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We would not agree on this issue... Have you ever spoken to some of these teachers? And you want them to have a weapon in school? Half of them these days are the very nut bags we are worried about. They are teaching the agendas and the mind sets that are causing mass shootings. I think I agree with the idea we should have people armed in schools. But I think they should be well trained specialists with skill sets that apply to such a detail. In other words a well trained, individual who has been through a specialty developed program for just such a challenging protection detail. I would not even be ok with many veterans having that job unless they passed such a detail. What we are facing is needing a "body guard" for 100's of kids, each school being a unique "zone" with situational specifics that are unique to that school. The last thing we need is a Militarized zone, kids hate school already LOLMaybe we could have such specialist double up and teach a course daily on common sense... win win.
We shouldn't think of the teachers ect as a SWAT team. They need to be thought of as barricaded in their space prepared to defend those in their care, not roaming the halls looking for the bad guy with a gun. That would have a huge potential to have a terrible outcome
^^ this and they should get paid more for the training and responsibility..
Quote from: Atkinsmatt on February 23, 2018, 02:20:43 PMWe shouldn't think of the teachers ect as a SWAT team. They need to be thought of as barricaded in their space prepared to defend those in their care, not roaming the halls looking for the bad guy with a gun. That would have a huge potential to have a terrible outcomeNot with you on that one Matt - I don't want my students or myself to become fish in a barrel and should an attacker climb in the barrel, I want to be the Chief Piranah with the ability to separate his grey matter from his/her cranium......first line of defense is not SWAT. Honestly, take away the gun free zone and have just one assailant catch a round to the chest at a school and the problem will disappear quickly.
the perfect response, Mike
...I would want to be trained by FBI/SEALS/US MARSHALLS some group that actually know their stuff and I would want to have to pass such a course with accuracy and stability...
Quote from: cudakidd53 on February 23, 2018, 01:44:31 PM...I would want to be trained by FBI/SEALS/US MARSHALLS some group that actually know their stuff and I would want to have to pass such a course with accuracy and stability...I don’t want someone buying a gun, shooting a few rounds 2-3 times a year, passing a minimum standard qualification, then potentially wielding a hot handgun around a room full of kids in a stressful situation.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: longball on March 07, 2018, 08:05:21 PMQuote from: cudakidd53 on February 23, 2018, 01:44:31 PM...I would want to be trained by FBI/SEALS/US MARSHALLS some group that actually know their stuff and I would want to have to pass such a course with accuracy and stability...Well in many jurisdictions that is exactly what you are going to get in first responders. For example. City Of Houston only pays for 50 rounds of ammo per year for each officer to pass qualification. Any additional shooting is out of their own pocket. Most don’t shoot more than the minimum required. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkFifty...That's a jokeThe boys and I went through several hundred the other afternoon at the farm!I have 400 set aside to work out the bugs and zero my new .300 build.My security team has drilled for a year with their handguns without firing a single rounds. Rule is" Get it right all the time, then you get to use real cartridges.I don’t want someone buying a gun, shooting a few rounds 2-3 times a year, passing a minimum standard qualification, then potentially wielding a hot handgun around a room full of kids in a stressful situation.
Quote from: cudakidd53 on February 23, 2018, 01:44:31 PM...I would want to be trained by FBI/SEALS/US MARSHALLS some group that actually know their stuff and I would want to have to pass such a course with accuracy and stability...Well in many jurisdictions that is exactly what you are going to get in first responders. For example. City Of Houston only pays for 50 rounds of ammo per year for each officer to pass qualification. Any additional shooting is out of their own pocket. Most don’t shoot more than the minimum required. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk