tarriff
and you get a little trip out of it

Even better idea:

Have JR find you one, purchase it and leave it on his new property. Then you go down for a visit...

It would fit on Don's farm too if needed, but KY uses salt to snow at a 1/1 ratio...
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on March 29, 2023, 11:16:47 AM
I think you are above me someplace right? Then then are others north of me.

Patch it then look at options?
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on March 30, 2023, 12:42:18 PM
I think you are above me someplace right? Then then are others north of me.

Patch it then look at options?

I'm way up north in Canada. a couple guys will be north of me but not many...lol.

It will be a patch up job for now and I'll keep my eyes open.
There are a few places int he south that have them, so a road trip it will have to be at some point.
Right now its just an eyesore to fix up some.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on March 30, 2023, 12:51:12 PM
Oh, and i added a 62 gallon S&B tank to the mix.
Will go in while the box is off.
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on March 30, 2023, 01:00:58 PM
I just saw a cab for $500.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Nate on March 30, 2023, 07:15:33 PM
Oh, and i added a 62 gallon S&B tank to the mix.
Will go in while the box is off.
 :facepalm:

Make sure you swap out the old fuel lines and don't let them get pinched.  The morons who put my 52 gal titan in my LBZ charged me for new lines that they did not swap out and they pinched one of the lines, which in turn caused a premature cp3 failure.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on April 20, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
So an update for everyone...

Don't go live in the sticks...

Everyone hates shipping to me...LOL
Well not LOL, but i have to laugh or I'd go nuts.

One company I'm dealing with (Or tryin to) "Has staff issues", and three weeks after my order say it will be 3-5 weeks to get the stuff.
This is ok if the clock started day one, not so much if not the case. And with their lack of comms, I still don't know this answer a week later.
I won't publicly diss them yet, as I understand fully the tight on staff pinch, although mine is not based on the propaganda of the Dem-panic.
But it would be nice to answer the phone, or an email more than 24 hours apart...
Rant off.

The second outfit, which at least is communicating, is struggling with shipping, as "the courier companies charge a lot to ship to you, do you have an address in Winnipeg?"
Well duh, none of them come here. So, I'm working with them to get in touch with the truck freight companies that do. 700 miles away is no use to me...
At least they answer emails in a timely fashion.
I ordered a new tailgate from them, so awkwardly large for courier, and dangerously small for truck...
Easy button pressed to repair tailgate, however.
If I can get that sorted, these guys have the rockers I need, and the rest I can Rock Auto, who are rockstars apparently.

At this point, my bug free May body and paint work looks to be pushing to June.
I'm not going to sink any battleships just to be a few days late getting stuff and not having the truck road ready for my grandson's birthday.
Apparently, my work tent is requested for the party, so if it was new in box would be possibly better than painted...
 :beercheers:

Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 04:46:31 PM
So, lots happening in my world.
All of my parts are finally here...well almost, some ended up in the city due to shipping conundrums.

And I started a thing.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230523/258156760e31c0134a832cae4efd97ca.jpg)
Removal of this may cause a trigger for some of y’all.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230523/f32894e492c011a2ccc809f18546c122.jpg)
It’s as bad as it looks. Maybe worse.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230523/ec35aab840212dea086976c704198ef0.jpg)
Trace out the margins with sharpie.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230523/fa5597ed8785ff6e3a8bdf321aa99460.jpg)

And full send.
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Wheel house and arch all out.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 04:54:30 PM
A little clean up inside the panels with scrapers, wire brush and sprayed some rust oleum primer to buy me some years.

Then the grinder to clean up some steel.

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The repeated tedious test fits.
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And starting to glue it back together.
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Lots of dots…
And not the normal DOT this site is familiar with. Lol.
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Done for the evening.
Only a few hours in so far.


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Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 04:57:44 PM
Then onto the drivers side.
Much the same but worse in the decay department.

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No need to repeat the laundry cycle.
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Rain was coming later yestertag.
I head south Thursday.
Not getting body work and paint done.

So I Volkswagen’d it.
Farfromgooden…
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But guudfromfar…
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A huge clean up from Friday.
This will seal it up till I get to the next page.

About 9 hours in so far for anyone keeping track.
It seems so far I’m on official auto body shop type time line.

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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on May 23, 2023, 05:51:47 PM
Looks better for sure. You really just need a bed.

Shipping to CN I won't do either (well maybe for some) Sold a part on Ebay once, got hit with a 10% tax from CN a month or so later.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 07:57:00 PM
Yeah I sure do. This will buy me a couple years maybe even a bit beyond.
I need a road trip.
Between customs shipping and taxes and duties I just can’t do it.
Triples the cost at least.
Just need to stop the world for a few weeks to make time. Lol.

Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on May 23, 2023, 08:03:11 PM
Yeah, with customs and shipping just make a road trip and replace the bed on site. Same truck, new bed, no shipping, no customs and a little trip.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2023, 08:05:53 PM
This is not a show truck so that repair is fine. You're right, it will buy you a bunch of years. Think about spraying some 3M cavity wax on the underside. That will stabilize it and waterproof it for more than 10 years.

I did that to my Chevy and after 12 years, it has zero rust. Not even scaly stuff. Get the 6" wands with the 360 nozzles and come in through the taillights after you remove them...
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 08:17:33 PM
I haven’t done any bodywork yet. That will come right before paint.
This was just to seal it up for now.

The cavity between is done too.
80% of the paint was flaking.
It’s bad.

I’ll look for the cavity wax however as everything will help buy time.
When I paint the bed will be off so access will be better for the insides too.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on May 23, 2023, 08:24:58 PM
I haven’t done any bodywork yet. That will come right before paint.
This was just to seal it up for now.

The cavity between is done too.
80% of the paint was flaking.
It’s bad.

I’ll look for the cavity wax however as everything will help buy time.
When I paint the bed will be off so access will be better for the insides too.

So, if it's off, any chance of getting it dipped and coated right out of the rinse tank?
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 08:32:33 PM
No not really.
It’s my way to get to wherever that would be.
I just need to plan a vacation and do it.
The other part that may or may not be public knowledge here is I’d like to long box it too.
So I’m not putting 100% in any particular direction just yet. 
If I can find a 25 or 3500 long box frame that is worth it’s salt that’s a game changer.
Had a bead on one relatively local but it had been SAS’d by a hack.
No good.
So yeah, I’m just gonna limp it along for now.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 08:42:39 PM
Oh.
The other thing I started.
On the parts truck, doors are coming over.
Got the eraser wheel out and debaged and demoulded.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 23, 2023, 08:56:13 PM
100% support all long bed life choice. I’ll NEVER Go back as long as I have a thing to tow.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on May 23, 2023, 09:02:51 PM
I see them all over the place down here. Some are totals but a long bed is just the rear welded onto a front frame. Cut it off weld it on and seal it.

If you have a CC, you have a long bed truck. I like turning better vs long bed. We all have our preferances.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: stlaser on May 23, 2023, 10:20:30 PM
Where are you at in Canada again?
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 10:36:09 PM
Northern Manitoba.
700 odd miles north of Winnipeg.
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Post by: JR on May 23, 2023, 10:42:15 PM
Might be better to boat it in!
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Post by: Sammconn on May 23, 2023, 10:49:15 PM
Not quite that far north. Lol.
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Post by: stlaser on May 23, 2023, 11:12:22 PM
Wow, I’m a little over 1k miles from Winnipeg so you really are in the sticks as I’m looking at a map! I do have contacts with several major dismantlers down here and get good pricing so if I can help let me know.
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Post by: JR on May 23, 2023, 11:18:00 PM
Thats what I was looking at. 700mi north of Winnipeg you said?
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Post by: Sammconn on May 31, 2023, 02:51:35 PM
Wow, I’m a little over 1k miles from Winnipeg so you really are in the sticks as I’m looking at a map! I do have contacts with several major dismantlers down here and get good pricing so if I can help let me know.

Shawn, I’ll keep this in mind.
I had to act on this this year or it would get too far to save IMO.
I’d be after a reasonable long box crew cab frame.
Likely still need a Texas box however.
I’d want a good one for sure.
Frame can be cleaned up, and most likely better than my current save for Michigan Illinois salt belt ones.
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Post by: Sammconn on May 31, 2023, 02:58:42 PM
So I took a week off to address a few projects.
Mama is in Mexico with a girlfriend for a birthday party.

So I’m cleaning up little and not so little things.
First up was empty truck and trailer but that’s for another thread.

This update includes why I haven’t had anti stop brakes for the last decade or better.
I honestly don’t recall when the module failed but was many 100k miles ago. 10-12 years I’d wager.

So I pulled the electrical part of the module off the spare truck and swapped it into my truck.
Lo and behold no more lights and excessive dinging. Lol.
Test drive to come as I forget how they (fail)work.
Yeah, I’m not even a fan of that old of tech…

One of the coils was broken off the board.
I’ll do a how to on that if I can fix it.
It’s a work in progress but I need my good solder station at work ti finish up.

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Post by: JR on May 31, 2023, 05:10:26 PM
Yep, that will do it!
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 02, 2023, 06:57:44 PM
That's a solid find!//Fix!
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Post by: JR on June 02, 2023, 07:07:04 PM
The motor and sensor on the unit are known to go bad.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2023, 09:33:46 AM
Well, I have yet to look at the anti-stop brake module but am pressing forward on the bodywork.

So last night it all started back up.
First had to put the battery back into the donor...yes, battery...
Had to boost truck at marina a week or so ago, all that week it seemed to be turning over slower and slower.
In any case, swapped out batteries, charged the ones and found one to hold 13 volts, the other 10...
So, the good one is in the donor, the old one will go for salvage.

Got the driveway re-arranged for space for parts and off came the topper. (First time since new, me and two other guys for simplicity)
Then dropped the spare and removed the eight bed bolts.
They came out with essentially no fuss and onto the fuel filler neck.
Well, they twisted out of the plastic, and voila the fill neck was off.
Last was the electrical. Well, there's a beauty of a terminal junction on these old girls, but the bumper was impeding my access.
Hadn't planned to remove it, but all the muck, gunk and 350k of crud needed cleaned out so I didn't break stuff.
Off came the bumper, quick spray with water and all the connections quicky came off.

Tonight, me and three guys will walk the bed onto the sawhorses pictured to the right and I'll be able to get at the frame for a well needed cleanup.
Other activities will ensue as well on the less seen parts.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2023, 09:36:05 AM
Can someone explain to me how to right these pictures...
Darned technology makes them all the right way on devices, but then this happens...upside down and sideways...
Copied to PC upright even...

 :knucklehead:
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Post by: stlaser on June 22, 2023, 12:03:38 PM
My stupid quick fix on the pictures goes like this w/ an iPhone at least.

-Prior to posting the picture open it up on your phone and view it.

-Edit & rotate picture to incorrect rotation

-Save it

-Edit it again and save in correct rotation.

-Now post and it should be correct. I’m not computer savvy really but this always works for me.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on June 22, 2023, 12:50:36 PM
Seems it happens on Iphone most. If you DL to PC then open, save and post you shoulbe good.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2023, 02:06:23 PM
Seems it happens on Iphone most. If you DL to PC then open, save and post you shoulbe good.
These were downloaded to PC…
Had stupid iPhone for years and still can’t take a picture the right way.
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Post by: JR on June 22, 2023, 03:11:26 PM
Maybe its apple software then. I like my android!
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Post by: Nate on June 22, 2023, 04:05:15 PM
http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=4935.0

Here's the answer to your prayers sam
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Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2023, 05:09:20 PM
http://real-man-truckworks-and-survival.com/index.php?topic=4935.0

Here's the answer to your prayers sam
Sure is… thanks!
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Post by: JR on June 22, 2023, 05:54:16 PM
BTW. I ALWAYs use landscape for pictures unless its a odd picture. Live is in landscape, not tictoc portrait!!
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Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2023, 10:40:36 PM
Trigger warning for those named Dave.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 22, 2023, 10:45:10 PM
Got the box off tonight.
It’s ugly. But it’s all minor.
Probably 30 pounds of gravel and dirt in everywhere.

Pressure washed and removed a lot of stuff.
Even with 350k there’s still that black wax crap everywhere.
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Post by: JR on June 22, 2023, 10:51:10 PM
Could be a lot worse. Just the crap I get from winter driving here is bad, yours must be 10 fold.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 23, 2023, 05:05:17 AM
Trigger warning for those named Dave.
Why am I to be triggered ? I see nothin wrong here

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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on June 23, 2023, 07:16:58 AM
The rust.
The lack of staying on top of this. Lol.
And maybe it’s it you that’s our resident rust-o-phobic.

I do know you probably have spent more time already cleaning on your new ride than I have on this one. And some of that is why I’m here.
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 23, 2023, 06:00:07 PM
With a few hours of wire cup and some other tools and a fresh coating it will look great!
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Post by: JR on June 23, 2023, 06:22:31 PM
Just sand blast it. Messier buy will get everywhere.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 24, 2023, 02:58:22 PM
Will be a combo of the two.
Have a gynormous sandblasted from work that my good compressor may run for a few seconds a tank full. Have a smaller unit from a buddy, may be too small for any good.
Have a few wire cups as well. It’ll get cleaned up and a few treatments prior to POR15 and then undercoating if I bought enough.
Cab corners and rockers are in the docket for this week(end) not sure how well it will go.
Rain in the forecast so work with doors off may not fly. Lol.
Amazed how light the box was, and how sturdy it still is. I thought it was flapping in the wind over bumps but I can’t move the bed sides from the gate opening.
Lots to do but it only is time and effort. I can spare both of those so we’ll see where we’re at by next weekend.
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Post by: JR on June 24, 2023, 04:10:51 PM
Did mine in driveway at old place. Just used a cheap HF with play, but got the job done. Tarped, sifted old stuff, round and round.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 24, 2023, 11:43:48 PM
Spent the day at the lake.
Caught a few walleye for another day and came home to start rippin and tearin into the rockers and cab corners. So part of that is the removal of front fenders…

Yikes!

Good thing the donor had good ones. Whew…
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2023, 10:48:50 AM
Wow!
I thought you didn't have salt that far north?
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 25, 2023, 11:46:14 AM
While I may have more hours into cleaning my new truck I can definitely say you run your truck a whole lot more then I do as well

Your pickup has been real good to you.

Definitely not judging here. 


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on June 25, 2023, 08:38:50 PM
The salt comes with the visits south. But yeah they use it here too.

Today started into it.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/1a6c6996028af33c59ca47f656f6d11c.jpg)
Marked out the new cab corner and started drilling spot welds out.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/c4b635442c5f81bd3f653e7cdadf6fd3.jpg)
Cut line moved one inch down to start.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/1f7bce998be3ad8d7e58b08a5e2a41c1.jpg)
That cut revealed a real mess and was not high enough. Inside was compromised enough to go up the inch.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/265b34cc532a8850117fa34fac052a90.jpg)
And there is sound metal. Not sure what the foamed in piece is, I suspect dust or moisture control or both. But it created a crisp line of good metal.


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Post by: Sammconn on June 25, 2023, 08:44:55 PM
Then recruited help to pull doors.
Saw a couple videos where guys dropped them and broke glass…so nope I can get help.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/07d976fc252899d7414c37029d821d62.jpg)
I gutted out a bunch of interior in the rain this morning. Loads of Killmat going on a lot of the cab.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/5d7de42b68541c084461432bd7f6f32f.jpg)
Took the front fender off as it needed to to get all the rocker. That’s a pain in the butt. New rocker out to test fit and mark out.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/fc9696166c7de81fb7b8d1d24f867370.jpg)

And commence the cuttin.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/252137efc00a2050fa25544b95f7affe.jpg)
All the dirt and rust and dust….
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230626/3db604a48bf8c6e03ef90b37274157bd.jpg)
Out with the air hammer and chiseled off the rocker.
Done for today lots of fitting and cleaning to do.
Sandblasting next up on the inner rocker. Then final fit and weld er up of the outer.


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Post by: JR on June 25, 2023, 08:51:10 PM
At least they don't use that crap here. The gunk is bad enough.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 25, 2023, 11:28:51 PM
Oof, thats a bunch of work right there…..


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on June 28, 2023, 07:58:14 AM
Charles…that’s definitely one way to put it.
I figure I’m about 10 hours into the drivers side now.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230628/57ecc9b0bd19540325742cd824c2c33e.jpg)
Sandblasted and added a patch at the bottom at the back half of the inner. It was a tad soft, so with clean metal what better time.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230628/59b91b6d2b0ca74f14d1571c455c9cf6.jpg)
Not fitting pics, as it’s lather rinse repeat same as bed sides was. My buddies son is a millwright in training. What’s to fix his truck up and is giving me a hand with the unwieldy rockers. After I burned a few spot welds on o figured it’s sound enough steel to let him at it. He did good for first mig welding.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230628/2db220b16e268011209be4c5a2cca297.jpg)
Blanket it to minimize the fires…
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230628/cf5c3a5f164a08145cd95332387e023e.jpg)
Welded and ground out.
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Doors back on. If you look close you may notice a big gap at the back. You may not as well. The rocker was twisted some and not until the top tacked and doors back on was it noticeable. We had to push a quarter inch down to align the door gap. Small patch inside and gone.


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Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2023, 10:29:12 AM
It's amazing to see how quickly you build/fix things Sam! I guess you are a slave to the weather. Afterall, no matter what time of year you are talking, the snow is coming!

Good work so far. Bringing life back to a worthy truck...
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Post by: JR on June 28, 2023, 12:44:26 PM
Looks like its cleaning up nice albeit lots of work!
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Post by: Sammconn on June 28, 2023, 02:00:14 PM
I’ve been forced into a corner which is the main drive. Aside from not having my truck.
19 July 2023 come hell of high water a trailer load of stuff will be heading south behind me.

The sheet metal place killed my timeline. Was nearly two months to get.

And yeah, when I go, I really go.
I grew up not poor but not well off on a farm.
Looking at the world now that work ethic is hard to find these days.
By 14 I was building road worthy trailers to haul farm equipment on.
By 16 I was rebuilding engines for vehicles and equipment.
I had a torch in one hand and a welder in the other so to speak.
So fabricating and repairing is in my blood and my blood is usually on it too. Lol.

Plan is to have cab done by end of weekend ready for paint.
Need to do Nor-cal Nic fender tuck while I’m in here.
Fenders and hood from donor don’t need a lot.
Box has a couple days prep left.

All goes well by next weekend I could be painting.
Will hinge on the frame cleanup out back as well our union staff may be beginning labour action this weekend. Puts me on call if it does go, so may distract my time from work.

Aggressive schedule yes, but like you said, winter is coming

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Post by: EL TATE on June 28, 2023, 06:00:15 PM
winter is coming

Very fitting quote there sir. our king in the north.
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Post by: Sammconn on June 30, 2023, 07:55:40 AM
Well missed a day. Was a busy past couple at work. And in the driveway I suppose too.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/75345c0301c087636f86bd9dcddb802c.jpg)
Got the cab corner fitted and in.
The metal I thought was sound looking gave me fits welding it in, but it’s done.

Somehow I missed the fender mod pics.
I’ll get that on the passenger side I suppose.

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Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on June 30, 2023, 08:06:47 AM
As I switched the truck around to do the passenger side one of my buddies sends me this meme.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/8e24139f63c3bf3a925679ce508a56be.jpg)

I laughed pretty hard…

Then sent him this picture.

 
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And he laighed pretty hard.
Only difference is tires basically.

So all tore down and passenger side commenced.
I should have taken an on the truck picture.
This is why you change the full rocker.
If you think a slip on is good enough you had better be cleaning up to sell.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/8a59c3659e7a79e6aa182afec0720bcf.jpg)

It’s totally ugly and upside down. But you’d want to believe a slip on would fix you up.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/5bdb03c45d274a70175629ebbb9bb601.jpg)
Nope.
That is very heavy corrosion to the door jambs basically. Not fit to weld to for sure.

So I spent the evening derusting via flap wheel, sandblaster and skin.
Passenger side prepped to start the rebuild tomorrow.
Mama coming home from the south today(with any luck) so I’ll be repositioning her to the lake tonight.

Oh, and for all y’all hearing about or living with the Forrest fire smoke. We’re there too.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230630/d8382f386412d579dae6386920e51d6b.jpg)
This does not show it nearly as thick as I see it.
But it’s another beautifu day in the great not currently white north.

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Post by: Flyin6 on June 30, 2023, 09:00:43 AM
All the way down in Kentucky, visibility was down to one mile or less two days ago. Remarkable that there is that much smoke. That is hundreds of thousands of square miles of affected area!
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Post by: JR on June 30, 2023, 01:05:22 PM
Sam, thats me right now with all my projects,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by: Sammconn on July 01, 2023, 10:55:47 PM
Well a bit of an update.
Lather ronse repeat continues.

Passenger side welded up now.
Thunderstorm set in this afternoon and put a halt to me getting to bodywork.

Cab is ready.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/642ee890b5f92f83658b67b407eb5d91.jpg)

Since it was raining I pulled the shocks off the back.
Have new hardware for them. Had to put in some ground down grade five bolts when I changed the shocks. Old bolts were done.
Then started some sound deadening.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/408d9198a966e99047a33e65a2c8b895.jpg)
Got the back of the cab done now. The 3 am callout is catching up now. So short day today. Only 12-13 hours. Lol.

With any luck tomorrow the sun shines most of the day and I’ll have the bodywork done and maybe some primer on.


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Post by: stlaser on July 02, 2023, 12:32:42 AM
Clean work  :likebutton:
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 02, 2023, 09:52:46 AM
I love the sound of that sound deadening Matt when you try and slam the door and it’s just smooth.  How else would you describe that sound?


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on July 02, 2023, 10:10:30 AM
I love the sound of that sound deadening Matt when you try and slam the door and it’s just smooth.  How else would you describe that sound?


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Sounds solid to me. I did the whole cab of the Duramax truck last summer and it had more of a "Museum/library" (lack of) sound quality to it. Gone was the "tinniness" and resonance. Made the cab feel, well, stronger and more solid. I was dealing with a side outlet exhaust, and it helped with that.
Put a square on the inside of the door panel, find a place on the inside of the fender, and if the headliner is off, onto the bottom side of the roof. It will stop all the natural vibrations of the component parts.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 02, 2023, 05:18:59 PM
Well the long days are paying off.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/0e579d0c3e37fc337b37a3563c3e7368.jpg)
Got the back of the van done last night.
It rained all night. We need it.
Woke up to a touch of sun and it’s been a beautiful day to work outside.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/c403c2549a66a61f3d39ce27772d0129.jpg)
Nor-Cal tuck done on both sides now. Hope it helps with the tire rub.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/54adb7496df84ffe316fb34be22a0831.jpg)
Wedding and grinding done.
On to filler…I hate filler amd the sanding rust goes with it.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/812cd7139a564a5c82802fd5b99ef307.jpg)
Passenger done on to driver.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/e7a0c5ed95948e172eb9a9e0925b12b3.jpg)
Mix apply sand clean repeat…
On to primer.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/e3b72d573ed16d96c5b510f70faf7f9a.jpg)
A very crude masking, as I’m doing the whole cab later. Just need to get the bare metal covered.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230702/f39aa097d8ff0a79462e7eacd05a9f47.jpg)
And done for now.
I’m a day ahead of where I wanted to be. This is a good thing.

Next up, big driveway clean.
Raise the paint booth.
Prep and paint the cab.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on July 02, 2023, 05:50:44 PM
Inflatable booth?
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Post by: Sammconn on July 02, 2023, 06:00:42 PM
Inflatable booth?
Nah, one of those party tent things.
13 x 26 or there about.
Full sides and ends.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 02, 2023, 11:23:16 PM
What's not to like about all this?

Great progress.

I don't mind body filler when used correctly, like it has been used here

Should be just fine.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 03, 2023, 09:44:34 PM
Wow, Sam.  No grass growing under your feet, sir.


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Post by: JR on July 04, 2023, 12:14:28 AM
Does grass grow up there?

Great work!!
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Post by: Sammconn on July 06, 2023, 02:07:44 PM
Yeah I got great grass in the back yard.
Front a different story. Both get mowed and Mother Nature. But enough about the grass.

A small non update update.

Got the tent up and truck inside.
Noticed the cooling stack was close (read: touching) the rad. No fenders no nothing so yeah battery and gravity did their thing. Ratchet strap pulled it back out.

Then was time to pull the fuel tank.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230706/a409a0533b3c0b0b40088d44bb55bb83.jpg)
The lines disconnected easily despite my fear of the rotten appearance.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230706/bb2e1d66dd17735258c82551d6c3e2a8.jpg)
And on the ground and out.

I then spent several hours scraping, wire brushing, flap wheeling, and vacuuming the frame.

Broke out the POR-15 prep stuff and did that.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230706/d112fd1edc2c64e35feb3c574ca82188.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230706/c517003fb3f86fbe15151423b6104f7d.jpg)
And with a gazillion percent humidity I was not getting to paint last night.


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Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 06, 2023, 02:15:06 PM
I refocused on the cab.

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Stone chips…
Lots
And
Lots
Of
Them
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Talked to my windshield guy. This trim is in the way.
It comes with new windshield. Whew.
Out with a razor knife and gone with the trim.

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So once again full send with the sander.
Ground out the rust t as far as the 120 grit would take me.

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Then coated the works with some sort of rust converter in a can.
Now to let stuff dry out.

FWIW, this isn’t hard.
Just hard to begin the full send on cutting/sanding etc.


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Post by: Atkinsmatt on July 06, 2023, 03:29:54 PM
Wow.  Great progress.
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Post by: stlaser on July 06, 2023, 04:38:47 PM
Huge undertaking, nice work  :likebutton:
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 06, 2023, 10:57:20 PM
What about pulling that front glass? I imagine there is some rust under that.  And new seals for that sunroof might be nice?  If it’s even an option to buy these days


That rear end is gonna look killer!! (https://media4.giphy.com/media/12U2rLJsNV0mIg/giphy.gif)


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Post by: Flyin6 on July 06, 2023, 10:58:30 PM
Good golly man!
You sound like my kin!
A rusty cab corner somehow means the fuel tank is dropped and the windshield is coming out.
I'm keeping in mind that some of the interior has already been gutted
You're next to completely rebuilding this thing in a few weeks...!
Psycho!!!
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Post by: Sammconn on July 07, 2023, 01:49:17 PM
What about pulling that front glass? I imagine there is some rust under that.  And new seals for that sunroof might be nice?  If it’s even an option to buy these days


That rear end is gonna look killer!! (https://media4.giphy.com/media/12U2rLJsNV0mIg/giphy.gif)


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Pulling front glass destroys it for future use, at least all variants of removal I’m familiar with.

If my glass guy was coming before I needed to got south it would already be out. However, not my luck.

Now, if when he’s up and it’s nasty, I’ll likey do some quick metal surgery and then install the new glass.
Can always bodywork and paint after.

And heck, I know a guy that has the right paint and skills…


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Post by: Sammconn on July 07, 2023, 01:53:26 PM
Good golly man!
You sound like my kin!
A rusty cab corner somehow means the fuel tank is dropped and the windshield is coming out.
I'm keeping in mind that some of the interior has already been gutted
You're next to completely rebuilding this thing in a few weeks...!
Psycho!!!
Right…

To be fair the fuel tank drop at this point is twofold.

1 - gives me access to the frame rails to clean up and coat.
2 - was coming out regardless while the bed was off to swap in the 62 gallon S&B setting out back of the house currently.

The interior above the carpet is nearly completely gone you are correct.

I think you said stupid wrong, but I can accept psycho an an equivalent alternative.

Now if only I had more than twelve days to complete it…gonna be a hard push coming in the next week.


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Post by: Sammconn on July 07, 2023, 02:03:32 PM
So todays last night update.

It was raining most of the day.
The tent did it’s job, but with near 100% humidity, rain all day and no airflow, we’ll you guessed.

The tent was its own ecosystem and was about to rain. The entire roof was rain drops.

So I opened up a box fan and put it in a doorway as exhaust.

I then started the hour to sand the cab.
Well about four hours into that hour, I’d reached the point that I was happy-ish. Two spots need more filler, one I knew of, and one ding I didn’t. Could nearly sand it out, but why leave the dimple.

That’s tonight’s start point.

I began with a quick and dirty clean with winded to get the bull of the dust and sanding fines off. Then started the masking of doors and back window.

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1/2” to 3/4” to 2” for papering.
Found I I have a ton or primer overspray on the windshield. Not sure how that happened.

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At this point it was nearing zero dark stupid so time to hit the rack for a few hours.

Todays plan is to get it in primer so tomorrow I can sand it all flat again and add some code 59 metallic silver birch back on the cab and cover with some coats of clear.
Not sure there are enough hours to mask and spray today, but heck, lots of time to sleep once I’m gone.


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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 07, 2023, 07:58:11 PM
A fresh razor blade will make quick work of glass overspray. 


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Post by: Sammconn on July 07, 2023, 08:42:29 PM
Indeed.
Thanks for the reminder.
I did know that just forgot and would have scrubbed my finger off…


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Post by: Sammconn on July 07, 2023, 08:45:15 PM
Big step forward tonight.

Primer is on.
One drop of sweat…hope it doesn’t mess it up.
Not holding my breath tho. Likely will need to touch that spot up.

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A proper masking job this time around.
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And primer.

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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 08, 2023, 09:55:20 AM
Lookin good! Now to hand sand all of it lol


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Post by: Sammconn on July 08, 2023, 10:04:44 AM
Lookin good! Now to hand sand all of it lol


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I know right…not looking too forward to this.

The good news is it’s about 55 right now so nice and cool to do it.
It’s also raining, so no rush.
Can’t paint in the rain.
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Post by: oklawall on July 08, 2023, 10:24:10 AM
And some people wonder why body work and paint are so high. They have never done it!

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Post by: Sammconn on July 08, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
Did a bunch of wet sandng hoping it was ready.
Nope.

Couple more spots requiring filler showed up.
Its on and curing.

Then reshoot a small batch of primer.
Read through all my data sheets.
Turns out only the paint needs 70+. That’s good news.
They all need 80% humidity or less.
I’m right at 80 this morning.
Will mix a tad extra hardner into the primer.


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Post by: JR on July 09, 2023, 03:22:28 PM
You are ambitious!
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Post by: Sammconn on July 09, 2023, 06:52:55 PM
So yesterday I finally got around to getting colour back on it.

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And it looked good…
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Until it didn’t…


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Post by: Sammconn on July 09, 2023, 06:56:20 PM
So this morning I took to going over it all again.

Had a few bugs that took paint off.
Also had some bonehead press a fingerprint in.
The paint had started to fire not was far form hardened.

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Sanded out the smile. Shot primer again.

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Fingerprint removed.

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Reshot theee coats on the repairs and another full coat on the entire cab.
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And three coats of clear.

It looks pretty darned good.

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Post by: Sammconn on July 09, 2023, 07:00:20 PM
Oh yeah,

While I was waiting on the paint to harden some before sanding it all out I worked on the hind end some.

And Dave…
It does look good!


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Now for any of you who have used POR-15 you’ll understand the bi wheat move I took part in.
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I should have had long sleeves too…
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That mess goes clear to my elbows.

There ain’t no amount of any solvent that the skin can handle long enough to soften and remove this stuff…

I’ll have to wear it off. 


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Post by: JR on July 09, 2023, 08:03:09 PM
Been there, looked like that,,,,,,,,,,

Put a bug zapper in the tent?
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 10, 2023, 06:39:48 AM
Yup. Gloves and long sleeves. Can’t help the face thing. Dunno?


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Post by: stlaser on July 10, 2023, 09:41:23 AM
Yeah, been there and done that & hate myself afterwards!  :tongue:
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 10, 2023, 09:43:25 AM
Parts of your face are now completely waterproof!

Lucky you!

Truck is looking great!!!!
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 10, 2023, 01:03:06 PM
Try using a callus stone to scrub your hands

Something like this is what I use.

Maryton Foot Pumice Stone for Feet Hard Skin Callus Remover and Scrubber (Pack of 4) (Blue) https://a.co/d/77JOK09

Just like sand paper but works wonders on your hands and paint or epoxy


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Post by: Sammconn on July 10, 2023, 02:08:42 PM
Dave, read that somewhere too.
Don’t have one here, and none in town.

I did go try an hour soak and scotch brite…

From the POR site, once dry you have to wear it off…
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Post by: Sammconn on July 12, 2023, 11:12:00 AM
Ok.
Been a slow go.
Lost one night to work.

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Time to play what’s on this box Alex for $1500…

Look here. A new 62 gallon tank!

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The new S&B tank dwarfs the OEM tiny thing.
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It took a hold my beer moment but the tank got under the truck. Not sure why the instructions claim this to possibly new to be jacked. I needed 8-10” jacked to clear, and still needed to rotate it into position.

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From there a pretty simple install, Jack into place and secure the two new tank straps.
Then a new cross brace for the front.
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Fit was very good and clearances seem on all around.

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With the now 6” or taller tank, S&B sends a new pickup and sending unit with this model.
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Was an absolute bear to get the lock ring on, which is a good thing IMO.
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All plumbed back in, and Nate, no crushed hoses.
Having the box off was a treat and possibly indication why so many have issues with pinched lines. There is NO room, like NONE to reach in or anything. The over crossmember vent connector almost had me want to remove the driveshaft.
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Tucked up all nice and neat.
One more punch list item gone.


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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 12, 2023, 11:38:57 AM
All things you have off the truck now, I don’t think the four bolts for the driveline would have hurt

I want one of them monster tanks on my dually but taking the bed off seems extremely complicated with only one person at the house to help me lift it off.


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Post by: JR on July 12, 2023, 01:35:04 PM
Heck, I would do that option in a second if I didn't have 52 gal in there now.

New pickup, flush with frame and 10 more gallons!
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Post by: Sammconn on July 12, 2023, 07:24:32 PM
Dave, the four bolts in he way were conducting a pivotal role in the hood my beer scenario.

The truck was precariously perched on an on edge 4x6” timber. The front was at max lift of my floor Jack amd the only thing holding the truck from rolling down the driveway was the driveshaft.

Now for the install, on your new dually.
Don’t be afraid. I had 17 years of mud, gunk, and whatever crud and corrosion we all saw.
Get a good set of Lisle fuel line disconnects and do it. The bed off just made access easy for me. On something newer I wouldn’t hesitate to leave the bed on.

I can’t wait to not have to stop for fuel all the time.


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Post by: Nate on July 12, 2023, 07:45:10 PM
Sam, did you put new rubber fuel hoses in with the new tank?
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 12, 2023, 07:53:29 PM
Dude, sorry, but you've definitely crossed over into fluid change territory!  :huh:

Does anyone else agree??? 
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Post by: Sammconn on July 12, 2023, 08:06:57 PM
Dude, sorry, but you've definitely crossed over into fluid change territory!  :huh:

Does anyone else agree???

Guilty as charged…

 :beercheers: :beercheers:
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 12, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
Dude, sorry, but you've definitely crossed over into fluid change territory!  :huh:

Does anyone else agree???

Guilty as charged…

 :beercheers: :beercheers:
Hey, you're not supposed to shoot yourself in the foot! Leave that to us! ;-)
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 12, 2023, 09:06:43 PM
Dude, sorry, but you've definitely crossed over into fluid change territory!  :huh:

Does anyone else agree???
I’d say he’s not even fifty percent there,

Still has the engine installed, the Og wheels n tires and zero talk of a mall mulch bed removal winch n bumper combo.


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Post by: JR on July 12, 2023, 10:27:21 PM
Much less you get to pick where to fill up. Might only be 10-20 a gallon, but throw 30-40 gallons in and its a good savings. I know you do ltrs up there and it costs more too.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 13, 2023, 08:58:53 AM
Sam, did you put new rubber fuel hoses in with the new tank?
Nate, I didn’t.
Didn’t even cross my mind…

I hope I don’t need to anytime soon.
FWIW all the rubber bits on this are still OE and are still good in appearance.
Brake lines fuel lines etc.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 13, 2023, 12:16:55 PM
Working on a punch list of sorts, as time is my enemy.
HH6 coming home from lake for a few days, so I'll put here to work with a few of these items.

in the next day:
Front fenders, batteries et al associated
light buckets
grill
hood
windshield wipers
Interior plastics
carpet shampoo
Doors
Back seat broken cable to swap.

Then I can get it out of the tent to work on the bed.

I feel two to three days needed for:
Clean and weld broken spot welds in bed (they are everywhere)
clean and undercoat bottom
bodywork and paint outside
bedliner in box (time permitting)
Tailgate paint and assemble.

That puts me at Monday night.
Tuesday drop the box onto the frame and should be a day to spare.

That leads to more work...
upon return, prep and paint new front fenders.
prep and paint other hood (it's in a bit better shape)
tear the front all down again to change in these parts.

Now, my question for all y'all.
Should i put the fender flares back on?
I have mixed feelings now about them.
Most of me wants them for the stone protection they provide. (Which I think answers my question)
But another most of me is appalled by the damage they caused by holding dirt.
I think that means I need to wash the truck a bit more regularly is all.
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Post by: JR on July 13, 2023, 12:57:59 PM
I would not put the flares on, that was much of the damage. I would add simple muds flaps or steps, type you can clean off and doesn't trap crud.
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Post by: Nate on July 13, 2023, 01:54:45 PM
Sam, did you put new rubber fuel hoses in with the new tank?
Nate, I didn’t.
Didn’t even cross my mind…

I hope I don’t need to anytime soon.
FWIW all the rubber bits on this are still OE and are still good in appearance.
Brake lines fuel lines etc.

So the reason I am saying that Sam, is when I had my lbz, those short little rubber fuel hose sections would collapse when hot and starve the cp3, which caused premature failure.

I know you just did all that high $$$ work on the engine rebuild, and I mention this because I would hate to see all that hard work and $$$ get flushed because of a failure of an 8" little rubber hose.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2023, 03:29:43 PM
Now, my question for all y'all.
Should i put the fender flares back on?
I have mixed feelings now about them.
Most of me wants them for the stone protection they provide. (Which I think answers my question)
But another most of me is appalled by the damage they caused by holding dirt.
I think that means I need to wash the truck a bit more regularly is all.

I do not like them
But they do provide protection, and I have the stock ones on the Suburban, still.
I would wrap the fender lip from just inside outward a couple inches with that clear plastic or vinyl stuff that is built to protect against rock chips.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 13, 2023, 03:40:55 PM
Sam, did you put new rubber fuel hoses in with the new tank?
Nate, I didn’t.
Didn’t even cross my mind…

I hope I don’t need to anytime soon.
FWIW all the rubber bits on this are still OE and are still good in appearance.
Brake lines fuel lines etc.

So the reason I am saying that Sam, is when I had my lbz, those short little rubber fuel hose sections would collapse when hot and starve the cp3, which caused premature failure.

I know you just did all that high $$$ work on the engine rebuild, and I mention this because I would hate to see all that hard work and $$$ get flushed because of a failure of an 8" little rubber hose.
Understood.
I’m not in the heat really either like you guys all are.
Doesn’t mean it won’t happen either.
But, I do have an air dog to install possibly. If I can find real estate for it.
That doesn’t replace the hoses but would keep them inflated.
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Post by: JR on July 13, 2023, 04:09:33 PM
My pump is under the filler neck. Close to the tank so plumbing was easy and added a shield to stop tire crud.

I used a generic Carter pump with a 10 micron water filter.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 14, 2023, 03:50:33 PM
So, new fenders make it to the kiddo's place in a good state.
Need put hood and doors on tonight and the ruck can go back outside.

Pulled the CAC pipe and it was full of oil, like fuller than when I pulled the engine.
So, in the true form of a fluid change a new one is ordered and, in the mail, quite literally.

It will be replaced while the front fenders are off next time.
With any luck, this will eliminate my excessive oil use, lack of boost and mileage.
Those are the big three symptoms I'm facing, and they have been getting progressively worse.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 14, 2023, 07:47:31 PM
So, new fenders make it to the kiddo's place in a good state.
Need put hood and doors on tonight and the ruck can go back outside.

Pulled the CAC pipe and it was full of oil, like fuller than when I pulled the engine.
So, in the true form of a fluid change a new one is ordered and, in the mail, quite literally.

It will be replaced while the front fenders are off next time.
With any luck, this will eliminate my excessive oil use, lack of boost and mileage.
Those are the big three symptoms I'm facing, and they have been getting progressively worse.

...Dangerously close to pulling something big off the motor...
Be careful
When you cross over, it all comes apart...
;-)
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Post by: Sammconn on July 16, 2023, 06:14:03 PM
Been a busy few days.
Unfortunately at work not the truck.
But still pushing forward.

Wednesday night I repulmbed the air bags.
That took Tuesday night getting parts from a buddy. Which took a few hours and a few beers.

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Started by removing the original leaking fittings. The leaks are on me as I didn’t put any schmoo on them and said meh, this that is here is good. Knowing full well it likely wasn’t.
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Tied and tucked it all away and now is a single fill.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 16, 2023, 06:16:44 PM
With that done and carpets cleaned by 6 I could put it together to move out.

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This little gem from Amazon saves me every time I take something apart.
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And with it all the weatherstrip and mouldings for the cab went back on.
Fenders and doors went on and out it went.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 16, 2023, 06:21:23 PM
Friday came and my buddy and boy came to move the bed into the tent and that shenanigans began.

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Friday night was just a pressure wash to get all the loose stuff out.
Saturday morning the scrapers and hammers went to work. It was so humid I had to put the fan blowing at the bed to dry it out.
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While it was drying I spent time stripping an old repair and paint around stone chips. Which there were many.
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Also stared cleaning the seam sealer and debris out of the inside.
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And by 2100 this was the result.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on July 16, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
Came out good. Was it worth the work vs a used bed?
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Post by: Sammconn on July 16, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
Came out good. Was it worth the work vs a used bed?
No.
It’s plain wore out.
It’s junk to be polite. Lol.

It will however make a few more trips around the sun now.

New bed is in the cards.
8 footer if I have my way…
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 17, 2023, 01:17:55 AM
I think you have made a fine dent in your list of todo’s on that ol girl!! Keep at it


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Atkinsmatt on July 17, 2023, 07:23:18 AM
When you finish that, about all that is left is new tires.  Great work.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 17, 2023, 07:59:57 AM
Matt…I have more tires than I care to admit, and a new set for the 17” wheels is in my shed.
Good Year Duratrac 285-70-17. I believe they are right at 33”, hence the Nor-cal tuck.

But last night after the big update got the raptor shot.

Was supposed to be colour matched. We shall see tonight, but, it looks just gray to me not silver birch.

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The cause for the pause…
Deer tenderloin and twice baked bacon and cheese spuds.

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Let it start to cure some and unmasked at about 22:00.
At 06:00 today it is still soft but has started to set up. This is stuff I bought I about 2018 so I was a bit concerned. It is also a beautiful 53* this morning so curing will be slow.

Today I’m out with a wood stove inspector after lunch to check the casa stove install then onto paint.
All goes well by 21:00 it will be curing.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Atkinsmatt on July 17, 2023, 08:17:19 AM
I have had a couple silver birch metalic vehicles.  Really like that color.  Both of those items pictured are a good excuse.
Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 19, 2023, 09:49:38 AM
I love the silver birch.
It always looks fairly clean.

Now with extra clear I’m waiting to see. Lol.

So the non update update is it was too cold Monday to paint. I painted yesterday afternoon and it’s done. Well the box is done.
It ain’t show car quality but it’s a 300+ mile truck that is worked. When I shot the primer the slight waves shows up. I could have stopped and fixed it but there is no value in wasting more time or money on this box. It’s old, I want a new 8 foot version, and I was short on time and as it turned out short in primer.

Monday was spent putting the cab back together.
I added more sound deadening into the back corners and cleaned and reassembled the plastics.
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Need to stick the flares on to hide this for the trip…

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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 19, 2023, 12:07:53 PM
Oh yeah. So I’m the middle of this paint job I need to address a couple things. 
One being an oil drip.
So into the oil pan I go.

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The PPE pan doesn’t come with a new o ring and says to lubricate when installing…

Well 50k later I’ve got a terrible drip that’s getting worse. So timing was critical as I needed an oil change. Didn’t need this in the middle of paint but gotta do it while it makes sense.

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You can see how wet it is in the outside where the connector plugs.
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The old one was still in one piece when I picked it out, but immediately broke when I pulled to bring it off. So dried out and dead it was.
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Surgically cleaned and ready to go back on.
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Because I needed the sequence.
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And back on. You can see the evidence in the muck of the leak. The rear main weeps every now and then but the oil level switch is 99% of the oil mess.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on July 19, 2023, 01:11:17 PM
I think mine is "puter" just a darker silver.

Was it the o ring?
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Post by: Sammconn on July 19, 2023, 03:18:10 PM
I think mine is "puter" just a darker silver.

Was it the o ring?
Yes the o-ring was failed/failing.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2023, 10:07:19 PM
Into the motor now...I knew it

Most extensive rocker rail and cab corner repair in history!
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 19, 2023, 10:29:05 PM
Into the motor now...I knew it

Most extensive rocker rail and cab corner repair in history!
Surely you understand the need to be thorough.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 19, 2023, 10:30:12 PM
Lol oh boy he’s got ya now!!! Read him the riot act now boss man!!!

New pistons and crank next


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 20, 2023, 07:16:28 AM
Sam you are getting so good at working on that Dmax, come to Texas this winter for a break from all that snow and ice and help me yank the motor on my LB7!


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Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 20, 2023, 09:39:23 AM
I’d love to Charles. Just don’t know if it could be in the cards or not.
Truthfully getting tired of the bodywork stuff. So wrenching for a couple hours was a nice change.

But onto reassembly.
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Inadvertently when I spun and dragged and flipped the box around I placed it tailgate away from the street. I suppose that was my ESPN working overtime for me.
It allowed me to back the truck up to the box in preparation for reconstitution of the pickup.

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I phoned a friend and placed an order for a couple sets of hands for a few minutes. And once they showed up, voila, box on, a few bolts in to secure it relatively to add the topper.
From there I could shift and realign everything.
Being the bed has eight well placed holes it was easy. The topper is secured with 4 x 1/2” bolts now so it was also easy.
Got on a roll and stopped taking pics for a bit and finished adding all the hard parts.
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Those front fenders are a harsh reminder of where I started and will soon be replaced with new.
Everthing back on the truck now.

For the record I have a bunch of extra parts currently. I kept stealing better stuff off the donor as I went, so with Amy luck they all belong there.
 
But done for this week as we’re heading south to sign papers for the retirement official casa.

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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2023, 09:57:53 AM
tell us about that samm
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 20, 2023, 10:03:45 AM
Lookin great!!!


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on July 20, 2023, 08:21:04 PM
tell us about that samm
Well, we have but our one son.
He and his wife have been sending pictures and listings non stop.
There is an ‘area’ they (being the whole lot of the in-laws, outlaws and the rest) want to be at, and visit regularly.
Not on water, which I’m ok with.
No waterfront taxes and issues.
About a one minute walk to the marina.
So close.
Family own the place next door.well you get the picture.
Shop is 30 x 42 plumbed for in floor heat, 12” ceiling.
And there’s a pretty red house that 6 liked.
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Post by: Nate on July 20, 2023, 09:51:19 PM
tell us about that samm
Well, we have but our one son.
He and his wife have been sending pictures and listings non stop.
There is an ‘area’ they (being the whole lot of the in-laws, outlaws and the rest) want to be at, and visit regularly.
Not on water, which I’m ok with.
No waterfront taxes and issues.
About a one minute walk to the marina.
So close.
Family own the place next door.well you get the picture.
Shop is 30 x 42 plumbed for in floor heat, 12” ceiling.
And there’s a pretty red house that 6 liked.

I pray it all works out for you and your family. I am sure you are going to miss your lake island place.
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Post by: Sammconn on July 21, 2023, 09:45:52 AM
Thanks Nate.
I’m not retired yet. Just positioning things to be ready. I hope to be within the next 5 years.

As for the island cabin, until I’m physically unable to do it we’ll be keeping it. It’s almost zero effort already so there should be some good years after retirement out there.

My boat is good for here, and I’ll probably be looking at a pontoon for the south. Not sure just yet and time will tell. The boat may just get miles on land as well.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on July 21, 2023, 10:15:09 AM
Lol oh boy he’s got ya now!!! Read him the riot act now boss man!!!

New pistons and crank next


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You're right!
Thing is
He hooked himself
Easy fish... ;-)
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 21, 2023, 10:19:55 AM
Thanks Nate.
I’m not retired yet. Just positioning things to be ready. I hope to be within the next 5 years.

As for the island cabin, until I’m physically unable to do it we’ll be keeping it. It’s almost zero effort already so there should be some good years after retirement out there.

My boat is good for here, and I’ll probably be looking at a pontoon for the south. Not sure just yet and time will tell. The boat may just get miles on land as well.


