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« Reply #200 on: March 29, 2016, 09:37:53 PM »
core support on. radiator in



block heater.. was easier install than I imagined



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first firing (my mom got excited)



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« Reply #202 on: March 29, 2016, 09:47:23 PM »
Nice!  Now can you stop by Don's house and do that for his??
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« Reply #203 on: March 29, 2016, 09:52:03 PM »
Nice!  Now can you stop by Don's house and do that for his??

it should be noted that the 3/8" fuel line is stuck in a 1 gal ATF jug and 5/16" return line going back to the same..


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« Reply #204 on: March 29, 2016, 10:19:00 PM »
*edit* most of the ATF was removed before filling with diesel.

 it's good fur de injectorz

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« Reply #205 on: March 29, 2016, 10:22:32 PM »
Nice!  Now can you stop by Don's house and do that for his??

it should be noted that the 3/8" fuel line is stuck in a 1 gal ATF jug and 5/16" return line going back to the same..


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Boy, that seems like a really simple process....... :D
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« Reply #206 on: March 29, 2016, 10:24:09 PM »
What was that strange sound after you engaged the starter?
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« Reply #207 on: March 29, 2016, 10:30:24 PM »
Where's all the smoke? JK.  8)

Nice work so far!
I just don't want to wind up missing a digit or limb.  I can sometimes get in a hurry to get results.
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« Reply #208 on: March 29, 2016, 10:34:00 PM »
What was that strange sound after you engaged the starter?

are you referring to the loud, high pitched squeal.. or a low ~700 RPMs of a 100lb crank turnning over?  ;D

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« Reply #209 on: March 29, 2016, 10:36:44 PM »
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Boy, that seems like a really simple process....... :D

it really is quite simple. almost so easy a.. a pilot could do it  ;)

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« Reply #210 on: March 29, 2016, 11:20:02 PM »
...almost. lol
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« Reply #211 on: March 30, 2016, 12:22:37 AM »
That sounded great, Even Don likes it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don't helis and diesel run about the same fuel?
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« Reply #212 on: March 30, 2016, 07:07:49 AM »
Won't be long it will be driving...looking/sounding good so far. Now comes the hard part...the body LoL Your giving me ideas for my M715...maybe next year.


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« Reply #213 on: March 30, 2016, 07:57:52 AM »
That sounded great, Even Don likes it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don't helis and diesel run about the same fuel?

I think it's pretty close. my brother is a crew chief on a C130 and if I remember correctly their jet fuel is a high grade kerosine.. or something very close to it.

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« Reply #214 on: March 30, 2016, 09:03:41 AM »
^^^Korrekt! Give that man a gold star

Aviatin' fuel is refined to have little to no H20's floatin' around.

The aqua-glo numbers for jet gobblin' gas is way lower than over the road stuff. But if you happen to have diesel #1, #2, # 3.14, heating oil, or kerosene, just throw it in the rather large tanks of a helo or jet and it really won't know the difference. Can even push gasoline down the tailpipe. Just runs hotter and flames out from time to time (like take-offs and landings, and hovering over alligator pits...times like that)
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« Reply #215 on: March 30, 2016, 09:11:59 AM »
I didn't know you guys ran missions on the local sight seeing tourist type gator farms? ???
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« Reply #216 on: March 30, 2016, 12:38:24 PM »
Now seeing flames out those dual turbines would be cool.
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« Reply #217 on: March 30, 2016, 12:51:40 PM »
DOTs.. the lot a'ya

now.. back to the TV cable. will running at idle mess it up.. since it's not supposed to be moving anyway? and how does one set it correctly. I'm tempted to put the whole thing on a roll back and take it to the trans guy in town..

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« Reply #218 on: March 30, 2016, 07:31:30 PM »
Shouldn't hurt it to idle no... as for setting it. In a nut shell you want to adjust it so any movement of the throttle starts to move the cable. So no slack....once it's driving down the road, you may want to fiddle a bit and fine tune it.

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« Reply #219 on: March 30, 2016, 08:46:41 PM »
so.. on the 47rh, relaxed is in the forward postion (just like 727 and 518) the cable attaches in a bracket at the rear of the transmission case  on the drivers side.

there is a bit of slop/play in the first maybe 20* of rotation (from front to back) when it feels like it hits a springed lever in the trans, at which point resistance begins. (not a lot.. but noticeable)

is the transition point betwee completely free slop and the springed lever the point at which it should be at idle.. and as soon as the throttle moves, immediately begins pulling against 'resistance'

or should be from the forward most postion, pulling a through slack and then to resistance

(the first makes more sense so me..)

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« Reply #220 on: March 31, 2016, 12:01:59 AM »
so.. on the 47rh, relaxed is in the forward postion (just like 727 and 518) the cable attaches in a bracket at the rear of the transmission case  on the drivers side.

there is a bit of slop/play in the first maybe 20* of rotation (from front to back) when it feels like it hits a springed lever in the trans, at which point resistance begins. (not a lot.. but noticeable)

is the transition point betwee completely free slop and the springed lever the point at which it should be at idle.. and as soon as the throttle moves, immediately begins pulling against 'resistance'

or should be from the forward most postion, pulling a through slack and then to resistance

(the first makes more sense so me..)

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« Reply #221 on: March 31, 2016, 07:14:25 AM »

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« Reply #222 on: March 31, 2016, 10:15:34 AM »
Yes...X2 what Ken said. I recently rebuilt my injection pump. In the process I redid a few things to get proper WOT and in the end I picked up about a 1/16th of slack in the TV I had not noticed. The first half throttle acceleration spiked trans temps close to 280 degrees in a city block. Not good..

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« Reply #223 on: March 31, 2016, 10:37:45 AM »
Just like the ford EODs, from the 90s....1/16" one way or the other could cause failure!...and that's why I don't mess with trannys ...it's a whole other ball game(keep it clean guys) lol
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« Reply #224 on: March 31, 2016, 10:48:52 AM »
So I am sitting here thinking "clean" imagining Ken spraying down the TV linkage with brake clean to reduce the last vestige of dust impending proper operation.... and then it hit me... Never mind LoL


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« Reply #225 on: March 31, 2016, 01:58:04 PM »
Sounds just like the 200/700 trans TV cables on GMs. Take out the slop, then fine tune. Heck even just moving it around the shop should hurt a thing. No load and basically idle.
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« Reply #226 on: March 31, 2016, 07:55:34 PM »
Oh boy Ken...you opened up a big ole door there... :)
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« Reply #227 on: March 31, 2016, 08:57:12 PM »
installed (mocked up) the IC and piping this afternoon..

test ran it after we got it all hooked up.. forgot to put the lines back on a fuel tank. so.. it quit. now having to bleed lines and wait for battery to charge. dumb

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« Reply #228 on: March 31, 2016, 09:28:02 PM »
I can sleep better tonight. went back out and got it going..
cold side:


had to get creative on the hot side since the fenders are so dang big and come to the middle of the frame rail.

so this is the solution:


check out that sweet set of rims/tires


that's the color of the truck as well.
small-ish IC.. but I figure it's about the same size as the later model 1st gens.

put the fenders (inner and outer) and the hood on to see what we were dealing with. did some bar stool calculations and came up with an overall size of this thing. figured it'd be about the same size as my 04 f250 with 295 75r16s on it. almost exactly. same step into the truck, roof height, and hood height. except.. with 44" diameter fenders and 36"-39" tires. hahah

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« Reply #229 on: March 31, 2016, 09:49:58 PM »
Those IC pipes look good. Did you buy some pre-bent tubing, or do it yourself? just curious
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« Reply #230 on: March 31, 2016, 10:44:57 PM »
Those IC pipes look good. Did you buy some pre-bent tubing, or do it yourself? just curious

bought the IC and piping as a kit. it was the 26" core IC, couplings, clamps, 3 straight, 2 45*, 2 90* and 2 u turns (that's what the hot side is.. a U cut in half and spun 180*) just need to pick up one more 79-87mm clamp for the hot side elbow on turbo. the others are 80mm are just a tad small. but I had one around to put on the intake horn.

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« Reply #231 on: March 31, 2016, 10:59:03 PM »
That does look good. What kit was it for?

You leaving it shinny or paint?
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« Reply #232 on: March 31, 2016, 11:09:55 PM »
can't recall right off hand. it was a universal 24" core IC. (I'm sure for some ricer something.. but it's the only thing I could fit behind that skinny facia) I can look it up.

I'm thinking leave it aluminum. maybe hit it with some clear so it doesn't oxidize. not other than that, leave it. I like the look. and it'll have a chrome grill in front of it too (original '69/'70 Cherokee grill with emblem).

I'll see if I can stick it up there tmrw morning and snap a pic.

pulling the cab back off tmrw before I head out for the weekend so my dad can lizard skin the bottom of it before I get back. going to mount the IC as well on 3/4" rubber washers on the bottom
and small 1/4" rubber washers and mounting brackets up top to the inside core support.

gonna see about getting pics of the holes and door trim pieces in the core support where the IC piping goes through

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« Reply #233 on: April 01, 2016, 02:01:03 PM »
I want to use something for mine that I can get anywhere if need be. I have had really good luck with Ebay stuff but if I need a cooler or radiator down the road somewhere, I want to say give me something for a ford 7.3 or dodge 12v.
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« Reply #234 on: April 01, 2016, 09:22:05 PM »
I want to use something for mine that I can get anywhere if need be. I have had really good luck with Ebay stuff but if I need a cooler or radiator down the road somewhere, I want to say give me something for a ford 7.3 or dodge 12v.

great idea if you have the room. I'd almost bet the farm that if you got a 2nd gen IC and radiator, you could put it on the front of the old square body Chummins and be good to go. im sure the rad in there will cool it just fine, and the IC, turbo and piping will be a straight bolt on. just 2
small holes in the core support, lower bracket to hold the IC up and pipe washers to hold the upper section of the IC off the core support. I can get some pics of my 1st gen setup, since the front of your 'burb is almost idential to a 1st gen in dimension.

can also check out a build online that is a crew cab version of what you're doing. 99% certain he has a 2nd gen cummins IC in his. just look for twin turbo Chevy crew cab. it's amazing truck, right up until the last few trim pieces go on and then he lost me. it's a bright red engine with chrome injection lines, valve covers and intake horn. you'll recognize it when you see it. hahah

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« Reply #235 on: April 01, 2016, 09:27:53 PM »
If that is over 6bt I have read many of them. If not a link would be nice. Plus a dodge rad would solve the hose sizing issue.
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« Reply #236 on: April 02, 2016, 06:56:52 AM »
My next one will be built with no IC because I am odd like that LoL


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« Reply #238 on: April 02, 2016, 08:14:17 AM »
My next one will be built with no IC because I am odd like that LoL

I hear it makes your blinker fluid and exhaust bearings last longer.

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« Reply #239 on: April 02, 2016, 10:35:13 AM »
Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time
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« Reply #240 on: April 02, 2016, 10:46:06 AM »
Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time

yea. it is. i think I've looked at every picture on there. hahaha.

I one day wish to build a either a square body crew, 'burb or 1st gen crew.

may have a line on a 1st gen crew now that I mention it..  ::)

Guy I found on CL had multiple he's built, but found a 2nd gen crew (aka.. unicorn) and I'm trying to convince him to let the '82 go. hahah

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« Reply #241 on: April 02, 2016, 10:56:48 AM »
TRN we all have the time, we just have to not do other things, like work LoL


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« Reply #242 on: April 02, 2016, 11:01:01 AM »
Finding a Dodge crew is easy.... finding one for a reasonable price, not so much. I might get mine done one day LoL

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« Reply #243 on: April 02, 2016, 11:47:13 AM »
I have longed for a big white suburban with a 454, 1989 or similar body style.


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« Reply #244 on: April 02, 2016, 12:04:32 PM »
I have seen that truck on a couple forums and youtube.
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« Reply #245 on: April 02, 2016, 12:37:56 PM »
Finding a Dodge crew is easy.... finding one for a reasonable price, not so much. I might get mine done one day LoL

well.. I have a line on one that if it goes at the price I threw out, would make your head spin. and it's body, frame, axles and 93 front clip. only 'fixing' it needs is a front driver floor floor pan. which I might have swung into the deal as well.

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« Reply #246 on: April 02, 2016, 12:52:15 PM »

Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time

My thoughts exactly. 


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« Reply #247 on: April 02, 2016, 01:30:22 PM »
Thats one sweet square body build in that link.  I wish I had that kind of time

I love it right up until he put the new HD mirrors, completely white front end and massive stacks. everything else, amazing

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« Reply #248 on: April 02, 2016, 08:03:17 PM »
I'd be VERY careful of a crew especially with a rusty floor. 75% of them have bad roofs and it's very hard to tell by looking at them. But rusty floors is a common sign, especially on the DS.  I have seen Arizona crews with bad roofs. It's a byproduct of poor assembly seam sealing and the fact on a crews larger roof, they will literally makes water during temp cycles. So use a screwdriver under the seam sealer and look for softness on every square inch of the roof seam. Also the pillars behind the front doors...in the pinch welds.

Also while your at it the crews are bad for cracking the rear body mounting areas, check those also carefully.

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« Reply #249 on: April 02, 2016, 08:27:57 PM »
My burb has rust through above the door pillar. Otherwise pretty good but have spray stop rust for a few spots.
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