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« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2021, 08:53:15 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2021, 09:10:33 PM »
Dave remind me where you live?  That air gap is not just for keeping the shingles happy.

Especially in the summer that gap makes for a much cooler surface that reduces the heat transfer to the insulation

Here in texas there was a building engineer and home builder who recommend that roof on a roof concept even when traditional ceiling construction / attic space and blown in insulation. It drastically cut his cooling bills in summer.

With the metal you could run vertical furring strips (2x4) and then nail your horizontal furring strips (2x4) to those. That will give you great air circulation under the metal and reduce the heat load on the structure


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« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2021, 09:53:24 PM »
Dave remind me where you live?  That air gap is not just for keeping the shingles happy.

Especially in the summer that gap makes for a much cooler surface that reduces the heat transfer to the insulation

Here in texas there was a building engineer and home builder who recommend that roof on a roof concept even when traditional ceiling construction / attic space and blown in insulation. It drastically cut his cooling bills in summer.

With the metal you could run vertical furring strips (2x4) and then nail your horizontal furring strips (2x4) to those. That will give you great air circulation under the metal and reduce the heat load on the structure


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My roof plan is to use something like 3X5 rough sawn rafters on four foot centers. Nail some planned material directly to the top side forming the ceiling. Lay some 30# felt on top of that. Next lay down some 2X6 rafters, vertical on top of that and fill the void with the polystyrene panels, of if possible just screw down the first layer of 2" foam board to the existing roof, then lay up tow more layers of same alternating directions. On top of those lay down 1" vertical, the 1" pieces on 2' centers to attach the roof steel to. Either way would work, the only issue is hoiw to make a secure attachment of the steel roof if you have only polystyrene beneath. That's why I think you need the vertical 2X6 "rafters" on top to give the eventual steel roof a good base to screw down to.
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« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2021, 09:54:57 PM »
Funny this is coming up now, as I was researching it just today trying to figure out how I was going to build my first extension, that 8' X 12' mud room extension onto the shed.
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« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2021, 01:31:19 AM »
I did some very similar to post 47 when I rebuilt my roof. Modular home, nasty rafters falling apart with 3/8 stapled sheeting.

Pulled it all up, rebuilt the rafter, 1/2 osb, foam, then 1/2 osb again. Airflow was under the lower sheet where there was none before. Seems to work very well.
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« Reply #55 on: May 28, 2022, 10:57:32 AM »
The latest series of big rains have made it painfully obvious that I need to regrade the driveway parking area. It slopes to the south and west which just dumps all the water directly on the smaller house on our property. It has been like this since we bought it. I had some of it mitigated but directing them water away a little further up the driveway, but water being water, still have a problem. So I guess I’ll be renting something and moving gravel/dirt and buying more gravel soon.


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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2022, 06:33:30 PM »
Ooh, heavy equipment.


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« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2022, 10:30:50 PM »
Have you looked into using a trencher, perf pipe, and clean rock.
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« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2022, 11:53:44 PM »
I have considered that, doing a couple of trenches across the driveway to drain the water off as it comes down.

But to TRNs comment, no one ever says, “oh, a ditch witch” with any real excitement. ;)


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« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2022, 10:27:26 AM »
True statement right up to the time the trencher cuts through something it shouldn’t have.
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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2022, 12:52:34 AM »
Building a new set of stairs to get to the Econ’s floor. The old set wouldn’t fit any longer sice we raised the floor up. Old stairs were basically at a 45 degree angle and 32” wide. The new one is at a 32 devree slope and is 48” wide. Need to finish it up, and will add more photos then.



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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2022, 12:59:14 AM »
Looking good!!


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« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2022, 07:48:10 AM »
Nicely done !


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« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2022, 12:20:33 PM »
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What's goin' on with that palm tree or hieroglyph thing on the wall?
Looks like a good place for some paint!!!!!!
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« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2022, 12:52:10 PM »
Great work.
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« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2022, 01:05:49 PM »
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What's goin' on with that palm tree or hieroglyph thing on the wall?
Looks like a good place for some paint!!!!!!
That is actually some real high dollar wall paper/fabric that the previous owner had put up. We are keeping it for now as an accent wall. It is a Japanese themed gold pattern, his wife was Japanese.  He was a big deal here and in Lexington, on the who’s who lost, had a big machine shop(hence my 6000 sqft garage) with contracts all over the place. If you used one of the portable kitchens in Iraq you most likely used some of his products.


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« Reply #66 on: December 17, 2022, 01:59:01 PM »
Considering the amount of accent walls I have built for wives during the home building part of life. I’d much rather wallpaper.  These crappy little glorified ship lap jobs with intricate layouts don’t seem to hold up well. Wallpaper is easy to change out to fit the bosses desires.


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« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2023, 12:09:10 PM »
Lots of updates I need to put in here, I’ll follow with those later. The roof is getting done as I type this. Found a metal roof company up in Ohio who were willing and able to do what I needed. I’m getting a mechanically locked standing seam metal roof over four inches of rigid foam insulation. They repaired all the decking and the fascia/gutter board prior to putting down ice and water shield over the entire deck. Around the edges, they built it up with two layers of osb sandwiched between a 2x6 on top and bottom. This will give a good solid perimeter around the foam and a solid attachment point for the roofing and trim at the edge. It took 2 16 ft dump trailers of about 10000 pounds each to get rid of the old asphalt shingle roofing that was on there. 



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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2023, 01:18:30 PM »
That is a lot of foam, how big is the roof?
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« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2023, 01:56:43 PM »
I’m getting two of the sections of the roof done right now. One is 20x62, the other is 32x62.


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« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2023, 02:07:21 PM »
Looks good.  Cant wait to see the finished product.


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« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2023, 02:26:56 PM »
I’m getting two of the sections of the roof done right now. One is 20x62, the other is 32x62.


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I recall you having a very large place, how many sections left then after this? Looks like they know what they’re doing.
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« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2023, 05:32:32 PM »
This leaves a section of about 12x40, but we are doing some changes on that part of the house coming up, so I didn’t want to put the roofing on just to tear it out.

Here’s the latest, roll forming 65 foot panels for the roof.






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« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2023, 06:26:29 PM »
That is impressive

and

not cheap

A thought...Have you thought about what the place looks like after all your kids take off? I know it will still be years but I believe you are already shedding some branches of the family tree. Kat and I are finding our house is pretty big. By the time we close off four bedrooms and three bathrooms, we will have about what we need. That's our plan, just close off unused areas, since with what we paid for our place and the dramatic increase of building we'd end up paying more for a place half our size. Just a thought...
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« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2023, 02:38:44 PM »
We have thought about it. Lorria and I don’t ever plan on moving from this location. If we do, we will be able to sell and come out on top. With eleven children, we want to be the favorite grand parents that all the little ones want to come visit and stay with.

Here’s the finished roof:


They made sure the through the roof penetrations wouldn’t leak. Looks like more like a cap on a pressure vessel than a roof vent.



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« Reply #75 on: March 25, 2023, 03:02:34 PM »
11? You are a stud!!
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« Reply #76 on: March 25, 2023, 06:31:56 PM »
65’ that’s crazy, looks really nice  :likebutton:
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« Reply #77 on: September 03, 2023, 03:13:27 PM »
Finally got the stairs(post #61) about finished. Stained and fully installed, just need to do a coat of poly on them to protect them a little bit.   I’m happy with how they turned out. No squeaks yet and feel solid under foot.



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« Reply #78 on: September 03, 2023, 04:25:53 PM »
Looks great!
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« Reply #79 on: September 03, 2023, 10:21:50 PM »
Really nice


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« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2023, 11:01:41 PM »
At some point you will need to replace that with a custom made elevator. Looks really nice but to many for me to climb more that a few times a day.
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« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2023, 11:29:22 PM »
There is only one room upstairs and that is currently the boys bedroom. I built them at a low angle and it is extremely easy to walk up, but I get what you are saying. I don’t plan on carrying children up there too far into the future.

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