Post by: Flyin6 on March 11, 2016, 09:30:15 PM
So that part doesn't get impossibly long, I'm starting with part 2.
So with the shed freshly completed, I am ready to start transporting all manner of widgets, tools, peices/parts and whatcha-ma-call-its.
So I'll need storage and a work area. So with that in mind, first up is the construction of two simple work benches.
Starting with these stacks of lumber:
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 11, 2016, 09:40:27 PM
Next the tops went on, same technique...Glue, drill, screw the thing together
Post by: Flyin6 on March 11, 2016, 09:43:41 PM
Afterward the tables were as if they were one piece...no movement.
And just to test it, while I was working on the next project, one of my mid sized rangers came flying in the shop and hopped up on the table. It didn't even wobble!
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I am still using my circa 1940 carpenters square to mark it out
Post by: Flyin6 on March 11, 2016, 09:52:28 PM
It went together snugly and held a good square
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It is by no means completed. Nossir, there is plenty of sawdust yet to embed in my aging ear canals before I'll called this donkey whipped, so stay tuned, or don't, but I'll finish it anyway!
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Nice workThank ya
Post by: Dawg25385 on March 12, 2016, 12:53:11 AM
Oh and those star bits are all I buy now. So much better than Phillips or square drive.
Grip Rite even started making them I noticed
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I just have one word to say. Torx.
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Post by: Nate on March 12, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
tomatoe / tomato
to / too / two
their / there / they're
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2016, 09:32:44 PM
Nice construction there Don! I'll speculate that the shelves get a longitudinal edge front and back and angular bracing on the ends?Close!
Full plywood sides and longitucinal shelf "Lips" in the front
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Which does the most damage?
Post by: Flyin6 on March 12, 2016, 09:41:01 PM
Subject Shed floor
Wife said we were going to the farm, so I sez to meself, we're going to the farm!
Anyhow I'll be putting things all over the place down there in a shinny minute, so I thought I'd put something on the floor beforestarting.
After thinking about it for awhile, I thought I'd experiment and lay down some floor epoxy and see how that works on plywood. My reasining: Wood has many pores so the stuff ought to stick, right? Secondly softwood based plywood is, well, soft. Epoxy on top would be like adding a huge callouse to the whole thing. Toughen it up like when you start doing man work and you know you're a paper pusher or switch switcher (like me!)
So I'll be using a prepackaged 2.5 car garage system designed for concrete
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If not, then a second kit is $109 minus my SLOWES 10 military guy discount, I'm slidin in home plate for just under a C note
Still have a big obnoxious pile of trash to burn!
Post by: stlaser on March 12, 2016, 09:50:39 PM
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Looks like it worked pretty good. You gonna try a 2nd coat or is it GTG?I'll be down there sometime next week to make that determination. It looks thin but after drying, who knows
One thing about this Hide Site "Build" I am shooting for the lowest cost. I want to recycle things, and get essential things done in a "makes sense" sort of way.
Case in point is the Cistern. I got to looking at it and ya know, by golly, I might be able to reuse it. I could pump it out then pressure blast the livin' snot out of it. THen patch up cracks if they're are any, then coat it with cistern paint and plug that sucker right back in!
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Found a use for that jug of DDT finally!
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That's his tobacco barn falling apart
Past that. 2nd and 3rd treelines.
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2016, 08:37:51 AM
Copy, good eyes. How many acres Don say he had again 100?91 right now
Eyeballin' 160 more...
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2016, 04:25:00 PM
looks nice, but I would be worried about it peeling?Dunno Nate, call this a calculated test with a hopeful owner.
Epoxy is epoxy, so that shouldn't matter or change any.
As far as adhesion, you have to wonder, since it is designed to adhere to bare concrete which is pretty smooth, if it might not work even mo-better on wood since wood is mucho mo-porous!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 13, 2016, 09:36:10 PM
Getting right back at it, next up is the creation of the work bench center section to give me a full 12 foot table.
The first thing I built was some doubled up jack studs which will act as a secure rest for the table section
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Next I screwed and glued (S' n G for now on) sides made from 3.4" plywood just to ensure moving this thing around gives me a proper hernia!
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Post by: Dawg25385 on March 14, 2016, 11:06:17 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 14, 2016, 11:12:47 AM
You going through that much effort, you should have a biscuit joiner....I should indeed...
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 14, 2016, 11:14:25 AM
Those cabinets look really good donWhich brings up the question (And follow on discussion), Kyle...Should I plant them like they are or paint them up?
Wife says plain. But then again all she can think of right now, is who gets the rose tonight!
Post by: KensAuto on March 14, 2016, 11:23:37 AM
It's a simple door design...
Brother, you don't do anything "simple"!
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I know...It's a simple door design...
Brother, you don't do anything "simple"!
Sometimes a bit of a problem...
Post by: Flyin6 on March 14, 2016, 11:28:48 AM
Here's my 1957 Model GW Dewalt Radial Arm saw
In the past I think I said it was a 1945 unit, but I was mistaken, I stand corrected.
So it was in a production cabinet shop (My Uncle's) for all of his working life.
It still runs, but the rubber insulation is questionable after almost 60 years.
I am thinking of having the motor reconditioned and hauling it down to the farm to use there. Thing is, the DeWalt 12" chop saw I have now is much better and quicker. Do I take the new one or the seasoned one down there?
Post by: KensAuto on March 14, 2016, 11:41:49 AM
I think I would take the new one to the farm, with the amount of work you have, it might be more efficient.
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Post by: cudakidd53 on March 14, 2016, 01:12:58 PM
As far as keeping out the critters, with the doors off the floor that much and an opened back, they'll squeeze in there if the have a reason to! For some reason, mice like to pee on stuff humans don't want to rust......probably their method of protesting the invention of De-Con......
Post by: Dawg25385 on March 14, 2016, 02:05:23 PM
Those cabinets look really good donWhich brings up the question (And follow on discussion), Kyle...Should I plant them like they are or paint them up?
Wife says plain. But then again all she can think of right now, is who gets the rose tonight!
My opinion is to either stain and seal, or just seal... not paint. You bought nice pine and nice plywood... don't cover it up.
I would take a more compact mitre saw out there... Those radial arm saws are nice, and incredibly precise, but you probably don't need that level of precision cutting on the farm, and it will eat up space (and risk getting stolen). Resto it and run it in your basement, where you can enjoy it and not fear that it'd get stolen.
BTW until this year, i ran a DeWalt 10" mitre saw i got at a garage sale for $10 bucks... it was blue, probably from the 70's. Still running like a champ when i gave it to my Aunt when i upgraded to a 10" sliding compound. They don't make em like they used to...
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 14, 2016, 06:37:12 PM
So today, first up I built the other door and hung it
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Trim begat trim
Meaning, simply, if you start with trim, the process never stops...is never finished!
I started trimming out the upright storage cabinet:
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Not satisified with that simple bevel cut, I rounded the thing off.
Much better(er)
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I had planned to repair the Bush Hog drive shaft, but it was Spaghetti-Thirty and the pre-Rangers were making unusual noises, so I abandoned my project driven bliss and became "Domestic-Man"
...And made some Spaghetti
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...they're lags!
Looks great Don!
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2016, 08:16:38 AM
Just for reference non of our fine furniture has exposed dry wall screws thru the trim pieces. Not that I technically own any fine furniture as that is impossible with three kids......It's the new style.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2016, 08:17:57 AM
A Hillary fan would know a screwing I guess......Now...You two...
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A Hillary fan would know a screwing I guess......Now...You two...
Looks like my kids this AM,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: TexasRedNeck on March 15, 2016, 03:05:57 PM
I have a biscuit joint machine and I use it more than I ever expected. Those bicuits swell up tight when glued and make a monster strong joint.
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 15, 2016, 04:06:20 PM
Well you already did it but I was going to say just oil the cabinet. I like the way that looks.
I have a biscuit joint machine and I use it more than I ever expected. Those bicuits swell up tight when glued and make a monster strong joint.
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OK, good enough!
I'll go pick one up. I have so many build projects coming up, I'll certainly benefit from one
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I don't think a jointer would be appropriate for 2x4 and plywood shelving and tables. If you are going to start making some cabinets out of hardwood lumber and are thinking about not leaving the drywall screws exposed in the trim work then a jointer works great for some wicked strong joints.There isn't going to be a lot of finish work in the shed or future cabin down there.
I once built a timber frame house in Tennessee. I just trimmed it out in rough sawn western cedar. Then nailed the pieces in place for a rustic look. Worked well.
This shed will very likely be trimmed out in barn wood off the old barn, a chicken coop and whatever else I find on my land (Which is not completely explored yet!) Trim like that begs for nail heads or screw heads showing.
And this is a bug out site meant to sustain life, albeit a frontier style life, not the suburban setting thing.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 16, 2016, 06:12:14 PM
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Anyone!??
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2016, 03:53:44 PM
So I fixed it!
Yup, pulled the offending parts apart, straightened (Sort-of) the big end and replaced the junked up skinny piece
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But J-D made the thing with a roll pin...imagine that!
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If you look hard you can see the difference between the bad and good shafts!
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The trailer, btw, is being loaded for upcoming farm operations
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Actually after spending the night in the camper with the pre-rangers, I thought of renaming the place Night-Stinker!"
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Here are the 16 sheets of 2/4 T&G plywood for the second floor which were stacked outside but had to migrate inside
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I'm looking for something roughly 3%-4% of what Norm stores in one of his barns!
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Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2016, 04:11:00 PM
We did spend the night there, and except for two competing packs of Coyotes howlin' up a storm, it was pretty peaceful out there.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2016, 04:12:30 PM
Looks great. Are you going to be treating the inside of the shed with anything? At one point I read reclaimed barn wood for the inside decor. Insulation type?Nothing here in the "Shop Room" but inside the walled off room to come and the upstairs, I'll insulate it and probably use the barn wood to create an insect laden environment!
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Post by: stlaser on March 19, 2016, 04:15:44 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 19, 2016, 06:14:51 PM
That bottom pic looks like a whole mess of trouble headed your way in the near future!Good thing is we die finally and go on to heaven!
They age good young men. Say yes sir, no mam. Open doors for ladies. No harsh language, yada-yada. They will rebel, likely, but teach them in the ways of the Lord, and in time, they will return. This farm is theirs someday, so I'm running up their sweat-equity accounts big time right now!
You'd be amazed how much work I can get out of them for a single doughnut or an hour of violent video gaming!
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I want to know what they think or say when dad steps back and asks them to pose for a photo ?They're cool about it. They know I'm sending mom and the sisters a copy, which will lead to a bunch of family fun!
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 20, 2016, 09:14:26 AM
A buddy of mine said "Work with your kids, not with your back" and I see you do the same. Lol.Wise man, your buddy!
I believe hard work and challenges build a good man
Tired men sleep at night when mischief is out...
Hard work builds the body physically
Accomplishing tasks that seem too big at first teaches accomplishment
Work creates opportunities to teach how tools can help
Work keeps one from being idle
You tend to eat at regular times
You feel good after a hard day of work
You can usually look at something you created or changed
It builds in a sense of ownership...The boys will look back decades at something they built as a child
It connects you to the earth and nature
It's fun
It shows you by working you can stay warm when it's cold outside
God created us to work with our hands, so you are practicing his plan for your life
Post by: OldKooT on March 20, 2016, 10:59:19 AM
I am about to embark on a "fort/playhouse" for the grandkids. I am already planning to put them to work helping build it. They are 2 and 4 years old..and their Mom declared they can't use the nail guns and stuff. Hammers it is......
Post by: Flyin6 on March 20, 2016, 12:20:27 PM
The place is looking good Don...way fancier than my old barn for sure. (YOU CAN SEE YOUR FLOOR AND STUFF EVEN)
I am about to embark on a "fort/playhouse" for the grandkids. I am already planning to put them to work helping build it. They are 2 and 4 years old..and their Mom declared they can't use the nail guns and stuff. Hammers it is......
Hammers are good, but those nail guns are our new automatic weapons after Hillary removes the 2nd amendment
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 20, 2016, 01:55:10 PM
Looking good Don! And great for the pre-Rangers too. Good memories with their Dad.Roger that!
Figuring up the second deck framing at the moment...
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Did you end up with 9' side walls?Yes
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Post by: Dawg25385 on March 20, 2016, 04:48:18 PM
I am pretty handy... Way more so with building and stuff around the house, than with automotive stuff.
People ask me, esp knowing I have a desk job, "where'd you learn all this stuff?"
"My dad."
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 20, 2016, 06:19:18 PM
Working from memory here, structure is 16' wide I think. 2x12 x16' if you want no interior support wall in middle (my preference) notch ends of top side of 2x12 & insert this on top of 2x4 or 6 (can't recall what exterior walls were) that is scabbed to wall studs. In essence you have the end of the 2x12 wedged in between the support below & the exterior wall upper sil plate. All the exterior wall studs are now double width adding strength & supporting upper free span loft. If you wanted interior support wall you could drop to 2x10' or even 2x8's most likely if support wall is centered up in building. Either way this should get you 8' standard ceiling height bottom floor & then whatever up top.....12's would definately be strong, but all I need is 2 X 10's.
I used the calculator to determine floor loading limits and I could not approach them on a 10, so it is more than adequate. Using a sofa. I figured 700 pounds assuming three large American people were sitting on my heavy Italian sofa. I still had a couple hundred pounds to spare.
Another consideration is the loss of 2" height in that confined upper space. I need it all!
I'm setting the ceiling height in the lower shop at a low 7'. Not much space considering a smaller tractor with a roll bar or something like that.
This is only the next evolutionary step in the hide site build out. It will serve a purpose, housing people in an emergency temporarily, but will become extra space and storage when the real cabin goes in later on
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Beastie Boys. Nice DOT
Don your shed/shop/house is looking good!!
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 21, 2016, 04:23:49 PM
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Post by: JR on March 21, 2016, 09:37:54 PM
Think on your 7ft ceiling a little. I had just under a 8' in my old garage and it always was an issue with almost any wood in 8ft lengths. You don't think about it, you just start to flip and you get stuck. If it is a sheet of wood, you can really get messed up.
I would suggest screws for everything to.
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 22, 2016, 09:11:37 AM
Think he said In another thread he was buyin 3.5" Galvanized ring shanks for the nailer. Dang near screws, those suckers ain't comin outYep, I purchased 10 gage 3 1/2" and 2 1/2" ring shank nails. My experience with them is they do not come out...at all!
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2016, 09:07:25 PM
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Well, one of those statements is true!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2016, 09:12:34 PM
The pneumatic nailer came pretty much assembled, although set up for the 21 degree nails. I purchased 34 degree framing nails so I had to switch that all around. It was a simple three step process and the nail gun ran flawlessly driving a few hundred nails today
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First I nailed up joist hangers to the 2 X 10 SYP Band board on the front and back walls
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The door was el cheapo. Cost me $55 out the door (Get it? Out the door!?!)
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It took quite a bit of time, but I did manage to get all of the band up and ready for hangers
Post by: Flyin6 on March 23, 2016, 09:29:00 PM
When leaving I got to looking at the transformer just outside on a pole. I noticed that reddish grid thing. Anyone know what that is?
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Post by: JR on March 23, 2016, 09:59:14 PM
I still like the idea of an 8 ft ceiling, but its yours,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I bet the ring is so the critters don't short themselves out on the 2 posts. To bad you can run all that underground.
Post by: KensAuto on March 24, 2016, 12:15:01 AM
I bet the ring is so the critters don't short themselves out on the 2 posts. To bad you can run all that underground.
Dingdingding. It keeps critters (like squirrels) from climbing the primary line .
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 24, 2016, 12:57:52 AM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Sammconn on March 24, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
Shop is looking good. I hope you don't regret the low ceiling in he long run.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2016, 09:18:32 AM
In the mean while, with respect to constantly building up the "Hide-Site" aspect to the place, the upstairs increases utility of the place as well as the utility/storage room
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2016, 09:26:58 AM
Like the steps, had those on my patio for a couple years before I finally pored cement. Nice sidewalk too.You like that hugh?
I still like the idea of an 8 ft ceiling, but its yours,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I bet the ring is so the critters don't short themselves out on the 2 posts. To bad you can run all that underground.
Yep, was a lot of work and thought put into that project!
Well if the creek doesn't rise or the bridge wash out (Literally!) I'll toss up a porch (As Koot would say) sometime later on when it's too hot to work and all the biting insects are out in force!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2016, 09:25:56 PM
I talked with the local propane company owner. He is going to come down and scout the place for either a single 1000 gal or two 500 gal tanks. He is giving me a deal on the gas and will set up the shed and the camper and another stubbed out line for the coming cabin.
Next I dug out an old Delta table saw I was using as a table. Thank goodness I hadn't used it as a welding table!
I picked up two 28" sections of angle iron and four locking caster wheels. That way I can slide it into a corner or pull it out to rip boards.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 24, 2016, 09:28:21 PM
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I started by ripping a pine board into 2.5" strips, then cutting a small bevel on the edge to dress up the coming frame.
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And that finished me for the day. I'll load all that into the trailer and tow the collective mess down to the forgotten land and see if I can find a place to place all that junk.
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Post by: JR on March 24, 2016, 10:28:28 PM
Hey, pull SD out there and use it for a porch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: Flyin6 on March 25, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Love the wheels, just what I need for mine. I think I have it all to.Porch...Hmmm, never thought about that
Hey, pull SD out there and use it for a porch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Hey, know how you say certain things in a certain way, just so the kids will always remember?
I say something to my boyz about a truck:
"Just remember if you have a truck, you always have a place to sit"
Referring to the tailgate of course!
Post by: stlaser on March 25, 2016, 11:50:22 AM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on March 25, 2016, 10:12:34 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
That was kick butt...super workout and the boyz and I are toast!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 09:59:48 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:03:28 PM
You may recall there was an old stone grill thing which I had pushed down in the back yard. Well, I busted that all up and back filled the whole area like 18" deep with the pieces!
The wall will have to rise another 18" before I call it G-T-G, but this is a healthy start, and good for the boys to experience building something that hard
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
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First I stained the frames with a good jell stain
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The yard is starting to shape up
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:18:22 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:21:03 PM
Maybe try and trim it up and see if I can make a decent looking tree out of it.
Well, that's it for the day before Easter.
Not looking forward to all the Christers showing up at church tomorrow...
(Christmas and Easter Christians)
Post by: JR on March 26, 2016, 10:28:41 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 26, 2016, 10:35:52 PM
Lots of good solid work there. Trees over driveways are great, trim it up.Speaking of which, if you look at my place on goggle earth, you absolutely can not see the road at all. Trees completely cover it, and that may be a good thing!
Post by: JR on March 26, 2016, 10:38:21 PM
Post by: BobbyB on March 26, 2016, 11:15:00 PM
Speaking of which, if you look at my place on goggle earth, you absolutely can not see the road at all. Trees completely cover it, and that may be a good thing!
Until it gets updated.
Post by: KensAuto on March 26, 2016, 11:20:04 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on March 27, 2016, 08:40:12 AM
Just down the hill is a good spot to slide that camper in, but there was a mess of brush and a huge nasty bush/tree thing. I chain sawed the trees and stacked them in around that ugly tree thing. I'll set fire to it and hopefully kill that weed/bush/tree thing
It looks like it might be an Osage Orange (Hedge Apple) tree and those make great firewood! Hard on chainsaws, but burn really hot/high BTUs.
Post by: cudakidd53 on March 27, 2016, 08:44:45 AM
Not sure what I am going to do with this nasty old tree which sits on the driveway side of the old house???
Maybe try and trim it up and see if I can make a decent looking tree out of it.
Well, that's it for the day before Easter.
Not looking forward to all the Christers showing up at church tomorrow...
(Christmas and Easter Christians)
Today, YOU can make a connection with some "Christers" and positively influence their erratic attendance - connections, it's all about connections! :)
Post by: Flyin6 on March 27, 2016, 10:35:30 AM
You're not going to believe it, but I woke up too late to go!Not sure what I am going to do with this nasty old tree which sits on the driveway side of the old house???
Maybe try and trim it up and see if I can make a decent looking tree out of it.
Well, that's it for the day before Easter.
Not looking forward to all the Christers showing up at church tomorrow...
(Christmas and Easter Christians)
Today, YOU can make a connection with some "Christers" and positively influence their erratic attendance - connections, it's all about connections! :)
I'll be honest here, I really didn't want to go, so I guess I just let myself go on and rest. But I do not like all the "Fake" surrounding this holy day. Celebrate Jesus a risen king? Absolutely! But going late to a church crowded with all those "Pretty" people...not my cup of tea.
So I may have done wrong, but there was no way I could have made it on time, so I just made a pot of coffee and I'll watch it online.
I feel bad cause the wife managed to get up and out the door dragging the boys who were all wrinkled out...I normally iron their clothes and get them looking respectable. But for some reason today, I was not into fighting the crowds. No worries starting next week they will all disappear until Christmas so we can get back to normal.
Post by: JR on March 27, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
Normal,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: OldKooT on March 28, 2016, 08:05:21 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 28, 2016, 11:19:30 AM
That's something I miss living in Neb...we have virtually no stones. It's looking good Don, you seem to be keeping busy.Yessir, I am!
Post by: husker77c on March 29, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
Just down the hill is a good spot to slide that camper in, but there was a mess of brush and a huge nasty bush/tree thing. I chain sawed the trees and stacked them in around that ugly tree thing. I'll set fire to it and hopefully kill that weed/bush/tree thing
It looks like it might be an Osage Orange (Hedge Apple) tree and those make great firewood! Hard on chainsaws, but burn really hot/high BTUs.
And the wrinkled green fruit things that fall off it are supposedly good for keeping insects away. The in laws load up buckets of them and put them in their basement.
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Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 09:58:22 PM
It all started with this:
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 10:01:17 PM
First I cut and framed out the 3' X 3' landing which would be 24" high
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 10:03:25 PM
The legs came next. I cut out a slot to fit in and around the 2 X 6 frame. Screws and glue were used everywhere
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 10:04:55 PM
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I built the stringers from a single 2 X 12 X 8, cutting out three stringers. The treads are two 2 X 6 and a toe kick of 3/4" pine board
Post by: Flyin6 on March 29, 2016, 10:10:09 PM
I started with screwing in the center toe kick board to hold everything square
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Post by: JR on March 29, 2016, 11:57:43 PM
Thats one of my 1st projects when I am walking some. Patio, stairs and 2nd solar system.
Post by: Flyin6 on March 30, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Heck, you could park SD on that.I bet we are all just like you JR. When we are down, we are planning for the first projects for when we are all better!
Thats one of my 1st projects when I am walking some. Patio, stairs and 2nd solar system.
Post by: JR on March 30, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
Post by: Wilbur on March 30, 2016, 04:36:09 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 30, 2016, 05:02:43 PM
Great work as always Don. Definitely some stout stairs.I'm now working on the second rise. Have all the toe kicks and treads cut out, and the pattern for the stringer half cut out. Wife came home early and told me I was done for the day...
Post by: stlaser on March 30, 2016, 05:09:53 PM
BOSS came home early and told me I was done for the day...
Post by: Flyin6 on March 30, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
FIFYYa, well...BOSS came home early and told me I was done for the day...
Post by: stlaser on March 30, 2016, 09:16:11 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 07:52:29 PM
Started with another stack of lumber. Under a hundred this time around!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 07:53:29 PM
These will be assembled on site
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 07:55:29 PM
Using the standard 8" rise per step put me within 1/4" of coming out perfect. I'm happy with that!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 07:57:15 PM
Post by: Sammconn on March 31, 2016, 07:59:43 PM
Never though of the chop saw for stringers!
Well done!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 08:01:30 PM
I'm liking this glue. I'm using it on everything, even that red dog (Which against my wishes, came home to us after the daughter moved and wasn't allowed to have a dog in the new place.)
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 08:04:10 PM
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And with that, just like that I was done!
Post by: Flyin6 on March 31, 2016, 08:18:15 PM
We still plan to burn the house after considering everything.
I think I'll have the cistern reconditioned since that would be most cost effective.
I think I'll repair the basement walls and build the next structure over top of it, but make access to it through some secret something...fake wall, removable floor panel, something.
As for the actual structure. I like this shed construction so much I'm going to do it again.
I'm thinking widen it to 24 feet and lengthen it to 36 feet and build 10 foot walls. That would give us 1728 total square feet plus the 740 over in the shed, which along with the camper and support building (Rest of the Shed) is all we would need.
Add to that a pump house, a generator and battery room or shed, and throw up some shed roofs on the shed and even the equipment could find a dry spot. Kath says we are adding a pool!
Of course I oppose that idea, but then when I consider the added 30,000 gallons of water just sitting there, with the prospect of staying clean with it, and drinking rain water, it doesn't sound all so bad.
I'll add a porch on both the shed and the cabin, along with a back deck on the cabin and a shed roof on the shed, throw in a gazebo thing to get the picnic table under roof, build a fire pit and a wood storage something like Red Neck made and I think I have the makings of something that we could make a go of it in extremis...or for a weekend getaway!
Post by: KensAuto on March 31, 2016, 09:43:32 PM
Post by: stlaser on March 31, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Post by: Nate on March 31, 2016, 10:58:52 PM
Lookin good don.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 01, 2016, 09:38:33 AM
Sounds like you got it figured out. Still trying to understand the whole pool thang. I would think that a tennis court would be a priority!You know the deal Ken...We get this or that thing started...do all the hard work. Then along the way somewhere, the LOH (lady of the house) suddenly notices. You see it has evolved to the point where it is usable or clean, or fun, or someone else is now interested in it as well.
Well anyway, having arrived at this landmark point in time, suddenly your BH (Better half) jumps right in, but not as the adviser or partner, nope, she thinks she is the job superintendent. She is now headlong involved into taking this confused mess (in her view) and misaligned concept, to change it into her concept. Ya know, now that I got it started...
Witness: My "Hide" site. The LOH sees it as a public gathering place far and away from the headwaters of suburban culture. An island of culture in a sea of hillbilly where the cultured (Mostly female) friends of hers can come and bask in the sun while their neanderthal husbands can go off and kill bear and wrestle alligators. So a pool becomes quintessential to her whole IPC (island of paradise concept).
The way I see it, I know all about this subtle psychological ploy, so I simply play it for all it's worth. "Pool you say?" "Of course honey, that's a great idea for a primitive hide site which also might just save our lives while a carnal america devours itself!" "Ya know while we have that pool, I'll need to build in a water purification system, ya know to keep the pool water fresh!" "And I'll need a good supply of electricity, just in case the electrical grid fails. Well, I'll find some diesel generator, add in a sea of solar cells and a bunch of batteries, just so the pump will stay running. But don't worry about those details, just focus on the big picture!"
"And I should probably build you a place to change, right? So I'll add another shed right here and ya, I might have some stuff in there, but we both know it's really a changing room. You'll need a deck to sun yourself, right? I'll put one right here, right over top this big underground chamber that I'll add just in case you need a place nearby to get out of the sun and cool down."
"I also think we should build on the party atmosphere, so I'll just put up these cool infrared red lights everywhere and these cameras so we can catch people here and there with candids that we can add to the family photo album."
"Oh, the guns, you ask?" "Wouldn't normally find them around a spa, I know. But they can be part of the hillbilly resort theme I plan to use in the overall design, isn't that fun? Ya know guns, bullets, knives and things, just to make the place feel authentic!"
Now the cabin...yea the cabin. I'll have to spend extra time on it to be sure it is a complete four season thing. Yes, I know that part of the year we might not be swimming and killin bear, but what if I make a place where the girls can have a "Girly weekend out, a sleepover?" "What about that?" Yea, I can see a fireplace, a way to cook meals, some beds to sleep in, and how about some really cool and trendy bucket showers, wouldn't that be fun?
By now I am off researching the tree saw I want while she is having dreams of Paris in the hills...
It works like that ^^^
Post by: Bob Smith on April 01, 2016, 01:15:52 PM
Post by: JR on April 01, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
As for the sheds I noticed no insulation, perhaps that should begin to appear?
Maybe a smallish solar water heater to a small tank so you have showers without power?
Post by: Flyin6 on April 01, 2016, 07:15:10 PM
Don, the pool boy. You will be glad you have a tree saw when you start fighting the leaves in the new pool.Bigger tree saw, Bob:
http://turbosaw.com/tractor.php
Might go for the 3200 with hydraulic grapple
Post by: Flyin6 on April 01, 2016, 07:17:24 PM
Actually, just put a good cover on it. Keeps all kind of things out, then you just blow it off.I plan to insulate that small room and the upstairs
As for the sheds I noticed no insulation, perhaps that should begin to appear?
Maybe a smallish solar water heater to a small tank so you have showers without power?
A solar water heater is a good idea! Hadn't thought about that. Maybe a small one, as this is not a primary living structure, but I am thinking about a bathroom upstairs
Post by: JR on April 01, 2016, 08:13:02 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 01, 2016, 09:17:05 PM
Yep, something small with a recirculating that lifts water as it gets heated, all solar, always hot cept when snowing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,JR, can you point me to a good system for the shed? Maybe I'll score one and see how the whole thing works...get ready for the cabin.
I think I might put that cabin up this fall/early winter.
Post by: Bob Smith on April 01, 2016, 11:08:54 PM
Your BRUSH hog will love you after that purchase.Don, the pool boy. You will be glad you have a tree saw when you start fighting the leaves in the new pool.Bigger tree saw, Bob:
http://turbosaw.com/tractor.php
Might go for the 3200 with hydraulic grapple
Post by: OldKooT on April 03, 2016, 07:39:07 AM
Some old farmers even bury old cement septic tanks full of drain oil. They then toss in say a half dozen old cast iron radiators from the steam heat era in said tank full of oil. When plumbed to a solar collector of decent size, say 12'x20' they now have a nice large 500+gallon heat sink with which to heat their homes/buildings when there is no/low sun.
Then add a gassification boiler to the mix......I'll shut up now.
Post by: stlaser on April 03, 2016, 03:21:19 PM
Post by: Wilbur on April 03, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
As for the trees I don't think you're thinking big enough. This oughta do the trick.... ;D
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Post by: JR on April 03, 2016, 03:44:09 PM
Say you want 75-100 gal you want to keep warm for showers, cleanup and little things. I would mount the tank so your only have to pump water in to keep it filled. A small brushless pump running off the solar system with a regulator/invertor 12v would do just fine. Simple water level switch and you are done.
Then a secondary system for heating the water and keeping it moving so it doesn't get nasty and goes though a filter.
I have made coiled water heaters like below and they work fine. Kept my above ground pool warm with 95* water all I wanted and it just used the pools pump.
I now use the flat panels made for heating pool water. You can get then in about any size, but 2x10/12 and 4x10/12 are very common. I use the 4x12 with 4 panels and get 95* water from 80* pool water. Warmer in, warmer out. So a small system could give you water well into the 100s recirculating it.
It is all basic stuff and I am using mostly off the shelf and CL panels new they are way to much. I use a used 1/2 hp pool pump for my pool, but you don't need that flow.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 03, 2016, 04:52:03 PM
looking at these
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Let me see, mount some sort of heat collector on the roof and build off that. I thought the heat collector and system was a sealed unit with a heat exchanger mounted in a water heater. The water tank water being that which you actually used to wash with. That is the system I would envision due to the occasional sub zero temps we see here.
Anyway, should be easy enough to figure out. I guess I'll mount that under the stair case.
Speaking of which, I now have one!
Yesterday was a tough one for sure. It was in the high forties but we had strong winds all day gusting over 55 mph at times!
I thought it was going to be a warm day and I did not dress appropriately. As a result I froze my butt off!
Fearing there was going to be late afternoon rain, I got to work earth moving right away.
But I had the boys move the trailer full of lumber inside and create this pile for me to work down.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2016, 05:04:56 PM
I would have liked to have Sarge to do the heavy lifting, but the tractor was up to the task for this level of work
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2016, 05:07:44 PM
I started with nailing the landing into the corner.
I decided to place the step riser into the outside wall corner instead of tying it to the new wall because after thinking about it, it would yield the greatest use of the space above.
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Post by: Nate on April 03, 2016, 05:47:36 PM
Post by: Sammconn on April 03, 2016, 07:21:37 PM
Post by: JR on April 03, 2016, 07:21:59 PM
For the water, the spiral is cheap and easy using drip water line. Not the easiest to keep from freezing. A couple of those in a 4x4 frame would be good start.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 03, 2016, 10:43:35 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 03, 2016, 11:12:04 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 05, 2016, 09:01:07 AM
I got to looking at the stairs and darned if they aren't tilted a bit to one side!
Not the worst thing though. Yesterday I was tugging at this old hard cedar stump. My technique is to open the 4-1 bucket essentially forming a big mouth. I then "bite" down on it and back away. Yesterday the stump was stubborn so I was flooring it trying to yank the thing out. I discovered the tract ice effort of a medium 66 horsepower tractor can exceed the weld strength of the bucket attachment pins. As the stump pulled free the bucket did as well...sort in concert with each other. So that ended my bucket operations for awhile
Time to get sarge down here!
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Post by: stlaser on April 05, 2016, 09:21:27 AM
& the great thing about steel is it can always be fixed.
Post by: BobbyB on April 05, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
Yesterday I was tugging at this old hard cedar stump. My technique is to open the 4-1 bucket essentially forming a big mouth. I then "bite" down on it and back away. Yesterday the stump was stubborn so I was flooring it trying to yank the thing out. I discovered the tract ice effort of a medium 66 horsepower tractor can exceed the weld strength of the bucket attachment pins. As the stump pulled free the bucket did as well...sort in concert with each other. So that ended my bucket operations for awhile
Time to get sarge down here!
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Why don't you just burn it in place? Remove most of the mass then remove the remnants.
Post by: OldKooT on April 05, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
Post by: JR on April 05, 2016, 10:36:42 AM
Post by: stlaser on April 05, 2016, 10:48:28 AM
Post by: EL TATE on April 05, 2016, 11:48:53 AM
I may do a stump removal how-to latter this spring. All you need is a stump, a cordless drill with a auger bit, a stick of TnT and something to hide behind.
At the scout camp I worked on the rifle range at, we had several stumps that needed removin'. drill, black powder, tannerite targets for safe distance ignition, loads of fun!
Post by: JR on April 05, 2016, 03:12:35 PM
Post by: EL TATE on April 05, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:48:13 AM
Yeah the jd isn't a dozer........... But look at the bright side you found the working parameters of that piece of equipment!Exactly!
& the great thing about steel is it can always be fixed.
I'll just weld it back together and CM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:50:51 AM
I've been yanking with success so far!Yesterday I was tugging at this old hard cedar stump. My technique is to open the 4-1 bucket essentially forming a big mouth. I then "bite" down on it and back away. Yesterday the stump was stubborn so I was flooring it trying to yank the thing out. I discovered the tract ice effort of a medium 66 horsepower tractor can exceed the weld strength of the bucket attachment pins. As the stump pulled free the bucket did as well...sort in concert with each other. So that ended my bucket operations for awhile
Time to get sarge down here!
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Why don't you just burn it in place? Remove most of the mass then remove the remnants.
This one bested me I'm afraid
Post by: Atkinsmatt on April 06, 2016, 08:52:46 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 09:11:51 AM
Have developed a ton of ideas for the place.
Need a tower...multiple platforms for antennas, solar panels and wind generator. I am never without wind here. Think I'll wrap around the deck enough to tuck a power and battery room on one corner...wood closet on the other to feed the wood stove.
Thought about the solar water heater. Think I'll add a coil into the wood stove routed to the hot water tank or to a field of radiant floor heating for the shed as an experiment to see if burning wood could heat the whole thing and make hot water for the shower...
Question: if I use cedar posts for the tower I wonder how long they would
last in the ground? Figure I'd use a 7-8" post for the first level maybe 10-12' out of the ground. Tie them together and brace up then slip down a steel pile a couple feet over the exposed end. Sand the ends round then just slip in the next section into the pipe. Thinking using steel or treated 2 X 12's for the bracing and decking. If I went three sections I'd have a good observation platform. Run a pole up from that for the wind turbine and I'd have the blades I. Almost 40 feet of air
Put the solar panels on the top deck mounted from the sides like flower pedals then strap on a VHF, a HF, a FM, and a TV digital antenna and I'd have a pretty good spot to shoot deer and turkey from!
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 09:13:40 AM
Sarge ready for deployment? I am sure that he is waiting on a mission. Otherwise he is just sitting around waiting to start leaking.Like any good NCO, Sarge is ready
Also like any NCO, he will not go quietly! ;-))
Post by: BobbyB on April 06, 2016, 09:18:12 AM
Need a tower...multiple platforms for antennas, solar panels and wind generator. I am never without wind here. Think I'll wrap around the deck enough to tuck a power and battery room on one corner...wood closet on the other to feed the wood stove.
Thought about the solar water heater. Think I'll add a coil into the wood stove routed to the hot water tank or to a field of radiant floor heating for the shed as an experiment to see if burning wood could heat the whole thing and make hot water for the shower...
Put the solar panels on the top deck mounted from the sides like flower pedals then strap on a VHF, a HF, a FM, and a TV digital antenna and I'd have a pretty good spot to shoot deer and turkey from!
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There's a guy up in this area that has 2 wind turbines. Bought 1, and after 6 months got enough money back from the power company to buy the second. But his towers are narrow single poles with guide wires. If you can find one of those old style TV "towers" that used to be by peoples houses; you could re-task it to how you want it. More than enough surface area to mount antennas.
Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 10:44:46 AM
Don you should look into a small biomass gassification boiler. You could then heat multiple buildings, your water, and have a very low electricity draw for just the circulation pumps. Translated, easy to run on a gen set or battery bank when required.
where is Sarge? I'd have thought you'd have that ole boy down there remodeling the landscape first chance you got.
Post by: JR on April 06, 2016, 12:51:12 PM
I like the coil ides for hot water. You could still use the little brushless motor to move that around, just add a valve.
Post by: Wilbur on April 06, 2016, 01:39:12 PM
(https://greenpassivesolar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/window-heater.gif)
I built one of these (the angled one like the one on the left) more for sh**s & giggles than anything else and I was really surprised at the output. It takes in the relatively colder air from the house on the bottom side, the air then comes into the "heater" portion which is the top half of the unit and then flows into the house. I need a fan to run it more efficiently but it raises the temp by over 40 degrees. Plus its kind of a cool project for the kids to be part of. There's plans all over the web for this stuff and all the materials were easy to grab at HD.
A buddy of mine designed his house in CO using a passive design and he has a small 8x10 room on one corner of the house. He has a sliding reflective shade that controls the amount of sunlight that comes in and a slider into the rest of the house to adjust the airflow into the room. The ceiling of the room is 2x6's with gaps to allow the heated air into the upstairs of the house. He uses about 1/3 of the heat as all his neighbors with similarly sized houses. Now CO and its 300 days of sunshine make it an ideal place to do that but even a little unit can provide a big change if for no other reason than to "take the chill" off a room in the winter. Plus you can just close it off in the summer when you don't need it.
I am somewhat on the fence for wind....I agree it works at night which is good. But I am not sure the cost is that great and it also totally advertises the location that SOMETHING is there which might invite nosey or other folks. I might look for tall trees for radio antennas that could somewhat camouflage them as opposed to a big tower.
Just my $0.02. I am done telling you what to do with your money for the day.
Well....for the next 10 minutes anyhow! ;D
Post by: KensAuto on April 06, 2016, 02:45:20 PM
Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 03:15:40 PM
Those passive solar deals are very effective. I built a cobbled together version once for a deer stand...it was very cozy. I keep meaning to build a more polished out version for my wife's work out room, but the cold air makes her exercise faster for heat, so I have yet got around to it.
Maybe I will build one for the grandkids playhouse deal we are going to build. That would be fun and handy to have.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
Thought about those old school towers.Need a tower...multiple platforms for antennas, solar panels and wind generator. I am never without wind here. Think I'll wrap around the deck enough to tuck a power and battery room on one corner...wood closet on the other to feed the wood stove.
Thought about the solar water heater. Think I'll add a coil into the wood stove routed to the hot water tank or to a field of radiant floor heating for the shed as an experiment to see if burning wood could heat the whole thing and make hot water for the shower...
Put the solar panels on the top deck mounted from the sides like flower pedals then strap on a VHF, a HF, a FM, and a TV digital antenna and I'd have a pretty good spot to shoot deer and turkey from!
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There's a guy up in this area that has 2 wind turbines. Bought 1, and after 6 months got enough money back from the power company to buy the second. But his towers are narrow single poles with guide wires. If you can find one of those old style TV "towers" that used to be by peoples houses; you could re-task it to how you want it. More than enough surface area to mount antennas.
Trying to do things on the cheap. Especially retasking things I already own, like 10,000 unwanted cedar trees. I have to cut them down anyway, so other than selling them I plan to use them everywhere.
They should start showing up in the photos here before summer, I'd suspect...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
So without further adieu, I ripped the tractor bucket off yanking on an old stump...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
That stump was a gnarly thing!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:49:32 PM
I guess I yanked the cross bar apart as well, so I'll have to buy that little specimen
In retrospect, you win some and you lose some. Overall the day was G-T-G!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:51:12 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:56:34 PM
The camper soldiers on, producing no new challenges for me this time. It has a water leak at the toilet from something freezing and splitting this past ice age, but for $50 I'll be back to a normal flush.
The Generec seems to have found it's groove. That little trooper will run for 12 hours on a tank of fuel and still have some left over. I'm amazed...did it break in or something? It was eating a tank every 8 hours last summer running the AC...Maybe the lower power demand from the gas furnace is helping matters?
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 07:58:41 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:10:11 PM
The process is laborious when working by yourself with heavy and ling beams. I cut them to 181 5/8" length, shoved one end into a hanger, then did a military press with the other end of the beam, doing a tippy-toe maneuver to drop that sidewinder into the opposite hangar and not my foot.
OK, note here: When doing this sort of thing and the other end comes out, let go and run! Do not try and hang on. You have no idea how destructive wobble, vibration, kinetic energy, bouncing, and old joints can be. If you like hanging on to things like this, maybe you could hold onto a bush hog blade when the pto is engaged! I suspect the resulting discombobulation is about the same!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:12:15 PM
Recommendation: Do not nail down tongue and groove plywood like a big dog if you ever anticipate sliding another piece of tongue and groove in to attach to the first piece.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:14:26 PM
And the process continued, joist after heavy joist...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:16:39 PM
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Post by: JR on April 06, 2016, 08:18:49 PM
If the end is not over that wall, I would run a 2x4 up the wall to the bottom of the last floor joist.
Looking at the last pics it appears you some overhang but the joists have no support vs the hangers on the wall so I would think about that..
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:19:34 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Don, just thinking as I don't remember how all this is going in. On the second floor, does it end on another interior wall, or just end?JR, it spans end to end with an opening for the staircase. The floor will anchor all four walls with a thousand Chinaman ring shanked nails
If the end is not over that wall, I would run a 2x4 up the wall to the bottom of the last floor joist.
Post by: JR on April 06, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:24:16 PM
Closest neighbor. Pic taken with 40X
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:24:43 PM
You are a busy man, get Sarge going!!Its getting hauled down soon!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:26:12 PM
A moment please...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:28:24 PM
I mounted this fire extinguisher near the glock, err, I mean door.
I can't decide if it's charged or not?!!? Guess I'll wait until something critical is on fire to find out! ;-)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:30:36 PM
It started like this:
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:32:51 PM
So I temporarily screwed the top to the wall, shoving a couple legs under, then screwed some hinges to the table and the studs
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Post by: cudakidd53 on April 06, 2016, 08:38:25 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:40:40 PM
I cut out the collar ties which will finish out the peak of the roof, both making the rafters stronger, and giving me something straight to nail up the ceiling boards to
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:41:28 PM
Slick table idea! Love the red bud trees a popin'They'd look purdy poppin' through that snow in Chi-Town!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:43:55 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:44:42 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 06, 2016, 08:46:27 PM
Safety First! Or last, or not at all!
I mounted this fire extinguisher near the glock, err, I mean door.
I can't decide if it's charged or not?!!? Guess I'll wait until something critical is on fire to find out! ;-)
Probably a future welding table.....
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:49:17 PM
I'd need a 1-oh-5 to hit them from my place!
Telephoto pics...houses maybe 2-3 miles away
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
That's a freakin GREAT idea! and right next to two gas cans and one jug of diesel! Just need to add in a few pounds of tannerite to make the scene complete!Safety First! Or last, or not at all!
I mounted this fire extinguisher near the glock, err, I mean door.
I can't decide if it's charged or not?!!? Guess I'll wait until something critical is on fire to find out! ;-)
Probably a future welding table.....
Post by: OldKooT on April 06, 2016, 09:40:30 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 06, 2016, 09:45:35 PM
Funny, I thought of Don today while I was welding a bracket for my mini tractor on my wooden work bench. I looked around, saw the Napatha can, the part washer full of mineral spirits and well, I welded faster LoL I really should build a welding table for the barn....someday.Proof once again that wooden welding tables work!
Post by: Dawg25385 on April 07, 2016, 12:06:29 AM
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Post by: Sammconn on April 07, 2016, 12:23:05 AM
Looks great!
Now get Sarge out there before you really break the Deere.
Post by: Nate on April 07, 2016, 03:49:39 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2016, 03:57:22 PM
or sarge gets pissy and springs another leak
Sarge has the perfect owner
It leaks and I'm a Chinook pilot. Nuff said!
Now if I was a BlackHawk pilot, I'd get all scared and run away...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
Not too bad
And started planning my next project
Window shutters
Steel reinforced storm shutters
Electrified, steel reinforced storm shutters...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2016, 04:00:53 PM
I have a steel door(s)
The shutters will be made of steel mesh and wood
There will be a 15 mile cattle shocker involved in the construction...
Post by: stlaser on April 07, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on April 07, 2016, 04:41:51 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
Ma place: Bernie proof by design!
Where we design in multiple opportunities for B Sanders voters to experience (the end of) life!
Post by: cj7ox on April 07, 2016, 06:18:30 PM
Don't forget poor Hillarious! She would be quite upset at being left out!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 07, 2016, 06:29:22 PM
Don,She's next...
Don't forget poor Hillarious! She would be quite upset at being left out!
Post by: cj7ox on April 07, 2016, 06:33:48 PM
Post by: JR on April 07, 2016, 07:52:02 PM
Post by: JR on April 07, 2016, 07:52:38 PM
Don,
Don't forget poor Hillarious! She would be quite upset at being left out!
She will not be left out, it is her turn, remember??
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2016, 08:21:08 AM
Maybe some bozo will try to pee on the wrong thing. Oh to have video!I plan on many cameras
I want folks or deer photo'd several times on approach to the electrocution area.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2016, 08:21:49 AM
Don,
Don't forget poor Hillarious! She would be quite upset at being left out!
Hillary for prison 2016!
She will not be left out, it is her turn, remember??
Post by: stlaser on April 08, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
I plan on many cameras
I want folks or deer photo'd several times on approach to the electrocution area.
Well of course, I mean it is the tuck we're talking about & teeth r optional! Once the guy is toast you should have some way of identifying him so you can inform next of kin. It's only the right thing to do....... ::)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2016, 11:13:56 AM
I plan on many camerasWell of course, I mean it is the tuck we're talking about & teeth r optional! Once the guy is toast you should have some way of identifying him so you can inform next of kin. It's only the right thing to do....... ::)
I want folks or deer photo'd several times on approach to the electrocution area.
Disagree...
Next of Kin here are usually cammo'd up deer hunters with attitudes.
Kinda of like the wolf situation Duane was telling me about in Wyoming around his home town.
It's illegal to shoot wolves.
The wolves that are killing cattle for sport
Those wolves...
Lately, these wolves have been jumping in rivers and drowning themselves!
Locals, seeing dead wolves floating along with the current, will sometimes shoot at the DEAD carcasses for target practice.
Hillbillies are known to jump in rivers here as well...
Post by: JR on April 08, 2016, 02:23:11 PM
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2016, 04:48:50 PM
I wanted to do a shoes giveaway up in the hills from Hazard a couple years back. The man who is from thre didn't want to go back in there.
There are people there who have never been to school, no social security numbers, no electricity, and no shoes. Now how do you get along with no shoes???
Post by: cj7ox on April 08, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
Now how do you get along with no shoes???
You develop very tough feet!
Post by: stlaser on April 08, 2016, 05:28:30 PM
There are people there who have never been to school, no social security numbers, no electricity, and no shoes. Now how do you get along with no shoes???
That would be rough in the winter months there as it gets pretty frigid. Definitely a resilient bunch of people for sure. There's an old movie out called bloody Harlan, my elderly wheeling buddy had stories from when he was a kid about that.
Post by: EL TATE on April 08, 2016, 05:31:37 PM
Don,
Don't forget poor Hillarious! She would be quite upset at being left out!
I see what you did there ;)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2016, 05:36:50 PM
I am building 6 separate shutters to cover 3 main windows.
I can't do it all at once, but these three would be the easiest to gain access through. THe door lites will be next with a steel grid, then the two small east facing windows, then finally the two south wall windows. They will be under the shed roof and will get more of a steel grid than a shutter. I suppose I'll armor up the two top windows as well in time...
Total cost so far is $220 with tax
Post by: Sammconn on April 08, 2016, 09:14:53 PM
I remember "testing" the 12 odd miles on our 40 miler before they had those fancy pansy test lights.
You sure knew about it when everything was right.
Post by: KensAuto on April 08, 2016, 10:45:30 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 08, 2016, 11:16:09 PM
You serious on the electricifier Don? How will you insulate the shutters from the wood? I have some experience with those things, and can tell you that if it's hooked to a substance that can absorb water (wood siding) it will probably just short to ground....but....I haven't actually tried to electrify steel shudders before (and probably not too many folks have) lolMy plan is to coat the steel parts with something like a thin coating of rubberized undercoating. Should keep things separated, however if someone starts prying, they should pinch through the semi-flexible coating pdq and have a shocking experience.
And YES, I'm going to do it, why not?
Post by: Wilbur on April 09, 2016, 01:47:08 AM
Unless you're stocking lime at the site too.... ;)
Post by: stlaser on April 09, 2016, 01:49:56 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 09, 2016, 10:20:20 AM
As much as I hate to say this any risk of liability? I would love to believe a jury would say "not guilty" but with some of the nonsense we see today in society I would worry about said miscreants family crying how he was "turning his life around" and wanting big $.
Unless you're stocking lime at the site too.... ;)
Wil, The entire country is not the same as the population centers where stupidity seems to rule the day
Let me give you some examples
In the county where My farm is, you can build a house, barn, garage, Space-X launch pad without a permit!
Yep, just do what you want and no body cares. That's called freedom....
But if your house burns down and kills you due to faulty construction, it's on you. That's freedom as well!
Our trailers and campers are not required to be registered or licensed...That's freedom from excessive tax collection
...And that drives police departments from neighboring states crazy..."Where's your vehicle tags?"
We do not have vehicle safety inspections...That's freedom to put steel tires and wheels on your tracked F450 if you want.
There are no annual, semi-annual, bi-annual, or any other divisible of time, pollution control systems checks! Everyone around here removes all that junk and sells it to people needing it on the east and west coasts. Catalytic converters are split open quickly, and the grids crushed, packaged, shipped and sold to some company which processes out the pladium. That's how we make our first payment....That's freedom from an oppressive EPA which Coal loving Kentucky absolutely abhors!
You can pull out a machine gun and open up and nobody cares.
Tannerite is sold everywhere
Many disagreements are resolved the old fashioned way, which is a boom for the cosmetic dental industry. The police mostly just say, "You boys just work it out, seems fine here." The judges are the same.
Our county attorney does not wear shoes all the time in the office! True!
He made a big deal about the fact that he added an indoor bathroom to his custom house this past year. Immediately following that, his girlfriend married him! That's true as well.
Reading these things might seem humorous to some, but if you really look into it deeper, we experience a great of deal of freedom here which simply does not exist elsewhere. Americans might get a chuckle at some of our Archaic, back-woods ways, but, in the end who has more freedom?
I challenge everyone to think about it
If it makes you feel unsettled, or like something isn't right, well, then, perhaps there is hope. Millions of you need to get dammed angry about this oppressive over-reach by a government run by leftist idiots. Then you need to do something about it.
Post by: Wilbur on April 09, 2016, 04:52:07 PM
I COMPLETELY get your further comments on freedom which is why I am planning a move to Maine as soon as my youngest is out of school. ;) The WHOLE East Coast is not f'd up.
Post by: KensAuto on April 09, 2016, 05:08:22 PM
..especially the old ones that aren't electronic!!
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Post by: Wilbur on April 09, 2016, 05:42:51 PM
Wil, there's also the fact that livestock style electric fencing won't kill you, but can sure hurt!
..especially the old ones that aren't electronic!!
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Yep.....I know that first hand. ::)
Post by: Nate on April 09, 2016, 11:16:34 PM
http://www.tractorsupply.com/know-how_farm-ranch_fencing_electric-fence-designs-buffalo-bison-beefalo-fence
the electric fence that keep bison in, is upwards of like 10k voltage (no amperage as that's what will kill you!). my neighbor when I was growing up raised bison, had the fence clearly labeled as to the wattage, but people thought they would try to reach thru it anyways, that was until they found themselves waking up on the other side of the street......;D
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 09, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 10, 2016, 03:17:08 PM
go with something like this!Last one I built, I ran one wire maybe 10" off the ground and grounded the other wire to planet earth. I remember watching a daddy long legs walking up the grass. He steps over onto the wire and just like that, he turned into smoke! The body burned into a gas, leaving only the twisted remnants of that leg to witness his passing.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/know-how_farm-ranch_fencing_electric-fence-designs-buffalo-bison-beefalo-fence
the electric fence that keep bison in, is upwards of like 10k voltage (no amperage as that's what will kill you!). my neighbor when I was growing up raised bison, had the fence clearly labeled as to the wattage, but people thought they would try to reach thru it anyways, that was until they found themselves waking up on the other side of the street......;D
Hot wire to all the grids and the steel doors through the knob of course, and the remaining wire into the ground, into a steel plate, I'm thinking. Gonna bury one for the lightening ground anyway.
A little of that KY dew we are famous for ought to make the necessary connections!
Post by: Nate on April 10, 2016, 06:12:04 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 10, 2016, 09:19:31 PM
Thanks!
OK started the shutters today after church.
First order of business was to build a jig. This rectangle is the size of the window and the trim. I'll build them so that they close and cover just that area, and open so that they do not obstruct the view from the window
Post by: Flyin6 on April 10, 2016, 09:21:34 PM
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 10, 2016, 09:24:32 PM
Lay it up, and cut it out...I used my plasma torch for the slicin' and dicin'
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on April 11, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: stlaser on April 11, 2016, 10:54:56 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 01:03:12 PM
We could start an event. See who can break into Don's shed. Don't could try and keep us out.Ya know, I don't know what you people are drinking out of that salty pond out there
Raising boys into RealMen!!
But you are talkin about invadin the privacy of someone from the place where banjo music came from
You don't want any of this...
;-))
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 10:52:19 PM
No, Norm is not around here, just busy...
People...
So anyway, I finished welding the expanded metal to the last couple shutter frames. With that done, I then welded on 12 - 4" steel hinges, and I welded the pin in place so those puppies are permanized
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 10:53:34 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 11, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
The steel frames will still get the wood shutters to pretty up things a bit...
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 03:40:14 PM
Well, I'm probably not the smartest criminal cause well I ain't a criminal. But as I see this contraption in my head the straight ends of those rods would be hanging either to the left or the right of the windows. If it's exposed all it would take is me swinging my favorite steel working tool (a 10# sledge) with a blow directly on end of steel rod to tear those nuts loose from their mount making the bars ineffective & the hot wire as well not so effective. I guess I don't have a criminal mind but after designing stuff for a long time to be indestructible to the average off roader I kinda always try to think in that dimension. But maybe again Don being the smart guy he is has more to show us too?It's like an anti-tank ditch
Will keep out the pesky recon guys or a wayward tank or two.
But should the main body show up...?
Well, they'll just call up an engineer unit and bridge your little trap and then start to poke around some more, knowing there must be something of importance about that needs wreckin'
Completely safe?
Never
But able to hurt em some...Priceless!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 12, 2016, 09:53:10 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:02:02 PM
Open up the building?
You'd level it and throw the contents into the adjacent counties!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:04:44 PM
I picked up a new Champion 3300/4000 generator at Lowes today for $314 out the door. It is made with a RV ready 30 amp 120 VAC circuit, so it was really a no brainer for me
Here's the box of stuff:
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:07:59 PM
The thing comes shipped without oil, which is provided, that you must install. Must be due to some stupid EPA tree huger regulation, but whateva...
After adding the oil, I drilled a hole and mounted the funnel to the chassis so it wouldn't become a chew toy and I'd have it for the 25 hour oil change interval I have decided to adopt.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:10:46 PM
I pulled it through a couple times, then flipped the switch to run and pulled it once and it rumbled to life. Very easy starting.
It has the correct 30 amp RV plug and even has a fuel screen at the fill point. It's pretty good quality
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:13:01 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
Well they fell off, yep, gone just like that
Feeling that I was now no longer informed, I thought it best to add a bunch more stickers so I would feel properly covered with safety, or something like that
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:19:51 PM
Sorry to say it Tate, but the Yukon gear decal suffered a partial failure! I am unsure now about things. I need those stickers to properly orient me and make me feel safe!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:22:35 PM
Needed something to work on so I grabbed a hand full of scrap and threw this together in minutes. THe object was quick, somewhat strong and possibly level, but not necessarily
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:27:13 PM
I agree!
Lets do some foolin around with the design
How about a quick 45 on each panel to separate and break up the aircraft carrier deck appearance
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:28:28 PM
Want a bit more detail?
Let's make another groove!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 12, 2016, 10:29:34 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 12, 2016, 10:40:15 PM
Since you are in the "tucky, it would be more likely that we'd take a 15 gallon rubber maid container full of tannerite and open up the entire side of the building.......
Negative, they have better than tannerite in the tuck......
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 12, 2016, 10:43:13 PM
Post by: JR on April 13, 2016, 12:42:50 AM
They import cheaper as a "KIT" so little things are not put on. Oil is an EPA thing I believe.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 13, 2016, 10:17:57 AM
Yep, but I don't want the black helos flying over my place because I mention ANFOAnd you would
Have black helos and some other colors as well buzzin about!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 13, 2016, 10:20:18 AM
Nice choice on the Champion, hear good things about em. Love the digital read-out. I would change the oil after one day though and add an hour meter.Oil: changed...Check
They import cheaper as a "KIT" so little things are not put on. Oil is an EPA thing I believe.
Digi readout has hour meter as well
Sitting at 5.something after the break-in run yesterday.
Will change oil today with a synthetic and haul it down to the back country
Post by: EL TATE on April 13, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
The Amsoil decal held fast, fighting off the vibration and the sun and the spilled gas. It did OK
Sorry to say it Tate, but the Yukon gear decal suffered a partial failure! I am unsure now about things. I need those stickers to properly orient me and make me feel safe!
Don't worry Don, the sticker is covered under warranty and should only set you back a couple watts of power.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 13, 2016, 10:23:19 AM
Excellent!The Amsoil decal held fast, fighting off the vibration and the sun and the spilled gas. It did OK
Sorry to say it Tate, but the Yukon gear decal suffered a partial failure! I am unsure now about things. I need those stickers to properly orient me and make me feel safe!
Don't worry Don, the sticker is covered under warranty and should only set you back a couple watts of power.
That sticker, btw was part of the package you sent me way back when we did the grizzly and 4.56 gears in C-Max
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Post by: Flyin6 on April 13, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
I thought stickers add power? It does on cars and tool boxes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,No...
That's large diameter tail pipe tips that add the power...Especially on 1300CC Jap kars
But
A 7'-8" tip mounted to a 5+ inch diesel exhaust has been known to add 400-500 horsepower on some applications!
Post by: BobbyB on April 13, 2016, 02:37:47 PM
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Post by: BobbyB on April 13, 2016, 04:24:18 PM
You get that motor yet?
Nope, I'm thinking about selling XJ next month. If I don't then I will snag one.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:05:24 AM
Oh yea well I have a couple stickers on XJ, in addition to the rust, which is a well known weight reduction process. So XJ is a force to be reckoned with.Funny!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:13:38 AM
Had to work my tail off yesterday to get ready.
Check this out. I started my day at 0740 ish with doing things to get ready to go.
The clincher was 1. having to go in and sign paperwork on the GJ, and well, I rode my Tiger over there, so I took a bit longer getting back than I should have. Hey it was a cloudless day and like high 40's and I wasn't going to waste the opportunity.
Sell I finished with painting the shutters. Had to have them all painted up pretty for the haul down today... I started in painting those things around 1900 ish, and it took me to 2354 to finish the job!!!!!!!!!!!! That's around 5 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Detail painting, and to add insult to injury, that was only one coat!
And this morning 0700, back up and at it again!!!!!!!
Insanity!
I had cut the grass as well, which means I had to work on the zero turn. The starter is intermittently inpo, like our congress of 7 years ago, before it failed completely.
First chore after that was: Repair the J-Deere bucket
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:15:13 AM
I cut out the backside and welded the one new and one old piece in from the backside
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:20:14 AM
Next, I am recycling things to reuse down there and make space here at the house.
I have owned this old Husky tool cabinet for decades. Maybe I picked this up in the 1980's???
Anyway a good soaking with detergent then 3200 psi water for awhile out of my equally old pressure washer and it came clean.
Wanting to put a coat of epoxy only on the top to give it a durable surface, I spilled a bit of paint onto the sides...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:25:52 AM
Getting ready to paint it to. Camouflage?? Be the only one to have it!
Probably end up single again if I did!
OK on to the shutters
Paint one side of the boards
Then paint both sides of the steel frame
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:27:40 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 14, 2016, 08:28:46 AM
Post by: stlaser on April 14, 2016, 08:56:37 AM
Post by: OldKooT on April 14, 2016, 06:00:17 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 14, 2016, 06:33:11 PM
Expanded metal & that frame next to nothing, I bet majority is in the wood & all those coats of paint.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 16, 2016, 09:52:30 AM
I'm betting 10# per side maybe 12......Ya maybe a bit more. Maybe 20-25 ea??
Expanded metal & that frame next to nothing, I bet majority is in the wood & all those coats of paint.
BTW. Down in the woods at the moment. Will report tonight. Plenty of WRC (work related carnage)
Post by: Flyin6 on April 16, 2016, 09:54:04 AM
No soup for you... Soup Nazi
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Post by: cudakidd53 on April 16, 2016, 10:25:45 AM
I'm betting 10# per side maybe 12......Ya maybe a bit more. Maybe 20-25 ea??
Expanded metal & that frame next to nothing, I bet majority is in the wood & all those coats of paint.
BTW. Down in the woods at the moment. Will report tonight. Plenty of WRC (work related carnage)
Deere doesn't equal Big Red.......might not be a bad idea to stop trying to break boulders with a framing hammer....just saying!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 16, 2016, 11:27:55 PM
But got a ton of work done down there
Not without some push back, mind you, but The Lord's work will not be stopped. I got a lot done after this!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 16, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Post by: JR on April 17, 2016, 02:32:03 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
First thing I think when seeing that is starting fluid and a match.It came completely off the rim to the inside. Had to pull the wheel, the pry it back over the lip with two old screwdrivers and a ball joint pickle
Read: only things I had at the moment!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:23:23 PM
But I did get a paper towel holder mounted and a welcome mat tossed down!
Well positioned too, I might add!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:24:28 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:29:38 PM
Who'd have thunk it!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:33:44 PM
The fire did bad things to it...unspeakable things...it died and I celebrated. I never had to cut anything...I just kept shoving the fallen parts into the all consuming fire!
While all that was going on, I harvested nine tall cedars, which will be processed to create the posts for the wrap around porch going in soon
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:34:59 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:37:39 PM
But the Amsoil sticker held tough!
Lesson: Buy Amsoil, but not Yukon!!!!!!!!!!
Tate...You there?
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:40:16 PM
Mr. Fire ate well on Saturday!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:43:55 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:47:34 PM
All that cutting, killin' dragging, box scraping, some shootin' and a bunch of sweat cleaned up the A.O pretty well
Post by: Flyin6 on April 17, 2016, 09:49:04 PM
Post by: JR on April 17, 2016, 10:02:14 PM
So Yukon stickers don't and Amsoils do?
Post by: Wilbur on April 17, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
Post by: stlaser on April 17, 2016, 10:22:31 PM
Place is coming around, hard work clearing a place like that but the results are always worth the hard work.
Post by: JR on April 17, 2016, 11:56:33 PM
Harness the flow on one of those and you could run a nice generator off that with a very low profile.
Post by: Dawg25385 on April 18, 2016, 12:03:04 AM
Next we set that brush pile afire...the one I packed in around that awful hedge apple (Osage Orange) chain saw killin plant from the lower places of hell.
The fire did bad things to it...unspeakable things...it died and I celebrated.
Still getting caught up... But this post had me chuckling as I read it :)
Post by: EL TATE on April 18, 2016, 09:02:23 AM
We got up to 25 hours run time on the new gen, so it got its first oil change. I can report a yukon gear sticker failure! Apparently it lifted some and was destroyed!
But the Amsoil sticker held tough!
Lesson: Buy Amsoil, but not Yukon!!!!!!!!!!
Tate...You there?
I will report to engineering immediately to produce a petroleum resistant adhesive to be applied to the next batch of generator proof stickers on your behalf!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 09:43:33 AM
Better make it dirt and dog hair resistant as well! I'm thinking I dropped it in on the driveway, peanut butter side down after I pulled the paper off the adhesive side...maybe...We got up to 25 hours run time on the new gen, so it got its first oil change. I can report a yukon gear sticker failure! Apparently it lifted some and was destroyed!
But the Amsoil sticker held tough!
Lesson: Buy Amsoil, but not Yukon!!!!!!!!!!
Tate...You there?
I will report to engineering immediately to produce a petroleum resistant adhesive to be applied to the next batch of generator proof stickers on your behalf!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 09:45:40 AM
Looks like you still are on fairly high ground form the pics and you still have a couple springs you say?I do have a pond and a well which stays full to a point. More of a "seep" type spring than a "Flow" type I think.
Harness the flow on one of those and you could run a nice generator off that with a very low profile.
But after I get to poking in there with Sarge and an excavator, I might break into an underground sea...! Who knows, this is Kintucky afterall.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
Looks really great! You should place some boulders away from the shed with range distance on them. Just to keep wandering folks guessing.I did range to several spots. Southern approach spot 229 meters...Front gate 190... Lower approach 225 meters...
Post by: Flyin6 on April 18, 2016, 09:49:00 AM
Looks really great! You should place some boulders away from the shed with range distance on them. Just to keep wandering folks guessing.I did range to several spots. Southern approach spot 229 meters...Front gate 190... Lower approach 225 meters...
I get in this tree killin' mood once in awhile...Next we set that brush pile afire...the one I packed in around that awful hedge apple (Osage Orange) chain saw killin plant from the lower places of hell.
The fire did bad things to it...unspeakable things...it died and I celebrated.
Still getting caught up... But this post had me chuckling as I read it :)
Ask Duane about his big ash tree and his Garand...
Funny story right there.
Post by: OldKooT on April 19, 2016, 09:32:50 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 21, 2016, 11:22:30 PM
Funny deal that Osage Orange.... but likely by next spring, it will be sprouted again and looking for revenge LoLI DO NOT DOUBT THAT AT ALL!
I was pushing the still hot ashes around and wham! THe tractor is stopped suddenly
Below the embers, the bucket has hit a big root from that tree and it is intact!
Tannerite or Sarge is next!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 07:36:33 PM
I moved tons of earth and piled it back against the steep bank. The plan is to taper all that out while adding some flat area up on the top side where I will build a big fire pit area.
There is no grading yet, just piling and stacking dirt and rock into the general area
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 07:40:05 PM
Notice how I separated the hillbillies out from "People?"
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 07:41:19 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 07:44:10 PM
I punched a hole in the side of the house to get the wood burning stove out through
About then really big rain drops started falling. We were forecast for severe weather, so I ran like a frightened school girl to the safety of my truck and bailed out!
Post by: JR on April 26, 2016, 08:12:50 PM
Looks like you have quite pile of debris to clear up, more work for the jaws.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 26, 2016, 09:27:00 PM
I bet you were more than tempted to finish it off rather than just a hole.I was thinking of knocking the whole thing down, that's for sure!
Looks like you have quite pile of debris to clear up, more work for the jaws.
Duane later on said I needed to make a vid of that...I agree
But the concept of operation in moving back the wooded area is to clear the area around the structure for the burn. I see it coming right up...Maybe this week or weekend. Then I'll cut a path below the pile of trees I just pushed up, and burn all that as well.
That will finally get me down to the real start point to build in the underground Cistern, put lines and pipes underground, build in a septic and grade everything afterward.
Believe it or not, there is a plan to all this
Post by: KensAuto on April 26, 2016, 10:30:28 PM
That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the hole in the side of the house. lol
Post by: JR on April 26, 2016, 11:01:43 PM
Yep, video or it didn't happen. Got a review on my new Gen coming up, butt I can't find my scale!!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 26, 2016, 11:13:27 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 09:06:10 AM
Looking good Don! I really like that 4 in 1 bucket. I may have to look into that and get rid of the grapple on the front of my bucketThe 4-1 probably doubles the utility of the machine...Wish my loader had one. Think of it as a hand that can pick up trees. You'll need aux hydraulics, a simple kit, and the bucket. Probably under 5K for all
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 09:08:06 AM
With the grade you have there, along with the water just a good leach line should do. Just pointed away from your water!Try to get Duane to vid it, or put the camera on a stick and have it auto snap pics every 10 seconds
Yep, video or it didn't happen. Got a review on my new Gen coming up, butt I can't find my scale!!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 06:22:06 PM
Along with a bunch of one gang boxes. I guess I'll nail that up somewhere so I'll have a target for the underground cable to be installed
Post by: stlaser on April 27, 2016, 07:59:03 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 27, 2016, 08:03:04 PM
You already have the meter box mounted to something you aren't planning on or have already destroyed? Partially or otherwise.....That was one of the first things we blasted apart! It has been hit by so many 9mm rounds and 12 gage, and 5.56, some 7.62, a bunch of .22 and on and on.
It's more scrap copper and brass at this point than anything else!
Post by: stlaser on April 27, 2016, 08:36:02 PM
Post by: Bob Smith on April 27, 2016, 08:59:17 PM
Post by: KensAuto on April 27, 2016, 11:25:21 PM
I was supposed to try and start Square D today....
I think this is what you meant to type. :)
Post by: stlaser on April 27, 2016, 11:48:35 PM
It's ok, oldkoot & I decided we're gunna start a raffle. $5 buys you a weeks time frame. You pick whatever week you like & if Big D gets it running in your week you win. Of course Don is not allowed to know who has what week etc mainly because he'd make sure we all lost....... Now by chance if he gets it running in a week no one claims then I think we'll have to donate to Riley's Children Hospital or another great cause you get the idea. At this rate the pot will grow into the thousands before he decides to touch it!
Post by: rpar86 on April 28, 2016, 01:10:45 AM
I'll be honest, I skim read sq d & thought he actually did something with it. Then I re read it & realized what he had done by referencing sq d electrical crap....... Boo boo boo!!
It's ok, oldkoot & I decided we're gunna start a raffle. $5 buys you a weeks time frame. You pick whatever week you like & if Big D gets it running in your week you win. Of course Don is not allowed to know who has what week etc mainly because he'd make sure we all lost....... Now by chance if he gets it running in a week no one claims then I think we'll have to donate to Riley's Children Hospital or another great cause you get the idea. At this rate the pot will grow into the thousands before he decides to touch it!
Well at least there's something out at the farm by the name of Square D. :o
Post by: Flyin6 on April 28, 2016, 08:15:45 AM
Ok, so you bought a meter base not a breaker panel.No, I purchased a breaker panel.
And a bunch of nail in receptacle and switch boxes.
Figure I'll nail them in where I want things, then pull wire.
And yes, Duane will be about to check it all out...
Although after wiring the that grand garage Ma-Hall of his, he was showing me, threw a switch and "Pow" a shower of sparks...
So he has not reached wizard status quite yet
Oh and square D time was eaten up by a hair cut, chain saw chain sharpening and sawmill shopping!
Post by: KensAuto on April 28, 2016, 09:18:29 AM
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Post by: JR on April 29, 2016, 02:52:21 AM
Sparks? do tell
Post by: Flyin6 on April 29, 2016, 07:43:09 AM
Well, at least he mentioned SD,,,,,,,,,,,,No real story
Sparks? do tell
He wired the thing
threw the switch
and Bang
Probably the only thing I ever saw him do incorrectly.
Now his daughter, driving off in a creek in his sequoia, that's a different story!
Post by: JR on April 29, 2016, 10:18:12 AM
Well, at least he mentioned SD,,,,,,,,,,,,No real story
Sparks? do tell
He wired the thing
threw the switch
and Bang
Probably the only thing I ever saw him do incorrectly.
Now his daughter, driving off in a creek in his sequoia, that's a different story!
We still need pics,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,of BOTH!!!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 29, 2016, 10:27:02 PM
Have been working legal issues.
If you buy way rural land, expect folks to know you are coming. Further, expect them to resist your coming. People like things as they are and always have been and do not like change. I think that becomes a real consideration when buying land that has been in a family for generations. In my case the locals have not warmly received me, and some are actively resisting my being there. One hired an attorney to keep me off his farm, which I need to cross to gain access to mine.
I have a Kentucky prescriptive easement, but that will not prevent people from getting silly, protective and over reacting. I had to hire an attorney and will now have to sac valuable $$$ on defending what is legally mine.
So that has kept me occupied for a bit this week. Other than that I moved some more dirt, fixed the loader, pushed back the woods on the western side, and went active solving the water problem.
Much the same as one might homestead anywhere, you start at a rudimentary point and expand the capabilities of the place to sustain you. I am doing the same thing here. At first I had only the land. Then I started reclaiming it. Then with a camper down there I could at least stay dry. I added power via a generator, the added a shed. THe latter will grow into a camper support facility with storage, a shop to fix and build things, a laundry, frig and more room in case we want to crash out entirely in the top floor.
I am at the point now where I need to add water and then electricity. To start with I will have the simple water trailer I mentioned. I purchased a 210 gal plastic pickup bed tank that absolutely looks lost in the expansive Armee trailer. I might take it back and upgrade to the 325 gallon unit. That setup is complimented with a 12 volt water pump and some hose. With this I can refill the camper 50 gallon water tank whenever and have water to mix concrete with.
All the time we are getting healthier and better situated down there. I'l post pics tomorrow of the water trailer setup
Post by: JR on April 30, 2016, 03:01:32 AM
Be sure to include collecting for your legal fees in a counter suit, but any good attorney should know that.
Good luck and prayers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Yep, those portable liquid skids are handy and stout.
Post by: Bob Smith on April 30, 2016, 09:27:20 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 09:53:39 AM
Don, did you buy title insurance when you bought the farm?Yes, sure did
It is not an issue really
The nature of folks as I have learned is that they complain a lot but not a lot of fight in them really. 3.5% of the population fought in the revolutionary war...and all that
Most people will not stand up for the real fight or stand after the enemy shows up. I, however will. Start it and although I have no wish nor desire, I'll jock up and finish it.
Once these people see you are willing to throw your money and theirs into a courtroom, they back down.
I add to that the human element. I like to fact them from about three feet.
1. Shows them my resolve
2. Shows them I do not fear them, nor this show of strength
3. Allows them to see "Me," a guy who will not hurt them, but could be a good neighbor.
I did all that and hired two attorneys. One failed to do his job, but my second is no such slacker. Neither is he a big bully. A softer spoken man, he is simply technically correct and studied at all he does. Couple that with a wisdom beyond his age and I have the right man for the job.
in the end I will actually own the offending farms, as my plans has me expanding to 450+ acres, but for now I'm just fine.
Post by: JR on April 30, 2016, 12:17:07 PM
Rifleman quote; "Don't go looking for a fight, but never run from one either"
Post by: KensAuto on April 30, 2016, 03:25:03 PM
...or maybe I'm the "too cautious" type.
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
I don't say anything here I would not say to anyone's face there or otherwise.
OK, so I think I solved the temporary water problem and advanced the hide to the next level.
Over the past two days, I have shopped and purchased a couple of water tanks and after returning one, have the right one in my possession
I picked the tanks up at TSC (tractor Supply Company)
They had a decent selection of poly tanks designed specifically for water storage.
The largest the carry is this 1550 gal tank for $800
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:17:29 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:18:47 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:20:11 PM
After a night of thinking about it, I concluded it was just too small so I took it back for a larger tank
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:22:04 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:26:26 PM
I had paid $249 for the 210 gallon tank, but the larger 325 gallon tank rung up at only $229! I got money refunded to me along with the larger and better fitting water tank!
This tank is only a transfer tank. I'll use it to refill the Camper's 50-60 gallon tank and for construction needs. Heck, I might get crazy and wash the tractor, but don't hold your breath, as I have never washed the or any tractor (I think??)
To that end, I'll be using a 12 volt transfer pump. This little guy will move 450 an hour and run off a jumper cable.
It was also marked down from $119 to $99!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 05:30:10 PM
With the infrastructure going in now, and the digging of holes. It is suddenly to start burying things like electrical lines, water lines, and a cistern. With the coming cistern and water power to operate a pump, showers are all but here!
I'm thinking I'm taking a camper or a bucket shower for a lot of the summer...
I think I'll set my target date for a heated indoor shower for this coming fall, say, October.
Post by: KensAuto on April 30, 2016, 07:29:34 PM
Post by: JR on April 30, 2016, 08:03:01 PM
And what is wrong with a long shower now and then??
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 09:14:25 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 09:17:43 PM
Then three more 1000 lb straps secure the tank to the super strong floor mounted tie down rings.
I love this trailer. I'm going to get another one!
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 09:21:17 PM
The tarp is zip tied to the tie down loops but the corner adjacent to the filler lid is bungeed (Is that a word??) in place
Post by: Flyin6 on April 30, 2016, 09:23:06 PM
It was raining outside and I was messing with water as well, so I decided to wash the Ranger. He was a trooper, and just stood there and let me do my business!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on April 30, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Post by: JR on May 01, 2016, 12:21:36 AM
I have been thinking about making soft tops for my trailers.
Just a rail on the edge with posts welded on. Bend some 3/4 conduit that plugs into them and tarp over the top. Easy on, easy off and protects whats inside. Getting a custom cover shouldn't be very pricey either.
Post by: BobbyB on May 01, 2016, 09:00:01 AM
Post by: stlaser on May 01, 2016, 09:06:30 AM
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 01, 2016, 09:47:01 AM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Dustoff35 on May 01, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
No real story
He wired the thing
threw the switch
and Bang
Probably the only thing I ever saw him do incorrectly.
Now his daughter, driving off in a creek in his sequoia, that's a different story!
I don't remember that...
I do remember two times sparks flew at your casa, though. Once while trying to address the poorly installed 50A 220v (welder/compressor) outlet in your garage; I still don't know how that passed inspection...
The other time was trying to configure the wiring on your present compressor; that was another PIA!
Post by: Flyin6 on May 01, 2016, 05:02:04 PM
Still leaving loose straps just hanging in the breeze huh?? For shame!I need a good NCO to inspect my work!
Post by: Flyin6 on May 01, 2016, 05:02:41 PM
One thought, as you start burying stuff (lines etc) make yourself a good map. Plot locations etc as well as depths of lines (try to stay consistent on depth too). Just a good business practice for future additions......Wilco!
Plus I take lots of pics so I can reference things in the future.
Post by: OldKooT on May 03, 2016, 08:17:43 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 03, 2016, 09:31:51 AM
Wow you tied that tank down LoL Around here we just toss em in the pickup and use water to hold them in...or roundup or whatever is in the tank. All this talk about water.... no plans for a well?Already have one!
But
UK says not to rely on it unless you are filtering.
Seems an aquifer will run clean for 100 years, then "Rust through" a layer of limestone, and mix with some some of Tennessee's nuclear waste, then some house will fall into the sink hole that made five years later, and the thing will go clean again.
So until someone's house gets swallowed up, we never know whether to trust the water or not...Pastor just called, gotta go to church...emergency meetin' of some kind!...
Post by: OldKooT on May 03, 2016, 12:49:34 PM
Post by: JR on May 03, 2016, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 03, 2016, 03:56:55 PM
Hmm, 100 years sounds good to me.Yea, but you could be on the last year of that 100 year cycle...and to clarify, they actually say the water will run clean then sour on 20-25 year cycles, as ground water dissolves various stratum of limestone.
The limestone here is deep. The geological base is called the Hermitage dome I believe which is thousands of feet thick. The road rock around here is now mined from mines some 900 feet deep. Has a gray(er) color than the traditional whiter limestone.
In an emergency I have that very old well (150+ years?) a pond, and a few seasonal to full time springs. So in extremis, water is not the big issue...Storing it presents a larger issue at the moment.
Post by: JR on May 03, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
A couple more tanks and your water on hand keeps em topped off. We don't need that much really, but crops and animals do.
Filters in 5 gal buckets, easy to move and maintain
Post by: JR on May 03, 2016, 08:06:10 PM
Today being partly cloudy it has still made over 15k and I loose the sun around 1700.
If you did a similar system (about 7-8K cost-DIY) you would be fine forever. You could make a smaller system too and have it follow the sun making it way more eff.
My new 4000watt system will double may output and work later giving me full advantage of light. Plus it has a 1500 watt 110 plug when grid is down.
This was Aprils output;
Post by: Flyin6 on May 03, 2016, 09:33:24 PM
Odd how things all sort of come together.
I went to a benefit dinner at a nearby country club last weekend.
The couple I was sitting with wife worked with my wife. Her husband is a solar energy engineer. We were chatting about my hide/farm and he offered to design up a system for me. His company uses top quality stuff, and I want to say 325 watt panels. Anyway, when I get to that point, I planned to set up the solar power with a battery bank first, chase that with a wood boiler unit which I plan to build myself, and finish it off with the tower/windmill.
I am setting my system up to be connected to the grid, however able to go fully independent. I figure it will sell energy to the power company since I am not there full time, then use it exclusively when I am there to sort of prove the concept.
Part of what I am doing down there is building a training lab as well as driving my stake in the ground. Once on the property, everything you see, touch, hear, or smell will be chosen, designed, placed, and thought out from a survival perspective so that one is immersed into a functioning survival system and learning environment.
Post by: Wilbur on May 03, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
Post by: JR on May 04, 2016, 02:36:46 AM
A system that charges your batteries normally does not produce power to sell back. If I wanted a basic battery system for a few days I would use cart batteries, for long term demand off grid, forklift. 10 good cart batteries will run about the same as a forklift battery and will give you much more in the long run.
DIY is the only way to go, about 1/3 the price. My installed 4000 watt system was 18k. My DIY system is about 5k.
Stationary systems are good, but one that follows the sun will yeild so much more for the sf.
Post by: Flyin6 on May 04, 2016, 07:56:33 AM
When I get to that point...Late summer...Fall?? We'll start a new green energy section. Of course, being a Kentuckian, it will feature an equal number of threads and information on the benefits of coal and nuclear power. Especially the type of nuclear power that manifests instantly, say over places like Tehran and other places like that!
Post by: JR on May 04, 2016, 10:39:20 AM
The word green is to PC and there is so much tech behind it all, JMHO.
Post by: Flyin6 on May 04, 2016, 11:24:42 AM
Maybe "alternate energy"or "off grid" would fit better there.Copy
The word green is to PC and there is so much tech behind it all, JMHO.
I don't like "Green" either, unless talking shades of camo!
Post by: OldKooT on May 04, 2016, 12:09:29 PM
In the barn I have a Kholer light plant, it was used along with glass jar batteries to power the family farm from 1928-1953 when they finally got grid power. It was used in the blizzard of 1976 as well as other times when grid power went down...but from 28-53 it was the sole source of electricity.
It runs on Kero (nosily) gas, ethanol, propane, nat gas and all have been used over it's lifespan. It ran on grain alcohol during most of WW2 as an example. This thing has never been rebuilt, starts automatically under load, and sips fuel compared to modern gen sets. Since it's water cooled, it's also been used to heat water for bathing and other uses in it's tenure as well. The batteries in glass jars are extremely rebuild able, use common easily acquired stuff, and are reliable....
This is my approach, yes it's very low tech. A buried *hidden 2000gal propane tank, add the little light plant and you have a very flexible system of power generation that's not obvious, rather robust, and didn't cost hardly anything. I can now make power, heat water, and so much more....for decades if required. After all....it's done it before.
That said... that's just my approach. I can see very little need for electricity most days in a "situation" such as many are preparing for. Again this is just my opinion....I feel there are many viable approaches...but I start to wonder, if the grids down, why do you need power?
Post by: Wilbur on May 04, 2016, 12:57:41 PM
Maybe residential systems are not large enough to sell the electricity from batteries I don't know. ???
Post by: JR on May 04, 2016, 02:59:05 PM
I like your setup Norm and another reason I have hinted to Don about hydro off and on. Maybe a small steam gen could work too as there is a little coal in KY.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on May 06, 2016, 06:36:40 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 06, 2016, 09:18:02 PM
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Post by: JR on May 06, 2016, 10:18:54 PM
More prayers.
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 07, 2016, 12:29:34 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 07, 2016, 04:14:19 PM
Condolences, Don! That's terrible. Prayers to you and your family. What happened?I dropped a large log and he ran under it the moment I released it.
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It was an accident
But it was my fault
Post by: Bigdave_185 on May 07, 2016, 04:16:03 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on May 07, 2016, 04:23:59 PM
Hope the boys and momma ok?We are currently a wreck to put it mildly.
Raising boys into RealMen!!
So let me say it was very kind for all of you to say something, I really appreciate it, and all of you.
This is a hard one for me.
So I'm not going to talk about it anymore.
Feels like losing a soldier...
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Post by: fenriswolf039 on May 07, 2016, 04:56:47 PM
You've done right by him, giving him a good vantage point on the property. He will be on eternal patrol.
May God's peace be with you.
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 09, 2016, 09:28:53 AM
Getting on with it. Range was a great dog and good friend, I will miss him. But life is short, time to get back at it...
Thanks again all...It was a tough weekend
Post by: Nate on May 09, 2016, 11:43:32 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 09, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
so when are you going to show us the installed privy?!After Duane gets down there and digs the hole he promised!
Post by: Flyin6 on May 10, 2016, 10:34:56 AM
The 325 gal tank and 12VDC pump to which I added a heavy duty RV water filter and a length of potable water hose
Post by: Flyin6 on May 10, 2016, 10:37:11 AM
The plan is to open up the area between where the building is now and an adjacent field
Post by: Flyin6 on May 10, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
This was taken minutes before the accident.
The next day the boys took a hatchet and hacked that log to pieces...They were venting their anger and frustration.
I'll never use that one, nope, we plan to burn it!
This was pretty much all I got done except for creating the grave the next day...
Post by: Nate on May 10, 2016, 06:32:30 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 10, 2016, 06:33:27 PM
did you center that tank over the axle or is it more towards the front with a majority on the tongue?I slid it in to the front until it stopped, then strapped it down
Post by: cruizng on May 11, 2016, 08:36:07 AM
I buried him on the hill overlooking the whole farm...Right beside the fire pit. He is free to roam wherever he wants to now.
So sorry to hear about your loss. They are man's best friend. Prayers sent for you and your family.
Post by: Flyin6 on May 11, 2016, 09:36:22 AM
I buried him on the hill overlooking the whole farm...Right beside the fire pit. He is free to roam wherever he wants to now.
So sorry to hear about your loss. They are man's best friend. Prayers sent for you and your family.
Thank You
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 08:42:38 AM
No need to reply, I'm late to hearing the news. But have to say so sorry to hear about Ranger. Prayers sentThank You
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Post by: Tommy13 on May 12, 2016, 09:37:32 AM
It always hurts to lose a buddy. Praying for God's peace in your family's life right now. Peace be with you brother.
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 10:36:26 AM
Don,Thanks
It always hurts to lose a buddy. Praying for God's peace in your family's life right now. Peace be with you brother.
Post by: JR on May 12, 2016, 10:50:49 AM
What other land are you looking at, I guess the yellow lines are boundries and north is up?
Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
That is a nice shot Don and gives a better perspective when you do describe how big it is.North is up, correct
What other land are you looking at, I guess the yellow lines are boundries and north is up?
I am looking at acquiring all the plots around me, 450 total acres
Post by: KensAuto on May 12, 2016, 12:02:03 PM
I would assume the north neighbor is your ingress? man, that guy owns a chunk as well.
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 01:48:11 PM
Nice chunk of property Don! Ive been looking and often thought, can't hillbillies measure 90 degrees square?Not back in the early 1800's when those properties were divided up. Mine was an old Amish farm
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 12, 2016, 02:20:33 PM
I just want to see he day when SD gets to play there.:-))
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2016, 08:23:23 PM
Now that I have water and the generator thing is working fine, I am spending days at a time down there building stuff, cutting down things, smashing holes in things and generally speaking breaking something I own about every day!
So, It's been raining and that means things have been growing. Grass gets mowed 2X a week in the May and the June. Down, farmside it is developing into a jungle once more
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Look at the mess I had to get through:
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I checked the sharpness on my left thumb. The blade cut right through about a 1/4 inch and even cauterized the wound as it passed through. I smelt me burning before I realized I was leakin'
I then went off happily mowing locust trees, rocks, stumps, and even mowed the old Husky chain saw a second time!
Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2016, 08:34:37 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2016, 08:38:54 PM
First we hung the final ten joists. I created a cool little holder for the joists, that the Pre-Rangers could easily maneuver into place whilst I nailed em' home.
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Next up is to frame in a bathroom, then start to rough in the electricity
Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2016, 08:47:54 PM
I have it home already. I'll pressure wash it, go over it end to end, then paint it prior to taking it back to install in the shop area.
Anyone know any good wood stove paint or coating? I'd like to paint that sucker bright red with a white "C" on the side to honor the Cincinnati Reds, our nations first professional baseball team!
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 25, 2016, 09:38:27 PM
Too little, too late but... why didn't you slide the plywood in between the joists and the knee bangers (the 2x6 wall ties) from the floor below before putting the last few joists in? Then you wouldn't have had to wrangle it up the stairs. :oPushing the plywood up and over the 2 X 6's required too high of a push. If they weren't in there I would have done it the old fashioned way.
As it was, I got a great workout doing something like a clean and jerk and a military press.
Post by: KensAuto on May 25, 2016, 09:41:25 PM
Oh, and remind me to never loan you any equipment! haha
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Post by: stlaser on May 25, 2016, 11:57:19 PM
Wow. I've never been to a place that grows green stuff that fast. It looks like the rv has been there for years!
Oh, and remind me to never loan you any equipment! haha
I think Don heard about how hard Norm is on equipment & is trying to gain the title.....
Post by: Flyin6 on May 26, 2016, 08:19:53 AM
Wow. I've never been to a place that grows green stuff that fast. It looks like the rv has been there for years!I think if you look at the futurist's models for changing weather patterns, the left side of the country dries up completely, Vegas is the first major city in the world to be abandoned, and the Kentucky is just about dead center in the most fertile in terms of rainfall and available water left in the states.
Oh, and remind me to never loan you any equipment! haha
I saw that once, don't know if if holds any truth, of course...
But I can say whatever you plan for May and June, you pretty much need to forget about. Things grow like crazy for those two months then settle down. To keep your fields OK, you need to hay them off in late May, then in early July and again in early/mid October.
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Post by: BobbyB on May 26, 2016, 12:13:04 PM
...or fence it off and get some beefs.
Name them Steak and Burger?
Post by: Flyin6 on May 26, 2016, 02:38:03 PM
Could be a source of income, letting someone like minded cut and roll the farm for you. You could use the money to stock the PLL and POL.Funny thing about that
Seems the I want it easy and given to me cult or generation has strong ties in that part of the Tucky. I have offered farmers to hay off my fields for free, and ...NADA!
Not charging them or taking a percentage, no just giving them 30-40 acres of hay and the response was not one single person willing to do anything.
I will have some critters at some point. Likely fish before chickens, but will have both. Already have white tailed antlered deer-cows, but would be nice to have some dairy or beef cattle someday too
Post by: Flyin6 on May 26, 2016, 02:40:41 PM
Purchased two new bush hog blades and three new mower blades
I was out of the door for $153.
Now, I've read the bush hog blades are torqued onto the hub with, get this...728 ft/lbs!
Might be a bit of a challenge getting that mess loosened up. I'm thinking PB blaster and a new 3/4" impact wrench. Nut size is 1.5"
Post by: BobbyB on May 26, 2016, 02:51:41 PM
So, I got lucky on the replacement blades.
Purchased two new bush hog blades and three new mower blades
I was out of the door for $153.
Now, I've read the bush hog blades are torqued onto the hub with, get this...728 ft/lbs!
Might be a bit of a challenge getting that mess loosened up. I'm thinking PB blaster and a new 3/4" impact wrench. Nut size is 1.5"
Time to limber up and hope the time you spent working out with that "horrible" mean physical trainer lady pays off!
Post by: JR on May 26, 2016, 03:56:56 PM
Is it me or does the younger pre ranger look like you? Maybe the older can start mowing for you?
Maybe spray under the trailer before the grow next year, a lot less work than getting under there.
Upstairs looks good and I like the stove.
Post by: Flyin6 on May 26, 2016, 04:14:54 PM
man, you are ruff on stuff. Bet that had you jumping in your seat too. We had what I think was called a hammer mower when I did that. Handled rocks better but lots of little blades to change.I ordered five cans of ceramic stove paint today. Thought it was going to be red, but it's gonna be green!
Is it me or does the younger pre ranger look like you? Maybe the older can start mowing for you?
Maybe spray under the trailer before the grow next year, a lot less work than getting under there.
Upstairs looks good and I like the stove.
Post by: KensAuto on May 26, 2016, 04:45:33 PM
Post by: Nate on May 26, 2016, 04:52:21 PM
http://haynearyou.com/g/ky/verona/hay-for-sale
Post by: Flyin6 on May 26, 2016, 08:29:58 PM
take a look at this here site don, you may be able to work out some sort of a deal...........?Interesting find Nate...But farm is no where near Verona...
http://haynearyou.com/g/ky/verona/hay-for-sale
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Post by: rpar86 on May 27, 2016, 11:31:33 PM
You must have your local Deere parts dept on speed dial!They see his name on caller ID and have his account already pulled up on screen! Probably have his CC on file, too!
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Post by: Flyin6 on May 28, 2016, 10:42:09 AM
John Deere stuff is expensive!You must have your local Deere parts dept on speed dial!They see his name on caller ID and have his account already pulled up on screen! Probably have his CC on file, too!
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Something about that green paint I think.
I actually came across a great investment
Mint condition one ounce bars of John Deere green paint.
I think they are pure 99.999% pure green paint all the way through. Their value is practically priceless!
Another guy is selling some doggy droppings (Out of the tail pipe variety). HE has coated them with the John Deere green paint with some yellow highlights. Going for $100 each! I'm trying to get some!
That green paint...
Post by: JR on May 28, 2016, 02:28:21 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on May 31, 2016, 10:46:54 PM
Mission #1 was to get the bush hog blades changed out, so I started the 5500 Generec, plugged in the compressor, and it made a popping sound and started blowing smoke. The post fire inspection revealed one of the two capacitors had literally blown and shucked it's case oil all over the place.
OK, still had two hours until the TSC store 35 miles away closed So it was off to the races.
I used the wife's GJ to carry home a new Porter Cable twin cylinder 20 gal unit.
Fired that sucker up and plugged in the new 3/4" air impact wrench...and nada. I hammered on that bolt for a long time and finally realized it wasn't going to budge. So I soaked it down with penetrating oil and went off to eat some shrimp on the barbie.
The next morning the oil had done it's magic and in 20 minutes I had the new blades installed. Off to bush hogging I went. Got a field done and a bunch of new stuff cut back.
Next I pulled out Sarge and started working on the banks either side of the road. I got most of it all done when I noticed the bucket would only come up about half way then stall out.
The hydraulic oil was hot, but the converter and trans temperatures were dead center-green normal. SO I parked that, but not until I leveled a suspicious looking mound near the well.
I had feared that mound might be a burial site, but finally decided it was probably the dirt and rock pulled out of the well hole. After I got into it, I discovered some unusual grayish clay I haven't seen, so I figured that came from the well.
Now, why haven't I seen that before?? I got to investigating that well, and HOLY CRAP! That thing is DEEP! I mean it's DEEP. I'm estimating it's somewhere between 30-40 feet, as after clearing the honey suckle, I can see all the way down to something I think is an old cover. I drop a stone and it falls for awhile then "ker-plunk," it hits the water.
Now this thing is maybe three feet in diameter and lined with hewn stone all the way down. Some maniac actually climbed down all that way and dug that! Well, friends and family, I am not going to let all that labor go to waste. I'll figure out how to clean it without taking a long trip down, then set it up with some solar powered well pump and pump all that business into a collection tank.
Later on I got back to bush hogging and felling trees. It was slow going and really taxing my 66HP J Deere. So much so, I look down and see the engine temp gage in the mid red and all manner of red lights flashing. Well, I shut it down and checked only to find the radiator just packed with grass seed and dust. I cleaned it all up and went to restart and nothing...
It cranks but it won't start. Doesn't even sputter.
I have to say, I am getting a little tired of this John Deere junk! I have had very few work days where that machine made it all the way to COB without springing a leak, a tire popping off, a line blowing apart, springing a leak, having something shoved through something vital, a 3 point arm falling off (That happened today again) or some major sub assemble breaking off.
And now for the first time ever it just refuses to start, so i left it. Odd thing. All this happened when I was driving past that suspicious mound. And that's where it sits now! I threw in the towel and called it a day, I left it there.
Post by: JR on May 31, 2016, 11:33:22 PM
I like the idea of a solar pump. In fact I just lent my neighbor a little HF 12v to drain his AG pool. Just the 1/2 hose moved lots of water.
There you go blaming the machines you abuse. But I agree, something breaking everyday is not right. Probably start fine in the morning, er next week. But whats up with sarge?
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 01, 2016, 01:36:44 PM
Well, nice find on the "well" LOL. That may solve all the water issues you keep bringing up as now you have a source.With Sarge, I don't know
I like the idea of a solar pump. In fact I just lent my neighbor a little HF 12v to drain his AG pool. Just the 1/2 hose moved lots of water.
There you go blaming the machines you abuse. But I agree, something breaking everyday is not right. Probably start fine in the morning, er next week. But whats up with sarge?
What makes sense is a low hydraulic fluid level. I may not have poured enough into that vast tank. Problem is the sight glass windows used to check the levels are all clouded up and unusable.
I'm going to measure and mark a stick to check the fluid level to solve that problem until I can replace those unsightly
( ;-) ) sight glasses.
The other thing is a bad charge pump. That thing has been making a singing sound which in the hydraulic world is not a good sound. If it is going bad, then I'll have to pull it and have it rebuilt.
Could be something simple like a linkage coming loose or a snake tangled up in the manifold (again)...dunno.
All I know is that no matter how hard the devil tries, all he can destroy is my physical being. My spirit is God's alone and we already know who wins the final battle...
Moral of the story: Its all good!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 01, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
Hey Don, maybe the fuel got hot enough to "gas out'. bleeding it should get her going again.Ken, Could be. It was very hot, and the clogged air cleaner light was on too!
I did a fault code dump.
It showed codes 04, 79, 81, 82, 84
That's for a 2012 JD 4720 tractor if anyone can decode that, I'm working on it.
Code 79 in other JD Tractors means it's out of fuel. I had topped the tank off 15 minutes earlier, that's not it.
But one of the codes, I think, means fuel too hot! Logic being that fuel that is too hot will not properly lubricate the injection pump, so the ECU shuts down the engine...
Did I mention it was pretty hot?
Post by: Flyin6 on June 01, 2016, 01:51:22 PM
Don, pull some samples from the well & have it tested. I think that would be the first step, our pond well at last place that was drilled 50' into bedrock we tested it yearly. Hot tub chemicals usually did the trick to kill what little bacteria was in it.Going to Shawn.
Here's my pleminary plan:
Pull water samples and check for depth of the water.
Assuming it isn't a breeding pool for Ebola, next clear out around the opening. THen use a grapple hook to fish out whatever is down there...hoping not to find any bodies!
Next, I am going to build a partition around it out of 6X6 PT posts laid flat and bolted together that will have a halo for a pulley/bucket and a place to mount electrical/mechanicals.
Next install a several thousand gallon holding tank beside it, install the well pump and plumbing and a solar/battery array.
I'll coarse filter the water going into the tank and then run the output through a potable filtered and a non potable outlet for tractor washing, critter cleanin' and generally makin' a mess of things.
That should do that for the interim. Later I can run a 3/4" pipe up to the casa to be able to scrub up the body parts after covering myself with dirt, dust and dirt, along with ticks, chiggers, and more dust...
Post by: Flyin6 on June 01, 2016, 02:51:47 PM
Code 79 is: engine hours not reporting or hobbs hours mismatch
Code 04: engine speed information missing
Code 81: Engine speed information missing
Code 84: Engine coolant hot
Code: 82: Not known yet...
Codes 79, 04, and 81 seem to point to a cam or crank sensor that broke, failed, or came unplugged!!!
So I'm getting J Deere to come have a look, and I'll change the oil and coolant again and start new again...hopefully
Now, why does the loader not raise up on Sarge???
Post by: EL TATE on June 01, 2016, 06:08:21 PM
Post by: cj7ox on June 02, 2016, 04:13:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGrC0KicSo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGrC0KicSo)
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 02, 2016, 10:45:41 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
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Post by: cj7ox on June 03, 2016, 10:26:03 AM
Oh man that's great^^
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Corb Lund is great. Here's one of my favorites (yes, I'm a Cavalryman):
I Wanna Be In the Cavalry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1V3JW4HeBs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1V3JW4HeBs)
Post by: Nate on June 03, 2016, 12:06:43 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 03, 2016, 12:27:06 PM
don, how is the ranger memorial site lookin these days?Needs some work Nate
I have a lot of excavation to do around it so I am not going too far right now. Have flowers in and the big rocks, but the rock surround will come after some leveling and after I bury the electrical line
Post by: Flyin6 on June 07, 2016, 09:28:00 PM
Going to get a roll back and get it hauled to the dealership tomorrow
Post by: Flyin6 on June 07, 2016, 09:28:45 PM
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Look how well concealed this well is. Step in the hole and it's a long way until sudden stoppage
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Next up was the repair of several cracks in the front
Post by: Flyin6 on June 07, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
This thing is really heavy!
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Post by: KensAuto on June 07, 2016, 10:30:10 PM
...lucky no one took the plunge, although I bet there would be a JD in the bottom if you could make it fit!
Post by: Sammconn on June 07, 2016, 10:36:00 PM
And I agree with Ken, if it would only fit..
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 07, 2016, 11:35:22 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
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Post by: JR on June 08, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
Love those old stoves, maybe I'll get one for upatairs and it would keep the coffee warm.
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:42:25 AM
How in the heck did you know that well was where it was? WowI drove over top of it and the tractor tire plunged in!
...lucky no one took the plunge, although I bet there would be a JD in the bottom if you could make it fit!
Now it is a curious design, more of a bottle shape. The top tapers, then curves into a smaller opening with hewn stone arranged around like the capital dome. Neat ancient engineering in that thing.
So I was peering down there yesterday while the John Deere guy was loading up the 4720. There is movement down there!
Like I hope that is water trickling or flowing and not some Loch Ness creature or a pit of snakes? Whatever it is, I'm going to be finding out PDQ. Since it's discovery, I an accelerating the building of some structure over it to both protect it and to develop it as a drinking water source.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:44:15 AM
I missed something. I thought your JD equipment was down and out? But you moved the stove with a green tractor? How many front bucket tractors from JD do you ownI own two JD tractors
Raising boys into RealMen!!
A 4720 and a 1025
The little guy moves the ever dangerous mulch and heavy wood burning stoves around and the big one breaks down. That, in retrospect, seems to be their actual purposes
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:44:54 AM
nice attempt on repair of that stove, boy that thing is in some really rough shape still..........YESSIR it is, but it'll make heat in about 5 months!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:48:39 AM
Mowed the two front fields, arranged tools on one of the peg boards, got the 4720 towed back to the shop, and did about a hundred other small things.
CudaKidd553 is showing up tomorrow for a couple days. We will be camping out and shooting down there. He is on some KY bourbon tour which includes some shootin' up Don's farm...
I'd like to offer an open invitation to all my friends and even the DOTs (Which for some reason are also my friends) to come down and visit if they are in the A.O.
Post by: cj7ox on June 09, 2016, 11:31:16 AM
So, got another work day in yestertag.
Mowed the two front fields, arranged tools on one of the peg boards, got the 4720 towed back to the shop, and did about a hundred other small things.
CudaKidd553 is showing up tomorrow for a couple days. We will be camping out and shooting down there. He is on some KY bourbon tour which includes some shootin' up Don's farm...
I'd like to offer an open invitation to all my friends and even the DOTs (Which for some reason are also my friends) to come down and visit if they are in the A.O.
Wish I had the time to come to the Tuck for the weekend! It would be great to hang with some RMTS folks in person. Hope you guys have a good time!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
We've talked about this, but we might need to have the first annual RMTWS camp and shoot about soon.So, got another work day in yestertag.
Mowed the two front fields, arranged tools on one of the peg boards, got the 4720 towed back to the shop, and did about a hundred other small things.
CudaKidd553 is showing up tomorrow for a couple days. We will be camping out and shooting down there. He is on some KY bourbon tour which includes some shootin' up Don's farm...
I'd like to offer an open invitation to all my friends and even the DOTs (Which for some reason are also my friends) to come down and visit if they are in the A.O.
Wish I had the time to come to the Tuck for the weekend! It would be great to hang with some RMTS folks in person. Hope you guys have a good time!
Charge $1000 a person
Soldiers, Police, and patriots enjoy free admission of course. We'll let the confused fence straddlers pay for the burgers and ammo!
Post by: moto123 on June 09, 2016, 12:28:39 PM
So, got another work day in yestertag.That's an awfully gracious invitation for those of us you haven't actually met yet. For all you know, we could bring a whole bus of Hillary supporters. Or is that someone else's job that always gets targeted for hillary jokes?
Mowed the two front fields, arranged tools on one of the peg boards, got the 4720 towed back to the shop, and did about a hundred other small things.
CudaKidd553 is showing up tomorrow for a couple days. We will be camping out and shooting down there. He is on some KY bourbon tour which includes some shootin' up Don's farm...
I'd like to offer an open invitation to all my friends and even the DOTs (Which for some reason are also my friends) to come down and visit if they are in the A.O.
I am about 9 hours away thou which makes it close enough to dream about but far enough to not be a realistic drive with a 5 year old. Hope you all have a good time!
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Post by: stlaser on June 09, 2016, 02:19:39 PM
Post by: cruizng on June 09, 2016, 02:21:42 PM
Post by: OldKooT on June 09, 2016, 02:34:57 PM
That wells rather cool....be interesting to see how that develops.
So wait.... you have two lawn mowers with bucket attachments?? I missed that somehow...
Post by: KensAuto on June 09, 2016, 02:48:11 PM
So wait.... you have two lawn mowers with bucket attachments?? I missed that somehow...
Bahahahah
Post by: BobbyB on June 09, 2016, 04:33:18 PM
There is movement down there!
Like I hope that is water trickling or flowing and not some Loch Ness creature or a pit of snakes? Whatever it is, I'm going to be finding out PDQ. Since it's discovery, I an accelerating the building of some structure over it to both protect it and to develop it as a drinking water source.
Easy way to find out, drop a line down there with a bucket and slowly haul the bucket up. Just clear the brush away and stand back away from the hole as you pull up line. You'll soon see.
Unless you have a camera you can lower down that will record nice video.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 05:10:45 PM
At this rate my door greeter job will have to be full-time to afford hanging out with you all.Yessir!
That wells rather cool....be interesting to see how that develops.
So wait.... you have two lawn mowers with bucket attachments?? I missed that somehow...
One light duty mower and one medium to no duty mower!
On a positive note, I just got back from a ride on the DR over to the J D store. My tractor is up and running!
I would never have found the problem. It was a broken wire INSIDE THE WIRING HARNESS!!!!!!!!!!
The bundle going into the ECU sits under the seat, well protected by my ample posterior. The harness with no sign of damage must have wiggled about enough to break a wire, because repairing that (How did he find that???) fixed everything. No more codes no more funny stuff, just a good running tractor.
I have a guy, brick layer with a farm interested in it at the moment, so we'll see what happens. But after all the feedback I am getting from folks more knowledgeable than I, the choice will be to go up to a 75-90 HP tractor with a shuttle shift transmission and I'll fetch a better bush hog as well. Probably a 10 footer or better.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 05:14:25 PM
Bobbe,There is movement down there!
Like I hope that is water trickling or flowing and not some Loch Ness creature or a pit of snakes? Whatever it is, I'm going to be finding out PDQ. Since it's discovery, I an accelerating the building of some structure over it to both protect it and to develop it as a drinking water source.
Easy way to find out, drop a line down there with a bucket and slowly haul the bucket up. Just clear the brush away and stand back away from the hole as you pull up line. You'll soon see.
Unless you have a camera you can lower down that will record nice video.
I was thinking about door numba two. I was wondering if HF had some deep well exploration camera for $19.99...going to check!
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 09, 2016, 06:55:02 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: JR on June 09, 2016, 07:00:56 PM
Lots of USB cameras too. Plug into the laptop and you are set.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:39:11 PM
What city is your farm out of Don?No "Cities anywhere nearby. Only scattered and very small towns of 200 or less and they are distant.
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Hash tag: Middle of the middle of nowhere!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:40:57 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 10:44:32 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 09, 2016, 11:00:44 PM
Tomorrow he's venturing up into God's country to visit me at the farm.
The Illinois plates are gonna stick out...
I told him to wait for me at a local general store. If he isn't kidnapped, or worse, I'll guide him back into the back country...him with that purdy white Illinois truck, towing a camper...with the Chi-town accent...
Banjo music aplenty, we'll see how this works out for him! I'll watch over him if he makes it ;-)
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 09, 2016, 11:05:29 PM
Post by: JR on June 09, 2016, 11:20:33 PM
Only here would you get a picture of leaf springs and a wood stove in the same picture.
I do like the stove, needs some kinda trim.
I need to add a leaf to the front of Spartan before I lift it just for general driving.
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 10, 2016, 01:03:52 AM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: stlaser on June 10, 2016, 01:41:13 AM
Post by: BobbyB on June 10, 2016, 02:44:43 AM
Bobbe,
I was thinking about door numba two. I was wondering if HF had some deep well exploration camera for $19.99...going to check!
How deep is the well? Rough estimate? Most cameras you'll see won't have a long cord. However for a cheap alternative:
1. Go to your local sporting goods store
2. Go to the section that has the waterproof pelican cases, or their comparable competitors
3. Buy a small one about IPhone sized with a clear lid.
4. Put IPhone into video mode, tape to inside of clear lid, secure lid ensure proper seal
5. Attach 550 to case
6. Slowly lower case, as an added bonus if you lower slow enough it won't spin very fast and give you a 360* view of the inside of the well. Once it gets to water level you'll have video of what's down there.
Repeat steps in reverse order to retrieve videographic evidence of well's interior. Added bonus, you have a new case to store something in.
Post by: JR on June 10, 2016, 02:47:03 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 07:30:33 AM
^^^^This is getting scary. ^^^^Trim is for girls!
Only here would you get a picture of leaf springs and a wood stove in the same picture.
I do like the stove, needs some kinda trim.
I need to add a leaf to the front of Spartan before I lift it just for general driving.
Just needs a stove pipe and some split logs!
Gotcha!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 07:35:10 AM
Bobbe,
I was thinking about door numba two. I was wondering if HF had some deep well exploration camera for $19.99...going to check!
How deep is the well? Rough estimate? Most cameras you'll see won't have a long cord. However for a cheap alternative:
1. Go to your local sporting goods store
2. Go to the section that has the waterproof pelican cases, or their comparable competitors
3. Buy a small one about IPhone sized with a clear lid.
4. Put IPhone into video mode, tape to inside of clear lid, secure lid ensure proper seal
5. Attach 550 to case
6. Slowly lower case, as an added bonus if you lower slow enough it won't spin very fast and give you a 360* view of the inside of the well. Onceit gets to water level you'll have video of what's down there.
Repeat steps in reverse order to retrieve videographic evidence of well's interior. Added bonus, you have a new case to store something in.
^^^NCO right there...Smart!
Good idea!
But I was thinking of lowerin' CudaKidd on my winch cable. That way I get audio as well!
Mostly screams and some cursing I suspect, but would make one heck of a story...Especially if there are snakes down there.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 10, 2016, 07:50:59 AM
Post by: stlaser on June 10, 2016, 07:58:34 AM
Why don't you get a deacon from on of those little churches down the road from the hide, they love handling those nasty things!
No joke, ain't that the truth......
Post by: Flyin6 on June 10, 2016, 08:06:03 AM
Why don't you get a deacon from on of those little churches down the road from the hide, they love handling those nasty things!Ya know, funny thing is, that's probably true!
So you up for a little spelunking?
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 10, 2016, 08:28:30 AM
Post by: OldKooT on June 10, 2016, 10:06:06 AM
Post by: Dustoff35 on June 10, 2016, 12:02:44 PM
A weight on a string will allow you to determine the depth...
Post by: JR on June 10, 2016, 06:33:45 PM
But I was thinking of lowerin' CudaKidd on my winch cable. That way I get audio as well!
Mostly screams and some cursing I suspect, but would make one heck of a story...Especially if there are snakes down there.
Tape the camera to him, remote control!!!!
Plus we get entertainment.,,,,,,,Just sayin
Post by: Nate on June 10, 2016, 08:01:01 PM
Bobbe,
I was thinking about door numba two. I was wondering if HF had some deep well exploration camera for $19.99...going to check!
How deep is the well? Rough estimate? Most cameras you'll see won't have a long cord. However for a cheap alternative:
1. Go to your local sporting goods store
2. Go to the section that has the waterproof pelican cases, or their comparable competitors
3. Buy a small one about IPhone sized with a clear lid.
4. Put IPhone into video mode, tape to inside of clear lid, secure lid ensure proper seal
5. Attach 550 to case
6. Slowly lower case, as an added bonus if you lower slow enough it won't spin very fast and give you a 360* view of the inside of the well. Onceit gets to water level you'll have video of what's down there.
Repeat steps in reverse order to retrieve videographic evidence of well's interior. Added bonus, you have a new case to store something in.
^^^NCO right there...Smart!
Good idea!
But I was thinking of lowerin' CudaKidd on my winch cable. That way I get audio as well!
Mostly screams and some cursing I suspect, but would make one heck of a story...Especially if there are snakes down there.
I would agree with this plan of action, then mike could honestly tell people that he is koalafied.....!
Post by: Bigdave_185 on June 10, 2016, 08:01:57 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:08:13 PM
Are you sure its a well and not just an old cistern from the original homestead? The reason I ask is that the bottle-shape you describe is consistent with cistern construction techniques used prior to the plastic or poured-in-place ones built today. I think the old cistern behind the house is of the same bottle-shaped, brick construction.It's a well! And a spring fed one at that!
A weight on a string will allow you to determine the depth...
And it's got a ton of water in it
And the water was cool and clean.
Let me get through the gun play stuff and I'll show you and everyone just what we discovered
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:11:28 PM
He came in with his Silvy and a nice camper and set up operations next to that nasty house!
He drove Sarge around the patch to check it out. Sarge was running well, no loader issues at all...Now I'm scratching my head!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:13:48 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Ray came with his Smith MP-15 and did a good job with that as well. Both these guys shoot well and know their weapons.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:22:29 PM
Post by: stlaser on June 11, 2016, 11:25:33 PM
Looks like a good time......
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:28:03 PM
Any day at the farm shooting is better than a day there with Don wreaking havoc on equipment! ;DIt was!
Looks like a good time......
And I haven't even mentioned the bacon wrapped quail Mike cooked on the barbie that night...or the bourbon...
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:29:08 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:31:10 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:34:27 PM
The steel or iron ring appears to be part of a wagon wheel. The bolts had mostly square nuts and rounded heads like a carriage bolt
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:39:16 PM
The nut touched the surface of the water 46 feet down!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the water is a bit over six feet deep!!!!!!!!!
Mike tied a knot on the twine which reflects ground level with the nut just touching the top of the water, and another knot when the nut touched down on the bottom.
These two guys are holding the points that represent the ground level and the bottom of that insane hole!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:40:31 PM
Post by: KensAuto on June 11, 2016, 11:42:09 PM
So, you and Ray did all of the manual labor, while Rhinestone Mike was playing jump rope with a large nut? Hmm, some friend he is. :)
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:46:21 PM
I zig zagged it all over the place, going along the stream and up into this area in the woods which is littered with stones all wearing an inch or better of rich green moss. It looks picture worthy there.
This trail I cut has a purpose. I have wanted to do this for some time, but the trail is going to be called "Ephesians Trail." My plan is to get someone to carve Paul's head into a tree along the way, and I will have the entire book of Ephesians carved into plaques, backrests of benches, into concrete or stone or whatever. The idea is that you can walk along on this cool and shady path and talk to God. While you're walking there will be benches, stools, chairs and also exercise stations. But most importantly, if you read along the way, you would have read the entire Gospel of Paul's letter to the church of Ephesus...
How cool is that???!
Post by: stlaser on June 11, 2016, 11:46:49 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:47:13 PM
That well is so cool!Well, he did bring a bottle of bourbon and cook me some quail he shot!
So, you and Ray did all of the manual labor, while Rhinestone Mike was playing jump rope with a large nut? Hmm, some friend he is. :)
That has to count for something!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 11, 2016, 11:47:35 PM
Post by: KensAuto on June 11, 2016, 11:48:59 PM
Sounds like a great time had by all. Makes me want to make a road trip now!
Ditto.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:49:20 PM
Gunna throw this out there otherwise I'll forget to say it, possibly a dumb idea. That steel ring, was zooming in at the picture & thinking you need to repurpose that somehow as it's technically part of the farm. Anyhow, thinking you need to build a sundial. Maybe you could use the ring as the clock face of sorts......HOL-LEE CRAP
That's it!
We were talking about that ring. I wanted to repurpose it somehow into the well mechanicals, but nossir, Shawn...It is going to be a sundial
Thanks!...Great idea!
Post by: stlaser on June 11, 2016, 11:50:17 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:51:52 PM
Sounds like a great time had by all. Makes me want to make a road trip now!Well RN, at the rate of transformation I will have something substantial in the not too distant future which could host all of us for a good meet n' greet
We need to do that. Every RealMan on this site that can make it. Would be a great time. Bath it with worship, good food, shooting, and trick you boneheads into doing some work for me, and it would be a time to remember!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 11, 2016, 11:54:56 PM
Glad I could help! ;DBetter than this:
Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 11, 2016, 11:57:01 PM
Post by: stlaser on June 12, 2016, 12:05:49 AM
Glad I could help! ;DBetter than this:
I agree, use some of that stone on the property & you can have an interesting useful tool that can last generations. That ring will not be rusting away anytime soon. If memory serves me correctly there were some pretty cool builds online of people making their own......
Post by: JR on June 12, 2016, 12:32:27 AM
Did you get a sample of the water? Does it have a alcohol content??
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 12, 2016, 07:11:01 AM
That well is so cool!
So, you and Ray did all of the manual labor, while Rhinestone Mike was playing jump rope with a large nut? Hmm, some friend he is. :)
Poison ivy doesn't play nice with my skin! Besides I have studied the work of Tom Sawyer- "bet you guys can pull those weeds by hand"!?
Have you ever tried to play jump rope with string? It was really hard, I almost fell in the well!? I did get Don to show me some of the infamous mowing carnage- chunk of chain saw engine block
Post by: Flyin6 on June 12, 2016, 08:06:20 AM
If you have a 50 amp hook up, I can live high on the hog, baby!Jen-err-ate-ter
But, I'll have a 50 amp hookup!
Post by: BobbyB on June 12, 2016, 12:43:38 PM
I cut a trail which is probably a mile long.
I zig zagged it all over the place
This trail I cut has a purpose.
exercise stations.
How cool is that???!
Make an exercise trail around the whole perimeter of the property.
Poison ivy doesn't play nice with my skin!
It doesn't like me either.
Post by: JR on June 12, 2016, 12:46:59 PM
Thats about the best pic of BD yet, carnage and all.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 12, 2016, 01:44:12 PM
Just had some excellent barbecue at the barrelhouse barbecue in Lynchburg Tennessee-great stuff
Post by: Dawg25385 on June 12, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
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Post by: JR on June 12, 2016, 03:46:57 PM
Post by: KensAuto on June 12, 2016, 05:03:09 PM
I think that if we can make it to Neck's hideout, we could all fit in his mansion on wheels. Several of us could throw a 6" lift on it fairly quickly, and push/pull it up Don's trail, with someone on the roof with a chainsaw to clear the way while watching for pee'd off neighbors with pitchforks....I'm all in!!!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 12, 2016, 11:32:23 PM
Redneck - that RV Mansion of your probably wouldn't make it all the way down the horse path, err...."drive".....on my way out, I almost removed my steps on natures "curbs" err...boulders!Hey, loved having you and Ray down there!
Just had some excellent barbecue at the barrelhouse barbecue in Lynchburg Tennessee-great stuff
But, had you stayed until today, when I got back down there after church, I was leading a convoy of vehicles...members of my security "Ministry." We arrived just in time to greet the leading edge of 1.5 hours of thunderstorms! One of the gentlemen nearly didn't make it in there...He was driving a car.
Cars no workie in that road. But we had a muddy mess, but shot anyway.
Mike we put a pie plate up, way down that long field and I absolutely wore it out with that M1A!
We shot hundreds (thousand or more??) rounds! So many that one area of grass doesn't need bush hogging anymore.
Bottom line: Had a good few days with CudaKidd and Ray and the church security folks! Now, back to Getting a big tractor back, researching sundial design, building a spring pack, and who knows what else!
Post by: Wilbur on June 13, 2016, 07:11:57 PM
Don our Church has a similar path through the woods and although much shorter it does provide a seriously peaceful and reflective time when you are on it. I like that idea.
Like the sundial too. Very cool repurpose of some old iron.
Post by: cj7ox on June 13, 2016, 07:30:52 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2016, 11:03:34 PM
I'm getting closer and closer by the week to having something which could support a number of folks for a time.
With some heat or cooling, the shed alone could house quite a few. Have your own outhouse, and washing and showering facilities. Heck depending on the timeline, might even have a washer and dryer, TV and interweb!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2016, 11:10:09 PM
I have already pressure washed the thing, removed a lot of stickage, rocks, started straightening lines and what is now a list of 26 items. I figure If I jump on it hard, in 3-4 days tops, I can have it fully repaired, armored up with a lot more steel to protect against sticks tearing it up, and I plan to modify the bushhog by opening the rear end up so that a little bit of the spinning blades are exposed. I plan to reshape the aft end so that I can slowly back into trees of a small diameter and hack the dog snot out of them like with a tree saw. I checked, and I have a 150HP gearbox on the hog, so I should be able to tackle things with great success.
I'm adding LED lighting, as in a lot of them, a weapon carrier, tool box carrier, a steel-over on the grill, change all fluids, and a total service.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 13, 2016, 11:17:32 PM
Can't thank you enough Don- Ray n I thoroughly enjoyed our time with you!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2016, 11:22:09 PM
Don't forget to affix that dangling light on the garden tractor too-Copy, Red team leader
Can't thank you enough Don- Ray n I thoroughly enjoyed our time with you!
Let's do it again.
Since you have DHCE (Don's hide campin' experience, you organize and plan out the RMMG (Real Man meet n' greet)
The bacon wrapped quail paid all that in full!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 13, 2016, 11:23:22 PM
Post by: Nate on June 14, 2016, 12:21:52 AM
Post by: Bear9350 on June 14, 2016, 08:20:13 AM
Well, my JD tractor buyer crapped out on me. I paid the repair bill on the thing today and afterward talked once more about a trade. It would be flat out stupid to trade, so without a solid sale, I'm proceeding with a few days of major maintenance on the green machine.
I have already pressure washed the thing, removed a lot of stickage, rocks, started straightening lines and what is now a list of 26 items. I figure If I jump on it hard, in 3-4 days tops, I can have it fully repaired, armored up with a lot more steel to protect against sticks tearing it up, and I plan to modify the bushhog by opening the rear end up so that a little bit of the spinning blades are exposed. I plan to reshape the aft end so that I can slowly back into trees of a small diameter and hack the dog snot out of them like with a tree saw. I checked, and I have a 150HP gearbox on the hog, so I should be able to tackle things with great success.
I'm adding LED lighting, as in a lot of them, a weapon carrier, tool box carrier, a steel-over on the grill, change all fluids, and a total service.
I'm thinking its doing things like this that keeps causing the breakdowns of your machine. Just saying, if you keep pushing the unit beyond its design limits your going to keep finding the weak links. Maybe the gear box holds up but in my experience the gear boxes aren't the weak links.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 14, 2016, 09:05:50 AM
Well, I've found weak links already with this cutter.Well, my JD tractor buyer crapped out on me. I paid the repair bill on the thing today and afterward talked once more about a trade. It would be flat out stupid to trade, so without a solid sale, I'm proceeding with a few days of major maintenance on the green machine.
I have already pressure washed the thing, removed a lot of stickage, rocks, started straightening lines and what is now a list of 26 items. I figure If I jump on it hard, in 3-4 days tops, I can have it fully repaired, armored up with a lot more steel to protect against sticks tearing it up, and I plan to modify the bushhog by opening the rear end up so that a little bit of the spinning blades are exposed. I plan to reshape the aft end so that I can slowly back into trees of a small diameter and hack the dog snot out of them like with a tree saw. I checked, and I have a 150HP gearbox on the hog, so I should be able to tackle things with great success.
I'm adding LED lighting, as in a lot of them, a weapon carrier, tool box carrier, a steel-over on the grill, change all fluids, and a total service.
I'm thinking its doing things like this that keeps causing the breakdowns of your machine. Just saying, if you keep pushing the unit beyond its design limits your going to keep finding the weak links. Maybe the gear box holds up but in my experience the gear boxes aren't the weak links.
So far:
Aft wheel
Another aft wheel, but broken spindle
Bent and destroyed driveshaft
Upper pin: 3X
One blade broke in half
Body of the thing dented everywhere
Hole in side
But, the clutch and gearbox is still running along. It might be damaged, I'll look inside during the maintenance stand down.
The MX-6 is the HD unit Deere sells. I make it a medium duty unit based on how it holds up. It is rated to surges of 150 HP and is rated to cut 3" saplings. I always thought 3" makes the thing a tree.
So while investigating cutters, I came across these, mostly meant to mount on the front of a skid steer and drive into things, I have seen them made for a 3 point as well
It wouldn't be all that difficult to make mine up into something like one of these
Post by: moto123 on June 14, 2016, 10:47:04 AM
Should this be it's own build thread? It is sounding worthy. I am curious to see your LED lights. I just purchased a 20" one to mount on my roll bar. Bench testing proved it was way brighter than I expected, which is awesome. But it also showed the pattern is very focused on a small area. I was looking more for a flood type output, so still debating whether to use it on the tractor.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 14, 2016, 01:13:17 PM
So your typical oil change then?Hmmm tractor build thread...
Should this be it's own build thread? It is sounding worthy. I am curious to see your LED lights. I just purchased a 20" one to mount on my roll bar. Bench testing proved it was way brighter than I expected, which is awesome. But it also showed the pattern is very focused on a small area. I was looking more for a flood type output, so still debating whether to use it on the tractor.
The "Tac-Trac?"
I'm fussing with it at the moment. Let's see where this goes...
Post by: stlaser on June 14, 2016, 01:53:23 PM
Where's Duane when you need him? ???
Post by: JR on June 14, 2016, 01:55:47 PM
Post by: moto123 on June 14, 2016, 02:03:00 PM
Except those skid steer one run off fast hydraulics not a gear box. You were a pilot so I'll refrain from covering the basics of that difference assuming you already know where I'm going.....Maybe I missed it, but I was assuming he would just modify the current one to look like these so that it could be used to back over trees. Not actually mount skid steer equipment on a tractor. Which I agree is difficult for many reasons.
Where's Duane when you need him? ???
Post by: stlaser on June 14, 2016, 02:45:20 PM
Post by: KensAuto on June 14, 2016, 09:23:09 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 14, 2016, 10:48:53 PM
Start something new...see how long it lasts!
Oh and I'll start a thread, "Tac Trac" for the (non) Tactical Tractor...Look for it
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2016, 09:18:59 AM
Definition: Lots of unnecessary stuff arranged in a working day in such a way as to render the day useless and unproductive.
But I did a ton of research on solar deep well pumps.
Deep well, meaning deeper that 20-30 feet. At that depth the surface mount jet pump becomes ineffective to useless, like our government.
But a deep well pump like the sureflow or this aluminum thing pictured can be suspended in the water and happily pump all day long while the sun is ah smilin' on the Kintucky.
Flow rates are not impressive. But over a normal day the thing can raise 600 or more gallons, and that IS impressive! So, I'm absent for a few days running down silly stuff, and when I get back, I'm looking at pool party time!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2016, 09:23:30 AM
The pump is the expensive part, like $600-$900 for a good one.
But then there are these cheap chinaman pumps for around $120. They say that over the 6-hour average lifespan the thing can raise a couple hundred gallons! Well, that's the ones that are wired correctly from the factory. Yes that 40% can last half a day or better and are also made from bright orange plastic, so that the blind cave crawdads can easily see them and when they fail in the 90+ degree/100% humidity of a standard Kintucky day...When they fail on a day like that, the bright orange shows up exceedingly well in any low grade chinaman optic mounted on your way too expensive AR.
Post by: JR on June 17, 2016, 12:31:43 PM
That is a pricey pump. Not sure if there is an alternative that will last.
Heck, try one of these to see how it works. Buy spares if it does!! Not rated for the lift you need, but just .5 amps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201602525982?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
This is a little better, but a little more;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-360LPH-Solar-Powered-Mini-Submersible-Deep-Well-Water-Pump-/152095744770?hash=item23699ce302:g:7A0AAOSwADNXPSIq
Then a 100 watt panel and controller;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PV-SOLAR-KIT-100-W-Watt-100Watts-PV-Solar-Panel-12V-RV-Boat-Charge-Controller-/201330856262?hash=item2ee0411146:g:-DsAAOSw7FRWXM70
Maybe just get the really good pump you saw and diff solar system and save a bunch!!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2016, 01:23:17 PM
I suppose first I need to select the well pump
Then find a solar panel to power it.
So most of the deep well pumps I found which are designed to be solar powered are 24VDC-30VDC
For that sure pump I pictured, what do I need? And the battery is really not needed. I want to direct power the pump from the cell. Besides, 24 volt batteries are hard to find...and costly.
I actually have two 12 volt ag batteries wired in series to get me to 24VDC for Sarge
Post by: JR on June 17, 2016, 02:52:56 PM
I found this pump, no idea on quality but it does the lift you need on 24v. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Farm-Ranch-Solar-Powered-Submersible-DC-Water-Well-Pump-24V-230FT-Lift-/251939546464?
Personally I would run the pump down a PVC tube to keep the system isolated.
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Post by: Flatlander on June 17, 2016, 08:40:19 PM
How does the 12v controller 'buffer' the voltage output to the pump, with capacitors? What happens when a cloud shades the panel for a few minuets?
I assume there is minimum voltage cut off for the controller to the pump, but would not a set of 12 volt batteries wired in series, as in Sarge, not be the best banking of reserve amp hours at 24 volts?
My thinking says this gets you hours of pumping after the Sun has gone down or reserves during partly sunny days.
I don't know much about these systems, obviously, so curiosity made me ask.
FL
Post by: stlaser on June 17, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2016, 11:13:19 PM
Solar panels and controller are easy. Just go 2 panels and a 24v controller. Mono panels are more eff in different light, Poly work better in direct light. Don't use the cheap amorphis(?) panels. If mounted on a poll, you can add a tracker for about $100.You found the cheapo Chinaman junk there J n' R!
I found this pump, no idea on quality but it does the lift you need on 24v. http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Farm-Ranch-Solar-Powered-Submersible-DC-Water-Well-Pump-24V-230FT-Lift-/251939546464?
Personally I would run the pump down a PVC tube to keep the system isolated.
Shame on ya!
I think I'll look for a 24VDC Sureflo...
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2016, 11:17:42 PM
I guess this question is for JR...
How does the 12v controller 'buffer' the voltage output to the pump, with capacitors? What happens when a cloud shades the panel for a few minuets?
I assume there is minimum voltage cut off for the controller to the pump, but would not a set of 12 volt batteries wired in series, as in Sarge, not be the best banking of reserve amp hours at 24 volts?
My thinking says this gets you hours of pumping after the Sun has gone down or reserves during partly sunny days.
I don't know much about these systems, obviously, so curiosity made me ask.
FLI'm not going to be getting into the battery business. First of all, I won't need to pump after dark. If the system can raise 600 gallons a day under normal conditions, and I store up, say 10,000-15,000 gallons, then I wouldn't have any need to be pumping all the time. Say after I get 5,000 or so gallons, I am ready to party. I'm talking city style showers, and who knows, maybe even pull the Sarge down there and hose it off!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 17, 2016, 11:18:13 PM
What's wrong with wind powered mechanical ?Just no need for it I suppose
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on June 18, 2016, 12:09:32 AM
well,just in case
Post by: JR on June 18, 2016, 01:19:52 AM
Here in the bay area solar panels are everywhere. $1 a watt is easy for new stuff US made.
Controllers I'm sure are mostly made in china. I see some from Taiwan. A lot of good items come from Germany and the US too. How they buffer the voltage, not sure. My controllers on my house have HUGE heatsinks which could mean resistor to Mosfets to just good ol transformers. Good thing is the power is coming in DC and just has to be controlled and not back fed (diodes in panels and controllers). Then probably a mosfet to control voltage outputs (high/low)
So why not mechanical is up to Don. Solar is quiet with really no maint. cept keeping the panel clean.
I would get a brushless motor pump, non diaphragm. Solar panels can be had in 12-48volt so even one panel could do the job. Most good newer panels have a 25 year life span and warranty.
Let it run through a battery with a timer as a buffer and then you use the batteries for pumping at night if needed. It would also run when shaded.
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 24, 2016, 10:42:14 PM
Starting with cheapo parts from Harbor freight pictured here, I'll throw a system together
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I drilled a 9/16" hole beside the filler to install the pickup assembly from the inside which turned out to be quite tricky
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I am thinking I will drill out the center of the fuel tank filler and install a fitting with a barbed end. The subsequent elimination of the vent will cause fuel to be drawn down the line from the larger aux tank to replenish the gas consumed from the main tank
Post by: JR on June 25, 2016, 12:32:25 AM
Good idea on the quick connect, maybe a 90* on it?
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2016, 09:11:31 AM
I'm curious to see if the main will draw from the aux. I would have thought sealed main and gravity feed from aux with a vent. Now where's that popcorn emojiI did some research prior to building this one. The Honda gens all have a fuel pump, so you can set the aux tank beside the generator and as the Neu-Yawkers say, "Forgetta-bout it"
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The champion and most generators have no fuel pump...The tank is mounted high and above the carb, so gravity feed is the plan. With that sort of a system, one should elevate the aux tank to reduce resistance in the drawing action. Comments I read said to place it on a stump beside the generator and enjoy the ambiance!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2016, 09:18:52 AM
Great idea with diy. I have seen kits that are stupid $$$.I think the 90 would have been best, but I have to tell ya, getting that pesky fitting threaded through that hole was not an easy thing to do. You have to shove it all down the fill port, then shake it around, inverted until the brass part finally decides to show up in view. Then try and stick a screwdriver into the hole in the fitting to allow it to slide closer to the hole. Finally I used an expanding set of snap-ring pliers to catch the fitting through the inside. Then I dropped the whole thing, and repeated all that several times.
Good idea on the quick connect, maybe a 90* on it?
You continue that process until finally, the washer falls off and becomes stuck to the inside and you get the RTV all over the place. At this point, you fish the whole thing out and start over...Repeat until necessary until:
1. You overheat
2. You run out of curse words
3. your neighbor comes over and asks you to build a fire pit with your freshly painted tractor
4. It gets too dark to work, assuming you started the process around noon
5. You actually succeed in getting the D)*@$!! thing threaded in.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 25, 2016, 09:20:56 AM
You can build a generator shed to match the outhouse and put it all in there- outta the elements and cut down on the noise. Build it like an old grain crib with side boards slanted and gapped so air flows through yet rain stays out!
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 25, 2016, 09:25:55 AM
Great idea with diy. I have seen kits that are stupid $$$.I think the 90 would have been best, but I have to tell ya, getting that pesky fitting threaded through that hole was not an easy thing to do. You have to shove it all down the fill port, then shake it around, inverted until the brass part finally decides to show up in view. Then try and stick a screwdriver into the hole in the fitting to allow it to slide closer to the hole. Finally I used an expanding set of snap-ring pliers to catch the fitting through the inside. Then I dropped the whole thing, and repeated all that several times.
Good idea on the quick connect, maybe a 90* on it?
You continue that process until finally, the washer falls off and becomes stuck to the inside and you get the RTV all over the place. At this point, you fish the whole thing out and start over...Repeat until necessary until:
1. You overheat
2. You run out of curse words
3. your neighbor comes over and asks you to build a fire pit with your freshly painted tractor
4. It gets too dark to work, assuming you started the process around noon
5. You actually succeed in getting the D)*@$!! thing threaded in.
Next time, thread it all on fishing line with a nut tied to it at the bottom of the assembly, fish the top of the string out of the hole first, then drop your assembly into the tank and simply pull up and guide with your finger through the filler neck! 8)
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 25, 2016, 09:23:17 PM
Now I hate myself!!!Great idea with diy. I have seen kits that are stupid $$$.I think the 90 would have been best, but I have to tell ya, getting that pesky fitting threaded through that hole was not an easy thing to do. You have to shove it all down the fill port, then shake it around, inverted until the brass part finally decides to show up in view. Then try and stick a screwdriver into the hole in the fitting to allow it to slide closer to the hole. Finally I used an expanding set of snap-ring pliers to catch the fitting through the inside. Then I dropped the whole thing, and repeated all that several times.
Good idea on the quick connect, maybe a 90* on it?
You continue that process until finally, the washer falls off and becomes stuck to the inside and you get the RTV all over the place. At this point, you fish the whole thing out and start over...Repeat until necessary until:
1. You overheat
2. You run out of curse words
3. your neighbor comes over and asks you to build a fire pit with your freshly painted tractor
4. It gets too dark to work, assuming you started the process around noon
5. You actually succeed in getting the D)*@$!! thing threaded in.
Next time, thread it all on fishing line with a nut tied to it at the bottom of the assembly, fish the top of the string out of the hole first, then drop your assembly into the tank and simply pull up and guide with your finger through the filler neck! 8)
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Post by: Flyin6 on June 26, 2016, 11:33:53 AM
While I seem to always be a day late and a dollar short (thousands it seems) another easier option would be use a military gas can..... You know the ones, come tan or some other nasty color, with the wide mouth kid your hand will fit through with zero issues! Yea that one. If you want one and are going to pay the exorbitant price I saw let me know, I'll sell you one of mine.Funny you mention that
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THis all started out with me over at the HF store checking out their steel gas cans. THey make a copy of the NATO can minus the cap. THey substitute the cheapo EPA narrow mouth junk, but otherwise, a sturdy can. It was $39.95. Now I have been paying $50 for my real live NATO cans...
Then I came across that 5 gal plastic can you see in the photos...$19.95
And the rest is a gas can write-up!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 27, 2016, 10:59:37 PM
I plused up the tools available to make the frequent repairs down there.
I screwed on a bunch of the Harbor Freight magnetic strips and threw some wrenches and other things up on the board because, like crows, I like shiny things
Post by: Flyin6 on June 27, 2016, 11:02:14 PM
I tested it on brush, and it worked really well
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That set up a vibration which induced a decent wobble in the gearbox. That caused metal fatigue and the inside steel shell of the cutter failed. The gearbox separated from it and nearly disintegrated.
That right there is a massive structural failure!
Post by: Flyin6 on June 27, 2016, 11:14:11 PM
It is becoming obvious that my cutter is simply not up to the task of clearing land like I have been using it to do. It is OK to use cutting a field and will survive hitting an occasional rock, but constant chewing of larger trees has killed the thing I fear
Post by: Flyin6 on June 27, 2016, 11:18:09 PM
I then pushed about three feet of dirt out of the dry pond and pushed down all the cedars on one end. I started to get into some gooey clay...Could there be water down there. I make it 12-15 feet deep and less than 100 meters from the well.
I'm going to use the box blade and cut a drainage ditch along the road into that pond. If I can get water to it, maybe it will hold it???
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Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2016, 02:32:05 AM
I screwed on a bunch of the Harbor Freight magnetic strips and threw some wrenches and other things up on the board because, like crows, I like shiny things
The wrenches aren't dress right dressed. For shame!
I don't know if that is even repairable.
It is becoming obvious that my cutter is simply not up to the task of clearing land like I have been using it to do. It is OK to use cutting a field and will survive hitting an occasional rock, but constant chewing of larger trees has killed the thing I fear
Maybe you should use Sarge to clear out the trees. Push it all into a burn pile, while simultaneously clearing out a section.
Post by: cudakidd53 on June 28, 2016, 08:34:50 AM
I screwed on a bunch of the Harbor Freight magnetic strips and threw some wrenches and other things up on the board because, like crows, I like shiny things
The wrenches aren't dress right dressed. For shame!I don't know if that is even repairable.
It is becoming obvious that my cutter is simply not up to the task of clearing land like I have been using it to do. It is OK to use cutting a field and will survive hitting an occasional rock, but constant chewing of larger trees has killed the thing I fear
Maybe you should use Sarge to clear out the trees. Push it all into a burn pile, while simultaneously clearing out a section.
Hmmmm, where might we have heard this idea before, Don? You could pick-out the log quality ones with your jaw bucket on your green tractor, buck the limbs and root end afterwards.
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2016, 10:16:24 AM
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2016, 11:29:18 AM
Maybe you should use Sarge to clear out the trees. Push it all into a burn pile, while simultaneously clearing out a section.
Hmmmm, where might we have heard this idea before, Don? You could pick-out the log quality ones with your jaw bucket on your green tractor, buck the limbs and root end afterwards.
I heard some Blackhawk pilots saying " no Chinook pilot would have the skills necessary to do that maneuver anyway"
Post by: Flyin6 on June 28, 2016, 02:17:45 PM
Maybe you should use Sarge to clear out the trees. Push it all into a burn pile, while simultaneously clearing out a section.Hmmmm, where might we have heard this idea before, Don? You could pick-out the log quality ones with your jaw bucket on your green tractor, buck the limbs and root end afterwards.
I heard some Blackhawk pilots saying " no Chinook pilot would have the skills necessary to do that maneuver anyway"
You should know better than to listen to any Hawk pilot
Especially when he says he'll get you there on time, or "You're at the coordinates you asked to be dropped at..."
Nuff said!
Post by: BobbyB on June 28, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
You should know better than to listen to any Hawk pilot
Especially when he says he'll get you there on time, or "You're at the coordinates you asked to be dropped at..."
Nuff said!
Long as I get there.
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I wanted to start clearing out the well, so I welded up this grapple hook out of some scrap
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Following that, I'll pull a water sample, then a second in a few days and start to test for what's down there
Fingers crossed!
I guess I found a temporary use for those electric shutter screens:
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 06:26:50 PM
The men and the kids worked, the wives supervised, and the dog laid around!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
The technique that works best (Thanks Mike!) is to use Sarge to push the tree over, then dig under the root ball and pop the tree out of the ground with the bucket curl back
Then I come in and buck the root ball and upper part of the tree off, then carry those parts to the burn pile, then go back and either trim the trunks or fill in the holes
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 06:35:01 PM
I highly encourage the use of child slave labor in these projects. If they belong to you, they will know the value of a hard day's work and be so thankful of what they accomplished...And they eat like men at the end of the day!
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THe flowers on the table came from the fields around the shed!
It was a good independence day weekend
There will be more on this "Independence" theme in coming updates...
Post by: cudakidd53 on July 03, 2016, 07:29:37 PM
Glad to see you're using Sarge as intended and it is opening up nicely- can almost see the well site!
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 03, 2016, 09:12:17 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: KensAuto on July 03, 2016, 09:30:18 PM
Notice what big D wears all the time, even when there's cotton moccasins abound? Like father like sons....the blonde one looks just like a mini Don. lol
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 09:37:38 PM
Is that the young lady who has your son keeping you on a tight schedule to make it to Church? ;)No, didn't make it today.
Glad to see you're using Sarge as intended and it is opening up nicely- can almost see the well site!
We didn't leave down there until the afternoon
I did do something I really liked though
Mixed some root beer with some bourbon cream and a piece of ice.
That was delicious, thanks again!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 09:39:06 PM
Now if someone can answer me the idea behind youth and gym clothes for every activity. When I was a young lad if grandpa came to take me to work on the farm I was not allowed any other then long sleeve shirt and jeans. The one time I didn't obey he let me walk through stinging nettle and reap what I sowed.Mine do pick up some poison ivy from time to time, but it is so humid here that long clothes get soaked, stick to you and overheat you fast.
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 03, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Did your gramps wear shorts while working? No?My desert combat boots???
Notice what big D wears all the time, even when there's cotton moccasins abound? Like father like sons....the blonde one looks just like a mini Don. lol
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 03, 2016, 11:20:04 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 04, 2016, 08:49:22 AM
Don't completely clear the area. Leave some treeline for a windbreak, and shady areas to relax in.I'm not completely clearing it. I am leaving the hardwood trees for the most part and a couple cedars here and there
Post by: BobbyB on July 04, 2016, 10:05:40 AM
Don't completely clear the area. Leave some treeline for a windbreak, and shady areas to relax in.I'm not completely clearing it. I am leaving the hardwood trees for the most part and a couple cedars here and there
Got ya.
As for fishing stuff out of the well, take a 5 gallon bucket, punch some holes in the bottom to facilitate water drainage, then lower that in the well. It should pick up stuff you aren't snagging with the hook.
Post by: stlaser on July 04, 2016, 12:23:48 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on July 04, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
I recommend making a tripod with a snatch block hanging from it (3 point or bucket on tractor strategically placed would work as well). Use winch on truck & have Duane lower you into said well. Why Duane you ask? Because he will document said folly with lots of pictures and commentary that makes for wonderful entertainment for all us DOT's! ;D^^^^Disapproved^^^^^
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 05, 2016, 08:04:25 PM
I like the sieve-like vegetable steamers that have a central stud and open up like a flower. it could slip past debris on the way down, and then open up to collect surface stuff as it's retrieved. I was also wondering why there wasn't a tripod from all those cedar branches and some scout lashing to help lower and raise that hook there Don. Don't forget the simple stuff, and wouldn't be a bad course for the PR's, (or course review).Plenty of cedar posts to be sure, and I'm stacking them up
I plan for something more substantial over the well if the water tests good
Post by: Flyin6 on July 08, 2016, 11:11:02 PM
I wanted something permanent and stout, so I made it out of expanded steel mat.
I didn't spray paint it because I wanted it to become a "Rust-Bucket!"
^^Funny right there! ;-)
Post by: BobbyB on July 09, 2016, 09:25:20 PM
I didn't spray paint it because I wanted it to become a "Rust-Bucket!"
^^Funny right there! ;-)
Pilots.... ::)
;D
Post by: Flyin6 on July 10, 2016, 09:52:59 AM
1 Big tractor flat tire
2 big tractor 3-point lift inop
3 little tractor: 2 ea deck wheels fell off
4 Little tractor flat rear tire
5 camper awning heavily damaged...hit by tractor
But
Sarge is killin' it!
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 10, 2016, 09:54:59 AM
Debris is cleaned out But water dies not smell so good!
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Post by: Sammconn on July 10, 2016, 12:20:15 PM
Some serious carnage.
The well may very well need a pump out and or cleaning depending on its flow.
With use it possible will be a self correcting issue.
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 10, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
Post by: JR on July 11, 2016, 02:04:13 AM
I'm beginning to think that Don left the Armee because they couldn't afford to fix all the stuff he was breaking....
Yep.
Post by: cudakidd53 on July 11, 2016, 07:42:07 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on July 11, 2016, 08:21:15 AM
Remember how i ran into that grayish clay?
Well, I get down there yesterday afternoon and it has four feet of water in it!
Another spring?
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Post by: wilsonphil on July 11, 2016, 09:08:12 PM
Don, those portable ox/ac torches are on sale at HF. Coupon brings it down to $200.
That's way to slow he needs on of these,
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Post by: stlaser on July 11, 2016, 09:26:53 PM
So remember the small critter pond i mucked out with Sarge?
Remember how i ran into that grayish clay?
Well, I get down there yesterday afternoon and it has four feet of water in it!
Another spring?
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Possible, bring in excavator & dig it out. May be artesian well......
Post by: Flyin6 on July 11, 2016, 09:45:53 PM
CarRep: while pushing a pile of cedars one of them managed to smash into the engine oil filter. Just wait till you see the pics
Spent almost three hours hunting a JD store for a new one. I purchased two! Three point hitch is completely out now...
Post by: JR on July 11, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on July 11, 2016, 10:35:59 PM
Don, I think any Blacksmith that get's to know you would HIDE their Anvils......... ;D Sorry to hear the carnage continues!
Post by: Sammconn on July 11, 2016, 11:03:28 PM
Don, think you need to use Sarge a bit more, less damage to the Deere's maybe.
But you're sure keeping the parts man in business.
Mike, hide the anvil...almost, well maybe not a low blow... 8)
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Don the rubber mallet swingin Anvil Killer , has a nice "ring" to it....hahahahahahahahaha
Post by: Flyin6 on July 12, 2016, 09:37:02 PM
OK, finally back after sweating out 55 + gallons of bottled water!
Yep, Carnage was definately a factor in this weekends operations. But with so much to get done, I simply switched tasks and kept Rockin' N' Rollin'!
Speaking of CarRep stuff, here's tractor #2:
Post by: Flyin6 on July 12, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
It didn't work
I can still see it!
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I have given the task completely to the pre-Rangers to build a wrap around stone wall. THey have to figure out how to heft each of those stones, no matter how heavy into a stair step arrangement on the slope. THis is how far they got in the past two days. Mind you, they are also dragging brush, clearing the lane and being kids (Splashing in the creek)
Post by: JR on July 12, 2016, 11:23:05 PM
You keep breaking the JD's and they look so small out there. Then sarge looks like he belongs, just saying let me do it!
How far is the "hide" from your place?
Spent the last week in Scout camp near Big Sur. Camp was Pico Blanco (little sur).
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Post by: Sammconn on July 13, 2016, 09:12:12 AM
You need to either be more careful with the tractor, or start planning phase 2 of tractor protection body armor. Clearly the entire engine should be wrapped with at least a tube frame and 1/2 inch plate!Fixed it for ya.
And the JDs look way small.
Sarge almost looks small.
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 09:26:21 AM
Lots of good work and carnage going on there.Saw your Big Sur camping pics, Just beautiful. Did I mention I got invited to man a helo near Big Sur once upon a time...As in move there and live. Mikey, one of my best amigos flies the CH-54 Sky Crane and wanted me to work up to captain in that bird and fight fires eight months a year.
You keep breaking the JD's and they look so small out there. Then sarge looks like he belongs, just saying let me do it!
How far is the "hide" from your place?
Spent the last week in Scout camp near Big Sur. Camp was Pico Blanco (little sur).
Hide is 1 + 15 away
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 09:27:45 AM
You need to either be more careful with the tractor, or start planning phase 2 of tractor protection body armor. Clearly the entire engine should be wrapped with at least a tube frame and expanded metal cage.Yea, I was thinking about that. The professional bush hogging tractor operators make theirs into Bradley fighting vehicles by comparison.
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 09:28:58 AM
You need to either be more careful with the tractor, or start planning phase 2 of tractor protection body armor. Clearly the entire engine should be wrapped with at least a tube frame and expanded metal cage.Yea, I was thinking about that. The professional bush hogging tractor operators make theirs into Bradley fighting vehicles by comparison.
You need to either be more careful with the tractor, or start planning phase 2 of tractor protection body armor. Clearly the entire engine should be wrapped with at least a tube frame and 1/2 inch plate!Fixed it for ya.
And the JDs look way small.
Sarge almost looks small.
Picture needs a 90HP tractor and an Excavator and maybe a LMTV to be complete, don't cha' think?
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Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 13, 2016, 03:28:53 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 04:19:14 PM
I just wanna be like done and break stuff all weekend and drive tractorsWell, I'd suggest a 30 year military career or something like it that:
Raising boys into RealMen!!
1. Provides all the rocking chair stories you'll ever need.
2. Provides for nearly free health care
3. Provides a pension equal to most folks annual pay
4. Lots of assists like VA mortgages, USAA banking, VA healthcare as a backup, Job assistance
5. And don't forget to save money for like three decades so that (using the American system) you can come out of it on the other end with at least half of what you saved
Of course it takes one 20-30 years to realize all the mutual funds, stocks, annuities and other savings plans you are forced into are all scams and you will never succeed on any of that because you are easier to manage if you're poor and dependent.
Or contact me privately and I'll let you in on a couple little secrets...
Post by: Bigdave_185 on July 13, 2016, 06:53:49 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 13, 2016, 11:22:15 PM
I still need to talk with ya about lowers too :)Sure.
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Caveat: Cell phone is spotty where I am a lot of the time now. And most test replies are coming back "Not Delivered"
Checked my I-Phone settings and can't find anything wrong...???
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I probably will load up on electronic goodies...But I have so much to do to get this thing up and ready to occupy at the moment
Take a look at the temporary work list which includes nothing to do with fitting the shed out to be able to live in.:
Farm Work List 16 July 2016
1. Install wall outlets, overhead lights boxes, and switch boxes in shed
2. Install fuse box panel
3. Drill holes and run wires, as in rough in wiring, not connected
4. Dig trench and run conduit from pole to shed building (Hire out to Blue Grass Energy guy)
5. Remove wood stove flue from old house
6. Clean flue
7. Install fire proof sheeting to corner where wood burning stove will sit
8. Install brick around stove area
9. Cut hole in floor above wood stove and reinforce
10. Build and install steel grate over hole
11. Build wood cover for hole to fit over grate
12. Install chimney flue through shed wall
13. Install chimney up to three feet above surrounding structure
14. Install wood stove and connect to flue
15. Frame in upstairs bathroom
16. Locate shower or bath tub on floor
17. Procure, place and rough in upstairs toilet
18. Procure, place and rough-in upstairs vanity and sink
19. Remove siding from barn
20. Buck remaining felled trees, burn branches, stack logs
21. Burn all burn piles and regrade
22. Grade in around dry pond…Cut in feed ditch to pond from road with box scraper
23. Clean out dirt from around well opening
24. Install concrete footer around well mouth
25. Install several courses of blocks around well to 24”-36” height
26. Build a frame over well opening to rig pulley and future mechanicals
27. Build a frame for a small structure around the well…Contract Mike Seaman???
28. Select timbers for porch and belt sand smooth
29. Dig holes and set poles in concrete
30. Build deck surface
31. Frame in roof structure
32. Finish out three sided roof
33. Procure Primary water holding tank (Cistern)
34. Procure and install well side 1500-2000 gallon water holding tank
35. Install solar panels for well pump
36. Install well pump and ¾” plastic piping to collection tank
37. Dig ditch up to shed from well
38. Install ¾” schedule 80 water line and 1 ½” schedule 80 electrical conduit in same ditch for future power of pressure pump
39. Bush Hog remaining fields
40. Clear stones from fields
41. Dismantle barn. Sort and stack material on site where Barn currently rests
42. Cut trees from around new pond and grade
43. Cut trees from around old pond
44. Cut trees into proper length for firewood
45. Build a firewood rack for fire pit
46. Continue building stone retaining wall around newly landscaped banks near shed
47. Dig a level area behind shed to reposition camper
48. Set several corners in concrete so that leveling jacks can be set in place to stabilize camper
49. Purchase and place a portable garage roof structure over camper
50. Build small deck around camper entrance door
51. Dig shallow pit, level, and fill with ½” gravel to 6” depth for above ground water tank
52. Build a short block wall to divert runoff from base of water tank
53. Install water tank into pit and plumb as necessary
54. Establish a mechanical room for water pump, solar batteries, solar hot water collector tank and other mechanicals onto side of shed
55. Push in and burn existing house
56. Clean site of waste metal, and rough grade site to prevent erosion
57. Continue to clear trees from downside of existing house to a distance of approximately 100 feet.
58. Grade driveway
59. Continue to cut branches and bushes away from driveway
60. Establish several game cameras to record traffic on driveway
61. Repair steel entrance gate
62. Repaint existing fence at gate
63. Spray round-up around fence, around shed, and other areas where future growth is not desired
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 17, 2016, 08:43:53 PM
How long before you turn the pre-rangers loose on the green machine to help mow your fields and help with driveway maintenance?Already happening!
Smallest Pre-Ranger is most adept at the moment. He is cutting but scared of slopes (Note: The entire property is sloped)
Working on a CraigsList 6000 gallon water tank at the moment
It's 11 feet in diameter and 11.something tall.
Now if I get it, I wonder if it will fit onto the trailer to haul down to the farm?????
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 18, 2016, 08:20:21 PM
have you taught him the proper roll over drill?"Proper" Roll over procedure, Nate???
That would be: Unbuckle and run for your life cause I'm gonna pound a pound of butt off your tail for destroying my tractor!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 18, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
A primary rock-shaft control valve was sticking open which prevented hydraulic pressure to be trapped. The JD folks replaced the valve and even installed new seals on the piston and put it all back together.
I watched it effortlessly lift a small rotary cutter (No I'm not buying that one!) over and over, and hold it elevated for a while.
I'm back in business!
Post by: Nate on July 18, 2016, 09:04:07 PM
hands and feet inside of the ride at all times.......;D
Post by: wilsonphil on July 18, 2016, 09:16:15 PM
Then after a whole bunch more sweat and hours, the area is starting to clean up, and my log pile is really expanding
You know if you bury those powere lines with a little work with say a D6 or 7, you might have a nice little airstrip there!
Post by: Sammconn on July 18, 2016, 11:01:14 PM
Oh no! Don't add to the already massive list.Then after a whole bunch more sweat and hours, the area is starting to clean up, and my log pile is really expanding
You know if you bury those powere lines with a little work with say a D6 or 7, you might have a nice little airstrip there!
But I must agree, you're absolutely right!
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 09:36:02 AM
Post by: Sammconn on July 19, 2016, 10:01:38 AM
Helicopters don't need a "Strip" :)That also went through my mind, but a plane is I think waaay more economical to buy and operate.
Post by: wilsonphil on July 19, 2016, 10:36:59 AM
Helicopters don't need a "Strip" :)That also went through my mind, but a plane is I think waaay more economical to buy and operate.
Not unless he has a Maintenance Depot right next to said pad!
Don, I sure hope you fly better than you operate farm equipment!!!
All joking aside have you thought about Bell, or Enstrom, Robinson, and the Huges500 are pretty cheap if you can afford to maintain them. Or go the much cheaper route of fixed wing and strip, there is always powered paragliding!
Post by: JR on July 19, 2016, 11:08:51 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:03:09 PM
Helicopters don't need a "Strip" :)That also went through my mind, but a plane is I think waaay more economical to buy and operate.
Not unless he has a Maintenance Depot right next to said pad!
Don, I sure hope you fly better than you operate farm equipment!!!
All joking aside have you thought about Bell, or Enstrom, Robinson, and the Huges500 are pretty cheap if you can afford to maintain them. Or go the much cheaper route of fixed wing and strip, there is always powered paragliding!
Well, let's just say lots of different aircraft would be welcomed now and then.
As for my personal aircraft. It's either going to be a Super Huey 2, or maybe a Bell 412, or an AW-139...Painted OD green of course
Post by: Flyin6 on July 19, 2016, 08:08:05 PM
The tractor has been transported back down to the farm. It runs perfectly. We even washed it up and sprayed some wax on it at the truck wash.
We replenished the gasoline stocks down there, and I am seeing a couple of fuel tanks in the near future. One gasoline, one red diesel. I am now hauling 30+ gallons of fuel down there each time I drive down.
The dry pond is not so dry any more, it has filled a bit more, although the filling seems to have slowed down. If I accidentally "Mushed through" a weep hole in the clay with Sarge, then if and when I really clean that hole out with a proper excavator, I should have a lot more volume.
Tomorrow, we may go for the 6,000 gallon water tank in the morning...
Post by: wilsonphil on July 19, 2016, 10:24:49 PM
Helicopters don't need a "Strip" :)That also went through my mind, but a plane is I think waaay more economical to buy and operate.
Not unless he has a Maintenance Depot right next to said pad!
Don, I sure hope you fly better than you operate farm equipment!!!
All joking aside have you thought about Bell, or Enstrom, Robinson, and the Huges500 are pretty cheap if you can afford to maintain them. Or go the much cheaper route of fixed wing and strip, there is always powered paragliding!
Well, let's just say lots of different aircraft would be welcomed now and then.
As for my personal aircraft. It's either going to be a Super Huey 2, or maybe a Bell 412, or an AW-139...Painted OD green of course
Good choices but pricey, we could locate some surplus Daisy Cutters and make a pad for all your rotorwing toys
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Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 20, 2016, 08:11:51 AM
I almost pulled the trigger but didn't for privacy reasons. I have 2 poly 55 gallon drums that I use to haul fuel. However I'm getting a bit long in the tooth to be man handling those. The tractor helps though.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 20, 2016, 09:24:42 AM
However, I want a local propane company to install a 500 or 1,000 gallon tank into a pit I will construct. I have a reason for doing it that way...
The fuel will be purchased from a local company which routinely sells to farms...
Plan on seeing temporary fuel through until next year, however, I plan to have propane on property when the cold Wx hits.
Post by: Bear9350 on July 20, 2016, 09:25:41 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on July 20, 2016, 09:29:14 AM
It seems like most of your equipment is diesel so having a gasoline tank may not be as beneficial but I believe it is possible to get tax exempt gasoline similar to off-road diesel. At least I thought we did on the farm.At the moment we use gasoline for electricity production and a couple asundry tools like the chainsaw. In the future when I hard mount a generator in the "Power Shed" I may have to consider powering it from Propane and upping my supply to a couple thousand gallons of the stuff...
Post by: stlaser on July 20, 2016, 09:54:37 AM
When it comes to fuel tanks my plan is to purchase and own the fuel tanks
However, I want a local propane company to install a 500 or 1,000 gallon tank into a pit I will construct. I have a reason for doing it that way...
The fuel will be purchased from a local company which routinely sells to farms...
Plan on seeing temporary fuel through until next year, however, I plan to have propane on property when the cold Wx hits.
Post by: KensAuto on July 20, 2016, 10:14:41 AM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 20, 2016, 10:22:23 AM
Burying propane takes requires a coated tank with an anode for corrosion. Propane=fuel that never goes bad.
Gasoline. For farm use see if you can find a farm supply place. I have one that sells 93 octane with zero ethanol. Mo better for small engines and storage life.
I second Shawns aux tank in the truck idea. You can get a 90 gallon transfer tank and after you get your farm tanks it will still be good to have more fuel on board the truck for bug out
Popular choice seems to be the RDS from northern tool. I have one and have been pleased. I think they only carry the 60 but can order the 90. Note that the capacity is theoretical. I only get 55 in my 60.
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Post by: JR on July 20, 2016, 11:01:17 AM
Having gas, diesel and propane is great. But if you want stand alone, diesel is it and then make a small still.
Will they let you or even service an underground propane tank?
Post by: Sammconn on July 20, 2016, 11:19:30 AM
Well "this is Kintucky" may be the response.
Will they let you or even service an underground propane tank?
I'm with ya JR on whether it would be legit or not.
It certainly makes a rather large explosive bunker in my mind.
Post by: Flyin6 on July 20, 2016, 11:25:11 AM
Well "this is Kintucky" may be the response.
Will they let you or even service an underground propane tank?
I'm with ya JR on whether it would be legit or not.
It certainly makes a rather large explosive bunker in my mind.
Yep..."This is the Kintuck" is the proper response
Under ground, above ground partially submerged, sinking battleship lookin'...Doesn't matter. Only thing that matters is if the check clears the bank!
Off to get that 6,000 gal water tank...
Post by: stlaser on July 20, 2016, 01:52:45 PM
Couple of things that might make me captain obvious.
Burying propane takes requires a coated tank with an anode for corrosion. Propane=fuel that never goes bad.
Gasoline. For farm use see if you can find a farm supply place. I have one that sells 93 octane with zero ethanol. Mo better for small engines and storage life.
I second Shawns aux tank in the truck idea. You can get a 90 gallon transfer tank and after you get your farm tanks it will still be good to have more fuel on board the truck for bug out
Popular choice seems to be the RDS from northern tool. I have one and have been pleased. I think they only carry the 60 but can order the 90. Note that the capacity is theoretical. I only get 55 in my 60.
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Post by: stlaser on July 20, 2016, 10:58:08 PM
I believe Don isn't going to bury his though, sounds more of like a basement for his above ground tank.....
Post by: DDS on July 21, 2016, 08:05:12 AM
Shawn isn't the service life shorter on in ground tanks? I seem to recall that as one reason I decided on above ground.
A properly installed propane tank with a good bag of anode wired to it will last 30+ years. My neighbor is a propane installer & has personally removed rented underground tanks that were 20-30 years old & were in great shape. The weakest link is the wire to the anode bag. in my situation, Keep this in mind, I had to pour a 10" pad & strap my tank to it because of my water table. A buried propane tank will float if the area gets flooded. In Mass, where I'm from, a 500 gallon tank, up to 200' of line & regulator goes for $2,500.00 installed.
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 22, 2016, 10:25:45 PM
Here's the test lifting one of Deere's new cutters. No, I didn't buy it. I am holding out for a heavy duty (Spendy) Bush-Hog brand cutter so I can munch up small Jap kars along with other weeds, unwanted trees and wildlife which is too slow or too stupid to get out of the way!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on July 22, 2016, 10:42:18 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on July 22, 2016, 10:49:06 PM
What makes Bush Hog that much better? I'm in the market for a cutter too and would like to know.They are the original inventors of the thing I believe. And as important as that might be, more important is the fact that they still offer parts for their very first cutters...Because people are still using them!
People swear by them around here. The one I am looking at has a 210 HP gearbox. That's insane!. Heaviest duty cutter Deere put out has a 150HP gearbox, and that is way overkill!
If you are buying Bush-Hog, I'd stay away from the light duty base cutter and go with the middle of the line unit. Frankly the heavy duty cutter will weigh too much for your three point. I think it is around 1,600 lbs!!!
Steel thickness in the impact zones is 1/2" thick/ My J Deere medium duty cutter which tore apart has 10 gage steel.
Bush hog medium and heavy is domed, has reinforcing ribs and on and on.
Its a good unit I think. Mine costs $3500 before tax.
Post by: KensAuto on July 22, 2016, 11:12:22 PM
Post by: BobbyB on July 23, 2016, 09:50:03 PM
That shiny new one up there must be defective. I don't see no tree cutter option!
That's a Big Don "special" edition option.
Post by: Flyin6 on July 24, 2016, 06:25:41 PM
Yessir it is!That shiny new one up there must be defective. I don't see no tree cutter option!
That's a Big Don "special" edition option.
Post by: Flyin6 on July 24, 2016, 06:28:29 PM
It was Hot
Actually it started out hot then got to insane somewhere during the afternoon
It was so hot...
I took the Pre-Rangers down for some good old "Man-Work" and my brother in law, Corey showed up as he usually does. Having him work there is great, as we normally knock our far more than I would have done by my lonesome.
So I started out with the tractor looking like this:
Post by: Flyin6 on July 24, 2016, 06:38:19 PM
Suffice it to say, that although it runs and has all its parts still co-located there is dirt, ash, dust, oil, sweat, scratches, dents, and all manner of things added to that temporary pretty just washed appearance.
I started out by bucking a couple trees and picking up the rocks and carrying them up to "Ranger Wall" that is growing in mass and height daily and that got me pretty winded and sweaty. I guess I wasn't really understanding just how hot it was yesterday.
Poor Corey showed up just when I went to clearing the branches off I had just cut, so he picked up Mr. Stihl and went to working in more trees. Poor guy was going along pretty well but I think it hit him all at once. The heat overwhelmed the guy and he had to get out of it. We rested for a bit, ate lunch, melting in the heat the whole time, then got back on it. After just a short rime he was on his back in the shade trying to recover. I think he was creeping up on heat exhaustion, and at that point I told him, he was done. To his credit, he jumped on the little Deere and cut grass for hours before the evening rolled around.
The biggest Pre-Ranger caved in next. He started complaining of a headache and before long was out of the action as well. Then the little PR caved. He said he just wanted to go home, it was just too hot. So around 1630-1700 I told them they were done. I stayed in it till around 2100 but only because I was running the Deere.
I graded for hours with the box blade and bucked the remaining trees up to a point. By the time I got home the waves of nausea were washing over me and I was also toast. I drank a couple gallons of water and only gave back a pint, maybe using the direct dispensing technique. The rest is either still inside me or accounts for the mud all over the seat of the tractor!
Anyhow this is the scene when I started:
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 24, 2016, 06:41:50 PM
And that was that for one VHD (Very Hot Day)
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Post by: Flyin6 on July 28, 2016, 10:27:24 AM
WOW, I cannot believe how different it all looks Don! You can see down to the well site, correct? Sunday was way HOT in Missouri as well - home now, catching up on "yard work" that was neglected while playing in the heat down south!Correct, Mike
I wanted to be able to see the well and a bit beyond.
Remember all those trees???
Imagine the work it took to move all that?
It will look very different the next time you visit
Post by: JR on July 29, 2016, 05:03:04 PM
Hot? On the way back from camp we fished near Oroville. I parked in the shade near churning water and the mirror temp said 111.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 04, 2016, 08:46:21 PM
After an exhaustive search that spanned John Deere, Frontier, Bush-Hog, Rhino, Land Pride and some off brands I think I landed on Land Pride.
For the cutter they have an affordable 6 foot unit designed to cut 3" stuff like cotton candy
Their RCF 2772 cutter for the low-mid $3,000's is at the top of the range and about all a 60HP tractor can sling.
I was also looking at an older L-9000 Kubota tractor, a 90HP with a shuttle shift with low hours which is used. I think what I will do is pick up, well order this heavy duty land pride cutter to fit behind the John Deere which will be small enough to cut out trails, and then work on adding something like that L-9000 tractor and a 10' bush hog to cut the fields when I get them "Groomed in"
Post by: Flyin6 on August 04, 2016, 08:48:19 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 04, 2016, 08:54:52 PM
Post hole diggers are awesome. I love mine. One suggestion, clear the hole often and dont try to dig the hole in one pass. Depending on soil it can screw in and break your pin and leave you trying to dig it out.
Post by: stlaser on August 04, 2016, 08:59:22 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 04, 2016, 10:38:36 PM
Don are sure that's not a M series? The L series is a bit smaller and I havent seen one with 90hpRN, I've owned these things in past...not my first rodeo with em'
Post hole diggers are awesome. I love mine. One suggestion, clear the hole often and dont try to dig the hole in one pass. Depending on soil it can screw in and break your pin and leave you trying to dig it out.
I know enough to buy a bag full of shear pins!
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Post by: JR on August 04, 2016, 11:02:58 PM
I should have known you know how to break stuff
Wonder where that came from??
Post by: Flyin6 on August 04, 2016, 11:13:35 PM
Armor Corps...I should have known you know how to break stuff
Wonder where that came from??
Aviation frowns on breaking their expensive toys
Post by: KensAuto on August 04, 2016, 11:36:10 PM
Land pride seems to be quality stuff. my tractor came with a box scraper and a blade by them, and I haven't broken them yet!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on August 05, 2016, 06:21:08 AM
No back scratching or tree tossing with a heloArmor Corps...I should have known you know how to break stuff
Wonder where that came from??
Aviation frowns on breaking their expensive toys
Post by: Flyin6 on August 05, 2016, 08:04:29 AM
No back scratching or tree tossing with a heloArmor Corps...I should have known you know how to break stuff
Wonder where that came from??
Aviation frowns on breaking their expensive toys
I cut down a couple pines with a Kiowa and a Chinook...Didn't turn out well either time!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2016, 10:37:01 PM
Here's what it looked like before we started:
Post by: Flyin6 on August 13, 2016, 10:38:26 PM
Mut someone's gold club didn't survive the last grass cutting it would appear!
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I'll mount a Martin house on it and a bird feeder
Mo Martins = Fewer bugs
Direction correlation there
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That new Bush hog and post hole digger is maybe two weeks out at the most, which will mean I switch to cutting the fields and a bit more, and punch all the holes for the wrap around deck/porch.
Plan is to show up with a trailer load of sack-crete. Have the posts pre-sanded to smooth them somewhat, then over one long day auger all the holes and set all the posts. From that point there will be clear framing with the goal of having overhead cover and a porch before the fall rains set in
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 14, 2016, 12:23:02 AM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: JR on August 14, 2016, 12:29:30 AM
I really have to install my HD front bumper. 3 times at the same intersection some idiot has made a u turn, then turns right in front of me. I need to "adjust" their failure to yield,,,,,,,,
That will look great when it grows back in around the road. Do you really want the water to drain using the road, or do you plan on a culvert or pipe?
Post by: stlaser on August 14, 2016, 12:43:46 AM
Not the greatest pics, but that road is leveled and the hill above now will drain into that little pond. Plan on seeing me use an excavator to both widen and deepen that thing
Pond= thing large enough to hold at least one fish & keep it living
Mud puddle = thing that is approx width of two track path that even c-max can't get stuck in & that's saying something w/o me mentioning mall mulch beds.....
;)
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 14, 2016, 01:47:20 PM
Cmax looks good just sitting there. Did the 1101 trailer shrink? The picture makes it look really small!Well, the water has always drained down that road. since it was put in there well over a hundred years ago. I merely redirected it! ;-))
I really have to install my HD front bumper. 3 times at the same intersection some idiot has made a u turn, then turns right in front of me. I need to "adjust" their failure to yield,,,,,,,,
That will look great when it grows back in around the road. Do you really want the water to drain using the road, or do you plan on a culvert or pipe?
Post by: Flyin6 on August 14, 2016, 01:51:07 PM
Didn't he say he had a stand of black locus trees? Maybe this was another friend, anyhow if you use black locus as posts say find a stand of ones 6-12" in diameter you only need set them once in a lifetime. It's what the Amish use for everything from fences to porch posts......Shawn,
I have a couple stands of Black Locust. I plan to harvest the straight sections of the trunks to make the framework around the raised Texas Red Neck style plant beds.
I'll also keep a lot for fence posts.
On that note, I'm not rich, but I may bet that way
If so, I think I'm going to pick up a Cat 316 Excavator. There is a cool fixture that just pushes the posts into the ground. No fuss, no mess. Get your hippie cousin to hold it, then push down on the dipperstick and voila, either a set post or a crushed hippie! That's a win/win in my book!
Post by: stlaser on August 14, 2016, 03:07:42 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 14, 2016, 08:29:24 PM
Still think you need to buy a skid loader with all the attachments (they have post drivers too btw). Ditch all the mowers with loaders & rent or lease the excavator......Like I said, I'm working on a plan to own one. A cat or a Case 160
My mower with the bucket is doing quite nicely thank you very much ;-)))
Post by: cruizng on August 15, 2016, 09:55:52 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
So the first thing I wanted to do is get the constant stack of lumber off the floor. My right side is still good, but I have tripped and fallen on the left side I am getting a bit skittish on that side of the bod-ee!
Concept of the operation here is to attach 4ea. uprights to the base and wall framing on four foot centers. Then pile the various 2 X somethings in there so they can bet properly warped and eaten by carpenter bees.
The slanted part is for the roof, which it will have to keep the wasp nests and spiders who will move in up there nice and dry!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2016, 10:16:59 PM
Next up, the firewood has been staying reasonably dry, however, with the autumn coming right up and the flood conditions which exist only on the days which I visit, I wanted to get that burning stuff under some sort of shelter.
This will become that shelter, a 8 foot long and 4.5' tall wood rack and black widow nesting retreat.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2016, 10:18:13 PM
Why build anything straight or square, I always say!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2016, 10:19:00 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2016, 10:21:42 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 16, 2016, 10:24:46 PM
Oh, the section on the right is for Kindling. I wanted to do something that showed some forethought, since nothing that preceded that all day was pretty much plan, precision, proper fit and finish, free!
Post by: JR on August 17, 2016, 12:06:11 AM
I have something a little smaller, but 16 across with corrugated for the roof.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 17, 2016, 08:26:29 AM
Is the bottom frame pressure treated? Looks good for a days work.Yep, Bottom only is PT
I have something a little smaller, but 16 across with corrugated for the roof.
I'll throw a goodly amount of stain on the rest. Should hold up
Post by: Sammconn on August 17, 2016, 11:01:35 AM
It was all untreated, no shingles real ugly piece of work.
I'd guess in the 20 years plus or minus age range.
OSB was the roof.
So if you're going to look after it a bit I'd agree it will last plenty long.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 17, 2016, 03:19:08 PM
A buddy of mine just replaced a shed.Over the years/decades the composition of PT pine has changed. It is less rot resistant now than it was in the past. Conversely, I remember running out of PT pine and finishing this or that outside project with rot-o-matic pine. When I later tore that thing down, seems the regular pine was just as good as the PT stuff...
It was all untreated, no shingles real ugly piece of work.
I'd guess in the 20 years plus or minus age range.
OSB was the roof.
So if you're going to look after it a bit I'd agree it will last plenty long.
Post by: Dawg25385 on August 17, 2016, 04:45:48 PM
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 17, 2016, 10:05:38 PM
No more arsenic lol...And isn't the copper sulfate of a different concentration?
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Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 09:53:36 AM
Working without a shirt I redefined the local sweat bee training manual. But beside that I learned how to work through direct sunlight which, no kidding, is pretty good training and conditioning. If one can work and be productive when in direct sunlight, I'd say you have to be in pretty cardio-vascular shape...Or, maybe I'm dead and typing this from my mansion in heaven ;-))
Well, starting off, the fields have been steadily growing and look to be in pretty good shape finally. I think I could support some critters, which I may start to test in the not too distant future with a few goats. Hey, if it works for Haji, then why not a hill-billy?
Oh, and that new drainage ditch is filling the pond nicely
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 09:54:48 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
Oh and the big tractor remained Charlie-Foxtrot! (Carnage-Free)
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 09:59:07 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:00:40 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:02:11 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:04:15 AM
The dirt on the shingles is from where I bumped it and caused it to roll down the hill...
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:05:54 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:08:14 AM
It started looking like this:
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:09:39 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:12:57 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:14:27 AM
Before/After
Post by: JR on August 25, 2016, 10:14:47 AM
Did you miss the top row of shingles on the rack?
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:16:00 AM
All that, two sandwiches, two showers, some quality sleep and that little trip is in the bag!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 10:16:59 AM
Good work. The orange will weather out in a few weeks.No, just folded it over on the top side to act as a drip sill...
Did you miss the top row of shingles on the rack?
It's a fire wood rack...
Oh and on the shed rack thing, I forgot to bring drip rail, so I just left the shingle hanging out until I can get some and finish it
Post by: KensAuto on August 25, 2016, 10:34:13 AM
Post by: Sammconn on August 25, 2016, 11:04:21 AM
Looks great there Chief!
Post by: stlaser on August 25, 2016, 11:52:31 AM
Post by: BobbyB on August 25, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
Post by: Wilbur on August 25, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 25, 2016, 04:30:40 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
So how's the coating you put on the floor holding up?Holding up very well, Bobby.
Hardly a scratch, well deep scratch. I'd say by the time I put some rubber blocks down it's done.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
Wow, nice looking golf course you got going! How's the well?I cleaned it out
Just waiting to get the time to put the building up around it and do the solar pump, the 1500 gal tank and the line up to the shed
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 25, 2016, 05:55:50 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 06:25:24 PM
Was wondering if you had a water test performed. Now with the cabin floor clear, I suspect that stove will make it's way back home?On the stove subject
I am trying to figure out the quickest/easiest/least cost way of installing it
As you know, that corner is nothing but open structure, nice welding table quality pine.
I was thinking of laying up some cement board, the coming over that with brick, but I'd like to skip the brick because of the cost and the work involved.
Any suggestions?
Post by: stlaser on August 25, 2016, 06:32:32 PM
If it needs to be near a wall, go buy that concrete board. Or if it sits in the middle of the room or like 4-5' from the wall in the corner just put the concrete board under it. Skip the SS high dollar vent. Run cheap black stove pipe up to the ceiling. Cut the roof back & install a big roof flange (so you can keep wood away from b vent that will go through flange and exit into the air above cabin. Slap a b vent cap on & call it a day. You have a high ceiling b vent at roof won't be that hot. The stove pipe that is single thin wall will help heat the cabin. FYI I ran a setup in my first shop like this for 6 years burning dried pine with lots of creosote in it. No issues. I spray foamed the walls it was a 30x40 shop with 16' peak inside & I could have you in a t-shirt sweating when it was single digits out with that stove. Any questions pm me but that's the least expensive route, change out stove pipe when it gets holes in it........ ;)
This was all assuming the exhaust comes out the top of the stove & you want to go thru the roof. If it comes out the back of the stove horizontally & you want to exit side wall pm me & I can give you cheap way to do that as well.
Post by: Sammconn on August 25, 2016, 07:30:32 PM
Buy the cement board.
Buy some light gauge sheet metal.
Make stand offs 1" long out of small diameter tubing copper is cheap and easy to cut. Place stand offs behind sheet metal and screw to wall. Gives you a 1" airspace behind the metal.
On the chimney, I put full on Selkirk in my sauna as well. Now you have more height.
Not sure if Sears sell the stuff in the US but they do up here.
They make double wall telescoping sections, providing nearly the heat of single wall. Transition it to legit insulated chimney at the roof and done.
Best of both worlds in my mind.
Having said that I run single wall pipe in my tent in the winter so by no means do I discount Shawns suggestions either.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 09:19:49 PM
The smoke pipe comes out the back and angles upward
I planned to push the pipe out through the back wall, horizontally, with that "T" fitting that turns straight up.
I'll see if I can find a pic...
Post by: Flyin6 on August 25, 2016, 09:25:40 PM
Here are the two pieces I plan to reuse, and bring single wall black stove pipe up and over to the "T" in the wall
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 25, 2016, 10:06:50 PM
Post by: stlaser on August 25, 2016, 10:18:04 PM
Basically do more work up front, put the pipe thru the roof & save yourself headache & work later.
Post by: Nate on August 25, 2016, 11:01:52 PM
Post by: Sammconn on August 25, 2016, 11:11:43 PM
I try to burn only hardwoods to keep the creosote down.
I cleaned my chimney last weekend prepping for the burn season. My 6" flue was 4 1/2", full of it.
I reworked my pipe to have a clean out tee as mine exits the rear of the stove.
It is so much easier cleaning a straight shot than fishing the brush around corners.
Now I drop the bottom off the tee, add a garbage bag and voila ready to go.
Straight is simple. Straight is great. Elbows add problems, avoid if you can.
And with the outlet on top, go straight up. Too easy.
Post by: JR on August 26, 2016, 01:28:48 AM
Post by: rpar86 on August 26, 2016, 03:21:06 AM
If you use cement board on the floor (great idea) lay some nicer looking brick/tile stuff on top. It is going to get dirty and that will clean much better than the porous cement board and add touch of cool to it.And the wife will give him props for trying to make the place look good. Ha!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2016, 08:32:50 AM
Don, creosote build with the more 90's you put in so more cleaning is needed to prevent fires. Stove looks like the exhaust comes out the top. Remove the T & run black pipe up to the ss & go thru the roof. Or do it like you said you were going to & I can make fun of you later when you're wearing that tall black hat.......I can't Shawn...
Basically do more work up front, put the pipe thru the roof & save yourself headache & work later.
The second floor is right above. I'd have some goofy lookin' pipe coming through the floor, then out through the roof.
I planned on cutting a square hole right above the stove and covering with a steel wire to allow convective heat to enter the room during Bengal's games and chilli...
Post by: KensAuto on August 26, 2016, 09:36:12 AM
Post by: stlaser on August 26, 2016, 09:43:08 AM
As usual just giving sound advice, whatever headache you make for yourself I will not be helping you fix it. I'm just the commentary in the cheap seats..... ;)
Post by: JR on August 26, 2016, 10:10:28 AM
Post by: Bear9350 on August 26, 2016, 10:18:11 AM
A floor vent directly above the stove would also heat the second floor well. That is all they did in old houses. Furnace in the basement with a floor vent in the first and second floor directly above to allow for heat to rise.
How cold does it get there? Maybe I missed it but you don't have any insulation installed to you? The not to bitterly cold temps will also help cut down on the build-up in your chimney.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2016, 10:26:22 AM
Heck, just snake the pipe all around to warm everything up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I like this plan the best!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2016, 10:29:05 AM
The less bends the better and running the pipe through the second floor would be good for getting heat up there. That said if you do go through the side wall it looks like you already have a good chimney to keep the heat in. Just make sure it is long enough for the number of bends you have. More bends need more chimney. The longer chimney increases the draft to make sure the smoke is pulled out. Also, having a good insulated chimney keeps the heat in the chimney and helps prevent the build-up. It might also be possible to layout with a 45 coming off the top of the stove and a second 45 going through the wall. This would also be better than a single 90.
Well, now you boneheads have me thinking I need to go straight up, but stove can't be in the center because of limited floor space to start with
A floor vent directly above the stove would also heat the second floor well. That is all they did in old houses. Furnace in the basement with a floor vent in the first and second floor directly above to allow for heat to rise.
I know, planned to do that, a 16" X 20" hole. I did that in the house I owned in the Tennessee. But thinking about it, I can run the flue straight up through that same hole in the floor and just keep on going up another 3-4 feet to penetrate the roof there.
How cold does it get there?
Generally not too awful bad, but sometimes we will have a week of below zero temps.
Maybe I missed it but you don't have any insulation installed to you?
No insulation at the moment. I do not plan to insulate the shop part of the shed, but I will apply R-19 in the floor and ceiling of the upstairs area. I only have 2 X 6 rafters, so R-19 is all that will fit, and get some R-13 in the short stubby walls in the upstairs and in that small service room downstairs
The not to bitterly cold temps will also help cut down on the build-up in your chimney.
I ran a wood burning stove in the past, and I don't seem to recall cleaning that thing. I'd burn one of those nuclear fusion logs and melt down that side of the house, but that's about it...
Post by: Bear9350 on August 26, 2016, 12:40:40 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 26, 2016, 12:59:52 PM
Post by: Sammconn on August 26, 2016, 01:36:40 PM
Being that you will likely end up in a corner with the stove, you need to remember that the top of the pipe need to be "X" distance above the roof to allow the draft to work properly.
I think you have enough for that, only, and not nearly enough to run up the wall and then above roofline.
So your thoughts about straight up just make sense.
Run the flue up through to second floor, use single wall or even double to allow the most heat transfer. Then tie to the insulated stuff you have and done.
You'll have to make or buy the flanges and trim, but no real biggie.
Post by: Flyin6 on August 26, 2016, 02:59:27 PM
Looking at the picture of the pipe you salvaged, you'll have enough if you do go straight up.Honestly, straight up is sounding like it makes the most sense of all options.
Being that you will likely end up in a corner with the stove, you need to remember that the top of the pipe need to be "X" distance above the roof to allow the draft to work properly.
I think you have enough for that, only, and not nearly enough to run up the wall and then above roofline.
So your thoughts about straight up just make sense.
Run the flue up through to second floor, use single wall or even double to allow the most heat transfer. Then tie to the insulated stuff you have and done.
You'll have to make or buy the flanges and trim, but no real biggie.
And coming in with Mikey who is nearing insanity in the kid cafeteria, Maybe it would make the most sense not to insulate the second floor underside. Heck, saves $$$$...
On another note, I just picked up my new Land Pride Bush Hog
What a chunk! That thing dwarfs that spindly Deere thing. Honestly, the deere looks like a tinkertoy next to this thing. 10 ga (deere) and 1/2" steel on the LP is no comparison what so ever. The gear box in the LP is huge. Like bigger than a football, nearing basket ball size!
And the post hole auger is same/same. Just huge components on that thing. I think I can drill with confidence with that thing installed.
Pics after use which is going to begin in about 2 hours...IN ALL THIS HEAT!!!!!!!
Post by: stlaser on August 26, 2016, 03:25:10 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 26, 2016, 05:23:36 PM
Mike - within 7th day of actual service something gets bent or broken associated with the new implements. Either implement or machine it's attached to! Scratches and paint damage don't count!
ADD YOUR ENTRIES BELOW - $5 per entry and winner gets bragging rights; sends all proceeds to Don....... ;)
Post by: stlaser on August 26, 2016, 05:30:48 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 26, 2016, 05:40:30 PM
Does sq D not being operation count?
Different build thread..........Hippy starting to rub off on you there Shawn? ;D
Post by: JR on August 26, 2016, 06:32:57 PM
Post by: stlaser on August 26, 2016, 06:36:01 PM
Does sq D not being operation count?
Different build thread..........Hippy starting to rub off on you there Shawn? ;D
Sorry, equipment in general & technically sq d was deemed to be rolling parts store for the farm I thought...... ;D
Post by: Nate on August 26, 2016, 07:16:47 PM
Don may have retired as a warrant occifer, but he started out as a private, and I think he still has a bit of that youngin in him still just clawing to get out every once in a while........;D
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 26, 2016, 07:22:41 PM
ill give it 1 day! I have a feeling that don will utilize it in a manner in which it was not designed for to find out where the weak points of it are.
Don may have retired as a warrant occifer, but he started out as a private, and I think he still has a bit of that TANK DRIVER in him still just clawing to get out every once in a while........;D
Fixed it for you! ;D
Post by: Nate on August 26, 2016, 07:33:29 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:00:14 PM
So, I'll just disregard all that meaningless chatter and report that I actually got through the weekend, well two days with no damage. Well, none that I caused anyway!
So getting right into it, here is the new Land Pride heavy duty bush hog just loaded onto my trailer
And
The new Post hole digger, also a heavy duty unit
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:00:57 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:02:52 PM
The tail wheel makes that deere thing look like a toy.
Well comparing them side to side, the old Deere cutter is a tinkertoy compared to this one
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:06:35 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:10:15 PM
I don't know if my next tractor will be a Kubota, but I know for sure I will not buy anything John Deere ever again. Their quality is not there and they are priced out of the market.
I pulled it off the trailer, then backed in and hooked it right up with that nifty quick-tatch apparatus I have on the Deere
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:15:56 PM
1. It's heavy, real heavy!
2. I have never experienced a smoother running cutter!
It makes a whirling sound but is really quiet. There is not a hint of vibration, unlike my old Deere cutter which would cause blood clots every half hour. That thing was just awful. Like I said, I won't even waste my time looking at that green junk again!
I cut, maybe 20 acres with it, and the tractor never overheated. Note that with the Deere cutter the tractor overheated every 15 minutes or so. The green cutter threw out so much debris and dust that the radiator clogged up often and quickly. That did not happen even once and the temp gage stayed high green even when mowing in 94F temps for hours
I didn't get a closeup, after pic of the fields, only this telephoto pic. It was getting late and I was half burned alive by the heat and the sun and all I wanted to do was shower to cool off
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:19:42 PM
Do not buy Timber land
Cheap Chinese junk
The knives did not even come with an edge!
I had to grind the snot out of them, and afterward, they were hard to pull through that seasoned cedar
I have a broken rib as well, so pulling with effort is pretty tough at the moment, but my brother in law laid into this post and whittled it pretty well
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:23:14 PM
I can vouch for the concept, it worked!
Now, I think I am going to have to come up with a more industrialized method to do this. That was bust your butt hard! And in the heat, we managed one log, then threw in the towel...What a good workout though!
When you get to a knot, you end up with this birds nest:
Post by: Flyin6 on August 27, 2016, 09:24:29 PM
And I'll take care not to get the chevy stuck in that morass!
Post by: Bigdave_185 on August 27, 2016, 11:36:18 PM
Raising boys into RealMen!!
Post by: KensAuto on August 27, 2016, 11:50:21 PM
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200326354_200326354?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Logging%20%3E%20Logging%20Tools&utm_campaign=Northern%20Tool%20and%20Equipment&utm_content=119800&gclid=CPHSupSa484CFZKHaQod5poCJQ
Post by: stlaser on August 28, 2016, 12:15:44 AM
Post by: Nate on August 28, 2016, 03:05:37 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 28, 2016, 07:58:10 PM
Shaper and planner blades can be tricky
Need a lot of sharpening
But it is only knocking off bark
So I was thinking of just settling on 6 X 6 PT timber. Until I checked the cost
6 X 6 X 12' $37 ea!!!!!!!!!
I need 5 and 2ea 16 footers!
So that's $300 give or take, so if that little daddy works, I'd have paid for it on my fifth log!
Post by: stlaser on August 28, 2016, 10:16:27 PM
Post by: JR on August 28, 2016, 10:29:04 PM
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 29, 2016, 06:59:36 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 29, 2016, 10:24:42 AM
I'd think in that part of the country Don, you'd find bunches of the "real" draw knives at yard and barn sales. That anchor your brother in law was holding reminds me of some students I know- it'll never be "sharp". At the least, your nearest Cracker Barrel outta have one hanging on the wall.Yea, I bought all wrong
Was eyeing a Swiss knife, but at $98 I got scared! Like girl scout scared, so i ran away.
So now I'll buy it after spending $40 first to calm the fear! ;-)
BTW, you won't recognize the place next time you come down!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 29, 2016, 10:27:23 AM
Hey Big D, how 'bout one of these?I'm gonna buy that Kenneth
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200326354_200326354?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Logging%20%3E%20Logging%20Tools&utm_campaign=Northern%20Tool%20and%20Equipment&utm_content=119800&gclid=CPHSupSa484CFZKHaQod5poCJQ
Then when you show up here someday, I'm gonna direct you at a pile of logs to go practice on! ;-)))
Edit: Its on order
Post by: KensAuto on August 29, 2016, 10:38:14 AM
Post by: cudakidd53 on August 29, 2016, 01:46:05 PM
I'd think in that part of the country Don, you'd find bunches of the "real" draw knives at yard and barn sales. That anchor your brother in law was holding reminds me of some students I know- it'll never be "sharp". At the least, your nearest Cracker Barrel outta have one hanging on the wall.Yea, I bought all wrong
Was eyeing a Swiss knife, but at $98 I got scared! Like girl scout scared, so i ran away.
So now I'll buy it after spending $40 first to calm the fear! ;-)
BTW, you won't recognize the place next time you come down!
I already notice the difference in just the photos! - things like an awning missing on the trailer, no trees to guide you to the safe zone where to turn around a trailer, no poison ivy weeds around the hidden well, uncluttered floor in the cabin, wood rack, more spent "projectiles" down range.......somebody used Sarge....Orange behind that green tractor thingy! LOL!
Post by: Flyin6 on August 29, 2016, 06:24:01 PM
I'm in....but I want a lumber mill in first...like full size...you know, the ones that come with guys that do all the heavy lifting? yeah, one of those kind. :)I'm gonna have a mill, Kenneth!
I could use one SOOO bad right now. I'd cut all the decking from those cedars if I only had one.
Post by: Wilbur on August 29, 2016, 10:32:53 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on August 30, 2016, 08:34:00 AM
Any local sawmills around Don that would cut them for ya? They might take it on. Or maybe a guy that will bring a portable mill to the site and mill them all right there.Nope, none all that local. I really need one there to make it practical, and for around $7K I can get it done. I'll get one in time...
Post by: Bear9350 on August 30, 2016, 08:47:41 AM
Post by: BobbyB on August 30, 2016, 09:17:40 AM
Post by: stlaser on August 30, 2016, 10:28:25 AM
Post by: JR on August 30, 2016, 10:40:15 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 01, 2016, 09:03:17 PM
I'll post pics later, but have made lots of progress, killed a big old pile of trees, and even racked up some new carniage. And that would be on the new bush hog...
Actual date of destruction was 1 sep...
...For whoever picked that day...
Post by: KensAuto on September 01, 2016, 10:41:27 PM
I'm really knocking it out lately
I'll post pics later, but have made lots of progress, killed a big old pile of trees, and even racked up some new carniage. And that would be on the new bush hog...
Actual date of destruction was 1 sep...
...For whoever picked that day...
Probably everyone on here. ;)
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 02, 2016, 07:01:19 AM
I'm really knocking it out lately
I'll post pics later, but have made lots of progress, killed a big old pile of trees, and even racked up some new carniage. And that would be on the new bush hog...
Actual date of destruction was 1 sep...
...For whoever picked that day...
I did......TO THE DAY...........Duane's lack of oversight as "Safety Officer" is to blame! >:(
Post by: Nate on September 02, 2016, 08:09:13 AM
Post by: stlaser on September 02, 2016, 08:26:04 AM
I'm really knocking it out lately
I'll post pics later, but have made lots of progress, killed a big old pile of trees, and even racked up some new carniage. And that would be on the new bush hog...
Actual date of destruction was 1 sep...
...For whoever picked that day...
Probably everyone on here. ;)
It was me, being the day before I turned older wanted to make sure you couldn't do anything productive today! ;)
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:09:07 AM
It was the third time I used it
One of the attaching pins fell out which bent the ears, that's all
Well there are also a bunch of dents in that thick steel
And, since I'm confessing the rear chain guard is bent
And the blades look like they have been processing rocks, which by the way, it does rather well
To the extent that where I find a rock, I leave in my wake a scattered pile of gravel
The decals are all torn off, but despite all of that, when the new pin comes in I'll be right back at it!
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:05:41 PM
Was down there for days this time
So, I know, everyone wants to see the Car-Rep. It's a bit thin, nothing major broken in half or spraying hydraulic fluid all over three counties.
But I lost my pin!
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:06:31 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:08:00 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:11:28 PM
Since I want that to be a solar powered pumper, the things that block sunlight met Sarge!
The technique seems to be to grub around the roots with the teeth, then when enough of them have been cut, just push the tree over, then lift the root ball free of the ground. I tackles some 40-50 footers, but they were no match for the Sarge
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:14:49 PM
After day one, I had maybe 2/3 of the stand on the ground. Dinner and a hot shower was calling my name so I put the Sarge to bed early.
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:16:29 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:19:50 PM
I had a visitor during the night it would seem. That is not Scout's pad print. Scout's foot is smaller. I hate to think what made those tracks...
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:21:45 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:23:42 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:26:31 PM
All of those circuits will be on a 30 amp breaker with 12 gage wire
The lights are going in on a couple of 20 amp circuits, and that will be overkill, as I plan to use LEDs to keep the current budget low
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:31:05 PM
So next up, I build in the area for the wood burning stove. I opted for 1/2" hardybackerboard. It's a concrete board impervious to water and will stand the heat. I think I'll also run some ribbed steel immediately adjacent to the stove, once I get that sucker located where I want it.
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:33:33 PM
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Post by: Sammconn on September 02, 2016, 09:36:40 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:39:55 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:40:18 PM
Scout seems happy there!The concrete was cool...
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:42:53 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 02, 2016, 09:44:04 PM
Good job chrome dome!
Post by: JR on September 02, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
That wood looks good. At least the little stuff will burn good.
I want to see what you get for chief. You need a good pond not a watering hole.
How come no insulation behind the board? I like the use of 14g romex, but see you snuck some 14 in there.
Post by: Flyin6 on September 03, 2016, 10:52:18 AM
That is sure a nice looking place. Must be a pleasure even to work there, much less it is yours!
That wood looks good. At least the little stuff will burn good.
I want to see what you get for chief. You need a good pond not a watering hole.
How come no insulation behind the board? I like the use of 14g romex, but see you snuck some 14 in there.
JR, no real reason you can't live there too, ya know. I'd say, sell off maybe 10 sq/ft of Kali and you could probably afford it all.
On another note, When I add the adjacent property to mine, I think I'll sell off some 5-20 acre lots to like minded individuals...
Working there was like a fall ride on my motorcycle. No sound, except for the wind brushing through the trees or my noisy equipment. Temps were 60's most of the day and breezy. It was an outstanding few days down there...So peaceful...I hardly want to leave it!
Yep, I am putting the light circuits on a 20 amp breaker, one down and one up.
Since I am using all LED lighting and if there is an EMP, then I will go to every third fixture having an incandescent bulb. For that reason, there was no reason to go up to the 12 ga. stuff.
Post by: JR on September 03, 2016, 11:38:57 AM
Just one reason why, family.
Post by: rpar86 on September 06, 2016, 01:10:53 AM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 06, 2016, 07:55:31 AM
"15-amp vs. 20-amp. Most circuits and devices in a home are rated as 15-amp or 20-amp. What this means varies a bit from one item to another. In a way, it all starts with the size of the wire. 14-gauge wire is the smallest allowed for the permanent wiring of a circuit. It is rated as able to carry up to 15 amps of current. 12-gauge wire is the next size larger and is allowed to carry up to 20 amps."
http://www.thecircuitdetective.com/basic_house_wiring.htm
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Post by: stlaser on September 06, 2016, 09:19:50 AM
Post by: rpar86 on September 06, 2016, 12:29:37 PM
https://www.reference.com/science/can-use-12-gauge-wire-30-amp-breaker-f6aa0a7c53d4be5#
Shawn (I think -- terrible with names) - what you're doing for the lights is perfectly acceptable since the load would never exceed what that 12ga circuit and wire is designed to handle.
Post by: Bear9350 on September 06, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
14 ga= 15 amp max
12 ga= 20 amp max
Since you said you only ran 1 light circuit, its not necessary to run a special circuit just for lights. Tap it into whatever outlet is close/ makes since. You don't need to waste wire running from one end to the other just for a light circuit. Also depending on the size of the box and how much you plan to wire you will be surprised how fast it will fill up.
In the house I ran 15 amp/ 14 gauge for all the lights and most of the outlets. Each bathroom has some 20 amp/ 12 gauge runs and several in the kitchen. For a shop I would do all 20 amp/ 12 gauge outlets. If you tie the lights into the outlets I would do those in 12 also. There isn't that much of a difference in the cost of the wire and would probably be cheaper than making a bunch of extra runs back to the box for 15 amp.
Post by: moto123 on September 06, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
These guys basically have it covered.
14 ga= 15 amp max
12 ga= 20 amp max
I concur ...
Also remember that they specific type of light bulb you plan to use is irrelevant (LED, CFL, incandescent, etc.). You have to assume that somewhere along the line, someone may put 100 watt incandescent light bulbs in each and every socket. So size the wire and breaker accordingly. In my new garage addition, I have 8 bulb sockets each with a 9W LED bulb. A whole whopping 72 watts!!! But I still used 12ga wire assuming I could later change bulbs to 100 watt ones for a total of 800 watts.
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2016, 03:39:37 PM
Even simpler put... "A 30-amp breaker does not operate safely with a 12-gauge wire. The minimum wire size that is allowable for use with a 30-amp breaker is 10 gauge."Heck,
https://www.reference.com/science/can-use-12-gauge-wire-30-amp-breaker-f6aa0a7c53d4be5#
Shawn (I think -- terrible with names) - what you're doing for the lights is perfectly acceptable since the load would never exceed what that 12ga circuit and wire is designed to handle.
I screwed up!
I'm off one wire size
Well, I'll just put a 20 Amp breaker on the 12 gage circuit
No one is paying attention or something
So
One more time...
The 14 gage is O N L Y for the LED light circuit...That is to say...No outlets, only light bulbs
So once again, the pilot is saying, only light bubs on the 14 gage wire circuit, and only LED's at that!
Man...
Post by: stlaser on September 06, 2016, 04:46:07 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2016, 06:43:49 PM
It's only a shed, I'll do OK with the setup I have, but I won't repeat in the house or barn I'll build next!
Post by: rpar86 on September 06, 2016, 07:48:05 PM
I put them all over creation!
All of those circuits will be on a 30 amp breaker with 12 gage wire
The lights are going in on a couple of 20 amp circuits, and that will be overkill, as I plan to use LEDs to keep the current budget low
Post by: Flyin6 on September 06, 2016, 08:02:58 PM
Subsequent to that I found this spool of 14 ga wire and the rest is history!
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 06, 2016, 08:07:24 PM
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Post by: JR on September 06, 2016, 10:58:09 PM
It also depends on how long the run is for the wire for any gauge.
Post by: Dustoff35 on September 11, 2016, 06:03:18 AM
If you keep all lighting 14 gauge wire (white romex) with 15A circuit breakers and outlets 12 gauge wire (yellow romex) with 20A circuit breakers, in a few years when you want to add a light or an outlet, you will be able to quickly identify what type of circuit you are looking at by the romex sheathing color.
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 11, 2016, 09:16:58 AM
I would reccomend not tapping into any outlet circuit for any of the lights. Run separate, dedicated circuits for lighting and separate circuits for outlets. Otherwise, tripping a breaker while running one of the saws might leave you literally in the dark with hands close to a spinning blade spooling down; If it doesn't happen to you, it might happen to one of your boys, your BIL or grandchildren. Don't underestimate the damage a table saw or a radial-arm saw can do...
If you keep all lighting 14 gauge wire (white romex) with 15A circuit breakers and outlets 12 gauge wire (yellow romex) with 20A circuit breakers, in a few years when you want to add a light or an outlet, you will be able to quickly identify what type of circuit you are looking at by the romex sheathing color.
You gotta love Duane-
Silent for a WAY long time and then BAM! - Cuts through the subterfuge with LOGIC that nobody should argue...........Glad to hear from you Duane! Hope God is blessing everyone in "Catfish Pilot Land" as Don affectionately refers to you! :)
Post by: Dustoff35 on September 11, 2016, 10:37:09 AM
Sorry that I missed your visit to the farm, I may have been out west at that time.
Post by: stlaser on September 11, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 02:04:42 PM
Lights separate circuit, one down one up
Maybe 5-6 outlets on one 12 ga, 20 amp circuit
Separate 20 amp outlet for the air compressor.
Just purchased some 10 gage wire to run a single outlet for the camper
Will wire in a 50 amp outlet for the welder, and one for the dryer (Or whatever amperage circuit it requires)
I also plan to run the outdoor facing outlets on their own GFCI circuit,
Make the bathroom outlets GFCI
The "Kitchen" outlets GFCI, and wire in a stub bow north and south for future growth. I see one running a water pump that pressurizes the H20, and another that supplies current to the "Pusher" pump which will go in down at the well.
Starting on all that in the morrow.
Post by: cudakidd53 on September 11, 2016, 05:52:58 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 11, 2016, 06:35:07 PM
Post by: JR on September 11, 2016, 06:39:38 PM
You are not supposed to go over 80% of the rated breaker (like you would max them all out at the same time, but this is Don)
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 07:59:56 PM
I know some places state how many outlets you can have. I have heard 12 per circuit.This is Don, and this is the Tucky
You are not supposed to go over 80% of the rated breaker (like you would max them all out at the same time, but this is Don)
No inspections
No oversight
The weak and stupid just burn themselves up and the rest of us are OK with that...
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 08:02:02 PM
The woman put the camera under the back seat yestertag
No rice needed
It works!
Here's that nasty storm that dropped a black locust onto my road, which I just drove over on my rapid exit out of the danger zone!
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 08:03:07 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 08:04:52 PM
And I found this nifty log holder thing-ah-ma-bob
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 08:06:21 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
Post by: stlaser on September 11, 2016, 08:14:44 PM
I know some places state how many outlets you can have. I have heard 12 per circuit.
You are not supposed to go over 80% of the rated breaker (like you would max them all out at the same time, but this is Don)
I always ran 8-10 outlets to make sure I had room for lighting too! ;D
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 08:25:10 PM
I'll have to cut back with the 50 amp(er) Texas Red Neck needs!I know some places state how many outlets you can have. I have heard 12 per circuit.
You are not supposed to go over 80% of the rated breaker (like you would max them all out at the same time, but this is Don)
I always ran 8-10 outlets to make sure I had room for lighting too! ;D
I'm trained to work and fight in the dark, so I should be good to go! ;-))
Post by: stlaser on September 11, 2016, 08:40:40 PM
Ken, quick get in here I'm about to get banned again!!!!! Rofl
Post by: JR on September 11, 2016, 10:25:08 PM
Well, from all these years of reading your threads most of us would agree we think you work in the dark at times...... ;D ;) ::)
Ken, quick get in here I'm about to get banned again!!!!! Rofl
I'll help;
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Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 10:50:42 PM
Post by: TexasRedNeck on September 11, 2016, 10:57:46 PM
Post by: Flyin6 on September 11, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
HSLDDOT. High speed low drag derailer of threads, that Shawn is..No,
Fired!
Is what he is!
Post by: stlaser on September 11, 2016, 11:16:11 PM