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This is both surprising and wonderful!
I'll be keen to follow this as you transition to the next season of your active life (In a few years)
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Post by: Sammconn on August 07, 2023, 11:08:30 PM
Ok
Oil pan holds oil again. That’s a win.
The stone chips have made my fender flare decision an easy one.
I need the protection.

Got a pretty new box of parts that will show up in the near futire.

We took possession of the retirement vllla and spent the week out there.
Was mid 90’s most of the week and I was totally fine with Netflix and AC.
I’d just spent the previous two weeks running ragged.

Tonight pulled the hood and sanded all the stone chips out.
Tomorrow should be back at the paint if temps are up enough.
Was 50 this morning…I’m not ready for fall yet.

With any luck my plan is to be down to doors by the weekend.
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Post by: Sammconn on August 10, 2023, 07:57:35 PM
Between coats of clear right now.

I unboxed my new front fenders and broke out the angle grinder and welder.
Yeah not how one thinks new parts go.

But had to finish the Nor-cal tuck.
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No other pics as it’s cut bend weld.
Oh and hope it still fits…

On to prep for paint.
This pic shows the about 3/4” I removed forward of the mount bolt hole.

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Bottoms/insides primed.

Hood gets flipped as paint went on.
Jury is still out if I have enough to finish.
It’ll be some close.

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Some clear on all sides now. Hood is propped up to get edges underneath.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on August 10, 2023, 10:44:50 PM
Ok so primer paint and clear.
All lots of the above.

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They are all shiny and reflective and nice like now.
Tomorrow I’m back to lake to see the boss for supper. Probably stay and visit for the night.

Saturday I’ll be back into the thing.

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Got to get to here… and back to reassembled.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on August 11, 2023, 12:21:19 AM
Turbo too? Just got me a spare to rebuild, 250k and doing OK. Figure a good cleaning, good kit and a new billet wheel.
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 11, 2023, 07:06:49 AM
Sam that just about qualifies as an oil change


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2023, 09:59:36 AM
Sam that just about qualifies as an oil change


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Naw, Tex, trumpin' ya here
This is for sure an oil change.
Rust repair in the truck box seems to have migrated all over
Interior was out
Body torn down to a shell
New parts all over
We got into the engine
And doin' it again with a turbo...
Comprehensive rust repair does not cover it, so...Oil change it is!
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Post by: Sammconn on August 11, 2023, 10:03:19 AM
Turbo too? Just got me a spare to rebuild, 250k and doing OK. Figure a good cleaning, good kit and a new billet wheel.

JR, I put a rebuild kit into my now failing nearly 350K turbo about 50k ago.
The motor never burned any oil prior, and has had the burnt oil aroma, as well as a quart every 3000 miles gone now.
I'm burning tons of oil, making 5 psi less boost, black smoke to the wazoo...etc.
All the signs of dead turbo.
As well, it sits DOA for a while (Depending on ambient up to a minute) before you hear the turbo spin up.
Sits zero boost while driving as well until it frees up.

So, stroke the cheque for a new OEM, not reman and I'll be good for another 300K.
Thats how I'm viewing it anyway.

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Post by: Flyin6 on August 11, 2023, 10:03:59 AM
Sam, you ever build a small home from start to finish in a single summer?
Learn to fly over a weekend?
Get a Ph.D. online over the Christmas vacation?
Get engaged/married/father children/ raise them and send them off to college in your spare time?
Solve Canada's political problems over lunch?
(One of the above is impossible)
;-)
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Post by: Sammconn on August 11, 2023, 10:06:08 AM
Sam that just about qualifies as an oil change


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Naw, Tex, trumpin' ya here
This is for sure an oil change.
Rust repair in the truck box seems to have migrated all over
Interior was out
Body torn down to a shell
New parts all over
We got into the engine
And doin' it again with a turbo...
Comprehensive rust repair does not cover it, so...Oil change it is!

Yeah, ya guys got me there, I think.
The 'oil change' actually did occur...lol, but yeah, guilty...
 :popcorn:
And I'm probably not done yet...this is a forever truck for me, so updates and maintenance we need.
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Post by: Sammconn on August 11, 2023, 10:08:45 AM
Sam, you ever build a small home from start to finish in a single summer?
Learn to fly over a weekend?
Get a Ph.D. online over the Christmas vacation?
Get engaged/married/father children/ raise them and send them off to college in your spare time?
Solve Canada's political problems over lunch?
(One of the above is impossible)
;-)

That one is impossible... :laugh:
The rest....while some are unlikely...challenge accepted? Is that the right response...???  :grin:
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 12, 2023, 01:44:51 PM
Sam that just about qualifies as an oil change


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Naw, Tex, trumpin' ya here
This is for sure an oil change.
Rust repair in the truck box seems to have migrated all over
Interior was out
Body torn down to a shell
New parts all over
We got into the engine
And doin' it again with a turbo...
Comprehensive rust repair does not cover it, so...Oil change it is!
Didn’t he swap the motor out previous from a donor truck?


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on August 12, 2023, 07:14:54 PM
I think so.
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Post by: Sammconn on August 12, 2023, 09:20:46 PM
Yes donor provided the transplant.

Chief. How in the devil do you undo the turbo/up-pipe bolts?
Dang they’re redonculous.

Busted one bolt off in the passenger manifold.
Heated and thought it was turning. Nope.
At least it unbolted from the head.
Drilled, extracted and threads chased.

Now, I screwed up and didn’t order the gaskets for the coolant banjo bolts.
And ain’t no way I”mma gonna try to reuse.
Just too plain hard to get to if it leaks…
Decision time weather to put it all back together, we head south this week again.
Might take the Equinox, but it’s always soooooo tight on space.
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Post by: JR on August 12, 2023, 11:02:52 PM
Sam, those bolts are a bare in a good climate. I think up there you add to that. I have not done mine yet, but read so many times how hard it is.
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 15, 2023, 03:54:26 PM
Concur...Up pipe bolts at the turbo inlet are the worse you will ever encounter, anywhere.
To defeat that system, I purchased a lower pedestal and bolted that in. Bolts easily accessible from above, then bolted the non-stock turbo down onto that fixture.
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Post by: Sammconn on August 16, 2023, 04:35:42 PM
Chief, I’m staying stock with my turbo so I’ll be fighting it all back in.
Thankfully the actual applied torque isn’t significant. Getting the bolts out. Well those of us that know been there. I’ll get them.

So. Truck is back together again.
Not done and will need to come apart again.
I’m good with this.

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When this pile of parts turned into the lack of all needed it gave me some much needed R&R.

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This little gem, one of my 7 prime rib roast steaks became supper.

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This, got reassembled.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 17, 2023, 12:42:15 AM
Fantastic progress! 


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on August 30, 2023, 09:37:20 PM
So. Some more progress.
I’ve been fighting these dag gone bolts.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230831/39b18324bf425491d5be825628c1a25f.jpg)

They are not fun.
Google said through the passenger wheel well.
Google was roght for four of them.

Took me and two buddies for one of the last two.
And two of us for the sixth.
Up pipe off.

Turbo bolts out.
Now searching for an E-torx to get the oil drain studs out of my way…


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on August 31, 2023, 07:46:17 PM
Didn't break any? great
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 31, 2023, 10:06:53 PM
Really great


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2023, 02:08:40 PM
Didn't break any? great
Not this round…
The first attempt when I didn’t have all the gaskets one broke in the exhaust manifold. It was a real treat.
These bolts are 14.8 grade I think. Drill like diamond…

Didn’t matter if any on the turbo broke as I had a brand new one to replace it. Frankly would have been easier if they did break. Lol.


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Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2023, 02:16:04 PM
So…google said go through passenger wheel well.
Off came tire and all sorts of room for activities showed up.

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With the room to crawl in created I reached in under and lo amd behold the bolts started coming out.
Four of them quite “easily” compared to the last two.
As I mentioned o had to recruit help. The last two yielded amd by about 22:30 a couple nights ago tje turbo was out.

That wasn’t without headache as well. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230901/0b40a263ccd0bd021f86db16b6ee6340.jpg)
The three big bolts are tight. Unlike the mani bolts at 38 ft/lbs and take a small crane to loosen, these are at 80 and really need a good tug.

