Hello Guest

Author Topic: Electric Vehicle Scam  (Read 630 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Flyin6

  • Head cook and bottle washer
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 34155
    • View Profile
Electric Vehicle Scam
« on: March 18, 2022, 03:18:20 PM »
THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE SCAM

Makes you wonder if the government, who have been swayed by environmentalists, have thought this through. If this article is anywhere close to being true, they haven't. Better buy a big generator for your houses.

Jay Lehr is no lightweight with respect to his views on this. See below for his credentials.


Dr. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris



The Electric Vehicle Scam

The utility companies have thus far had little to say about the alarming cost projections to operate electric vehicles (EVs) or the increased rates that they will be required to charge their customers. It is not just the total amount of electricity required, but the transmission lines and fast charging capacity that must be built at existing filling stations. Neither wind nor solar can support any of it. Electric vehicles will never become the mainstream of transportation!

In part 1 of our exposé on the problems with electric vehicles (EVs), we showed that they were too expensive, too unreliable, rely on materials mined in China and other unfriendly countries and require more electricity than the nation can afford. In this second part, we address other factors that will make any sensible reader avoid EVs like the plague.


EV Charging Insanity

In order to match the 2,000 cars that a typical filling station can service in a busy 12 hours, an EV charging station would require 600, 50-watt chargers at an estimated cost of $24 million and a supply of 30 megawatts of power from the grid. That is enough to power 20,000 homes. No one likely thinks about the fact that it can take 30 minutes to 8 hours to recharge a vehicle between empty or just topping off. What are the drivers doing during that time?


ICSC-Canada board member and New Zealand-based consulting engineer Bryan Leyland describes why installing electric car charging stations in a city is impractical:

“If you’ve got cars coming into a petrol station, they would stay for an average of five minutes. If you’ve got cars coming into an electric charging station, they would be at least 30 minutes, possibly an hour, but let’s say it's 30 minutes. So that’s six times the surface area to
park the cars while they’re being charged. Multiply every petrol station in a city by six. Where are you going to find the places to put them?”

The government of the United Kingdom is already starting to plan for power shortages caused by the charging of thousands of EVs. Starting in June 2022, the government will restrict the time of day you can charge your EV battery. To do this, they will employ smart meters that are programmed to automatically switch off EV charging in peak times to avoid potential blackouts.

In particular, the latest UK chargers will be pre-set to not function during 9-hours of peak loads, from 8am to 11am (3-hours) and 4pm to 10pm (6-hours). Unbelievably, the UK technology decides when and if an EV can be charged and even allows EV batteries to be drained into the UK grid if required. Imagine charging your car all night only to discover in the morning that your battery is flat since the state took the power back. Better keep your gas-powered car as a reliable and immediately available backup! While EV charging will be an attractive source of revenue generation for the government, American citizens will be up in arms.


Used Car Market

The average used EV will need a new battery before an owner can sell it, pricing them well above used internal combustion cars. The average age of an American car on the road is 12 years. A 12-year-old EV will be on its third battery. A Tesla battery typically costs $10,000, so there will not be many 12-year-old EVs on the road. Good luck trying to sell your used green fairy tale electric car!

Tuomas Katainen, an enterprising Finish Tesla owner, had an imaginative solution to the battery replacement problem - he blew up his car! New York City-based Insider magazine reported (December 27, 2021):

“The shop told him the faulty battery needed to be replaced at a cost of about $22,000. In addition to the hefty fee, the work would need to be authorized by Tesla. Rather than shell out half the cost of a new Tesla to fix an old one, Katainen decided to do something different. The demolition experts from the YouTube channel Pommijätkät (Bomb Dudes) strapped 66 pounds of high explosives to the car and surrounded the area with slow-motion camera ... the 14 hotdog-shaped charges erupt into a blinding ball of fire sending a massive shockwave rippling out from the car. The videos of the explosion have a combined 5 million views.”

We understand that the standard Tesla warranty does not cover “damage resulting from intentional actions,” like blowing the car up for a YouTube video.


EVs Per Block In Your Neighborhood

A home charging system for a Tesla requires a 75-amp service. The average house is equipped with 100-amp service. On most suburban streets, the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla. For half the homes on your block to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly overloaded.


Batteries

Although the modern lithium-ion battery is four times better than the old lead-acid battery, gasoline holds 80 times the energy density. The great lithium battery in your cell phone weighs less than an ounce while the Tesla battery weighs 1,000 pounds. And what do we get for this huge cost and weight? We get a car that is far less convenient and less useful than cars powered by internal combustion engines. Bryan Leyland explained why:

“When the Model T came out, it was a dramatic improvement on the horse and cart. The electric car is a step backward into the equivalence of an ordinary car with a tiny petrol tank that takes half an hour to fill. It offers nothing in the way of convenience or extra facilities.”


Our Conclusion

The electric automobile will always be around in a niche market likely never exceeding 10% of the cars on the road. All automobile manufacturers are investing in their output and all will be disappointed in their sales. Perhaps they know this and will manufacture just what they know they can sell. This is certainly not what President Biden or California Governor Newsom are planning for. However, for as long as the present government is in power, they will be pushing the electric car as another means to run our lives. We have a chance to tell them exactly what we think of their expensive and dangerous plans when we go to the polls in November of 2022.



Drs. Jay Lehr and Tom Harris

Dr. Jay Lehr is a Senior Policy Analyst with the International Climate Science Coalition and former Science Director of The Heartland Institute He is an internationally renowned scientist, author, and speaker who has testified before Congress on dozens of occasions on environmental issues and consulted with nearly every agency of the national government and many foreign countries.

After graduating from Princeton University at the age of 20 with a degree in Geological Engineering, he received the nation’s first Ph.D. in Groundwater Hydrology from the University of Arizona. He later became executive director of the National Association of Groundwater Scientists and Engineers.


Tom Harris is Executive Director of the Ottawa, Canada-based International Climate Science Coalition and a policy advisor to The Heartland Institute. He has 40 years of experience as a mechanical engineer/project manager, science and technology communications professional, technical trainer, and S&T advisor to a former Opposition Senior Environment Critic in Canada’s Parliament.
Site owner    Isaiah 6:8, Psalm 91 
NSDQ      Author of the books: Distant Thunder and Thoren

Offline Sammconn

  • Just A Guy in the Sticks
  • Registered
  • **
  • Posts: 3923
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2022, 12:29:48 PM »
Well I’ll disagree (used loosely) with some of the numbers used (to 30MW in particular) the meat and potatoes ring very true.

As I am in the energy industry, these very issues are at the heart of many recent discussions.
Not so much with me, I just run the plants making the power, but the glass house execs making policy. I have zero faith that the energy sector can support these cars en mass.
Total re-conductoring and uprating of the entire grid will be needed.

Doesn’t seem so Smrt to me.

I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
Sam

Offline Flyin6

  • Head cook and bottle washer
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 34155
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2022, 02:25:32 PM »
Well I’ll disagree (used loosely) with some of the numbers used (to 30MW in particular) the meat and potatoes ring very true.

As I am in the energy industry, these very issues are at the heart of many recent discussions.
Not so much with me, I just run the plants making the power, but the glass house execs making policy. I have zero faith that the energy sector can support these cars en mass.
Total re-conductoring and uprating of the entire grid will be needed.

Doesn’t seem so Smrt to me.


But you agree with the conjecture that the electric car thing is not possible given the state of the art of present day?
Site owner    Isaiah 6:8, Psalm 91 
NSDQ      Author of the books: Distant Thunder and Thoren

Offline Bob Smith

  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 2094
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2022, 03:59:51 PM »
The all electric vehicle thinking sure increases the time to get from point to point if there are too many miles between the two points.

Offline Sammconn

  • Just A Guy in the Sticks
  • Registered
  • **
  • Posts: 3923
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2022, 05:40:35 PM »
Well I’ll disagree (used loosely) with some of the numbers used (to 30MW in particular) the meat and potatoes ring very true.

As I am in the energy industry, these very issues are at the heart of many recent discussions.
Not so much with me, I just run the plants making the power, but the glass house execs making policy. I have zero faith that the energy sector can support these cars en mass.
Total re-conductoring and uprating of the entire grid will be needed.

Doesn’t seem so Smrt to me.


But you agree with the conjecture that the electric car thing is not possible given the state of the art of present day?
Absolute hokum yes.
Aside from the environmental hate crime of the batteries, all of the rest is no good either.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
Sam

Offline TexasRedNeck

  • punching bag for moderator humor
  • Global Moderator
  • ****
  • Posts: 11318
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2022, 06:54:54 PM »
https://youtube.com/shorts/E8depLnZFgY?feature=share

But there is one thing EVs are good at

And yea that is mph


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Kids today don't know how easy they have it. When I was young, I had to walk 9 feet through shag carpet to change the TV channel.

Joshua 6:20-24

Offline Sammconn

  • Just A Guy in the Sticks
  • Registered
  • **
  • Posts: 3923
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2022, 08:17:41 PM »
Oh yeah, they make torque and can git up and go.
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
Sam

Offline Flyin6

  • Head cook and bottle washer
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 34155
    • View Profile
Re: Electric Vehicle Scam
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2022, 09:13:56 PM »
Duane just ordered a Tesla. Has a delivery date of June.

He did not get the "Plaid" but something pretty close
Site owner    Isaiah 6:8, Psalm 91 
NSDQ      Author of the books: Distant Thunder and Thoren

 

SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal