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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #950 on: April 17, 2021, 11:08:34 PM »
^^^ All that dirt and mud was from a single trip down to the farm!

So starting with the supplied axle. I cut the factory shock mounts and rotated them about 90 degrees to keep the shock bottoms from hanging down to snag rocks on trails.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #951 on: April 17, 2021, 11:11:36 PM »
Concurrently I fabbed up a new double shear panhard bar mount and welded that all onto the axle
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #952 on: April 17, 2021, 11:13:12 PM »
I cleaned it all up with a flap wheel and a bunch of brake cleaner, then gave it some wet coats of self etching primer
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #953 on: April 17, 2021, 11:16:17 PM »
I have new backing plates/dust shields being coated, so I tossed the bent up old ones after stripping the axle and brakes and hubs. Then I cleaned all the remaining parts and coated them with the same primer

The front diff is patiently waiting...
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #954 on: April 18, 2021, 04:12:55 AM »
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #955 on: April 18, 2021, 09:44:42 PM »
14 bolt all epoxied up

The rest of the parts should be out of the coater shop this week

Will likely pull old axle and get the new one at least strapped to the springs while I wait

But then again, we start building a barn tomorrow...
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #956 on: April 18, 2021, 10:25:09 PM »
Ordered some parts as well.

First of all, when I pulled it apart to send to powder-coat, I noticed the inside of the left tire had a scuff mark where it had contacted the air bag enough to wipe off the dust. I am theorizing that the truck suspension was flexing causing the air bladder to expand enough to just touch the sidewall of those 37's

I ordered a couple 1/2" spacers to alleviate that little issue

The second thing is something I have been wanting to do forever, and that is get rid of that rear fuel tank

As you may or may not know some Suburban's have dual tanks, a 26 gallon main tank and an eleven gallon aux tank sitting above the spare tire.

I just ordered a factory 1999 Suburban 2500, 42 gallon rear tank. The front factory tank is 26 gallons so that will increase total fuel capacity from 37 gallons all the way up to 68 gallons.

Thinking I can squeak 13 MPG out of it, I'd have a safe cruising range of 830 miles while retaining a 50 mile reserve.

I ordered a galvanized tank with straps and hardware

We will soon know the truth/if it will fit
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #957 on: April 18, 2021, 10:53:19 PM »
You'll need a pump to, doubt you can switch them unless its a deep aux tank. Did you look at skid plates?
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #958 on: April 19, 2021, 05:25:10 PM »
You'll need a pump to, doubt you can switch them unless its a deep aux tank. Did you look at skid plates?
Right now, JR, I don't have a clue what will fit and what won't

I hope to reuse as much stock stuff as is possible and just "Make it all work."

I plan to find a sheet of Aluminum to use as a skid plate. I did buy the tank hangers, and this tank was engineered to fit in the 1999 which has very similar if not the same architecture as the GMT 800 Burb I own.

One was or another, we will soon know if it is possible.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #959 on: April 19, 2021, 05:55:49 PM »
Probably is, just get a pump for that vs the 20 year old pump in there. I was really happy in having a access hole for mine in the floor, maybe just "mark" the floor where it is, just in case?

For the skidplate, why fab when a factory unit will bolt right in and probably cost less than just the alum sheet?

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #960 on: April 19, 2021, 05:57:23 PM »
Probably is, just get a pump for that vs the 20 year old pump in there. I was really happy in having a access hole for mine in the floor, maybe just "mark" the floor where it is, just in case?

For the skidplate, why fab when a factory unit will bolt right in and probably cost less than just the alum sheet?

Back to the barn now!!
I didn't see a factory skid plate anywhere. Have to look harder
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #961 on: April 19, 2021, 06:37:16 PM »
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #962 on: April 20, 2021, 10:15:59 PM »
Still nugging it out and moving forward with all the stuff I have to do on this truck.

I got the huge and super heavy Dana80 out of the truck to make way for the lighter 14 bolt. Looking at them on the floor, I can see 100 or more pounds of hog that my truck will be losing with this swap.

I cleaned everything up including the muddy burb undercarriage prior to wrenching
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #963 on: April 20, 2021, 10:16:51 PM »
I had to pick up another set of Jack Stands. This time I opted for the autozone store brand
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #964 on: April 20, 2021, 10:18:28 PM »
Everything was degreased, sanded, solvent cleaned, then coated with self etching primer that a select top coat product to help prevent corrosion.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #965 on: April 21, 2021, 07:33:01 PM »
Back at it today. Freakish snow storm killed off the barn building for the day, so I picked up the pieces and continued on the Suburban.

The old D80 is one massive axle. Looking at it beside the 14 bolt FF axle, I can see that single piece was in part responsible for lackluster acceleration. It must weigh 100-150 lbs more than the 14 bolt. Such beef!
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #966 on: April 21, 2021, 07:34:41 PM »
The 14 bolt went in pretty easy, and is now all tightened up in place
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #967 on: April 21, 2021, 07:36:39 PM »
Powder coater is still not ready with the parts, so we still wait on those things. I had to lower the upper shock mounts and position them a little differently, but with that done. I started mounting things like the brake lines, and the emergency brake cables.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #968 on: April 21, 2021, 07:37:45 PM »
First thing in the morning, the driveshaft goes back up to Cincinnati Driveline to get lengthened. It is easily 2" too short

Shucks!
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #969 on: April 21, 2021, 08:06:40 PM »
I've heard the 14bt is as strong if not stronger than the 11.5aam. The pinion bearing has a lot to do with it.

Just like I think the 14bt semi is underated some. For now that will sit under the sub with a corp 10 in front.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #970 on: April 22, 2021, 11:40:59 AM »
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #971 on: April 22, 2021, 01:13:50 PM »
You seem to like to just "leave" things laying around, don't you?

Bad man!

I have mused over the idea of building a high speed tracked vehicle for years now. Played around with the concept in my mind over and over. Would be cool to start putting it together

Some things I have not been able to solve is the final differentiating transmission to use for steering. That's a different animal. Or use hydraulic wheel motors...

Then there's the track. Who makes one big enough to support a 10,000 lb vehicle

Power: Easy, I think. Built Duramax with a five speed or some sort of transmission to give you variable speeds to the final drives if you didn't just opt for a wheel motor setup.

Dunno, would be fun...
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #972 on: April 22, 2021, 01:19:14 PM »
Something like this?  :grin:

https://newatlas.com/howe-and-howe-unveils-ripsaw-ev-2-tracked-off-road-vehicle/37706/

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #973 on: April 22, 2021, 02:04:08 PM »
Just like buying another poll barn and it has room in back!
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« Reply #974 on: April 22, 2021, 03:54:56 PM »
I’ll just leave this here

https://www.rezvanimotors.com/rezvani-hercules-6x6-military-edition#hercules-6x6-military-edition-features


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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #975 on: April 22, 2021, 08:34:40 PM »
Well, shoot, the Ebay gas tank seller just cancelled my order...and that's the good news!

Bad news is that he charged me $216 for the tank and only refunded $167

Biden math???

I'll take this as a warning of sorts. Maybe trying to fit the gas tank before the trip to WY is a mistake, so I'll just skip this for now and reboot after the travelling is all done.

It is getting to be a time crunch again, just getting all the parts in to finish the 4.56 swap is challenging. Now I have a wait for the driveshaft to be stretched.

With the camper still needing a few things and the barn going up, my son going off to join the Armee, a week long trip to FL and who knows who's birthday party in this ever increasing family of mine, I may well already be out of time.

So I'll just double down on the things I have to get done.

Did I mentioned the turbo and supercharged LS stroker engine installation that is upcoming???
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« Reply #976 on: April 22, 2021, 09:27:29 PM »
Got my tank from Summit, fast shipping too!

Dmax it for gosh sakes!
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« Reply #977 on: April 23, 2021, 09:43:58 PM »
Picked up the powder coated suspension and rear axle parts today. Shop has some cool stuff sitting around. Check out the wrapped Mustang made to look old and rusty:
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« Reply #978 on: April 23, 2021, 09:45:05 PM »
Each part came back wrapped with loads of plastic to protect it
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #979 on: April 23, 2021, 09:46:22 PM »
I really like how my wheels turned out. Understated, high tech, low sheen. Less is definitely more!
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« Reply #980 on: April 23, 2021, 09:47:55 PM »
Shawn's rear diff cover is outstanding in this color scheme, as are the other suspension parts.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #981 on: April 23, 2021, 09:49:19 PM »
I guess I missed a spot last time I pressure-washed the undercarriage to get rid of farm mud!
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« Reply #982 on: April 23, 2021, 10:13:17 PM »
I did my whole suspension years ago in that hammered grey.  I like it, 


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« Reply #983 on: April 23, 2021, 11:58:49 PM »
That the baby tank above the old spare spot?
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« Reply #984 on: April 24, 2021, 11:32:28 AM »
Good looking color
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« Reply #985 on: April 24, 2021, 11:51:03 AM »
That the baby tank above the old spare spot?
yessir, all 11 gallons of it
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #986 on: April 24, 2021, 11:58:53 AM »
I do like the rim colour choice.
And now the diff cover is the best “painted” part. Lol.
Looks real good.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #987 on: April 26, 2021, 08:51:46 PM »
Getting more reassembled. This new axle housing is fighting me. Not the same dimensions as the old D80 so I am having to "adjust" things to fit the new configuration.
But, having to quit around 1730 because of a fire dept. board meeting, it looks like this at the moment
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« Reply #988 on: April 26, 2021, 08:55:27 PM »
I really simplified the rear sway bar mounting allowing me to can the added cross member I added just for it. Now I have a simple steel "U" that bolts directly to the frame rail that connects to the sway bar link.

I did that so that I would have room to add in that 42 gal aux tank. But it did cause me to have to tilt the links from the verticle, which should not hurt, but not as ideal as straight up/down.

I plan to bend all four ears inboard to help with alignment
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« Reply #989 on: April 26, 2021, 08:56:33 PM »
Nossir, not as close as it appears!
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« Reply #990 on: April 26, 2021, 08:58:35 PM »
Sway bar links now clear of future fuel tank real estate

And brake lines all secured and clearanced
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #991 on: April 26, 2021, 09:21:18 PM »
Why are the vertical links on that sway bar so much wider then the sway bar?  I know you didn’t build the sway bar,   


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« Reply #992 on: April 26, 2021, 09:35:28 PM »
Why are the vertical links on that sway bar so much wider then the sway bar?  I know you didn’t build the sway bar,   


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« Reply #993 on: April 26, 2021, 11:07:52 PM »
. Pretty much unbreakable.
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #994 on: April 26, 2021, 11:46:37 PM »
Didn't remember the panhard bar so long ago. Doesn't it just push the springs side to side?

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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #995 on: April 27, 2021, 10:52:13 AM »
Didn't remember the panhard bar so long ago. Doesn't it just push the springs side to side?


If it's level there is not enough suspension travel to cause it to do much side to side at all. I recall watching old 60's "G" bodies with jacked up air shocks hitting a bump and waddling side to side. This is nothing like that, and a great counter to a roof mounted tent.
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« Reply #996 on: April 27, 2021, 11:04:01 AM »
Hey, don't pick on my el camino!
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« Reply #997 on: April 27, 2021, 11:50:46 AM »
Hey, don't pick on my el camino!
Yea, that's one!
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« Reply #998 on: April 27, 2021, 01:38:05 PM »
I had an 88 Monte Carlo that we swapped a Richmond 5speed back in the day, think they called that the g-body shuffle
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Re: Topic: 2002 Suburban 2500 build thread, Part 4
« Reply #999 on: April 30, 2021, 09:34:14 PM »
Right side pretty much done
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