With all the main hardware out and lines disconnected the oil drain nuts was all that was left. Or so I thought.
With the driver up pipe still installed the drain won’t clear the studs the oil line mounts on. So out came the studs. But I don’t have any E-torx, and have been lucky up till now to get with a 12 point 5.5 mm(I think).
No go on far one. Found and borrowed a 7/32” spline socket. MONEY!
And out came the old turbo.
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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2023, 02:23:48 PM
With new vigor, I attacked this thing again last night.

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Cleared the corner of my make shift work bench for the new turbo and began swapping lines over.
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One by one old off new gasket and on it went.
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Ready for installation.
A bit of a pain as well.

Now with no studs on place it was a small feat to align the turbo, oil return line, gasket, and bolt holes.

After probably the better part of an hour I recruited hands again. Even with six hands it was tough.
Just no way to see, other than two phones amd face time. So working blind by feel we got it in.

All bolted down and up pipe back installed.

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It’s a long weekend for us this week and I’m going to try to spend it at the lake as I’ve not done that this summer much.
I recon about 4-5 hours to button up the engine bay and swap over to the new front fenders.

And for the p-nut gallery wondering…
The old turbo had at least 1/8” radial play on the turbine wheel. Had to be close to hitting the housing.  This likely cures all my ailments.

Oh, and that $;(& oil level switch is leaking again.
Time to order a Chevy o-ring…


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on September 01, 2023, 05:16:18 PM
I can see why people pull the cab.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2023, 10:16:20 PM
I can see why people pull the cab.
The Chevy book says to remove the trans.
Not even kidding.

I’m not sure if pulling the motor wouldn’t have been easier. It would have taken a bit more time I think.

At least Thai is an LBZ…
It has hundreds more room than the newer ones.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 01, 2023, 10:25:23 PM
So tonight I took 6 to the lake and came back home.
Trying to get this all in the bag.

I finished up all the remaking connections on the engine and turbo.
Filled the oil supply hole a few times to pre lube the bearings.
Then transferred the fender stuff to the drivers fender amd installed.

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No more rust. Fit was about 95% so not bad for knock of parts. Got fuse box remounted and all the fender jazz bolted up.

Then moved to the passenger side.

Prior to anything I had to replace the antenna cable.
It all broke when removing it way back.

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It’s a real treat.

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It goes through here.
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Into the glove box area. Chevy also says to remove the dash for this job. Stupid tech manuals…

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Fished through first shot nice and easy.
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All buttoned up and good to go.
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Next up installed passenger fender.
It was about 85% but it’s rust free now too.
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I 100% nailed the nor cal tuck.
For not even fitting up the fenders I was just under 1/4” space so should have the clearance needed for the new tires.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Bigdave_185 on September 01, 2023, 11:40:44 PM
BRAVO my good Man!! BRAVO!


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on September 02, 2023, 12:59:38 AM
Looks good, is that the bumper you built?

When I had my trans done there was so much room up there. I think trans or cab is easier than the motor.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 11, 2023, 10:12:13 PM
Looks good, is that the bumper you built?

When I had my trans done there was so much room up there. I think trans or cab is easier than the motor.
Yes that’s the bumper I built.
It needs to come off now too for a refresh.

I think can and fenders easier than trans.
Motor isn’t that bad.
I don’t have a lift and all the fancy shop stuff so motor easier for me.
Made the mistake of removing trans and t-case when I pulled donor motor.
A real pain on the ground to lift and shift around.

Hmmm….and there are days I wonder why this or that hurts….


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 11, 2023, 10:17:01 PM
So been a bit bit back at it sort of tonight.

I picked up a new kit of colour match raptor last time I was south.

Had to make space on my garage as temps are failing now. Has a hard frost this morning.

No before pics. Washed, sanded, degreased.

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Three coats, cause one bottle wasn’t enough so the second got used up.
Pulled tape while I still could.

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Nice clean lines. Colour seems better matched this kit. Will know more once it’s all assembled and on the truck.

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Even though the flares caused some of my rust damage, the protection they offer beats not having them.
I couldn’t believe the rocks I was throwing at my windshield and whole truck. So yeah, they going back on.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on September 12, 2023, 08:41:29 AM
The conditions you live/drive in up there are probably the most severe of any member on this site. Seems more like a military proving ground to me, and I had two of them nearby where I grew up.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 12, 2023, 10:43:05 AM
The conditions you live/drive in up there are probably the most severe of any member on this site. Seems more like a military proving ground to me, and I had two of them nearby where I grew up.
It’s definitely hard on stuff for sure.
This truck has very much treated me well.

In fact the POR15 is chipped in places already.
I’ll be spot addressing some of it and leaving some as it’s a never ending battle for me.

Once I confirm a better colour match I’ll be doing the rockers and maybe a bit more outside flare territory. Unsure as I only have 2 bottles left and I seem to put it on thick. Lol.

I also have the ugly as all get up running boards on the other truck.
Frankly I don’t really care how ugly they are.
HH6 is struggling since keeping the rear at a proper height to get in.
So they will go in as well.
This adds more stone protection as an added bonus.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on September 12, 2023, 07:28:30 PM
Maybe bed liner over the por15 as a cushion? Por is a coating not really made for abuse.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Flyin6 on September 13, 2023, 08:01:34 AM
Maybe bed liner over the por15 as a cushion? Por is a coating not really made for abuse.
X2
Was kinda thinking the same thing. POR15=Rust encapsulation, whereas, Bed Liner materials=Protective/impact resistant surfaces protecting a substrate.

Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 13, 2023, 11:48:12 AM
Maybe bed liner over the por15 as a cushion? Por is a coating not really made for abuse.
X2
Was kinda thinking the same thing. POR15=Rust encapsulation, whereas, Bed Liner materials=Protective/impact resistant surfaces protecting a substrate.
May have to. But won’t be this year now likely.
Time will tell but I don’t see her coming off soon.
Title: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 14, 2023, 12:23:16 PM
Well, been busy with too much.

Just started a big upgrade project at work Monday. This is almost in the coast phase for me now.

Been milling cedar to make chairs. Cedar came from huge 80-100 foot power poles. Buddy got them. I helped him mill some of it for boards and scrap. Into the scrap slabs and getting lots of 1X out of it.

Picking and packing stuff to move south to the retirement villa.

Oh yeah, and this darned truck…

No wonder I’m wore flat out some days.

Anyhow. Got to the tailgate assembling a couple nights ago.

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All new GM original parts for latches and handle this time.
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Did the 80 dollar or whatever kit from Rock Auto and it’s done after only a couple years. As in the gate randomly falls open and is a giant pain to get latched.

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Had some sticking issues so hopefully 48 hrs in clamps will fix that.
I’m re-using a real beat gate cap as I didn’t feel 1k to ship a new one was on the realm of reasonable.
So I think there may have still been some degreaser or old tape residue. Tape stuck like crazy to the new paint.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 18, 2023, 10:39:07 AM
So my next distraction was a bent 6000# axle on my trailer.
Brought it out to work as my driveway is still overloaded.
Here is what’s left of the u-bolts after a few miles. Not sure how many 10-15k I’d wager. The gravel roads just eat ‘em up.
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And with a proper weld shop you can easy button the spring pads. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230918/39a43ebc880344e4d67f013d611908ca.jpg)
Slid back in and a bearing repack and brake reinstall.
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A couple trips ago I found the short in my wiring.
It lived inside the trailer junction box. Hidden by a total coating of calcium infused road dust and rainwater.
Here is the transfer to a new box.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 18, 2023, 10:43:09 AM
Oh yeah.
Here’s me DOR’ing my own thread.

The roots run deep I suppose.

Back to the truck.

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New gate installed.
It latches the first try now. And didn’t fall open either.
It seems I forgot to take pics of the rear flares so I’ll get there eventually.

They are on. Tailgate used up 11 odd feet of two sided tape destined for the flares. Functioning gate over flares. I can get more tape next trip out.

Tore the 80’s running boards off the donor.
They’ll save some stone chips.

More to come.


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Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: JR on September 18, 2023, 11:05:51 AM
That rear bumper looks nasty. Seems you never run out of repair work.
Title: Re: 2006-7 LBZ Rebuild-Motor, Trans, and[emoji47]
Post by: Sammconn on September 18, 2023, 11:54:04 AM
Time and stone chips have got the best of both of them.
2016 I built the rear.
Loads of miles with trailer.

But yes, on the list to redo too…as is the front.
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